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== Civil rights ==
 
I tagged the 'Civil rights' section as problematic. It currently says "Huckabee pays attention to black votes and holds that the GOP should not ignore hispanics." This is pretty meaninless and certainly not a position statement. It looks like someone read http://www.ontheissues.org/Mike_Huckabee.htm and decided to cherry pick a couple of items that reflect positively on the subject. Unless we can find some secondary analysis of an actual articulated position on civil rights, I recommend leaving this section out and defaulting the other sections of the article which discuss civil rights indirectly. His only real position outside of LGBT issues seems to be that he will not be racist. - [[user: MrX|Mr]][[user talk:MrX|X]]
 
What do others think?
::Please sign your comment. The subsection in question is virtually empty and there is lots of material to work with.[http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Mike_Huckabee_Civil_Rights.htm]. I'll change the header to "Race relations" to distinguish from the other subheaders.[[User:Anythingyouwant|Anythingyouwant]] ([[User talk:Anythingyouwant|talk]]) 01:51, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
:::I prefer to remain anonymous. {{smiley|7}} I suppose "Race relations" might be a better heading. I still believe we should add substantive material, and not just the Reader's Digest version found at ontheissues.org.- [[user: MrX|Mr]][[user talk:MrX|X]] 01:58, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
::::The rewrite looks much better. Thanks.- [[user: MrX|Mr]][[user talk:MrX|X]] 02:34, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 
== This article doesn't mention his kids ==
 
Kind of a big omission, no? They're in the infobox but not mentioned in prose. I admit I came looking for that info to see how the article handles the story of his son David killing a dog (which has gotten lots of coverage over time: [http://www.newsweek.com/sons-past-could-come-back-bite-huckabee-94351][http://archive.thv11.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=44921][http://jacksonville.com/reason/fact-check/2015-02-12/story/fact-check-did-mike-huckabees-son-kill-dog]) but none of his kids are mentioned at all in the article proper. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 16:09, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 
== External links modified ==
 
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I have just added archive links to {{plural:1|one external link|1 external links}} on [[Mike Huckabee]]. Please take a moment to review [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=686263019 my edit]. If necessary, add {{tlx|cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{tlx|nobots|deny{{=}}InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
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== External links modified ==
 
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
 
I have just added archive links to {{plural:1|one external link|1 external links}} on [[Mike Huckabee]]. Please take a moment to review [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=703910900 my edit]. If necessary, add {{tlx|cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{tlx|nobots|deny{{=}}InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
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Mister Huckabee first let me say that I have always had great admiration and respect for you and watched your show every week. However, You made a statement about Mit Romney that I wish to comment about. You said that Mr. Romney inherited a lot of money but you neglected to say that since he had his own money and didn't need his inheritance he gave it all away. If you wish to comment my email is kizzie@live.com
 
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== Sources for infobox religion? ==
 
I am going through the entire list of all forty candidates for US President in 2016 (many now withdrawn) and trying to make sure that the religion entry in the infobox of each page meets Wikipedia's requirements.
 
Here are the requirements for listing a religion in the infobox (religion in the body of the article has different rules):
 
*Per [[Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 126#RfC: Religion in biographical infoboxes]]: "the 'religion=' parameter and the associated 'denomination=' parameter '''should be removed from all pages''' that use [[:Template:Infobox person]]. Inclusion is permitted in individual articles' infoboxes as a custom parameter '''only if directly tied to the person's notability.''' Inclusion is permitted in derived, more specific infoboxes that genuinely need it for all cases, such as one for religious leaders." Please note that if nobody has bothered to mention religion in the body of the article, that is strong evidence that the subject's beliefs are ''not'' relevant to their public life or notability.
 
*Per [[WP:BLPCAT]]: "Categories regarding religious beliefs (or lack of such) should not be used '''unless the subject has publicly self-identified''' with the belief or orientation in question, '''and the subject's beliefs are relevant to their public life or notability''', according to reliable published sources" ... "These principles apply equally to lists, navigation templates, '''and Infobox statements'''". The "relevant to their public life or notability" clause should be interpreted as follows: Would this individual be notable for his/her religion if he/she were not notable for running for US president? Are we talking about someone who is notable for being religious, of someone who is notable who also happens to be religious?
 
