Onel5969
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41 |
Edit Count
Wiki mark-up link
Hi! You might find these handy:
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:35, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
Other useful links
- Special:New pages feed
- New pages sorted
- Stub Sort
- New Accounts
- Website Archive
- Cheatsheet
- Earwig's Copyvio tool
- Dabfix
- Dabsolver
- Dablink
- Dabs with missing entries
- Carbon dating the creation of web content (for checking for wiki mirrors)
- WorldCat
- Google Scholar profile
- WorldCat site
- Pending Changes
- G13 nominees
Links for new editors
If you're leaving a question regarding an article you're attempting to get onto Wikipedia, here are some links you might find helpful:
- General notability criteria
- Introduction and Getting started
- Contributing to Wikipedia
- The five pillars of Wikipedia
- How to edit a page and How to develop articles
- How to create your first article
- Simplified Manual of Style
- How to structure and layout your article
- On how to properly format your citations
Hi Onel5969, I hope this message finds you well! I saw that you reverted my redirect/move for Piperia elegans (to Platanthera elegans) earlier. I wonder if we could just discuss it a bit? The Wikipedia page for Piperia is already a redirect to Platanthera (because the former is now considered a synonym of the latter), so I thought I would just move Piperia elegans to Platanthera elegans. Looking through the pages for the other former Piperia species, however, it seems that none of them reflect the genus change. If I moved all the former Piperias to their respective Platanthera pages to ensure uniformity, would that address your objection, or is there another issue? I am also working on hopefully expanding the pages for the former Piperias, if that helps. Best regards, JadeSpire (talk) 22:14, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- JadeSpire, hi. What you did is called a "cut and paste move" (see WP:CUTANDPASTE). Which isn't allowed on WP due to attribution concerns. What you have to do is actually WP:MOVE the page, which moves the page's history with it. If you don't have pagemover status, you can go to WP:REQMOVE and make a request there. I don't know enough about binomial nomenclature to comment on whether or not the move should be made. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 22:56, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for the help! JadeSpire (talk) 23:12, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hi again, quick question: some of the Piperia species seem to already have corresponding Platanthera pages (P. elegans included), so it's not allowing me to do a simple move; how do I circumvent this problem? JadeSpire (talk) 23:27, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hi again, I was actually able to move some other Piperia pages to their corresponding Platanthera pages, so I guess the issue is that the corresponding Platanthera pages already had significant history? Could you help me with these moves? The pages are Piperia yadonii to Platanthera yadonii, Piperia elegans to Platanthera elegans, and Piperia michaelii to Platanthera michaelii. Also, I made a mistake when I said earlier that the Piperia page was already a redirect to Platanthera. I had searched "Piperia" on Google, and the primary results returned Platanthera, so I assumed a redirect was already made. There is actually a separate Piperia page with some content; if I wanted to merge it with Platanthera (perhaps in a section detailing the taxonomic shift), how could I preserve attributions to other users' edits? JadeSpire (talk) 23:44, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- JadeSpire, these are not simple questions (although they are not difficult either). Give me tonight and the morning to take a look at them, and see what needs to be done. Then it would be easier for me to do it, and then you can take a look at what I did. Okay? Onel5969 TT me 00:16, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- Sounds good! Thank you very much for your time and assistance. JadeSpire (talk) 00:17, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- JadeSpire, okay, so you've opened move discussions on several pages. Those pages can't be moved until those discussions are closed, Piperia elegans, Piperia michaelii, Piperia yadonii, and Platanthera elongata. Once those discussions are closed (this can take a few days, a week, sometimes a month), then a "round-robin switch" can be done, which will move the current article to the new name, and leave a redirect. As a pagemover, I can also do this for you. The results of the round robin are just like the pages you moved yourself, like Platanthera cooperi. However, you can't do that, being blocked by the existing redirect. If there are comments on the talk pages look positive for the move, and there are at least 2-3, let me know. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 11:56, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much! In case there are not too many comments, though, what will be the outcome? Also – I am applying for a username change, so I just wanted to let you know in case my name is changed when I return to this thread. :) JadeSpire (talk) 21:39, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- JadeSpire, okay, so you've opened move discussions on several pages. Those pages can't be moved until those discussions are closed, Piperia elegans, Piperia michaelii, Piperia yadonii, and Platanthera elongata. Once those discussions are closed (this can take a few days, a week, sometimes a month), then a "round-robin switch" can be done, which will move the current article to the new name, and leave a redirect. As a pagemover, I can also do this for you. The results of the round robin are just like the pages you moved yourself, like Platanthera cooperi. However, you can't do that, being blocked by the existing redirect. If there are comments on the talk pages look positive for the move, and there are at least 2-3, let me know. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 11:56, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- Sounds good! Thank you very much for your time and assistance. JadeSpire (talk) 00:17, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- JadeSpire, these are not simple questions (although they are not difficult either). Give me tonight and the morning to take a look at them, and see what needs to be done. Then it would be easier for me to do it, and then you can take a look at what I did. Okay? Onel5969 TT me 00:16, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
Why did you delete the Tapete article?
