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You probably want to move [[1-testosterone]] to fix the name as well. Apparently you have to be and admin to do that, so I couldn't do it.
#Please add new comments to the bottom of the page. You can use the "new section" button above to start a new topic.
 
#In general, I will respond here to comments, rather than on your talk page, so that the conversation isn't scattered.
Also should 7α-methyl-19-nortestosterone have capital M? I was planning to start an article about it. [[User:Xasodfuih|Xasodfuih]] ([[User talk:Xasodfuih|talk]]) 17:12, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
#If you want to know why I blocked an IP address, you have to let me know what IP address you are referring to.
:OK, I have moved the 1-testosterone article. And, yes, the title of the other article is best as 7α-Methyl-19-nortestosterone. Thanks for creating those articles! -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 17:19, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
#If you want to know why I deleted an article, you have to let me know what article you are referring to.
 
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*[[User talk:Edgar181/Archive1|Oct 2005 - May 2006]]
--[[User:BoogaLouie|BoogaLouie]] ([[User talk:BoogaLouie|talk]]) 20:26, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
*[[User talk:Edgar181/Archive2|Jun 2006 - Sep 2006]]
:I haven't had any involvement in that page except to semi-protect it earlier today due to the disruptive editing of multiple IPs. The template indicating issues with the article was added by [[User:OttoTheFish]], so it's probably best to ask him. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 22:41, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
*[[User talk:Edgar181/Archive3|Oct 2006 - Feb 2007]]
 
*[[User talk:Edgar181/Archive4|Mar 2007 - May 2007]]
== Pharmacology: Article categorization ==
*[[User talk:Edgar181/Archive5|Jun 2007 - Sep 2007]]
 
*[[User talk:Edgar181/Archive6|Oct 2007 - Dec 2007]]
Would you care to participate in this discussion: [[WT:PHARM:CAT]]
*[[User talk:Edgar181/Archive7|Jan 2008 - Mar 2008]]
 
*[[User talk:Edgar181/Archive8|Apr 2008 - Jun 2008]]
See also [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pharmacology#Article categorization]] and [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pharmacology#Dermatology in need of pharmacologic expertise]]. Cheers --[[User:Anypodetos|ἀνυπόδητος]] ([[User talk:Anypodetos|talk]]) 15:04, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
*[[User talk:Edgar181/Archive9|Jul 2008 - Sep 2008]]
 
*[[User talk:Edgar181/Archive10|Oct 2008 - Dec 2008]]
:I have left a brief comment there. Thanks for letting me know. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 17:52, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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::There has been a significant about of discussion on the categorization of pharmacology articles at [[WT:PHARM:CAT]], and, if available, would love your input. [[User:Kilbad|kilbad]] ([[User talk:Kilbad|talk]]) 00:13, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
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:::I've read through that page and the current proposals seem quite reasonable. But, to be honest, I don't have much interest in the details, so I don't think I have anything more to add to the discussion. Thanks for letting me know though. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 11:56, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
 
==Acetophenone==
I have been messing around on acetophenone (ACP), particular dueling with my own miscues (new keyboard) today. But I wanted to let you know that I reverted your repair of some persistent anonymous editor. The article is in pretty okay shape, the mystery editor insists that ACP is used as a precursor to styrene via hydride reduciton, etc, and lo it turns out that significant amts of styrene are made from ACP, blah, blah, blah. My main message was that things are semi-ok.--[[User:Smokefoot|Smokefoot]] ([[User talk:Smokefoot|talk]]) 23:47, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks for taking care of it. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 01:24, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== Note ==
 
Hi Edgar. The [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Leyo&diff=231739493&oldid=230283795 same] (or almost) is true for my case now. --[[User:Leyo|Leyo]] 19:51, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:You are a good candidate for Commons administrator and I have [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Administrators/Requests_and_votes/Leyo&diff=17442255&oldid=17441994 voiced my support]. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 20:16, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== Hi ==
Hello Ed. i received a message from you that I removed content from page [[Niacin]], but I am afraid that is not true . i never even visited this page. Please reverify. Thanks. [[209.99.19.8]] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/209.99.19.8|209.99.19.8]] ([[User talk:209.99.19.8|talk]]) 22:32, 6 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I left that message back in 2006 on the talk page for the IP address you are using because someone using that IP did in fact remove content from [[niacin]].[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Niacin&diff=prev&oldid=52317896] You may create an account or log in to avoid future confusion with other users of that IP address. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 00:08, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== School IP ==
Hi. I see you have blocked my School's IP adress so we can't edit. Probably a good thing seeing as a lot of people here would vandalise pages. [[User:Jonasbrotherareterrible|BlueGoat]] ([[User talk:Jonasbrotherareterrible|talk]]) 14:11, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 
 
