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Category:Top 25 Report

Hi liz,

Sorry to bother you -- I could not figure out who else to ask this question: I checked the history of Category:Top 25 Report to see who created it, but all I can see there is your edit of 18:05, 14 December 2013 and nothing else. Just curious. XOttawahitech (talk) 19:24, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Ottawahitech. It looks like I created the category but it's Serendipodous who comes up with the weekly Top 25 chart. The Top 25 has been generated for over a year now, is an ongoing statistical breakdown and deserved a category of its own. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:50, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Strange. I usually see "(New category.)" not "(added Category:Wikipedia statistics using HotCat)" in the edit summary for a creation of a new cat. XOttawahitech (talk) 15:30, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #95

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Ban/Block

Please read WP:Banning policy to understand the difference between a user who is blocked and a user who is banned to see why I removed the comments by that IP address.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:02, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

I checked that account, Ryūlóng, and they have never been blocked and there was no notice that they had been banned. If they are banned, it should be noted on their account. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:09, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Again, you are mistaking the meaning of block and ban. The IP is a sockpuppet of a banned editor who used the username Wiki-star. Because Wiki-star has been indefinitely blocked since 2006, he is de facto banned because no one would ever think it would be a good idea to unblock him considering he has been harassing Zarbon since apparently 2004. Again, the IP is being used by someone who is banned.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:11, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Liz. I've been here since 2006. I was an administrator for a period of time longer than you've been a registered editor. I know Wikipedia policy. It is clear that you do not. Please acquaint yourself with these policies, particularly the ones I have pointed out to you, before speaking up on behalf of someone who has been stalking and harassing another editor across this site and WikiQuote for more than 8 years and recently chose me as his new whipping boy.

Also, you do not need to copy the styling of my signature in order to get my attention. Just use my normal username within the template {{U}}.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:34, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Per WP:Banning policy, never restore a banned user's content. Doing so means you are accepting all responsibility for the banned user's content or you are proxy editing for that banned user.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 00:18, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Sigh. You know, I've now read a slew of conversations involving you on Wikipedia over the past 8 years (including RfCs, RfAs and Arbitration) and come to the conclusion that, regardless of the consequences, this is what you do...you go after accounts you judge to be sock puppets with an unbridled fury and zealousness. Removing your admin privileges didn't change that, time hasn't changed that, people asking you to ease up on your ferocity hasn't changed that, it's just how you operate on Wikipedia.

A 24 hour block will have no effect on your conviction that you tracking down and deleting the edits of people you view as sock puppets takes precedence over the wishes of other editors that you don't edit their Talk Page. I don't see a rosy future for you, despite your clear record of WP contributions, if you disregard repeated warnings from other users.

But all I know for sure though is that I do not want to be part of this drama. So, I'll stay out of your way and I hope you no longer come to my Talk Page implying that me undoing your edit on a Talk Page means I have some connection to a banned user...a revert that, by the way, X96lee15 thanked me for making. But enough verbiage, thanks for informing me of your stance and goodbye. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:39, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Category:Terrorists by status

Hi Liz, I'd appreciate it if you would take another look at the CFD for this category and give serious consideration to my counter-proposal to rename the category rather than merging/deleting. Regards, Cgingold (talk) 02:18, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #96

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

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  • Created backend Time parsers (yet another necessary step towards doing more in the backend instead of in Java Script in the frontend)
  • Automatic builds created, tested and deployed to beta labs every day!
  • Investigate Elastic Search as possible backend for queries
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Category:Warehouse 13 episodes

Hi Liz. I was wondering why you removed all the articles from Category:Warehouse 13 episodes? I thought it was common practice to categorise TV episode articles in this way. Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 01:11, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

DH85868993, I don't recall how many episodes have their own article but typically we don't have categories that have less than, say, 6 articles and there needs to be a clear room for expansion. As this is the final season of Warehouse 13, I doubt that many editors will go back and write full articles on past episodes from other seasons. If I'm wrong about this and you expect to write further articles, it might warrant having a category devoted to the episodes. But it is definitely not the case that most television series have categories for their episodes because there are few TV shows where editors write up articles for individual episodes.

If you choose to revert and add the category back to the articles, I'll probably bring the matter to WP:CFD and propose Category:Warehouse 13 episodes for deletion. This way, other editors can voice their opinion.