*Per [[WP:CAT/R]]: "Categories regarding religious beliefs or lack of such beliefs of a living person '''should not be used unless the subject has publicly self-identified with the belief in question''' (see [[WP:BLPCAT]]), '''either through direct speech or through actions like serving in an official clerical position for the religion.'''" In other words, if someone running for US president has never publicly stated on the record that they belong to a religion, we don't take the word of even reliable sources on what their religion is.
 
*Per [[WP:LOCALCON]], a local consensus on an article talk page can not override the overwhelming (75% to 25%) consensus at [[Template talk:Infobox#RfC: Religion in infoboxes]] that '''nonreligions cannot be listed in the religion entry of any infobox.''' That RfC has a handy list of religions and nonreligions to avoid the inevitable arguments about what is and what is not a religion. Everyone who !voted on the RfC saw that list and had ample opportunity to dispute it if they disagreed with it.
 
The forty candidates are:
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Source of list: '''[[United States presidential election, 2016]]'''
* Name: Farley Anderson: No Wikipedia page, nothing to do.
* Name: [[Jeb Bush]]: Infobox Religion: Roman Catholicism Religion name mentioned in Body? Yes, but all links cited are dead. Discuss on article talk page.
* Name: [[Ben Carson]]: Infobox Religion: Seventh-day Adventist. Clearly meets all requirements for inclusion, nothing to do.
* Name: [[Darrell Castle]]: Infobox Religion: No religion entry in infobox, nothing to do.
* Name: [[Lincoln Chafee]]: Infobox Religion: Episcopalian. Religion name not mentioned in body; religion entry in infobox should be removed.
* Name: [[Darryl Cherney]]: Infobox Religion: No religion entry in infobox, nothing to do.
* Name: [[Chris Christie]]: Infobox Religion: Roman Catholicism. Religion name mentioned in body, self-identifies as Catholic.[http://time.com/3983711/chris-christie-birth-control/] Discuss on article talk page.
* Name: [[Hillary Clinton]]: Infobox Religion: Methodist. Religion name mentioned in body, self-identifies as Methodist.[http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/newsextra/2008/february/hillary-on-her-faith-/?mobile=false] Discuss on article talk page.
* Name: [[Ted Cruz]]: Infobox Religion: Southern Baptist. Religion name mentioned in body, self-identifies as Southern Baptist.[http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/20121220-editorial-texan-of-the-year-finalist-ted-cruz.ece] Discuss on article talk page.
* Name: Sedinam Curry: No Wikipedia page, nothing to do.
* Name: [[Carly Fiorina]]: Infobox Religion: Nondenominational Christianity. Religion name not mentioned in body; religion entry in infobox should be removed.
* Name: [[Jim Gilmore]]: Infobox Religion: Methodism. Religion name not mentioned in body; religion entry in infobox should be removed.
* Name: [[Lindsey Graham]]: Infobox Religion: Southern Baptist. Religion name mentioned in body, but citation fails direct speech requiement.[http://www.lgraham.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/biography] Discuss on article talk page.
* Name: [[James Hedges]]: Infobox Religion: No religion entry in infobox, nothing to do.
* Name: [[Tom Hoefling]]: No Infobox, nothing to do.
* Name: [[Mike Huckabee]]: Infobox Religion: Southern Baptist. Clearly meets all requirements for inclusion, nothing to do.
* Name: [[Bobby Jindal]]: Infobox Religion: Roman Catholicism. Religion name mentioned in body, self-identifies as "Evangelical Catholic."[http://religionnews.com/2015/06/24/5-faith-facts-bobby-jindal-evangelical-catholic/]
* Name: [[Gary Johnson]]: Infobox Religion: Lutheranism. Religion name mentioned in body, but citation is a dead link. Discuss on article talk page.
* Name: [[John Kasich]]: Infobox Religion: Anglicanism. Religion name mentioned in body, self-identifies as Christian[https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/5-faith-facts-about-gov-john-kasich-god-is-with-me-wherever-i-happen-to-be/2015/07/21/03e8a768-2fbb-11e5-a879-213078d03dd3_story.html] but citation doesn't have him specifying anglicism in direct speech. Discuss on article talk page.