== Sundae Morning ==
Hello Mister Edgar, Can yo send me the stuffs I posted here. It was deleted but I know the reason. I will not post here again with those kinds of messages. I am really sorry. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Sundae Morning|Sundae Morning]] ([[User talk:Sundae Morning|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sundae Morning|contribs]]) 01:17, 9 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:No problem. I just need an email address to send it to. You can click the "E-mail this user" button on the left to send me an email, and I'll reply with the deleted info. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 12:00, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== [[User:Pgagnon999]] deleted on purpose? ==
 
He said he was going on a 1-week wikibreak, so I'm really surprised that you deleted his user page. Perhaps there was an error? [[User:Hike395|hike395]] ([[User talk:Hike395|talk]]) 08:21, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:Pgagnon999 requested that his own user page be deleted by adding the {{tl|db-u1}} template to it. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 12:42, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::OK, thanks. That's too bad. I hope it wasn't vandalism or account break-in [[User:Hike395|hike395]] ([[User talk:Hike395|talk]]) 15:35, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::It appears that he has exercised his [[WP:RTV|right to vanish]]. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 15:38, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== cutepongki ==
 
Sorry if I'm wrong to do this. I'm a member in RTVG and my wiki was deleted because of it against the rules here about hosting game. You said that I can ask you to send everything back to me but I can't find where to contact you by e-mail. So I ask you here, sorry if i shouldn't do like this but this is the only way I can think of now. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/58.64.44.88|58.64.44.88]] ([[User talk:58.64.44.88|talk]]) 19:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:If you're logged in, you can click the "E-mail this user" button on the left when you're viewing my user pages. Click it to send me an email, and I'll reply with the deleted info.. Alternately, you can just give me an email address here. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 20:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== Vandalism ==
 
[[User talk:24.39.160.64]] Perhaps another block on this one is in order? --[[User:JimmyButler|JimmyButler]] ([[User talk:JimmyButler|talk]]) 16:35, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, plenty of vandalism from that IP address today. It is now blocked again. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 16:42, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== Thanks ==
 
Thank you for doing those clean-up deletes in my talk space. Much appreciated! [[User:Hipocrite|Hipocrite]] ([[User talk:Hipocrite|talk]]) 16:51, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:You're welcome. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 16:51, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== User:Joyful-janner ==
 
Hi, thanks for the quick block. Would you look at his contributions and see if he is a sock of the recently blocked socks whose IP page he edited? [[User:DuncanHill|DuncanHill]] ([[User talk:DuncanHill|talk]]) 13:12, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:You're welcome. Without checkuser there is no way to be sure, but it certainly looks like the same editor. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 13:15, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::I've added him to the RFCU. [[User:DuncanHill|DuncanHill]] ([[User talk:DuncanHill|talk]]) 13:27, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:::They may not act on it because the user is already blocked, but it's a good idea to have the user listed there for the record. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 15:20, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== [[:File:Hexobarbital.png‎]] ==
 
Hi Ed. This image needs a chemist admin (see history). Thanks. --[[User:Leyo|Leyo]] 17:15, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:I deleted the local image to let the higher quality version on Commons be displayed instead. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 18:47, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== [[Calcium stearate]] ==
 
Hi, can you make a diagram for [[Calcium stearate]]? [[User:Badagnani|Badagnani]] ([[User talk:Badagnani|talk]]) 08:29, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
:OK, done. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 13:52, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== Kittsee the info murderer ==
 
Hello Edgar, My name is Lillian Shields, You just recently deleted a page that was posted by a kittsee.They had the information from my web page all wrong, They vandalized my information, calling it the diniosis disease as i recall it.They lied and I am truely gratefull that you terminated the article! Thanks so much, be carefull of them, they managed to hack into my web page and rewrite the whole thing, just a heads up. Also I was wondering if they posted any other articles that maybe off my former site?
 
-Lillian Shields <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/97.116.12.113|97.116.12.113]] ([[User talk:97.116.12.113|talk]]) 22:30, 16 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I'm sorry to hear about your website. All the articles created by [[User:Kittsee]] here at Wikipedia were quickly deleted. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 00:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 
::Thank you very much,I would hate to have people told gibberish! Thank you again! I will come to you if I have anymore issues with Kittsee -Lillian Shields <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Lillian Shields|Lillian Shields]] ([[User talk:Lillian Shields|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lillian Shields|contribs]]) 00:57, 17 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
==question==
here is a question i asked with an edit [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sulfonyl&diff=264722331&oldid=264718499]. mind commenting? thank you. -[[User:Shootbamboo|Shootbamboo]] ([[User talk:Shootbamboo|talk]]) 19:44, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
:I think an article on [[sulfonyl halide]]s would be a good idea. There is already the recently created article [[sulfonyl chloride]], which could be merged into a new sulfonyl halide article.
::Done. Can I "mop-up" the effectively merged (but really copied) content by just "clearing" with a redirect? Thanks again. -[[User:Shootbamboo|Shootbamboo]] ([[User talk:Shootbamboo|talk]]) 20:41, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
:::That seems like the best thing to do, so I've made the redirect. Thanks for creating the article. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 21:51, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== Vera Ducas ==
 