By the way, I appreciate you being polite about an editing decision you clearly don't agree with. It makes a difference! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:28, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Actually, there is no minimum number of pages per category at all, but 5, not 6, is the number commonly thrown around as a general agreement as to the minimum. I agree that there is probably no need to have the episode cat at this point, but when you removed the articles from the cat, you should have added the articles to Category:Warehouse 13 and nominated Category:Warehouse 13 episodes for deletion as an empty cat. --AussieLegend (✉) 02:47, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

You are correct, AussieLegend, and that was an oversight on my part. I'll double-check those articles. By the way, in the days since you posted this, I have taken quite a few categories to CfD for a proper discussion. The discussions haven't closed yet as the process takes some time. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:17, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

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Constant removal of Jewish categories

Please stop removing categories of people of Middle Eastern/Southwest Asian descent from their proper Jewish categories. It's been agreed upon to include them in various discussions, and you've been reverted every single time you did removed such categories, but you still persist. Next time, a warning shall be sent. Yambaram (talk) 19:13, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

First, Yambaram, it has not been "agreed upon". There was a months-long discussion at WP:WikiProject Judaism and it was far from resolved, with a slight majority arguing against labeling all people of Jewish descent (not Jewish, of Jewish descent) as being "Asian". I have as much (if not more) support for removing the Asian category as there is for keeping it. You are stating a false consensus.

Second, my "constant" removal was actually the removal on three articles. Considering that I have over 17,000 edits, I do not spend a lot of time editing topic on Jewish descent and saying I am constantly removing these categories is purely hyperbole.

That said, I do not want to edit war. But I will bring up this subject again and see if rationality will prevail and there can be a clear consensus for saying, for example, that an individual who is of Brazilian-Jewish descent is not of Asian descent. It is ludicrous to argue that every person, on every continent, who ever had one Jewish ancestor somewhere in their family history, is Asian. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:25, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

I know there were some discussions about this in the past and you're welcome to start a new one if you want.

Nearly all the categories I added were of "Middle Eastern descent", I agree that the Asian one can be much more disputed. But DNA tests, scientific results, and archaeological evidence don't lie, and therefore the Middle Eastern categories should be included in the proper places. Regarding that example you gave - note that categories can never be 100% accurate for 100% of the pages they are used on, and this is nothing new and doesn't only apply here. Yambaram (talk) 19:40, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

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Reply to your message

Re: your post on User_talk:175.38.131.95 Yes, and it's an area that I have a strong interest in. May I enquire as to whether there is some sort of issue?I presume that "diving into a contentious category" is something that I have the right to do, and honestly, I'm not sure I would consider that category to be particularly contentious, especially since a very substantial percentage of the Jewish population do have Semitic DNA markers. But thank you for your input. Kitty (talk) 19:51, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for identifying yourself, Kitty. It's not that this is simply a contentious area, it was just strange to see an IP account whose only edit was on this divisive subject. Of course, there are no off-limits areas, I just thought you might be one of the editors involved in the debate who I'd be familiar with. For background reading, look over Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Judaism/Archive 32, an entire archive page devoted to this question of whether individuals "of Jewish descent" should be categorized as "of Asian descent". The result was there was no consensus either way so you might find your edit reverted, like I did mine. I am trying to start another discussion to seek some resolution, one way or the other, on the WP:CfD talk page.

And, for what it's worth, most articles relating in some way to race or ethnicity seem to be areas of contention. Political issues and health-related topics, too, but ethnicity even more so. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:30, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Liz :) Kitty (talk) 01:20, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #98

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February 2014

I had to revert you on this one, as this cat was there when the discussion concluded at the end of December 2013, and there was no consensus for removal or for addition. See the diff. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:American_people_of_Jewish_descent&diff=588133201&oldid=582517384 Evildoer187 (talk) 21:19, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

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The reason is privacy concerns

Liz, the admonished administrator Kww has been deleting my communication to you on your own talkpage if you haven't noticed. I will not repost it once you tell me it is unwelcome, not him. Again, I saw where you said about me that you "don't understand the reluctance to be forthcoming about alternate accounts." Excuse me if there's a note of frustration in my tone, but *I explained this* in my very first post, and at multiple points in the RFC/U. Once more: I don't have "alternate accounts." I am a single account user with a single prior account that I abandoned for privacy concerns. I hope you will consider going back [1] and changing your viewpoint. This is Colton Cosmic. 22:28, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