* Name: Chris Keniston: No Wikipedia page, nothing to do.
* Name: William Kreml: No Wikipedia page, nothing to do.
* Name: [[Gloria La Riva]]: Infobox Religion: No religion entry in infobox, nothing to do.
* Name: [[Lawrence Lessig]]: Infobox Religion: No religion entry in infobox, nothing to do.
* Name: [[John McAfee]]: Infobox Religion: No religion entry in infobox, nothing to do.
* Name: [[Kent Mesplay]]: Infobox Religion: No religion entry in infobox, nothing to do.
* Name: [[Martin O'Malley]]: Infobox Religion: Roman Catholicism. Religion name mentioned in body, comes really close to self-identifying[https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/omalley-archbishop-at-odds-over-same-sex-marriage-letters-show/2011/08/08/gIQA4vR02I_story.html] but I would be more comforable if we could find a citation with unambigious direct speech. Discuss on article talk page.
* Name: [[George Pataki]]: Infobox Religion: Roman Catholicism. Religion name not mentioned in body; religion entry in infobox should be removed.
* Name: [[Rand Paul]]: Infobox Religion: Presbyterianism. Religion name not mentioned in body; religion entry in infobox should be removed.
* Name: [[Rick Perry]]: Infobox Religion: Nondenominational Evangelicalism. Religion name mentioned in body, but this page is a classic case of what happens when you don't follow the self-identification rule. Someone took a reference that says "Perry now attends Lake Hills Church more frequently than he attends Tarrytown, he said, in part because it's closer to his home"[http://www.statesman.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/candidates-mirror-population-in-attending-more-tha/nRSYc/] and assigned him as being a member of Lake Hills Church based on that slim evidence. Discuss on article talk page.
* Name: Austin Petersen: No Wikipedia page, nothing to do.
* Name: [[Marco Rubio]]: Infobox Religion: Roman Catholicism. Religion name mentioned in body, but this page is a classic case of what happens when you don't follow the self-identification rule. Someone took a reference that says "Rubio... attends Catholic churches as well as a Southern Baptist megachurch."[http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/23/sen-marco-rubios-religious-journey-catholic-to-mormon-to-catholic-to-baptist-and-catholic/?hpt=hp_t3] and assigned him as being Roman Catholic based on that slim evidence. Discuss on article talk page.
* Name: [[Bernie Sanders]]: Infobox Religion: Infobox religion already decided by RfC. See [[Talk:Bernie Sanders/Archive 13]].
* Name: [[Rick Santorum]]: Infobox Religion: Roman Catholicism. Religion name mentioned in body. Many citations about him being catholic, but I couldn't find a place where he self-identifioes using direct speech. Religion name mentioned in body,
* Name: [[Rod Silva (businessman)]] No Infobox, nothing to do.
* Name: [[Mimi Soltysik]] Infobox Religion: No religion entry in infobox, nothing to do.
* Name: [[Jill Stein]] Infobox Religion: Reform Judaism. Religion name not mentioned in body; religion entry in infobox should be removed.
* Name: [[Donald Trump]] Infobox Religion:Presbyterian. Infobox religion already decided by RfC. See [[Talk:Donald Trump/Archive 1#Donald Trump Religion]]
* Name: [[Scott Walker]] Infobox Religion: Nondenominational Evangelicalism. Religion name mentioned in body, self-identifies as "born-again Christian".[http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_17ec4e3a-1775-11e0-9756-001cc4c002e0.html] Discuss on article talk page.
* Name: [[Jim Webb]] Infobox Religion: Nondenominational Christianity. Religion name not mentioned in body; religion entry in infobox should be removed. Note: Citation in infobox fails self-identification requirement.
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My goal is to determine whether Wikipedia's requirements are met for the above forty pages, and to insure that we have citations to reliable sources that meet the requirements.
 