It is a notable part of blind history. 2A01:4C8:72:A70B:99A2:1D43:3DF7:DB54 (talk) 13:36, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
Meituan-Dianping to Meituan
The change request has been added to Meituan-Dianping talk page. Ckh3111 (talk) 13:57, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
Notability - WP:NALBUM is not an excuse to bypass other notability guidelines and delete en mass
You should not be aggressively deleting good faith edits and articles based on first impressions. Take due care to follow the WP:GOODFAITH and WP:NEXIST guidelines. Then when an article seems to fail the notability guidelines, follow WP:FAILN to first give the benefit of the doubt. Thank you. AusChartMan (talk) 17:32, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- AusChartMan, learn notability criteria, please. Stop making work for other editors. And don't post on my page again. Onel5969 TT me 18:31, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Page Review
Hi! Thank you for your outstanding contribution to the Wikipedia community. Can you review that article, if you will be able to? It just stalled all my work. I would highly appreciate this. Thanks! MarcusTraianus (talk) 20:03, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Reason for deletion of Time Will Tell (Hebe Tien album) Wikipedia page
May I kindly seek your clarification on the purpose of deleting the Wikipedia page on Time Will Tell (Hebe Tien album)? The Wikipedia page was curated with hours of effort from various parties including myself. At the very least a proper reason to justify the deletion should be provided. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moiboy (talk • contribs) 09:54, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- Moiboy, first, the article wasn't deleted, it was redirected. Second, the reason was given in the edit summary. It doesn't pass WP:NALBUM, which says in those cases, the album title should be redirected to the artist. The current sourcing includes two advertisements, an instagram pos (non-reliable), are all about a different album of hers (Nobody Knows). At first, I thought it might be a simple case of the computer translating the title differently, but none of the tracks appear to match. Even if they were about this album, the current sourcing doesn't come close to establishing notability. Onel5969 TT me 11:57, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
History of AEK Athens F.C. deletion
I want this redirect to be deleted so to move the page back to it's original space, as it is wrongfully removed. Can you help me do this (by deleting the redirect)? Thank you! BEN917 (talk) 14:55, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- BEN917, hi ... yes I could, but you can do it yourself. You need to go through the RfD process (redirects for discussion), or in this case, or requesting a speedy deletion through G6, and explain that you want to move the existing page there. I am hesitant to do it myself, since I'm not sure what the correct title of the article should be. Whether or not Athens should be included in the name seems ambiguous, even in the parent article. Onel5969 TT me 13:01, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- Onel5969 That was helpful too, thanks!! But how can I do that? And to asnwer to your last sentence there are many clubs (see AEK), mainly in Greece called AEK, thats why the offical name of the club which the article is referred is AEK Athens F.C.! BEN917 (talk) 16:05, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
Missy (audio drama series)
Was there a reason you redirected this article but did not fix the issue of the transcluded tables? You've caused an error for the past two weeks at the parent list article. Was there a reason, or just a lack of effort on your part to reach out to anyone else? Cheers. -- /Alex/21 02:10, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
Thagadu
Hi - can you move the page Thagadu back to the main site? The article was completely rewritten and has no contribution from paid editor User:TamilMirchi. Please take a look at the history. Neutral Fan (talk) 00:48, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Happy First Edit Day!
- I second that. All the best, Bil!
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 12:39, 6 November 2020 (UTC)- I third it! Though I don't have a link as clever as Gareth's dag nab it. Enjoy your weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 17:03, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you Gareth Griffith-Jones and MarnetteD, and of course, the Birthday Committee. Onel5969 TT me 14:40, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
- I third it! Though I don't have a link as clever as Gareth's dag nab it. Enjoy your weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 17:03, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Nancy Salzman
Hi, please complete more research into the NXIVM case before nominating this article for deletion. Salzman may have gotten off with limited sentencing but she was central in developing the cult. I suggest you read the deposition by the U.S. District Court.[1] Salzman's lack of medical expertise in conducting psychotherapy is another element that deserves more exposure. Under Wikipedia:Notability (Perpatrators) "#2 The motivation for the crime or the execution of the crime is unusual—or has otherwise been considered noteworthy—such that it is a well-documented historic event. Generally, historic significance is indicated by sustained coverage of the event in reliable secondary sources which persists beyond contemporaneous news coverage and devotes significant attention to the individual's role.", Salzman would qualify due to historical documentation of her involvement in the development of the cult as well as the medical malpracice ESP hypnosis sessions.[2] This is has been documented by a number of podcasts and documentaries, and most recently The Vow. — Scott218 (talk) 17:02, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
References
Super League XXV regular season table
The table is included in the main article because it's been created as a new wiki page. That's the only reason it shows up, otherwise it wouldn't be there. When you added the redirect, it removed it from the main article to. I didn't create the page, it was done last night to replace the existing one, due to Salford being deducted 3 wins and the table being used as WPCT, it doesn't work out.. so a new page was created with the exact same results etc. If the page gets deleted, then I'm pretty certain it will remove it from the main page to... L1amw90 (talk) 04:27, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
tag from Jenny Ungless, which you proposed for deletion. The article in my opinion does satisfy WP:GNG requirements. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}}
back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! Andysmith248 (talk) 13:00, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
Rosie Banks (author)
Can you at least move the page to Rosie Banks (author) --82.23.69.143 (talk) 11:52, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
El Sebou: suggestion to remove the article from mainspace
Hi - can you please be specific about what you think needs to be done to improve the proposed article on El Sebou to meet standards? The article is in development as part of a student project in a class, and yes, the student very much wants to improve the article to come up to standards. thanks, Reel315 (talk) 16:27, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Reel315, Hi. First, when asking a question on a user's talk page, it is always helpful to put in a link to the article you're talking about, like this: El Sebou' : Egyptian Birth Ritual. While it wasn't a problem to track it down in this case, it can be probelmatic. Now regarding your query. The two notability guidelines are WP:GNG or WP:NFILM. In a nutshell, to meet GNG, you need several in-depth articles about the subject, and they have to come from independent sources. Currently, there are zero of these in the article. All are promo pieces about the film. Most folks use newspapers and periodicals to come up with sources, sometimes books. I did a cursory search and found very little about the documentary. Doesn't mean the sourcing isn't out there. the WP:NFILM is what is known as a SN, or specialty notability criteria. That list is very specific and can be found at the link. Hope this helps. But remember that not everything is notable. It helps to familiarize yourself with the notability guidelines, and that can help to decide what to write about. Onel5969 TT me 17:58, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi -- re El Sebou' : Egyptian Birth Ritual --as you might guess, I'm a newbie also at this, and I did not know about the links part in communications -- so I appreciate the heads-up. (Now to learn how to put a link into ; but am glad to know. Thanks for your quick response. I shall underscore the necessity of getting notable sources into the articles before the students try to go to the mainspace. The students are responsible to locate and use good notable sources appropriately. That's part of the assignment. I appreciate also that you took a look for possible sources - yes, they are hard to find. But yes, there are several sources that should meet the notability requirement (the film was vetted prior to the assignment). I will check out the specialty notability criteria and revisit the notability guidelines. Thanks again for your prompt reply. Reel315 (talk) 18:42, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
Page Deletion
Hi, You marked a page I did for speedy deletion and it was deleted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Manitou1. The grounds for the deletion were [A tag has been placed on Aubrey Hruby requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://www.chase.com/digital/online-banking.]
The page was a bio page to a notable person. There was no resemblance and no overlap to a Chase banking page. Please advise how to reinstate this page.