No, your comments are not unwelcome and I saw your first comment which was similar to this one. This is such a big mess that I don't think that my comment will make that difference in your case. I certainly understand privacy concerns but it seems like this is a trade-off, either tell ARBCOM your previous account or lose Colton Cosmic. Something has to change in your argument because you are not swaying public opinion. It comes down to what you value more, your privacy or having the Colton Cosmic account. I'm not sure you can have both. By the way, I don't think that ARBCOM gossips, just confide in one arbitrator, they can check on the old account and then consider an unblock. But repeating your current argument over and over again, on different user talk page is not proving to be successful. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:40, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, well against my better judgment I told Jimbo my former account. He had agreed to treat my appeal favorably if it checked out, though he did not agree specifically to unblock me. Instead, he appeared to become disinterested after eagerly emailing me three times to convince me to tell him the account. He just ceased responding. Finally a month and an half later or so, he said without explanation or criticism of my former account (which is indeed unblocked, unwarned, and so forth) that I now had to tell the Arbcom mailing list. That is not the favorable treatment he had promised. I was suckered by Jimbo Wales. What else? I *do* think Arbcom gossips, and they've historically leaked. I'm not concerned with public opinion right now, was only trying to get *your* support. This is Colt on Co5mic.

Well, Colton, I've read your about your situation and I can't explain Jimmy Wales' action. Personally, I would not expect him to follow up with requests from individual Wikipedians to look into their cases but I guess he has done that occasionally. I'm not sure what else I can say that I haven't already said above. At this point, no admin is going to reverse your block on their own (because of the likelihood of the action being reverted by another admin) and your approach is not having much success. Time to change strategies, I think. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 15:58, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

DRN

Do you think we should do it? I want to get everybody's opinion before we proceed.Evildoer187 (talk) 12:45, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

As long as you and Gilad555 edit war, the only resolution will be to hand out blocks. Liz, could you please help stop their joined efforts on Category:American people of Jewish descent? Debresser (talk) 01:32, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Evildoer187, I believe Iryna Harpy volunteered to put together a case. I would, since I initiated the discussion at Wikiproject Judaism but I think, at this point, I'm not seen as neutral and I think the case should be presented and then discussed without debates about the accuracy of the presentation.

Debresser, you know that you and I are pretty much in agreement on this particular issue. I initiated the original discussion, solicited feedback from editors who had posted on the WP Judaism talk page before, explained my stance on descent categories and the subsequent discussion lasted about a month without consensus. A couple of months went by, I made some category changes to test the waters and was reverted. In the {WP:BRD]] scenario, it's now time to discuss. I'm not looking forward to it, I'm sure it'll rehash our previous conversation but I'd like to get this settled, one way or the other. I don't think anyone wants to get blocked for edit warring but that's what I see in the future unless we get a third opinion on this to break the stalemate.

Looking towards a DRN case, one thing that I think got the conversation off-track was editors who showed up and argued based on a theological, biblical perspective. It's a social and cultural debate, not a biblical one. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:51, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Social and cultural arguments were made on both sides. I don't recall seeing the Bible brought up in that discussion at any point by anyone except Debresser, but I could be wrong. Debresser, who are you to accuse anyone of edit warring when you yourself just broke WP:3RR?Evildoer187 (talk) 02:10, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

"A couple of months went by, I made some category changes to test the waters and was reverted." What exactly do you think "no consensus" means? It means no changes until consensus is achieved, not "wait a few months and make the contested changes anyway".Evildoer187 (talk) 02:23, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

I thought no-consensus means that there was no decision, either way. It doesn't mean "do not ever make any future edits ever on this subject." Are you suggesting that every topic where no consensus exists should not be edited until consensus is reached? Because that would invalidate a lot of edits on controversial topics where no consensus exists or where consensus is changing and evolving. Do you have any WP policy that asserts that topics that have "no consensus" should not be edited and, basically, put on hold for months or years? If so, point me in that direction and I'll admit I'm wrong. But that is not how I've observed how WP actually works when there is a difference of opinion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:32, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

