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Line 6: {{WikiProject Switzerland\|importance=Top}} }} {{User:MiszaBot/config \|archive=Talk:German language/Archive %(counter)d \|algo=old(~~30d~~180d) \|counter=8 \|maxarchivesize=200k \|minthreadsleft=5 \|minthreadstoarchive=1 \|archiveheader={{Automatic archive navigator}} }} {{DelistedGA\|October 13, 2006}} {{tmbox Line 12 ⟶ 20: \| text = Remember that article [[Help:Talk page\|talk pages]] are provided to coordinate the article's improvement only, and are not for engaging in discussion of off-topic matters not related to the main article. User talk pages are more appropriate for non-article-related discussion topics. '''Please do not use this page as a discussion forum for off-topic matters.''' <small>[[Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines\|See talk page guidelines.]]</small> }} ~~== Umlaut (linguistics) ==~~ Would someone have a quick look at [[Umlaut (linguistics)#Marking]] please? As written, it appears to suggest that the mark is historic. I don't speak German but even I know this to be nonsense. Thank you. --[[User:John Maynard Friedman\|𝕁𝕄𝔽]] ([[User talk:John Maynard Friedman\|talk]]) 11:43, 23 October 2022 (UTC) :Your concern isn't entirely clear to me (nor why you're asking here instead of at [[Talk:Umlaut (linguistics)]], but that's secondary). Is it that you're interpreting "originally" to mean that the mark was originally used but no longer is? I can see it being read that way, but I can also read it another way, to indicate that that was the umlaut mark's original purpose, but that it is now used in words that involve no phonological umlaut, as in foreign borrowings such as ''Büro'' and ''imaginär'', or perhaps even in native words like ''Bär'' (Middle High German ''ber''). Perhaps that was what was intended. If so, then it should be reworded to remove the ambiguity. [[User:Largoplazo\|Largoplazo]] ([[User talk:Largoplazo\|talk]]) 13:24, 23 October 2022 (UTC) ::Yes, thank you. The current text is ambiguous. I feel it needs the attention of a German speaker to tease out the nuances. (Yes, I should have tried asking at the article talk page first. Feel free to transfer the conversation there.) --[[User:John Maynard Friedman\|𝕁𝕄𝔽]] ([[User talk:John Maynard Friedman\|talk]]) 14:16, 23 October 2022 (UTC) :::I will remove the passage completely. That page isn't even about the diacritic nor German (or Germanic) umlaut, but the linguistic phenomenon in general. So it's quite off-topic. –[[User:Austronesier\|Austronesier]] ([[User talk:Austronesier\|talk]]) 15:34, 23 October 2022 (UTC) ~~== "[[:Wie gehts]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion\|Redirects for discussion]] ==~~ ~~[[File:Information.svg\|30px]]~~ The redirect <span class="plainlinks">[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wie_gehts&redirect=no Wie gehts]</span> has been listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion\|redirects for discussion]] to determine whether its use and function meets the [[Wikipedia:Redirect\|redirect guidelines]]. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{slink\|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 22#Wie gehts}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> [[User:1234qwer1234qwer4\|1234qwer]][[User talk:1234qwer1234qwer4\|1234qwer]][[Special:Contribs/1234qwer1234qwer4\|4]] 18:33, 22 April 2023 (UTC) ~~== "[[:Deutschgesprachen]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion\|Redirects for discussion]] ==~~ ~~[[File:Information.svg\|30px]]~~ The redirect <span class="plainlinks">[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Deutschgesprachen&redirect=no Deutschgesprachen]</span> has been listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion\|redirects for discussion]] to determine whether its use and function meets the [[Wikipedia:Redirect\|redirect guidelines]]. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{slink\|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 22#Deutschgesprachen}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> [[User:1234qwer1234qwer4\|1234qwer]][[User talk:1234qwer1234qwer4\|1234qwer]][[Special:Contribs/1234qwer1234qwer4\|4]] 18:41, 22 April 2023 (UTC) == poor article contradicts itself in multiple ways == Line 50 ⟶ 45: -06:54, 29 August 2023 (UTC) == ~~Map~~Germanics == The German article on the Germanics https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanen says, that the concept can be defined historically outside the linguistic sphere. [[User:Sarcelles\|Sarcelles]] ([[User talk:Sarcelles\|talk]]) 19:28, 21 April 2024 (UTC) :The very concept of ''Germanics'' is disputed by science in Germany, this German article says sourcedly. Furthermore, ''Germanics'' hardly is used as a concept for the present by Germans nowadays. [[User:Sarcelles\|Sarcelles]] ([[User talk:Sarcelles\|talk]]) 08:16, 25 April 2024 (UTC) ~~here is a more complex map of the German speaking world <br>~~ ::One problem here is that "Germanics" is simply not a term found in the English-language literature, so arguing that there's something wrong with it is entirely beside the point. --[[User:Pfold\|Pfold]] ([[User talk:Pfold\|talk]]) 08:45, 25 April 2024 (UTC) ~~{{flagicon image\|Map_of_the_German_Empire_-_1914.PNG\|size=444px}}~~ :The word "Germanics" doesn't appear in the article, so why are you discussing this here? [[User:Largoplazo\|Largoplazo]] ([[User talk:Largoplazo\|talk]]) 09:56, 25 April 2024 (UTC) {{legend\|#0000ff\|territories where German is an official language and native language of the majority}}{{legend\|#0088ff\|territories where German is an administrative language but not the first language of the majority}} [[Special:Contributions/199.7.156.130\|199.7.156.130]] ([[User talk:199.7.156.130\|talk]]) 03:29, 28 February 2024 (UTC) ::12 pages link to [[Germanics]], a redirect to [[German peoples]]. ::Maybe we should discuss this on another talk page. [[User:Sarcelles\|Sarcelles]] ([[User talk:Sarcelles\|talk]]) 04:51, 26 April 2024 (UTC)