I was suprised that my article on Vera Ducas was so speedly deleted.
Perhaps the life and death of one Jewish woman is not of interest.
I was hoping to expand the article by including the names of two other Jews and the reports of a further three un-named who where killed by the underground in Palestine/Israel during 1948.
Or is this not suitabled for the wikipedia? [[User:Padres Hana|Padres Hana]] ([[User talk:Padres Hana|talk]]) 22:02, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:As it stood, the article met criteria for speedy deletion because it lacked an assertion of notability of the subject. However, if you think Vera Ducas meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion outlined at [[Wikipedia:Notability (people)]], and you would like to write a more thorough article, please feel free to do so. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 01:55, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:I just realized the article I deleted was titled [[Eva Ducas]], not Vera Ducas. Are we talking about the same article? -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 01:58, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== 208.68.153.177 ==
 
It looks like you performed the most recent block of this school IP. That was back in April. Every month since, except for July-August, 208.68.153.177's talk page has at least one complaint or warning about its vandalism. The warnings look rather silly when they don't lead to any action for well over half a year. Time for a new (and longer!) block? Thanks, - [[User:Hordaland|Hordaland]] ([[User talk:Hordaland|talk]]) 00:16, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
:It looks like every edit for the last six months from that IP address has been vandalism, so I have re-blocked. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 12:36, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
:: Thanks! - [[User:Hordaland|Hordaland]] ([[User talk:Hordaland|talk]]) 16:26, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== Williamson Tea ==
 
it looks like you have been regularly deleting the above refferenced despite the efforts that i have made to make it as legal as possible. I am a student attatched to the company and as an effort to fill in the information gap i did create the above. please inform me what considerations were violated prior to the last deletion
user: shadychiri <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Shadychiri|Shadychiri]] ([[User talk:Shadychiri|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Shadychiri|contribs]]) 15:41, 23 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:[[Williamson Tea]] was deleted by {{User|Alexf}}. You should talk to him about his reasons for deletion. I only deleted [[Williams tea]] (different capitalization), which was simply a useless [[Wikipedia:Redirect|redirect]] to the already deleted article. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 15:47, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== Stibophen ==
Just a quick note, per [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stibophen&diff=265918990&oldid=265076744 this edit] -- I don't think the Drugbox supports [[antimony]]. (But as always, I very much appreciate all the work you do on the drug pages.) --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] ([[User talk:Arcadian|talk]]) 18:36, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks for catching that. I didn't realize the drugbox couldn't handle it. I'll have to try to remember if I have made that type of change in other drugs containing unusual elements. (And I appreciate the work you do in creating the pages in the first place.) -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 18:42, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== IP indef block ==
 
Hey there - I noticed you blocked {{vandal|70.107.45.254}} indefinitely. While racist vandalism such as that may deserve a block without warning, per [[Wikipedia:Blocking IP addresses]], IP addresses should almost never be indefinitely blocked. From my understanding consensus is that this means something like a [[WP:OFFICE]] or OTRS action. Personally, I rarely treat that type of vandalism differently in terms of block lengths, and would have only given 24 hours as the IP has never being blocked previously, although I can understand a longer block. Do you have a problem with unblocking and/or reblocking for a set period of time? Thanks, [[User:VegaDark|VegaDark]] ([[User talk:VegaDark|talk]]) 06:43, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:For racist vandalism, I generally don't wait for warnings before blocking; but, wow, I have no idea why that wasn't a 24 hour block. All I can say is that it was inadvertent - I have never intentionally blocked an IP address indef. I have unblocked the address now. Thanks for catching the error and letting me know. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 11:39, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks, and FYI, there's another indef IP block under your name at [[Wikipedia:Database reports/Indefinitely-blocked IPs]] in case you wanted to deal with that one as well. [[User:VegaDark|VegaDark]] ([[User talk:VegaDark|talk]]) 17:14, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== New article deletion ==
 