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manitou1 (talk • contribs) 17:10, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Manitou1, Alexf was the admin who actually deleted the article, so you might ask them. Onel5969 TT me 18:08, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
Ali Haydar
I am sorry, I have reverted this[1] and I do not understand why my articles are being listed for deletion everytime! I have seen a lot of unreferenced pages including a few about non-notable academics, published here for years and here in my article I cited references including all thoese published works where you can verify the contributors but still it is deleted, why sir? You could have used {{Refimprove}} maintenance tag to the article instead of deleting the whole contribution? --Freoanlsji (talk) 18:26, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Freoanlsji, no, there is no evidence of notability. Onel5969 TT me 23:50, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- The person meets all the criteria except for the 1 and 4 of the WP:NACADEMIC. Have you really checked it? Freoanlsji (talk) 17:15, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- Freoanlsji, yes. Have you? 3 of the 4 refs you added failed verifying. Onel5969 TT me 17:17, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- The sources I used in the article were to show the citations of the person. If you need sources explicitly mentioning the positions then okay will do that as well. Anything else you want to suggest please? Freoanlsji (talk) 17:23, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- Freoanlsji, yes. Have you? 3 of the 4 refs you added failed verifying. Onel5969 TT me 17:17, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- The person meets all the criteria except for the 1 and 4 of the WP:NACADEMIC. Have you really checked it? Freoanlsji (talk) 17:15, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
Why are you removing the Jawi script?
The Jawi script is not a dialect of some extinct language! It is a writing system use to write the Malay language, if you're ignorant then next time I will explain it to you!
- Because you were doing it incorrectly. Perhaps the ignorance is with you.Onel5969 TT me 23:49, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
NSW Cup
The competition is going to have a new sponsor next year and instead of changing the page each year with the new deals, we should just leave it at NSW Cup. We don't have Betfred Super League and NRL Telstra Premiership, so I don't see how this is different.[1] WDM10 (talk) 19:09, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ "NSWRL confirms NSW Cup in 2021". NSWRL. Retrieved 10 November 2020.
- WDM10, what you did is a cut and paste move, which is not allowed due to attribution concerns. See WP:CUTANDPASTE. Onel5969 TT me 23:51, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- Oh I see, sorry about that. Could you please make the move in the right fashion? WDM10 (talk) 23:55, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- WDM10, I'll give it the old college try. Onel5969 TT me 23:57, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- WDM10, okay, done. Thanks for your bringing it to WP attention. Onel5969 TT me 00:02, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- Cool. Thanks for your help. WDM10 (talk) 00:17, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- Oh I see, sorry about that. Could you please make the move in the right fashion? WDM10 (talk) 23:55, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
Bludgeoning accusation
Hi One5969—I'd kindly request that you strike your accusation of WP:Bludgeoning. AfDs are meant to be a discussion, and while it would be inappropriate to, well, bludgeon the process, there is nothing untoward about civilly, concisely, and non-repetitively responding to arguments that have been raised. Accusing others of bludgeoning within that context actively harms discussion by seeking to turn the page into a straight vote at the expense of healthy engagement with policy-based arguments. Regards, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 03:15, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- And you're continuing your bludgeoning here. Stop it. And don't write on my talk page again. Onel5969 TT me 11:33, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Michael Gruenbaum - how to improve this page to move it out of drafts
Hello
I am new at creating wikipedia pages, and just submitted one entitled "Michael Gruenbaum", which was sent by you back to draft, because apparently there aren't enough sources. The page I submitted included links to the New York Times Book Review about his memoirs, a recent interview about his career with the Institute of Transportation Engineers (the premier organization for this field worldwide), a wikipedia page including notable survivors from Mr. Gruenbaum's camp with a mention of his name, and reviews from numerous other well-known publications. Can you help me to figure out what more I should include? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Placscrib (talk) 22:51, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- Placscrib, hi. First, very nice job on the article, well-written and structured. The issue is that there are 2 whole sections unreferenced. If you simply provide references for those, it's good to go, Keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 22:59, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Quick question: I do have references I could list for those two sections you mentioned, but they are for a published (printed) book, which as far as I know is not online yet. Would that be sufficient, or does it have to be an online reference? Placscrib (talk) 23:16, 12 November 2020 (UTC) Placscrib (talk) 23:16, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- Placscrib, absolutely. There is no requirement for refs to be online. However, offline refs do require specific stuff to be included. You can find out what at WP:CITE, and specifically for books at WP:CITEHOW. Formatting the refs can be found at WP:CIT. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 23:48, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
I strongly disagree with your draftifying of the above. Whatever happened to cn tags on content you feel needs to be proven? I've seen literally hundreds of articles where the sole reference (not footnotes, just a general 'you'll find it in here' vague pointer) is some textbook which can't be verified online. This article has footnotes for Web content, general reading and links to wikis on the guy in multiple languages, so I'm struggling to see what you find so suspicious about the content that it needs removed from mainspace without an attempt to engage with the author/other involved editors or to flag up the issues on the page first. Crowsus (talk) 02:24, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- Crowsus, well, since you disagree with it, I'll move it back into mainspace, and then remove all uncited material. Onel5969 TT me 02:30, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi Onel5969, I hope you're doing well! I saw that you reinstated the redirect I removed from Trinchero Family Estates (to Sutter Home Winery). May we discuss that? Trinchero Family Estates should have its own Wikipedia page. I'm happy to help build out the page with your direction. Please let me know the next steps. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucy456 (talk • contribs) 18:59, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- Lucy456, hi. First, my apologies for not giving a fuller explanation in the edit summary. I usually do. That being said, Murgh was spot on in their assessment on their talk page as to why I restored the revert. If you wish to work on creating a page, might I suggest I move the redirect into draftspace, where you can work on developing the article. Learning the entire MOS (Manual of Style) can be daunting, so you can learn from looking at the structure of other winery articles. The Sutter Home Winery is a nice little article, and wouldn't be a bad place to start. But since this is about the parent company, an article like KEO (company) might be better. Remember that an article must be written without a point of view WP:NPOV, and that any assertion you include in the article should be backed up by a valid reference. References should be from independent sources where possible, but sometimes when writing about a company, the only source for certain information will be the company's website. That's okay to use for validation purposes. I'll be more than happy to help you as you go along, and give advice when you ask for it. Hope this helps, and if you want, I'll move that to draft for you. Onel5969 TT me 20:10, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- Onel5969Thank you! I like contributing to the content but yes, it can be daunting. I would like to take you up on the offer to move the redirect into draftspace while I work on the article. And I will definitely take you up on the offer to help. Thank you for the pointers! Please let me know next steps.