You are encouraged to look at and comment on the other pages, not just this one.
 
Please provide any citations that you believe establish a direct tie to the person's notability, self-identification in the person's own words, etc. Merely posting an opinion is not particularly helpful unless you have sources to back up your claims. I would ask everyone to please avoid responding to any comment that doesn't discuss a source or one of the requirements listed above. You can. of course, discuss anything you want in a separate section, but right now we are focusing on finding and verifying sources that meet Wikipedia's requirements. --[[User:Guy Macon|Guy Macon]] ([[User talk:Guy Macon|talk]]) 05:21, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 
== Old pics ==
 
Post some old pics of Mike. I wanna see how fat he really was. <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2602:304:CD00:35F9:850:5315:9445:B020|2602:304:CD00:35F9:850:5315:9445:B020]] ([[User talk:2602:304:CD00:35F9:850:5315:9445:B020|talk]]) 15:47, 12 June 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
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== Unbalanced public image section ==
 
I just tagged the "Public image" section as unbalanced. If one goes to the fuller article linked there, [[Public image of Mike Huckabee]], one will find negatives as well as positives... but in this article, it's just a list of honors and such, nothing negative, and that hardly gives a sense of the public image of this controversial man. --[[User:NatGertler|Nat Gertler]] ([[User talk:NatGertler|talk]]) 00:36, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
::Hey! I think I fixed the issue you tagged by moving some items into Personal Life, since they have nothing to do with his Public image, and then let the link to the new article stay as the Public image link. That secondary article seems to stand alone well enough without duplicating it. Oddly enough I didn't notice your note here until I had already fixed it. Small world ;) [[User:Ihaveadreamagain|Ihaveadreamagain]] 20:41, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
:::I'm not sure that "personal life" is the appropriate place for awards granted to him for his governing work. That his "public image" section wasn't balanced is not a reason not to have a public image section, but to balance it. There should be a short section here, summarizing the material from the other article --[[User:NatGertler|Nat Gertler]] ([[User talk:NatGertler|talk]]) 22:22, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
::::I understand. Summarizing seems quite a task since I haven't read the other article, but I am looking for something to tackle, so I can work on that. Hopefully you will chime back in for input.[[User:Ihaveadreamagain|Ihaveadreamagain]] 16:03, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
:::::1. It is my understanding that an article summary does not need footnotes so long as it accurately reflects properly footnoted portions of the article it is summarizing. Am I right? 2. There are many sources in the Huckabee Public Image article that do not meet the reliable sources criteria. If I search and cannot find reliable corroboration of his statements in reliable sources, may that material be deleted, especially since this is about a live person? [[User:Ihaveadreamagain|Ihaveadreamagain]] 18:32, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
:::::#While vague summaries ("Licorice has both its fans and detractors") don't need to be sourced, it is generally a good idea to put in footnotes on specific claims if it is easy to do so, because that other article is subject to being changed without that change being reflected here.
:::::#Yes, [[WP:BLP]] standards do apply to that other article, and improperly sourced material can be deleted... and improperly sourced material that can be viewed as negative ''should'' be deleted. --[[User:NatGertler|Nat Gertler]] ([[User talk:NatGertler|talk]]) 19:10, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 
== Chinese identification ==
 
Huckabee tweeted a (very unfunny, but that's par) joke about identifying as Chinese. Given that he was clearly joking, that the reliable sources note that it was a [https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-mike-huckabee-identies-as-chinese-20210404-dc57miiff5f7dgbq4ngw3kg7ku-story.html sarcastic] [https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3128314/mike-huckabee-blasted-tweet-saying-he-has-decided quip] rather than a statement, and that he used scare quotes in his phrasing, we should not be pretending it was a serious statement and that that is how he identifies. I have reverted the addition; it should not be readded until consensus is reached to do so. --[[User:NatGertler|Nat Gertler]] ([[User talk:NatGertler|talk]]) 14:56, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
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