I just began a new article about a group of several hundred folks doing good work in Yellowstone Park, Yellowstone Loons, and you deleted for no apparent reason. Kind of hair-triggerish of you to delete something before it has a chance to be developed. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Kgbj69|Kgbj69]] ([[User talk:Kgbj69|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kgbj69|contribs]]) 00:22, 29 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:As it stood, the article [[Yellowstone loon]] met criteria for speedy deletion because it lacked any assertion of notability of the subject. However, if you think Yellowstone Loons meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion outlined at [[WP:ORG]], and you would like to write a more thorough article, please feel free to do so. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 12:18, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 
==question?==
 
Can you explain, from one PhD to another why you deleted the "Yellowstone Loon" entry? That makes no sense at all, it is a prevelent group that can add to the conversation on Wiki...and you just arbitrarily delete it because it is not important to you, talk about ego! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.160.6.186|72.160.6.186]] ([[User talk:72.160.6.186|talk]]) 23:58, 28 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:As it stood, the article met criteria for speedy deletion because it lacked any assertion of notability of the subject. However, if you think [[Yellowstone Loon]] meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion outlined at [[WP:ORG]], and you would like to write a more thorough article, please feel free to do so. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 12:18, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== Question ==
Hey Edgar181, I was wondering if you and any other Wikipedia Administrators get paid / make a living off editing for Wikipedia. It seems that you guys (or girls for that matter) have a lot of time on your hands to edit Wikipedia and was wondering if you get compensation for that. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/218.235.174.147|218.235.174.147]] ([[User talk:218.235.174.147|talk]]) 14:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Wikipedia administrators are volunteers. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 18:56, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 
== talk page response ==
Oops, I look like an idiot! I'm using a different computer so it hasn't logged me into my account, hence I saw the title page in red and presumed it was blocked. Thanks for getting back to me though. [[Special:Contributions/90.215.234.18|90.215.234.18]] ([[User talk:90.215.234.18|talk]]) 17:59, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:No problem. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 18:00, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 
== This may be of interest ==
 
Hello. Since you deleted Brothsux's article on Perfection (tv series) we have moved the article onto Uncyclopedia where they actually like the idea. You are now a character on the show! I know it is childish but we like the idea. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:McStargirl|McStargirl]] ([[User talk:McStargirl|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/McStargirl|contribs]]) 21:02, 7 February 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I agree, it is childish, but I find it amusing and uncyclopedia is just the place for that kind of thing. Calling Edgar181 a "baddie" just isn't good enough though. ;) -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 00:21, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 
== Question on protocol ==
 
Hi Ed,
 
I represent ActiveCause. We help nonprofits raise money. We are currently assisting 70 organizations raise money through corporate partnerships. One of our staff members apparently created a page early last year which was deleted due to guidelines. I have no knowledge of what that article looked like. But we would like to create a new article that follows appropriate guidelines.
 
My question is - do we recreate a new article or send it to you for review first? I wanted to verify with you before I invest the time. We have plenty of objective 3rd party/ verifiable sources that we will include. Thanks for your time.
 
Craig
 
[[User:CraigNYC|CraigNYC]] ([[User talk:CraigNYC|talk]]) 22:20, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 
:You can look at [[Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)]] and see if you think your organization meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion. To create the article, you do not need anyone's prior approval or review first. Just keep in mind that if any editor feels the organization does not meet inclusion criteria, they may nominate it for deletion. Alternately, you may also create a draft of the article on a user subpage (see [[Wikipedia:Subpages]]), and then ask me or any other editor to take a look and see what they think. It can then be moved to a proper article title at a later time. Finally, you may want to take a look at Wikipedia's [[WP:COI|conflict of interest guidelines]] first, though. I hope this helps. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 22:31, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 
::Thanks. Craig [[User:CraigNYC|CraigNYC]] ([[User talk:CraigNYC|talk]]) 23:22, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 
== UAA concern ==
 
I knew you were a regular there, so can you review 'TheChangeGroup' at the bottom of the page? I'm not quite sure what to do at this point. [[User:Ceranthor|<span style="color:#000000;">'''Ceran'''</span>]][[User_talk:Ceranthor|<span style="color:#000080;"><sup>→</sup>//</span>]][[User:Ceranthor/forge|forge]] 01:54, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
:I've left a comment there. The username is clearly promotional, so if he does not request a username change and continues to edit the article about his company, I will probably temporarily block until he is willing to change the username. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 12:28, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 
== Page move for Talk:Rangsit Prayurasakdi ==
 