- Lucy456 - it's been moved to draft. The first thing I would do is structure the article. Figure out what the different sections will be. Then start to fill it in, using referenced material. As you go along, shoot me a message to take a look, and I'll let you know what I think. Onel5969 TT me 01:13, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Lucy456 - I guess it would help you if I provided the link to the draft, wouldn't it: Draft:Trinchero Family Estates.Onel5969 TT me 14:01, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Lucy456 - it's been moved to draft. The first thing I would do is structure the article. Figure out what the different sections will be. Then start to fill it in, using referenced material. As you go along, shoot me a message to take a look, and I'll let you know what I think. Onel5969 TT me 01:13, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Delhi dialect
Hi Onel5966! Look at this: Hindavi dialect. This page was created only a few minutes after you had reverted Delhi dialect back to a redirect. Looks like a slightly modified clone of the earlier version, and also of Old Hindi. –Austronesier (talk) 12:08, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Austronesier, hmmm... interesting. It's not an exact dupe, but very similar. Seems like that editor is trying to push a viewpoint. This isn't an area where I have a great deal of expertise, am pinging Uanfala, who knows more about these topics. The reverting to the redirect was an easy call, since the term was used on the target of a long-standing article. This article appears to make the claim that this is a different variant, and doesn't mention Kauravi at all. Without knowledge of the other article and redirect, it would be difficult not to mark this new article as reviewed. However, without access to the underlying sources it is difficult to ascertain whether this truly is a different dialect, or simply a different name for the same dialect. Onel5969 TT me 12:21, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I don't know much about the history of the language. From what I see, there should, in principle, exist the possibility for separate articles about Kauravi (the broad regional dialect of the rural hinterland), and the earlier stage of the literary language that started developing in the city, but I'm not sure it makes sense to subdivide the coverage of the latter into tinier subtopics based mostly on what appear like differences in nomenclature. – Uanfala (talk) 12:51, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Things have gone faster than expected. The editor is an LTA, and has already been blocked. I have G5-ed the page. –Austronesier (talk) 13:47, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks to both Uanfala and Austronesier. Uanfala, I agree with your assessment, as well as feeling a separate article would have been unnecessary. Austronesier, thanks for G5'ing that article. I've also G5'd the category the sock created.Onel5969 TT me 14:00, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Things have gone faster than expected. The editor is an LTA, and has already been blocked. I have G5-ed the page. –Austronesier (talk) 13:47, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I don't know much about the history of the language. From what I see, there should, in principle, exist the possibility for separate articles about Kauravi (the broad regional dialect of the rural hinterland), and the earlier stage of the literary language that started developing in the city, but I'm not sure it makes sense to subdivide the coverage of the latter into tinier subtopics based mostly on what appear like differences in nomenclature. – Uanfala (talk) 12:51, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Tina Lee
How is it that the CEO one of the largest grocery chains in Canada is not notable?--Brett (talk) 15:07, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Brett, being accomplished is not the same as being notable. Especially when that accomplishment is handed to someone from their parents. In that stub article, there was no indication of notability. To show notability you need several references showing in-depth sourcing of the subject, from independent, reliable sources. The Financial Post article is nice, if you come up with 2-3 more like that, that would show notability. Onel5969 TT me 17:29, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Western Subanon language
Hi, These are different language varieties that are grouped under "Subanon." It is even the subject of an upcoming dissertation: [2] --WikiEditor50 (talk) 12:36, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- WikiEditor50, That's fine. But readers are better served by having them in the same article, since they are closely related. There is no valid reason to have two stubs. Onel5969 TT me 12:38, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- I see... But it seemed to be inappropriate to describe the phonology and information on only one variety in a general article that is supposed to give an overview of different Subanon varieties. Even the external links I believe are on Western Subanon. Many linguistic works distinguish between the other "Subanon" languages too. Couldn't the information in this dissertation be used to expand the article? Many thanks. --WikiEditor50 (talk) 12:44, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- WikiEditor50, You bring up good points. My issue is that I've seen so many language stubs, which make research that much more difficult. Onel5969 TT me 15:14, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I would imagine that generally, it's better if detailed content about a given language is provided in that language's dedicated article, rather than in an article about the bigger language group. Maybe Austronesier will have an opinion on whether Western Subanon language should be a separate article from Subanon language? – Uanfala (talk) 17:28, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Uanfala: I agree, detailed content like sound inventories of a specific language should not appear in the article about the higher-order grouping, but in the article for the language itself. However, a stub like Western Subanon language should have better sources than a dead link. I have added an archive link to the reference now, and more material for W. Subanon is available in this article in Oceanic Linguistics, so WikiEditor50 could re-execute the split with more info. Also, the "mother" page Subanon language should not simply be depleted of its content, but get some more information pertaining to the complete macro-language/micro-group; e.g. the Oceanic Linguistics article has a reconstruction of Proto-Subanen phonemes; more info could be taken from Jason Lobel's dissertation. –Austronesier (talk) 18:09, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I would imagine that generally, it's better if detailed content about a given language is provided in that language's dedicated article, rather than in an article about the bigger language group. Maybe Austronesier will have an opinion on whether Western Subanon language should be a separate article from Subanon language? – Uanfala (talk) 17:28, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- WikiEditor50, You bring up good points. My issue is that I've seen so many language stubs, which make research that much more difficult. Onel5969 TT me 15:14, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- I see... But it seemed to be inappropriate to describe the phonology and information on only one variety in a general article that is supposed to give an overview of different Subanon varieties. Even the external links I believe are on Western Subanon. Many linguistic works distinguish between the other "Subanon" languages too. Couldn't the information in this dissertation be used to expand the article? Many thanks. --WikiEditor50 (talk) 12:44, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
removing AFD from reviewed article
