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no FOP in the UAE Daphne Lantier 08:10, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Keep Explanation:
:*The Copyright Law detailed in the Royal Decree No. M/41, 2 Rajab, 1424 (30.08.2003) (Archive) and the Implementing Regulations of Copyright Law (Archive) contain no mention of freedom of panorama.
- Even taking pictures of sites not covered by copyrights can be problematic and photographers operating in Saudi Arabia found it useful to carry a copy of a decree allowing taking pictures from public places. The text of the decree can be found at:
- If first two documents contain no mention of "freedom of panorama" (that means it might be allowed or might be forbidden; also, it must not say "freedom of panorama", you have to read it as a whole to find explanation, for "taking pictures in public" for example) and third one gives clear permission on several occasions (KSA photography decree; chosen parts, my undrelines):
- "and since the circumstances on which photography was prohibited exist no more"
- "photography shall be permitted in public places where no signs prohibiting photography are provided, and shall be prohibited where such signs are provided"
- "the warning signs prohibiting photography shall be clear, written in both languages..."
- "Enabling media to cover different occasions, events, and activities and facilitate their tasks as much as possible. [...] Promoting the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia as a tourism destination"
- "This system covers all photographic equipments and techniques, whether old or new or will be developed in the future. It includes digital, cinematic, television, video, and regular photography"
- logic would lead us to conclude that Flickr and other properly licensed photos cannot be deleted with reason "No FOP in Saudi Arabia".
- Also, Royal Decree No. M/41 (which was published in 2003; and KSA photography decree published in 2006 says since the circumstances on which photography was prohibited exist no more) actually contains following text:
:The following uses of the copyrighted work, in its original language or in translation, are lawful without obtaining the permission of the copyright owner. These forms of use are:
- [...]
- (10) Taking new photographs of any previously photographed object or work and publishing these pictures, even if the new pictures have been taken from the same vantage point and under the same circumstances of said pictures.
- I think I proved that "no FOP" really cannot be reson neither for Saudia Arabia as whole nor here (moreover, NoFop template for Saudi Arabia does not exist, as it exists for France or Senegal). If you can cite other Commons rules or these documents we have for Saudi Arabia that say I'm wrong I would be happy, so we can discuss prior to eventual deletion. I think rules for Saudi Arabia on Freedom of panorama#Saudi Arabia should be reworked so there are exceptions (something like Freedom of panorama#Slovenia, but here exception would be for prohibited files, not allowed; maybe page was not updated after adding bottom two links).
- Thanks. --Obsuser (talk) 08:16, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Deleted: Freedom of panorama#United Arab Emirates. Freedom of panorama#Saudi Arabia is not applicable for the image. --Well-Informed Optimist (talk) 11:30, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