Hi. I recently tagged [[Talk:Rangsit Prayurasakdi]] for speedy deletion, which you've done, but I've lost track of the previous redirect target to be moved into its place. Could you check the deleted page's history for the specified page and perform the move? Thank you. --[[User:Paul_012|Paul_012]] <sup>([[User talk:Paul_012|talk]])</sup> 08:36, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:The talk page to be moved was [[Talk:Prince Rangsit Prayurasakdi of Siam, Prince of Chainat]]. I've completed the move (I think). Can you please check that everything looks right to you now? -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 12:01, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, that's fine. thanks a lot. --[[User:Paul_012|Paul_012]] <sup>([[User talk:Paul_012|talk]])</sup> 13:58, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
 
== Pharmacology article categorization ==
I have posted a [[WT:PHARM:CAT|new draft]] and would appreciate some feedback if you are available. [[User:Kilbad|kilbad]] ([[User talk:Kilbad|talk]]) 22:07, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:I have left a couple of comments there. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 12:19, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 
== Online admin ==
 
Hi. Could you take a peep at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI#User:Rules99 this], which I think needs some urgent attention, but I've got to go out now? Thanks, sorry to bother! <span style="color:#A20846;">╟─[[User:TreasuryTag|<span style="color:#A20846;">Treasury</span>]][[User talk:TreasuryTag|<span style="color:#A20846;">Tag</span>]]►[[Special:Contributions/TreasuryTag|<span style="color:#A20846;">contribs</span>]]─╢</span> 14:33, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
:Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see anything that requires administrator attention here. Is there perhaps some miscommunication? -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 14:40, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 
== Deletion of Consep ==
 
Hello,
 
I created the wiki Consep page - but this has been deleted.
I would like to enter some kind of discussion about this, to understand why it is being deleted.
Looking at wiki guidelines, the page seems relevant to me - the organisation is a Social Enterprise, and free open-source publisher in this sector. consepconsulting.com
Furthemore, other, more commercial organisations have wiki pages that remain - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Sustainability_Consulting -
 
I would appreciate your help with this.
Many thanks,
M
 
the content that was deleted:
 
Consep Consulting is a Social Enterprise in the United Kingdom which acts to improve the environmental and sustainability performance of organisations.
 
As well as giving free advice to business, Consep offers specific and in-depth consultation. Sustainability services include sustainability planning, supply chain management, sustainability reporting and disclosure, and stakeholder engagement; environmental services include environmental management system implementation, strategy development, and marketing development.
 
Consep acts as an open-source publishing house for articles in the environmental and sustainability sector – articles are edited and published freely online
 
[[User:Masterthomas|Masterthomas]] ([[User talk:Masterthomas|talk]]) 12:43, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 
:The article has been deleted three times by different administrators, each time because the article did not make any assertion of notability. You can take a look at [[Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)]] to see Wikipedia's guidelines for inclusion. If you can write an article about Consep that demonstartes that the organization meets these criteria (such as having significant coverage in reliable independent sources), the article will be kept. As for other articles, if you feel they do not meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, you are free to [[WP:AFD|nominate them for deletion]]. I hope this helps. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 12:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
 
== Wulff Dotz ==
 
Hi!
 
I made the mistake of saying originally that when R(L) and R(S) are phenyl it makes an indane/indene. This could be tough because they are suppose to be alkynes attached to R(L) and R(S). Although theoretically one could use benzyne for this reaction. Usually CO just does not insert making the product. I would like to fix this mistake if that is ok. Or if you had some other corrections.
:I understand now. I didn't realize at the time that there was a mistake in what was being removed. Please feel free to make whatever corrections you think are necessary. Sorry for the confusion. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 12:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
 
== [[Polidocanol]] ==
Hi Ed. Can you please check the CAS number in the CAS database? The article in de-WP has 9002-92-0 additionally. Thanks in advance. --[[User:Leyo|Leyo]] 16:45, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:According to CAS, 3055-99-0 has the structure that matches [[:File:Polidocanol.png]] (8 ethoxy groups) and 9002-92-0 has an unspecified number ''n'' ethoxy groups. "Polidocanol" is listed by CAS as a synonym of 9002-92-0, but not of 3055-99-0. PubChem lists two structures with the synonym "polidocol". One with 8 ethoxy groups, one with 1 ethoxy group (but PubChem is prone to errors). Just looking through Google results, it seems most chemical suppliers match the CAS# 3055-99-0, the synonym "policanol", and the structure [[:File:Polidocanol.png]] (for example [http://www.chemspider.com/Search.aspx?q=polidocanol Chemspider] or [http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/ProductDetail.do?N4=P9641|SIGMA&N5=SEARCH_CONCAT_PNO|BRAND_KEY&F=SPEC Sigma-Aldrich]). My guess is that varying production/purification methods for polidocanol lead to mixtures of structures centered around 8 ethoxy groups, with the highest quality product being entirely 8 ethoxy groups. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 18:34, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::Thank you for the detailed reply. As far as I see, also the entries in ESIS ([http://ecb.jrc.ec.europa.eu/esis/?GENRE=CASNO&ENTREE=3055-99-0 3055-99-0], [http://ecb.jrc.ec.europa.eu/esis/?GENRE=CASNO&ENTREE=9002-92-0 9002-92-0]) are consistent with that. I added a note in the de-WP article. --[[User:Leyo|Leyo]] 19:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 
 
