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==Healing Question==
What is the question then ? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/212.187.142.66|212.187.142.66]] ([[User talk:212.187.142.66#top|talk]]) 16:56, 19 October 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
==Modern Takes==
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I added the modern take from [[Fables_(Comic)|Fables]] as I never knew of the legend prior to reading it (and thus came here to find out more). I hope that's okay. I thought the take on it was different enough to warrant a fair block of text (and I tried hard to summarize it). I also tided up some of the formatting as the "other works" paragraph was starting to get messy. I moved the start of that to the bottom (as it works as a footnote) and moved all the items that had a reasonable description into their own paragraphs. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/31.209.244.233|31.209.244.233]] ([[User talk:31.209.244.233|talk]]) 21:54, 1 February 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
:I suggested that a TV series alluded to the FK, and had the suggestion removed for being "unsourced." 1) only one of the other suggestions for allusion are sourced in the "Modern Takes" segment, why single out mine? 2) how does one support a suggestion of allusion to a trope in any event? find critical sources that support that claim, and/or creator's notes? I think that's awfully severe, and if applied here I would expect to see the same rigor for suggestions of allusion made to the description pages of other tropes as well. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Johnny Mnemonic|Johnny Mnemonic]] ([[User talk:Johnny Mnemonic#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Johnny Mnemonic|contribs]]) 20:19, 19 December 2016 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
::1) If the others aren't sourced, then add a citation needed tag or remove them. Adding more unsourced claims to a section that already has problems isn't helpful. 2) Yes, the criteria for inclusion in an encyclopaedia or any other [[WP:TERTIARY|tertiary]] source is very severe. See [[WP:VERIFIABILITY]]. [[User:DonQuixote|DonQuixote]] ([[User talk:DonQuixote|talk]]) 20:25, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
 
== merge proposal ==
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If someone has more ready access to the books than me (in storage…), feel free to pre-empt me.
HTH HAND —[[User:Phil Boswell|Phil]] | [[User talk:Phil Boswell|Talk]] 07:40, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 
== Wagner's Opera ==
 
This page makes no reference to the opera [[Parsifal]] by [[Richard Wagner]], an opera that contains many of the characters & sacred objects mentioned here. Where would be the most appropriate place to mention this? In a new section? Under "modern interpretations"? [[User:Lapisphil|Lapisphil]] ([[User talk:Lapisphil|talk]]) 20:31, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 
== Ulysses ==
 
Ulysses means "wounded thigh"; are the two tales related? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2601:1C2:4E02:9580:2177:1544:E4E9:1364|2601:1C2:4E02:9580:2177:1544:E4E9:1364]] ([[User talk:2601:1C2:4E02:9580:2177:1544:E4E9:1364#top|talk]]) 01:34, 29 March 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:No. See [[The Odyssey]]. [[User:DonQuixote|DonQuixote]] ([[User talk:DonQuixote|talk]]) 04:25, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 
==pope==
This text was in the later medieval section. The reference is unclear and for this to remain in the article would need to identify which scholar's opinion this is.
"He represents the Pope, or papal authority, which has been compromised by wealth, an aristocratic lifestyle and dependency for support in his office upon those who live by the code of chivalry. Accordingly, he is unable to protect families, women, cultivated land, the built infrastructure and trade from the violence of knights who live by that code and which is characterised as waste. His impotence in the face of chivalry and its endemic evils is represented by the wound in his thighs which has crippled him and confines his activities to fishing with a hook. Later versions of the story, e.g. the Didot ''Perceval'', reject this critique and point to papal succession as the source of papal authority.<ref>Collier, smashwords.com, 2017, {{ISBN|9781310181337}} (epub format only)</ref>"
[[User:Rmhermen|Rmhermen]] ([[User talk:Rmhermen|talk]]) 22:18, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 
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