"It doesn't mean "do not ever make any future edits ever on this subject." Are you suggesting that every topic where no consensus exists should not be edited until consensus is reached?" That has been my understanding of Wikipedia policy, i.e. if there is no consensus for a particular change, it should not be made. The crux of the matter here is that neither of us have consensus for the changes we desire. I'd like to see something worked out between all of us, but I am uncertain that this is possible at this particular time, hence my suggestion to let this calm down for a while. I have personal issues to attend to as well, and all of this drama has been a distraction from that.Evildoer187 (talk) 09:31, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

I have to get on with some IRL 'stuff' at the moment, but will return to take some notes on the earlier discussion tomorrow. I sincerely hope a DRN brings some fresh perspectives on the matter. Cheers for the moment, everyone! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 06:12, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

That would be awesome, Iryna...as tired as everyone is with discussing this topic, I think the desire not to repeatedly rehash this debate endlessly in the future is stronger. Thanks for taking on this challenge! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:32, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Wikimedia Highlights from December 2013

Highlights from the Wikimedia Foundation Report and the Wikimedia engineering report for December 2013, with a selection of other important events from the Wikimedia movement

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  • Recipients of Annual Plan Grants (FDC) and Individual Engagements Grants (IEG) announced
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A barnstar for you!

	The Brilliant Idea Barnstar
	Thanks, Liz, for the great thoughts on my talk page, and for calling out that it IS a pretty cool job. Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 18:13, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Wow! Thanks, Philippe Beaudette, it's much appreciated! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:17, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Feedback?

If you have any thoughts on the case for blocking me as a sockpuppet, your input would be greatly valued. Thanks! The Cap'n (talk) 18:39, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

The Cap'n, I think it's ridiculous, frankly. But I don't think there is a place in a SPI for me to say that. The way I understand it, check users can't match an IP account with a registered account definitively so they can only look at behavioral elements and see if the two accounts had similar behavior and editing styles. I think this is ordinarily inconclusive but this strategy has been used to block accounts in the past. Unfortunately, "sock" is a terrible label and should the label stick, every future account you create will be blocked if your association with it is established. That's why it is extremely convenient and effective for editors you disagree with to launch a SPI if there is any suspicion that an editor is using more than one account. When I last looked at this case, there hadn't been a decision and the checkuser was asking for a second opinion.

My only thought that if you did use this IP address because you weren't logged in, just declare that to be the case. I have two IP addresses listed on my user page that I have edits because I neglected to log in. It is not wrong to have an alternative account if you acknowledge it and don't use it for nefarious purposes (like voting twice in an RfA, AfD or covertly supporting one account with another). So, if this is you, let them know. If it's not you, then let the investigation wrap up. I've never seen an SPI where the individual in question played a part so I'd just leave it alone.

The impression I'm left with is that it was a helluva lot of trouble to compile all of this information and present this case. There are clearly editors here that don't want your viewpoint heard. I know it's hard not to take this personally but it seems like a strategic move to drive out people with a differing opinion. It could be you, it could be me or anyone else who spoke out. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:43, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

I hadn't looked at the SPI and seen your response there when I posted my comment here. It makes some of my remarks moot. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:47, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for reverting my user page. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 20:39, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

It was pretty bad, I'm surprised that Cluebot didn't catch it. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:47, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2014 February newsletter

And so ends the most competitive first round we have ever seen, with 38 points required to qualify for round 2. Last year, 19 points secured a place; before that, 11 (2012) or 8 (2011) were enough. This is both a blessing and a curse. While it shows the vigourous good health of the competition, it also means that we have already lost many worthy competitors. Our top three scorers were:

1. Godot13 (submissions), a WikiCup newcomer whose high-quality scans of rare banknotes represent an unusual, interesting and valuable contribution to Wikipedia. Most of Godot's points this round have come from a large set of pictures used in Treasury Note (1890–91).
2. Adam Cuerden (submissions), a WikiCup veteran and a finalist last year, Adam is also a featured picture specialist, focusing on the restoration of historical images. This month's promotions have included a carefully restored set of artist William Russell Flint's work.
3. WikiRedactor (submissions), another WikiCup newcomer. WikiRedactor has claimed points for good article reviews and good articles relating to pop music, many of which were awarded bonus points. Articles include Sky Ferreira, Hannah Montana 2: Meet Miley Cyrus and "Wrecking Ball" (Miley Cyrus song).