== Is [[chrysolaminarin]] a [[glucan]]? ==
 
Hi Edgar181. The [[chrysolaminarin]] article was recently tagged as an orphan and I was wondering if it should be added to the list in the [[glucan]] article. The article is on my watch list because I created it, even though it's far from my area of expertise. I'd appreciate your thoughts. --[[User:DJIndica|DJIndica]] ([[User talk:DJIndica|talk]]) 19:22, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, based on the description in the article, it is a glucan. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 20:43, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks, I've added it to the list. --[[User:DJIndica|DJIndica]] ([[User talk:DJIndica|talk]]) 22:07, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 
== Club Crackers ==
 
How do I find the old page?
 
It doesn't seem right that the brand is not even mentioned under [[Keebler]].
 
I'm going to work on it.[[User:Vchimpanzee|<span style="color:Green;">Vchimpanzee</span>]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[User talk:Vchimpanzee|<span style="color: orange"> talk</span>]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee|<span style="color: purple">contributions</span>]]&nbsp;'''·''' 18:50, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
:If you are asking about a version of [[Club Cracker]] that I deleted last year, it was just vandalism. If you want to add something about Club Crackers to Wikipedia, probably the best thing to do is to just add info to the [[Keebler Company]] article which is fairly short. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 19:49, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 
::I can't believe it's so impossible to find ANYTHING about any of these brands that don't have their own article.[[User:Vchimpanzee|<span style="color:Green;">Vchimpanzee</span>]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[User talk:Vchimpanzee|<span style="color: orange"> talk</span>]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee|<span style="color: purple">contributions</span>]]&nbsp;'''·''' 20:49, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
:::If it's so hard to find information about the product, perhaps that's good indication that Wikipedia doesn't need an article about it. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 23:57, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 
== Barn+Star=BARNSTAR! ==
 
{{radioactive barnstar|I've seen you around, and respect you. '''α§ʈάt̪íňέ'''[[User talk:astatine-210|-210]] <small><sup>''[[Special:Contributions/Astatine-210|discovered elements]] ∞ [[astatine|what am I?]]''</sup></small> 00:04, 20 February 2009 (UTC)}}
:Thank you! -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 12:32, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 
== [[Acyl chloride]] ==
 
Hey Ed
 
Made some changes recently. Could you comment, please? Thanks! --[[User:Rifleman 82|Rifleman 82]] ([[User talk:Rifleman 82|talk]]) 14:27, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 
:Very nicely done. I made a few minor copyedits, but that's it. Thanks for taking the time upgrade the article! -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 14:39, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 
::Hey Ed, thanks for the kind words, and thank you for the barnstar! No issue with the Appel reaction. It seemed to make sense, but I wasn't sure. I thought the logical next step might be to edit alkyl and aryl chlorides, since their synthesis is very similar. But [[organochloride]] seems a little broad for that. --[[User:Rifleman 82|Rifleman 82]] ([[User talk:Rifleman 82|talk]]) 14:55, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 
:::I removed the image showing the mechanism with PCl5 as well ([[:File:Action of phosphorus pentachloride on carboxylic acid.png]]), because there seems to be quite a bit of mechanisms on this page already. Do you think we should leave it off? --[[User:Rifleman 82|Rifleman 82]] ([[User talk:Rifleman 82|talk]]) 15:03, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 
::::Now that you mention it, perhaps it doesn't contribute too much to the article, considering its similarity to the SOCl<sub>2</sub> mechanism. Also, [[:File:Action of thionyl chloride on carboxylic acid.png]] could (should?) be simplified by removal of the middle line (loss of HCl followed by addition of HCl to the same location). -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 15:28, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 
==Femoxetine==
please tell me where you got the structure of [[Femoxetine]]. Is that actually the correct structure for the compound with that name? --[[User:Nuklear|Nuklear]] ([[User talk:Nuklear|talk]]) 08:42, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:The image [[:File:Femoxetine.png]] has the correct structure of femoxetine, according to Chemical Abstracts. Do you think there is a problem with it? -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 12:32, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 
== CMC Markets page ==
 
Hi there,
 
Thanks for reviewing the [[CMC Markets]] Wikipedia page. Apologies for the violations I have incurred as a result. As (I hope) you can see, I have tried to keep the article to factual information only and there is no inducement or sales message within.
 