Hi, thank you very much for reviewing Amber Martinez, can you please remove the malformed AFD from the article?212.47.220.173 (talk) 10:13, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- There is nothing malformed about the AfD. Other than a sock made it. However, the consensus on the page is leaning towards deletion, so the tag should remain until consensus is reached. Onel5969 TT me 11:23, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Onel5969: Thank you for your response, the article now updated and more reliable sources added and also the user who set the AFD for the article now is blocked so his AFD request can be malformed, right? 212.47.220.173 (talk) 12:26, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, no. They should never have made it, however, now that it is under discussion, consensus should be reached before the discussion is closed. It would be one thing if the consensus was leaning towards keep, but it's not. Onel5969 TT me 12:28, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Onel5969: Ok, I tried to improve the article and adding the new source but someone removed that and protected the article, last 3 sources was from really rich source like (Youm7) but a user removed that, I not know what's her/his probelm.212.47.220.173 (talk) 15:56, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, no. They should never have made it, however, now that it is under discussion, consensus should be reached before the discussion is closed. It would be one thing if the consensus was leaning towards keep, but it's not. Onel5969 TT me 12:28, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Onel5969: Thank you for your response, the article now updated and more reliable sources added and also the user who set the AFD for the article now is blocked so his AFD request can be malformed, right? 212.47.220.173 (talk) 12:26, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Congratulations
Thank you for spotting and removing the copyvio in Phoenix (2020 TV series). Because the original was in Korean, it was a challenging copyvio to find, although such phrases as "daughter of a conglomerate" may have helped. I was rather shocked to see that the editor who introduced the copyvio had reviewer and rollback rights and wondered whether I should take any further action. What do you think? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:24, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Cwmhiraeth, hi. I'm of the view that an editor who evades the rules, especially major rules, should have very few tools. Especially not reviewer or autopatrolled. The most egregious offenses to me are sockpuppetry, copyvio issues, and UPE. That being said, folks make mistakes. I saw the discussion you had on their talk page (which was going to be my first suggestion), but I don't think it shows a proper understanding of Copyvio. Hell, many times I'm not sure, but I try to err on the side of caution, without overwhelming folks like you who do the grunt work of actually doing the revdel. I'd be more concerned if they had autopatrolled rights. I've reviewed several of their articles, and this is the first one I can remember which had a copyvio, so I don't think it's a problem at the moment. Their logs don't appear to show any activity as a reviewer or patroller, but their apparent lack of understanding of copyvio would be an issue if they decided to start actually reviewing/patrolling. I don't think removing the patrol rights would do any harm, and might be a good precautionary measure. Onel5969 TT me 12:05, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Theme of Bulgaria and Byzantine Bulgaria
Hi Onel5969, that are two separate entities. The theme of Bulgaria was a single Byzantine province, while Byzantine Bulgaria encompassed parts from different provinces. It would be better to keep two separate topics. Regards. Jingiby (talk) 16:30, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Jingiby, hi. There's nothing in the Byzantine article to suggest it has anything to do with more than that contained in the Theme article. If there is sourced information showing that the Byzantine designation is more than the current Theme than that should be added, and a specific delineation pointed out. Without that, they are simply duplicate articles. Onel5969 TT me 18:24, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- User:onel5969, without going into details, the situation is a little more complicated and there are also two separate articles on the Bulgarian Wikipedia. Jingiby (talk) 18:42, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Pinging John B123, Pichpich, and Elmidae, all who have touched the page to make them aware of these comments.Onel5969 TT me 23:33, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Jingiby: I can only judge based on the comparative content of the two articles, and the current overlap is well beyond what we would normally consider acceptable. If these are related but separate concepts, then that needs to be reflected by related but separate article contents - not 75% duplication. That's what summaries and wikilinks are for. If you, as someone with subject knowledge, could apply this trimming, it would certainly be appreciated. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 23:49, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- There's certainly nothing in either article (prior to merging) to indicate the differences detailed above. Also there is nothing in History of Bulgaria about this difference, in fact the section Byzantine rule (1018–1185), has a map File:Byzantine Macedonia 1045CE.svg showing "Bulgaria" as a much smaller area than the current country. To confuse things further, one of the maps on Bulgaria (theme), File:Byzantine Empire Themes 1025-en.svg, shows the larger area as "Bulgaria" and the smaller area as "Boulgaria" (with an "o"). Whilst there may be justification for separate articles, this justification needs to be obvious in both articles and also in History of Bulgaria#Byzantine rule (1018–1185). --John B123 (talk) 00:06, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi everybody. The problem is that the province of Bulgaria overlapped only this territory of the Kingdom of Bulgaria, which was finally conquered by Byzantium. Consequently, this province had its own life, while the whole territory of the former Kingdom of Bulgaria included also other Byzantine provinces. They had its own life as for example Macedonia and Paristrion. So there are two options. Either the life of the Bulgarians in these other provinces should be described in the single article about the province called Bulgaria, or the separate article about Byzantine Bulgaria as an imagined entity, encompassing several Byzantine provinces should be left here. Look also at the map above, please. Jingiby (talk) 04:33, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- There's certainly nothing in either article (prior to merging) to indicate the differences detailed above. Also there is nothing in History of Bulgaria about this difference, in fact the section Byzantine rule (1018–1185), has a map File:Byzantine Macedonia 1045CE.svg showing "Bulgaria" as a much smaller area than the current country. To confuse things further, one of the maps on Bulgaria (theme), File:Byzantine Empire Themes 1025-en.svg, shows the larger area as "Bulgaria" and the smaller area as "Boulgaria" (with an "o"). Whilst there may be justification for separate articles, this justification needs to be obvious in both articles and also in History of Bulgaria#Byzantine rule (1018–1185). --John B123 (talk) 00:06, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Jingiby: I can only judge based on the comparative content of the two articles, and the current overlap is well beyond what we would normally consider acceptable. If these are related but separate concepts, then that needs to be reflected by related but separate article contents - not 75% duplication. That's what summaries and wikilinks are for. If you, as someone with subject knowledge, could apply this trimming, it would certainly be appreciated. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 23:49, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Pinging John B123, Pichpich, and Elmidae, all who have touched the page to make them aware of these comments.Onel5969 TT me 23:33, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- User:onel5969, without going into details, the situation is a little more complicated and there are also two separate articles on the Bulgarian Wikipedia. Jingiby (talk) 18:42, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
