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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. asilvering (talk) 22:01, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adam VanHo

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Adam VanHo (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:POLITICIAN. The majority of references are either non-independent, court documents, or WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS predominantly in local news. No substantive change from the previous 2009 AfD ending in deletion. I wasn't able to find any significant coverage to establish notability. GhostOfNoMan 21:02, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The previous AfD notes the author as Adamvanhoforjudge (obvious COI). This time, it's Akronbrownsfan – the very same user who created the now-deleted Midwest Law Blog article, a blog that was run by Adam VanHo (as you can see via this Wayback archive which after a few seconds redirects to http://www.vanholaw.com/blog.aspx), and with zero other contributions. Some other obvious COI edits in the article's history, too (such as 330akron, Ohiodad, Akron44308 – accounts that pop up to edit his article once and disappear). GhostOfNoMan 21:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Ohio and Pennsylvania. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:07, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I've checked for sources for this individual but can only find mentions in passing which confirm the basic facts of his legal career and him being an unsuccessful election candidate, so nothing notable enough for a standalone article. Valenciano (talk) 15:03, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Adam VanHo is a noted attorney with a long and distinguished career. Adam's extensive legal work and history of quality legal representation is testified to by his numerous appearances in a variety of media outlets. His legal cases have been written about in the New York Times. There is no basis for deleting this article. It has existed since 2010. This attempt to have it removed is an absurdity -- and so is peppering the request with references to arbitrary Wikipedia policies instead of explaining in simple terms why the article is not fit for Wikipedia. Plainly obscurantist behavior. Adam VanHo has thousands of Google hits -- you are invited to peruse his many positive reviews and testimonials from clients. This is not some backwater Saul Goodman! To end, I would also describe your cynical attempt to single out the names of article contributors as downright offensive. It would seem to me that you are implying these accounts are suspect because their names are related to Ohio, the state in which Adam VanHo practises. You would not, I suspect, give a hoot if they were named YankeesFan or DallasCowboys99. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JusticeOmen (talk • contribs) 23:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC) Blocked sockpuppet GhostOfNoMan 01:38, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I strongly encourage you to read WP:BASIC and WP:BIO. I am not engaging in "obscurantism" by referencing basic policies. Notability is a core policy of Wikipedia. If you want the article to remain, you need to be making some attempt to demonstrate its notability.
    Adam VanHo has thousands of Google hits – irrelevant, see WP:GOOGLEHITS.
    It has existed since 2010. – irrelevant, see WP:LONGTIME.
    As for This is not some backwater Saul Goodman! I never made any such aspersion. VanHo may well be a successful and accomplished lawyer, but that doesn't mean he meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines. I'm not attacking his character by saying he doesn't satisfy WP:BASIC.
    And as for labelling my cynical attempt to single out the names of article contributors as downright offensive. ... I'm not trying to offend anybody, I'm highlighting the fact that this article has a suspicious pattern of editing that suggests conflicts of interest. At least three accounts clearly local to Ohio just happen to pop up over the years and make single edits only to this one article. It's not an argument for deletion per se, it's simply an eyebrow-raising observation worth noting.
    You are invited to peruse his many positive reviews and testimonials from clients. – I shan't be doing that, thanks. GhostOfNoMan 00:50, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Non notable lawyer as far as I can tell Kingsmasher678 (talk) 23:31, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. LizardJr8 (talk) 23:33, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete fails WP:GNG and WP:NPOL. Best, GPL93 (talk) 22:52, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - I was ready to defend the attorney, but other than one case that made The New York Times in 2022, and he has been doing a good job, but really hasn’t done anything for the bar or civics that would allow him to pass my standards for lawyers. Bearian (talk) 02:53, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I think that this article should probably be WP:SALTed to prevent recreation given that this article was already recreated after an AfD by an SPA once before. The SPA also has already taken up a new (since-blocked) sock over the course of this discussion, so it's very possible that another attempt will happen in the future. Best, GPL93 (talk) 01:16, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree, it looks like there's a very strong likelihood it'll be recreated soon after. Two blocked socks have already joined this AfD (one struck, one removed by an admin) which gives me the impression that this won't be the end of it... GhostOfNoMan 18:35, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: per nomination, doesn't meet WP:POLITICIAN. SirMemeGod  13:09, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. As always, unelected candidates for political office don't get Wikipedia articles just for being candidates — the notability bar at WP:NPOL is holding a notable political office, not just running for one — but the article is failing to reliably source that he had any serious claim to preexisting notability as a lawyer, since that work is referenced to a mixture of primary sources and glancing namechecks of his existence in sources that aren't about him. I don't know if I agree that it would need to be salted to prevent recreation — the recreation after deletion was in 2009, so it's not entirely clear that there's an imminent danger of recreation now. We can salt if that proves necessary, and I don't necessarily object to immediately salting from this discussion if other people feel more strongly than I do that salting would be needed. Bearcat (talk) 20:07, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 12:46, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rick Brook

Rick Brook (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. The only RS coverage is run of the mill high school sports coverage in local news outlets. Being " most successful boys basketball coach in the history of Sebring McKinley High School" certainly does not establish notability. GPL93 (talk) 12:28, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think any of them are notability-lending. One is the high school he attended, the high school where he coached, and one specific to Ohio high school basketball coaches by the Ohio basketball coaches association. Both high schools appear to have had and still have rather low enrollments. Best, GPL93 (talk) 16:20, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Complex/Rational 17:47, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Bores

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Non notable YouTuber who doesn't meet WP:GNG. A7 may even apply. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:15, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • 14 Sep 2024 – Adam VanHo (talk · edit · hist) AfDed by GhostOfNoMeme (t · c) was closed as delete by Asilvering (t · c) on 21 Sep 2024; see discussion (15 participants)
  • 09 Sep 2024 – Rick Brook (talk · edit · hist) AfDed by GPL93 (t · c) was closed as delete by Explicit (t · c) on 16 Sep 2024; see discussion (7 participants)

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