My reasons for inclusion of the page are that CMC Markets is a global organisation and a market leader in it's field. There are references to our company on Wikepedia within a number of articles and I feel that the page can help to legitimise our business on the site.
 
Would you be able to give me a steer as to how the entry can be improved perhaps to a full company entry? I am happy to provide whatever content is necessary to ensure that the page is fully compliant with the governing rules. My experience with the Wikipedia site amounts only to this effort so any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Many thanks in advance <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:NotaDestination|NotaDestination]] ([[User talk:NotaDestination|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NotaDestination|contribs]]) 15:08, 24 February 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:You can have a look at related articles to see how that are formatted and what types of information they contain. At first, the article did come across as promotional to me, but it looks like another editor has already removed some of the promotional-sounding material. If you could include additional (reliable and independent) references to support information in the article, that would be helpful. You can have a look at [[Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)]] to get an idea of Wikipedia's inclusion criteria for organizations and then add referenced information that shows how CMC Markets meets these criteria. Also you might want to take a look at Wikipedia's guidelines on [[WP:COI|conflicts of interest]], which seem to apply here. If you feel you have addressed the concerns expressed in the boxes at the top of the article, feel free to remove them. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 16:13, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 
==Deletion==
why did you delete my article it was good and informative on a not very well known book?
thank you <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Bushey001|Bushey001]] ([[User talk:Bushey001|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bushey001|contribs]]) 16:40, 24 February 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:If you want to know why I deleted an article, you have to let me know what article you are referring to. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 18:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 
== Block for 131.94.22.236 ==
 
Hi, thanks for blocking [[Special:Contributions/131.94.22.236]], it would be great if you could consider [[Special:Contributions/131.94.22.39]], which has the exact same edit pattern. Although, it seems as though this won't stop the problem considering [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APlastikspork&diff=273179776&oldid=273138672 this threat] and the edit history:
{{socklinks|1=131.94.22.74}}; {{socklinks|1=131.94.22.75}}; {{socklinks|1=131.94.245.217}}; {{socklinks|1=131.94.22.181}}; {{socklinks|1=131.94.22.72}}; {{socklinks|1=131.94.22.39}}; {{socklinks|1=131.94.22.236}}.
:Actually, just after blocking 131.94.22.236, I saw the threat and I decided to rangeblock 131.94.22.xxx for a [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&page=User%3A131.94.22.0%2F24 month], which includes all the above IPs. If you notice other IPs, or if the problem recurs after a month, please just let me know and I'll see what else can be done. Thanks for helping to stop the vandalism. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 17:28, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 
==Thanks==
Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page!! [[User:Macromonkey|Macromonkey]] ([[User talk:Macromonkey|talk]]) 19:27, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
:You're welcome. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 19:28, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 
== re [[William Holden Hutton]] Thank you==
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Since you're involved, I wonder if you'd like to comment on this discussion on semi-protection for element articles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Elements
Thanks! [[User:Sbharris|<fontspan colorstyle="color:blue;">S</fontspan>]][[User:Sbharris|<fontspan colorstyle="color:orange;">B</fontspan>]][[User:Sbharris|H]][[User:Sbharris|arris]] 00:07, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
:OK, I left a comment there. Thanks for letting me know. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 11:35, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 
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==Thanks!==
Thanks for your speedy action regarding the IP vandal at [[Elonka Dunin]]. I was going to file a report and ask someone to look into it, but you've put a stop to it quite neatly. Your efforts are appreciated :) [[User:Doc Tropics|Doc ]] <font color ="green">[[User talk:Doc Tropics|<span style="color:green;">Tropics]]</font span>]] 14:01, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
:You're welcome. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 15:13, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 
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::Thanks. As I see now, the quality of the image was not really worth doing so… --[[User:Leyo|Leyo]] 15:59, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 
== Robert Ryder ==
THe Robert Ryder thread was not harmful, why was it deleted? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:WanderingStarMeteorites|WanderingStarMeteorites]] ([[User talk:WanderingStarMeteorites|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/WanderingStarMeteorites|contribs]]) 22:38, 25 March 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:The entire contents of the article were disparaging of its subject. This is simply not permitted on Wikipedia (see [[WP:BLP]] and [[WP:CSD#G10]]). -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 22:43, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 
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Thank you! -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 09:53, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 
== [[Beau Kazer]] ==
 