I've added citations to the article, I was actually searching for sources still when you added it, I was surprised. Could you please check the article again and let me know if it needs sources or do I still need to search. I look forward to hearing from you. Coryphantha Talk 21:41, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Coryphantha, nice job! I've removed the tag. Be aware that if you see a tag and fix the problem, whether or not you created the article, you can remove the tag yourself. Most editors keep watch over pages they have tagged, and if they don't think the problem has been resolved, will re-add the tag and comment. Keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 23:12, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- I wasn't sure if I dared removed them or not, I'm never really sure when enough is enough so I keep going. I'm still new at knowing how much is a good amount. Thank you for the kind comments. :) Coryphantha Talk 22:00, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Coryphantha, no worries. Never hurts to ask. Just wanted to let you know that if you feel you've covered the bases in fixing a tag on a page, feel free to remove it. Regardless of what the tag is. Often, I'll review an article that another reviewer has tagged with notability concerns. And vice versa. Happy editing. Onel5969 TT me 23:42, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you so much! :) Coryphantha Talk 00:32, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- Coryphantha, no worries. Never hurts to ask. Just wanted to let you know that if you feel you've covered the bases in fixing a tag on a page, feel free to remove it. Regardless of what the tag is. Often, I'll review an article that another reviewer has tagged with notability concerns. And vice versa. Happy editing. Onel5969 TT me 23:42, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- I wasn't sure if I dared removed them or not, I'm never really sure when enough is enough so I keep going. I'm still new at knowing how much is a good amount. Thank you for the kind comments. :) Coryphantha Talk 22:00, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Deleted articles
Why did you delete almost all my articles? They were cited if you do your research. They existed not made believe i spent ages researching and compiling then you just deleted them or wiped them with redirects. Really no need to have RailwayJG (talk) 01:57, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- RailwayJG, hi. First, it's always polite to provide links to the articles you're questioning about. Second, the 2 stubs I redirected (not deleted) to their railways had ZERO citations, so not sure what you are talking about. The poorly sourced, and poorly formatted 3 stubs I reviewed are still there. So really no need for you to have left this message. Onel5969 TT me 02:26, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
So if I provide sources for them and they are good enough to pass the citations needed. I can get rid of the redirect? Cheers RailwayJG (talk) 02:29 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Moyles Court School
Hi there, How do I make it Notable? I feel there are many many other pages less notable that this one. There are references to websites aside from the school's own. Thanks in advance for your help, Tim
- Hi Tim. First, it's always polite to leave a wikilink to the article you're talking about when leaving a comment on an editor's talkpage, like this: Moyles Court School. Second, please remember to 'sign' your comments with 4 tildes, like this: ~~~~. That will allow the editor to know who they are communicating with. Now, to show notability you need several sources which go in-depth about the school, as opposed to mere mentions are simple blurbs. These should be from outside sources, not school websites or publications. In addition, they should also include in-depth articles from non-local sources, for example if the article was from a Cardiff or London paper. See WP:GNG and WP:ORG for the entire rundown of guidelines. If you want to work on the article, I can move it into draft for you, and then take a look at it after you've done some work on it, or answer questions for you. Let me know.Onel5969 TT me 23:29, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Onel, thanks - Its been a long time since I edited Wikipedia pages! If you would be able to move the Moyles Court School page into drafts for me, I would appreciate it - thanks. I’ll see what I can find, but it’s tricky as it’s a small school. It’s very old fashioned so doesn’t have a big online presence, but I’m trying to change that! Thanks for all your assistance... Timstickley (talk) 18:22, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Timstickley, had to move it to User:Timstickley/Sandbox Moyles Court School, since you had created a draft prior to this, and that redirect is blocking me moving it there. But this will allow you to work on it. Onel5969 TT me 18:57, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi again Onel! I’ve added a load of content and references to webpages that do not belong to the school. Do you think it could be considered to be notable yet? Thanks, Tim Timstickley (talk) 09:53, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- Timstickley, I think it's getting there. Schools, for purposes of notability, fall under WP:NORG, and specificaly, WP:ORGDEPTH. All the independent sourcing is of the local variety. If you notice above, I said that some of the sourcing should be from non-local sourcing. ln one of the articles it mentioned that the school had been ranked in the top 50 by The Sunday Times. Not sure which Sunday Times, but if you could find that, it would help. In my opinion the only thing missing is those two in-depth pieces from non-local sources. Even one would most likely put you over the edge. But you're doing a wonderful job so far. Onel5969 TT me 12:19, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi again onel5959, thanks for all your advice. Do you think it would be considered notable yet? I’ve added some references from non-local sources... if you think it’s ok, would you be able to move it to its own page please? Thanks, Timstickley (talk) 23:22, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
- Timstickley, You're doing very good work on the article. I personally still wouldn't mark it "reviewed", as I still think it needs one or two more in-depth articles from non-local sources. I did a cursory search myself, and didn't see the type of coverage that would put it over the edge myself. However, another reviewer might see it differently. If you would like I'll move it back to the mainspace and put it back into the review queue for another reviewer to take a crack at. Onel5969 TT me 16:15, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
- onel5969, I have plenty of other non local references (aside from the ISI, ISC, BBC, ISBI and BSA ones in the article) I could use but they are all in physical books sadly! If you are able to move it to the mainspace for another reviewer to have a crack at, I would really appreciate it, thank you! And thanks for all your advice along the way! Timstickley (talk) 11:36, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
- Timstickley, will move it, but remember, sources do not have to be online. When using sources which can't be accessed online, please give as much information as possible, see WP:CIT about what information should be included. Keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 13:17, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
- onel5969, I have plenty of other non local references (aside from the ISI, ISC, BBC, ISBI and BSA ones in the article) I could use but they are all in physical books sadly! If you are able to move it to the mainspace for another reviewer to have a crack at, I would really appreciate it, thank you! And thanks for all your advice along the way! Timstickley (talk) 11:36, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
- Timstickley, You're doing very good work on the article. I personally still wouldn't mark it "reviewed", as I still think it needs one or two more in-depth articles from non-local sources. I did a cursory search myself, and didn't see the type of coverage that would put it over the edge myself. However, another reviewer might see it differently. If you would like I'll move it back to the mainspace and put it back into the review queue for another reviewer to take a crack at. Onel5969 TT me 16:15, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