Other competitors of note include:

• Hahc21 (submissions), who helped take Thirty Flights of Loving through good article candidates and featured article candidates, claiming the first first featured article of the competition.
• Prism (submissions), who claimed the first featured list of the competition with Natalia Kills discography.
• Cwmhiraeth (submissions), who takes the title of the contributor awarded the highest bonus point multiplier (resulting in the highest scoring article) of the competition so far. Her high-importance salamander, now a good article, scored 108 points.

After such a competitive first round, expect the second round to also be fiercely fought. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 1 but before the start of round 2 can be claimed in round 2, but please do not update your submission page until March (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points equally.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email), The ed17 (talk • email) and Miyagawa (talk • email) 00:01, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Books & Bytes, Issue 4

Books and Bytes

Volume 1, Issue 4, February 2014

News for February from your Wikipedia Library.

Donations drive: news on TWL's partnership efforts with publishers

Open Access: Feature from Ocaasi on the intersection of the library and the open access movement

American Library Association Midwinter Conference: TWL attended this year in Philadelphia

Royal Society Opens Access To Journals: The UK's venerable Royal Society will give the public (and Wikipedians) full access to two of their journal titles for two days on March 4th and 5th

Going Global: TWL starts work on pilot projects in other language Wikipedias

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Wikimedia Highlights from January 2014

Highlights from the Wikimedia Foundation Report and the Wikimedia engineering report for January 2014, with a selection of other important events from the Wikimedia movement

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  • Multimedia vision for 2016, and request for comment on MP4 video
  • New search engine
• Data and Trends
• Financials
• Other highlights from the Wikimedia movement
  • Project to record voices of Wikipedia subject gains support from Stephen Fry and the BBC
  • Ukrainian chapter and Wikipedia community protest laws proposed by Ukrainian government

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Wikidata weekly summary #99

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
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  • Open RfAs: לערי ריינהארט, Pamputt
  • Closed RfAs: Epìdosis (Successful)
• Events/Press/Blogs
  • Wikidata scholarships for the Zürich Hackathon
  • Wikidata FOSS Outreach Program for Women
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  • Newest properties: unemployment rate, manner of death, file extension, received signal, prevalence, connecting service, first performance, Universal Decimal Classification, Chinese Library Classification, Dharma Drum Buddhist College place ID, Dharma Drum Buddhist College person ID, MEP directory identifier, Rodovid ID, handle, Gewässerkennzahl, LIBRIS editions, numeric value, visitors per year, Geokod, approximation algorithm, transmitted signal
  • Showcase item: Why not improve Kleinmachnow (Q104192) to showcase standard?
  • Wikidata's presence: vici.org are using Wikidata identifiers in their data storage
• Development
  • Made loading items a lot faster
  • Enabled access to the data on Wikidata for Wikisource
  • Fixed the diff view sometimes showing the wrong revision
  • Attended ConFoo and learned all of the things
  • Released Wikibase DataModel Serialization 0.1
  • Continue work on caching javascript config variables in parser cache
  • Started to make Wikidata even faster by removing StaticExpert and BifidExpert
  • Started reviewing interface animations. You should be able to disable them all by setting $.fx.off = true; in your Special:MyPage/common.js.
  • Fixed Wikidata looking a bit odd when enabling the Typography refresh Beta feature.
• Monthly Tasks
  • Fix a format or content violation for the MedlinePlus ID (P604) property
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item

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GAN March 2014 Backlog Drive

The March 2014 GAN Backlog Drive has begun and will end on April 1, 2014! Sent by Dom497 on behalf of MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:01, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Times Square Studios the studio in NYC vs Times Square Studios (division)

In regard to an edit you made to the Times Square Studios (division), I think that you confused it with the Times Square Studios facility in NYC. Both are part of Disney-ABC which is a source of confusion for many.

General Hospital is indeed taped in California but it is part of the Times Square Studios (the division, not the NYC studio) just like the rest of the Disney-ABC daytime shows with the exception of Live with Michael & Kelly. Regards. Farine (talk) 21:25, 2 March 2014 (UTC)