Hello, I recently created a page for the actor Beau Kazer, which I noted had previously existed on wikipedia and which you deleted in February 2008. I couldn't tell what the page had said in its previous existence, so I hope I haven't spent time recreating an article on a non-notable person. If you wouldn't mind providing me with some feedback (either on my talk page or the article's), I'd appreciate it. Thanks. [[User:Zephyrnthesky|Zephyrnthesky]] ([[User talk:Zephyrnthesky|talk]]) 21:54, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
:I deleted the previous version of the article because it was a copyright violation. It was copied word-for-word from another website. Recreating the article (well written and in your own words) was the right thing to do. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 09:46, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks for the information, Ed, and for the kind words as well. [[User:Zephyrnthesky|Zephyrnthesky]] ([[User talk:Zephyrnthesky|talk]]) 19:18, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 
== Joseph Greco Deletion ==
 
Can you please tell me why the page on Joseph Greco was deleted? I tried to find your deletion log entry, which I assume would explain it, but couldn't. I've never done this before, so maybe I'm doing it wrong. Thanks.
 
[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 19:47, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
: I deleted the article [[Joseph Greco]] nearly three years ago because it met speedy deletion criteria [[WP:CSD#A7|A7]] (it made no assertion of notability). The log can be found [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Joseph+Greco here]. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 22:51, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 
Thanks for the response. I found that entry, but it didn't say why you deleted it, so I assumed I hadn't found the complete entry. The link you provide to A7 (explaining speedy deletion) takes me to a project about the military. I think Wikipedia is great for information, but I find it extraordinarily difficult to navigate and understand once you go underneath the covers (like here).
 
[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 16:52, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
:Sorry about the wrong link. I have fixed it now. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 18:10, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 
== Chlorotoluene ==
 
Thank you for moving the images into the table, this improved the appearance of the article greatly. Also my coding is not the best, so I am glad you fixed that as well. Let me know if there is any more information you think should be added. <br>Cheers.
<br>[[User:Gabethenerd|Gabethenerd]] ([[User talk:Gabethenerd|talk]]) 21:14, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks for expanding the article. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 15:11, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 
== [[User talk:Edgar181Revenge]] ==
 
Hope that wasn't you. :) &ndash;<strong>[[User:Juliancolton|<span style="font-family:Script MT;color:#36648B">Juliancolton</span>]]</strong>&nbsp;|&nbsp;[[User_talk:Juliancolton|<sup><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:gray">''Talk''</span></sup>]] 00:25, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
:Nope, not me. I get these now and then. They amuse me. Thanks for blocking. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 12:31, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 
== Aromatic ethers can be linear... ==
Hi Edgar181,
 
You have tagged quite a few of my structures with ''"Methoxy groups should not be linear"''. I had explained this earlier to another user somewhere. Aromatic methoxy groups and other aromatic ethers are always oriented perpendicular to the aromatic ring for steric reasons. If you look at the model from above the aromatic plane, the methoxies appear straight. I am a big proponent of retaining as many 3D structural features in 2D as possible without sacrificing clarity and correctness. We cannot use the straight orientation for carbon chains as this obscures the center carbon in skeletal structures, but I do not see a reason not to do this for aromatic ethers and I am not aware of any general rule not to do so. Maybe you can rethink your tags... :-) [[User:Cacycle|Cacycle]] ([[User talk:Cacycle|talk]]) 23:39, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
:I don't recall tagging images with that comment. Can you give me an example? I did find one that I commented "An ether is preferably drawn with a 120° angle" ([[:File:Duloxetine chemical structure.png]]). In any case, please feel free to remove any image-quality tag I've added that you disagree with. I certainly won't object. I guess different chemists have different concerns about how best to draw a 2D structure. For example, I wouldn't mark images such as [[:File:Acetyldihydrocodeine.svg]] as having the "wrong use of hashed bonds". But I see your point about aryl ethers, and I'll take your advice and refrain from tagging images with 180° ether groups. Thanks for the comment. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 12:32, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
:: I saw Duloxetine and all the [[trimethoxyamphetamine]] SVG images (I just noticed that they were actually not made by me). As for the hashed/wedged bonds, there are explicit IUPAC recommendations [http://www.iupac.org/publications/pac/2006/pdf/7810x1897.pdf] :-) [[User:Cacycle|Cacycle]] ([[User talk:Cacycle|talk]]) 12:51, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Those guidelines say the style used in Acetyldihydrocodeine.svg is "acceptable". -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 14:16, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
“I had explained this earlier to another user somewhere.” → [[User talk:Cacycle/Archive 07#Trimethoxyamphetamine]] --[[User:Leyo|Leyo]] 14:00, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
:All atoms in [[anisole]] (methoxybenzene) are in the same plane. Does the effect you describe appear with two or just three or more neighboring methoxy groups? --[[User:Leyo|Leyo]] 14:13, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
::I have no doubt that the lowest energy conformation of methoxy-aryl groups is going to vary depending on other structural features. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 14:16, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 
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