Long time no talk. Was wondering if you could share what you learned about Zanda Zakuza because from the text alone I'm not seeing something to indicate notability. But rather than duplicate work that you'd already done I figured I'd ask. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:51, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Barkeep49, yeah, long time. Hope all is well with you. Regarding this article, I felt the True Love article was more than a blurb (although not as in-depth as I'd normally prefer), then you have the 2 News24.com pieces, a year apart. Then you also have the Briefly article. In my mind, that passes GNG. Put another way, I've seen plenty of articles with less survive AfD. Okay? Onel5969 TT me 23:38, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Wait, your question wasn't about sourcing, but about the text. I actually don't look that much at the text if an article passes GNG (unless the subject interests me), or if there is a copyvio issue. You're right there, just looking at the text, it's a very poor article, and pretty poor representation of the artist, based on the information that's available about her online.Onel5969 TT me 23:40, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Your first response is actually what I was looking for; I was hooping to mooch on someone who had evaluated sources. Your having done so is helpful, thanks. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 00:09, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- Wait, your question wasn't about sourcing, but about the text. I actually don't look that much at the text if an article passes GNG (unless the subject interests me), or if there is a copyvio issue. You're right there, just looking at the text, it's a very poor article, and pretty poor representation of the artist, based on the information that's available about her online.Onel5969 TT me 23:40, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
DECARLO Page
Please restore the DECARLO Band page. I am working with the lead guitarist to expand the Wikipedia page. This is a totally different page than his dad Tommy DeCarlo. Matt8063 (talk) 04:15, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Iowa Dogfish page review
Hello, I saw that you reviewed the Iowa Dogfish page. After your review the page no longer appears to exist and references to the page circle back to the league page (Interstate Box Lacrosse Association). I'm wondering why the Iowa Dogfish page no longer appears? ThatWikiAl (talk) 21:30, 17 November 2020 (UTC)ThatWikiAl
- ThatWikiAl, as a non-professional lacrosse team, it needs to pass WP:GNG, so it was turned into a redirect. Onel5969 TT me 20:35, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- I don't understand why it wouldn't pass the general notability guidelines. The IBLA is the American counterpart to Canada's Major Series Lacrosse and Western Lacrosse Association. They are all leagues that play at the Senior-A (highest) level of semi-professional lacrosse. Teams in both of those other leagues have their own wikipedia pages. And junior hockey along with a whole host of other junior level and senior level sports teams have pages. This team exists, has played one full season, is going to continue operating, and they are notable as the first senior level and only box lacrosse team in the state of Iowa. So what do I need to do to bring this page back? ThatWikiAl (talk) 03:21, 23 November 2020 (UTC)ThatWikiAl
Roger A. Weir - proposed deletion
Hello - I have removed the proposed deletion tag from the entry for Roger A. Weir because the article contains multiple citations which provide sufficient and necessary evidence of how the subject of this entry meets the General Notability Guideline. Thank you for your attention to this entry. Your action has been a call to action for me to improve the article further, which is another reason why I have removed your proposed deletion tag. Lavenderearlgrey (talk) 02:07, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi - how do I go about moving the entry for Roger A. Weir to my user account and removing from the Main wiki? I concede that this entry does not meet the GNG requirements. Lavenderearlgrey (talk) 16:49, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Lavenderearlgrey, hi. Since it's at AfD, the discussion has to run it's course. Once it does, if the result is delete, it will be. There's nothing you have to do. Onel5969 TT me 16:52, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Will it be 'userfied'? Lavenderearlgrey (talk) 16:52, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Lavenderearlgrey, hi. Since it's at AfD, the discussion has to run it's course. Once it does, if the result is delete, it will be. There's nothing you have to do. Onel5969 TT me 16:52, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi - how do I go about moving the entry for Roger A. Weir to my user account and removing from the Main wiki? I concede that this entry does not meet the GNG requirements. Lavenderearlgrey (talk) 16:49, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Can I ask why I added Plastique (comics) to the queue? I'm not seeing anything that would suggest it has been changed in a way that needed review but maybe I'm missing something. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 20:27, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- Barkeep49, hi, and of course you can always ask. It was prodded by Template:UPiotrus, and then the prod was removed. Not sure why it wasn't automatically re-added to the queue, as I checked the logs, and no reviewer had reviewed it. Onel5969 TT me 20:33, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- Because the page in its modern form was created in 2012 according to my read of the history. I'm going to go ahead and mark it reviewed, without prejudice or comment about its notability. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 20:36, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- Barkeep49, wow. I missed that. I only looked at the prod... thanks for catching it. Onel5969 TT me 20:37, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- It's why NPP is a team effort. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 20:38, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- Barkeep49, wow. I missed that. I only looked at the prod... thanks for catching it. Onel5969 TT me 20:37, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- Because the page in its modern form was created in 2012 according to my read of the history. I'm going to go ahead and mark it reviewed, without prejudice or comment about its notability. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 20:36, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
First Nagorno-Karabakh war
Hello, thanks for your help in disambiguating. Could you change the link to [[First Nagorno-Karabakh War]] rather than [[First Nagorno-Karabakh War|Nagorno-Karabakh war]]? — CuriousGolden (T·C) 13:46, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- CuriousGolden, Sure. what page? Onel5969 TT me 13:56, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Or do you mean on all pages, like what I just did on Edilli?Onel5969 TT me 13:58, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, I meant that when disambiguating, it'd be better to change it to First Nagorno-Karabakh war directly. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 13:59, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- CuriousGolden, Okay, I can do that. A bit more work, but I see the good of it. Onel5969 TT me 14:00, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! — CuriousGolden (T·C) 14:01, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- CuriousGolden, Okay, I can do that. A bit more work, but I see the good of it. Onel5969 TT me 14:00, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, I meant that when disambiguating, it'd be better to change it to First Nagorno-Karabakh war directly. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 13:59, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Or do you mean on all pages, like what I just did on Edilli?Onel5969 TT me 13:58, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
I am NOT a sock
I am NOT the sock Brnodam....after reading the sockpuppet investigation against this 'eternal' sock, what wonder me is the "hate" against this sock by this one1959 and others...hate that seems all based on nationalistic/ethnic HATE against Italy & Italians. I am an italian-american who lives in Boca Raton like him and if he reads this, please contact me at my IP. I belong to the Order Sons of Italy in America. Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:58C:C080:8AA0:18E7:2F53:11E3:D6C5 (talk) 15:06, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- That's not what the SPI uncovered. Oops.Onel5969 TT me 12:20, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
List of Drifters characters
I want to know what part of that page was copyrighted because it was copied and moved from the main page and I even left a link in the talk page of where it can from. SpectresWrath (talk) 16:07, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- SpectresWrath, virtually all of it, from several sources, if I remember correctly. Not sure what you mean, by "moved from the main page", since I doubt a list of minor characters appeared on Wikipedia's main page. Do you mean you split it off from the main Drifters' article? If so, you didn't say that in the attribution, which is required. If that is the case, you might ask the admin who actually deleted the article if that is the case. Onel5969 TT me 11:46, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
