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* Only paragraph, 8th sentence: {{Tq|... both sides ...}} – Criterion 1a, "understanding"; Probably the basic configuration of the Bayou Fourche needs to be explained. If it is a river, in with direction does it flow? Did Davidson cross this river?
* Only paragraph, 9th sentence: {{Tq|... on the north side ...}} – Criterion 1a, "understanding"; was the south side still held by the confederates?
* Only paragraph, 10th sentence: {{Tq|... abandon ...}} – Criterion 1a, "understanding";. Perhaps we should be told something abous the surrender or successful retreat that allowed the confederates to continue the fight elsewere.
 
[—End of 2nd instalment— Best regards, [[User:Johannes Schade|Johannes Schade]] ([[User talk:Johannes Schade|talk]]) 18:12, 20 March 2024 (UTC)]
 
{{Reply to|Hog Farm}}. Thank you for your replies. Here comes the next round.
 
=== Background ===
* 1st paragraph, 1st sentence: {{Tq|... and had won ...}} – Criterion 1a, "understanding". This sentence might lack precision and be confusing. It says that Helena was occupied before 1863 and that the Union won major victories at unknown locations and times in northwestern Arkansas. Why not give dates and names in chronological order? The battles of [[Battle of Pea Ridge|Pea Rifge]] (March, 1862), [[Battle of Cane Hill|Cane Hill]] (November 1862), and [Battle of Prairie Grove|Prairie Grove]] (December 7, 1862) probably are the major Union victories in northwestern Arkansas that are meant. Helena was occupied on July 12, 1862.
* 1st paragraph, 1st sentence: {{Tq|... multiple ...}} – Criterion 1a, "grammar". This should be "several" as they have not much in common beyond being Union vicories as stated. Look up what is the difference.
* 1st paragraph, 2nd sentence: citation. At the end of this sentence appears the 1st citation which reads <nowiki>{{sfn|DeBlack|1994|p=59}}</nowiki>. I clicked down to the source, but there is no {{Para|url}} parameter. So I am left wondering whether it is available online. I have to try Google books, Internet Archive, Hathi, etc. and make searches by title or author. Could you please add URLs to the descriptions in the list of sources?
* 1st paragraph, 3rd sentence: {{Tq|... Arkansas River ...}} – Criterion 1a, "understanding". Readers probably do not know where Arkansas Post was, better: lower Arkansas River, or near the junction.
* 1st paragraph, 4th sentence: {{Tq|... involved participated ...}} – Criterion 1a, "understanding". It took me time to understand the "participated" immediately following the "involved". Possibly better "However, instead of pushing up the Arkansas River, the troops were withdrawn to fight at the Vicksburg Compaign."
* 1st paragraph, 5th sentence: {{Tq|Additional Union troops ...}} – Criterion 1a, "understanding". This is not very helpfull. Can't they be named, or at least the most important one? Otherwise "Other" would be better than "Additional".
* 1st paragraph, 6th sentence: {{Tq|Additional Union troops ...}} – Criterion 1a, "understanding". Thid is not very helpfull. Can't they be named, or at least the most important one? Otherwise "Other" would be better than "Additional".
* 2nd paragraph, 3rd sentence: {{Tq|... suffered over 1600 casualties.}} – Criterion 1a, "understanding". This should have been mentioned not here but above when the Battle of Helena was discussed.
* 2nd paragraph, 4th sentence: {{Tq|... fortifications accross ...}} – Criterion 1a, "understanding". This should probably be explained in more detail instead of jusr repeating what the lead says. Placing oneself with the back to a river is not normally recomended.
* 3rd paragraph, 1st sentence: {{Tq|... Witsburg Clarendan ...}} – Criterion 1a, "understanding". Could something be done to help the reader to understand approximately where these places are, and in which direction Davidson moved. For example, he moved westwards. Witsburg is north of Helena, he crossed the White River at Clarendon.
* 3rd paragraph, 3rd sentence: {{Tq|... but met minor ...}} – Criterion 1a, "understanding". After having distinguished between Davidson's and Steele's troops advancing on different routes, one might expect that resistence also differed between the two routes, or did they join together at some stage? As said before, if it is colled a battle, it cannot have been so minor. Otherwise avoid calling it a battle. What about the [[Battle of Brownsville]] that was closely related to the one at Bayou Meta?
* 6th paragraph, 6th sentence: {{Tq|... outflank ...}} – Criterion 1a, "understanding". I propose to clarify which wing was outflanked: the Confederates right wing.
 
—End of 3rd instalment— Best regards, [[User:Johannes Schade|Johannes Schade]] ([[User talk:Johannes Schade|talk]]) 21:47, 21 March 2024 (UTC)