FWIW, I've blocked the article mover as a sock of the article creator who was told that as a declared COI editor he must wait for review Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:59, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
- Jimfbleak, Thanks. I just opened a sock investigation, as there might be other connections to other now blocked socks. Onel5969 TT me 15:02, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Page Marked for Speedy Deletion, Streetsound
Hi there you marked my page entry Streetsound for speedy deletion (it was just approved yesterday) - i am also the publisher of the site referenced for copywrite infringement.. I had posted the article on my site since it looked like my article was never going to be approved. I have now updated the streetsound magazine site to point to the wiki history. I'm hopeful you can speedly restore my entry. thanks for the consideration https://streetsoundmagzine.com/history thanks Chris Chris Torella Ctorella 19:11, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- Ctorella, hi. I see that you've left a message on Jimfbleak's talk page, so they will look into it. There is a way to give up a copyright to WP, but I'm not sure what you have done will suffice. Also keep in mind, that WP is not an advertising site. Onel5969 TT me 19:54, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi yup looks like i can file a copyright over to WP - thanks for getting back, totally appreciate that WP is not an advertising site - it was always my intension to make an interesting contribution to the WP universe in an area i had specific knowledge.. thanks again Chris Chris Torella Ctorella 22:42, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- Ctorella, no worries. I knew there was a way, just not conversant enough in it to point you in the right direction. Glad you found help. Onel5969 TT me 22:55, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
Yorkton Film Festival Golden Sheaf Award - Kathleen Shannon
Hello Onel5969, I see that you reviewed the article Yorkton Film Festival Golden Sheaf Award - Kathleen Shannon - and I appreciate that - however, the link now redirects to the Yorkton Film Festival page. Where did the Yorkton Film Festival Golden Sheaf Award - Kathleen Shannon article go to? Thanks, LorriBrown (talk)
- Hi LorriBrown - in my opinion while the overall award meets notability criteria, the individual awards do not appear to, so I redirected it to the main award article. But I'm just one reviewer, and not at all infallible. My issue with it is that all the sourcing regarding this particular award was local and/or not in-depth enough. If you disagree with my assessment, feel free to revert me. I'll probably take it to AfD, so other editors can have a discussion about it. Other folks may look at it differently than I do. On the other hand, it was a well-written and formatted piece, so keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 23:02, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hello again Onel5969. I understand that this particular award only reflects a couple of years worth of awards. I've been systematically working my way through various awards' pages for the Yorkton Film Festival. Originally, I rescued the YFF page from deletion but then decided to create award pages for each of the Golden Sheaf categories, I hadn't attempted this before. I understand that the Kathleen Shannon article does not have many award years or really strong sources. The newer award years are not as strongly supported by newspaper articles as in previous years - not sure why this has not been as strong of priority as in earlier years. This was a personal goal as I was hopeful to give representation to all the filmmakers that won these Golden Sheaf awards. I do believe there may be addition years for this award... but under slightly different titles as well as information on this person was (Kathleen Shannon) and why YFF named an award after them. I've tried to accommodate this with other awards by noting the variations of the name before the title, example. Yorkton Film Festival Golden Sheaf Award - Multicultural; anyway, perhaps this is too much information. I have researched and unfortunately for the more current Golden Sheaf awards it has been difficult to find newspaper articles. If you can revert the article to a draft page - I will try to see if I can find additional years and stronger sources to address your concerns/opinion that the article does not meet the notability requirements for a stand alone page. If you are able to revert the article to a draft, could I request your opinion before attempting to re-post it? Thank you! LorriBrown (talk) P.S. Thank you also for your kind words... :-)
- Hi LorriBrown - moved to draft, and of course you can ask for help while you work on it. Onel5969 TT me 15:41, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hello again Onel5969. I understand that this particular award only reflects a couple of years worth of awards. I've been systematically working my way through various awards' pages for the Yorkton Film Festival. Originally, I rescued the YFF page from deletion but then decided to create award pages for each of the Golden Sheaf categories, I hadn't attempted this before. I understand that the Kathleen Shannon article does not have many award years or really strong sources. The newer award years are not as strongly supported by newspaper articles as in previous years - not sure why this has not been as strong of priority as in earlier years. This was a personal goal as I was hopeful to give representation to all the filmmakers that won these Golden Sheaf awards. I do believe there may be addition years for this award... but under slightly different titles as well as information on this person was (Kathleen Shannon) and why YFF named an award after them. I've tried to accommodate this with other awards by noting the variations of the name before the title, example. Yorkton Film Festival Golden Sheaf Award - Multicultural; anyway, perhaps this is too much information. I have researched and unfortunately for the more current Golden Sheaf awards it has been difficult to find newspaper articles. If you can revert the article to a draft page - I will try to see if I can find additional years and stronger sources to address your concerns/opinion that the article does not meet the notability requirements for a stand alone page. If you are able to revert the article to a draft, could I request your opinion before attempting to re-post it? Thank you! LorriBrown (talk) P.S. Thank you also for your kind words... :-)
Hello Onel5969, I believe the article is improved now. Hopefully I've addressed the concerns you had with the previous version. I do need the name changed to the Yorkton Film Festival - The Kathleen Shannon Award. Would you be able to explain how I can do that and would you mind taking a look and the improvements? Thank you! Best, LorriBrown (talk)
Nomination of Jérémy Lenaerts for deletion
The discussion will take place at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jérémy Lenaerts until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
To customise your preferences for automated AfD notifications for articles to which you've significantly contributed (or to opt-out entirely), please visit the configuration page. Delivered by SDZeroBot (talk) 01:03, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
Nomination of Cazador, Arizona for deletion
The discussion will take place at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cazador, Arizona until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
To customise your preferences for automated AfD notifications for articles to which you've significantly contributed (or to opt-out entirely), please visit the configuration page. Delivered by SDZeroBot (talk) 01:03, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
Nomination of Asher, Arizona for deletion
The discussion will take place at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Asher, Arizona until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
To customise your preferences for automated AfD notifications for articles to which you've significantly contributed (or to opt-out entirely), please visit the configuration page. Delivered by SDZeroBot (talk) 01:03, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello, this is about the page Aayush Sharma, which you've nominated for speedy deletion. I approved the article from AfC, because the reason for deletion no longer applies. Given that I approved the AfC, I thought it would be inappropriate for me to take the tag down myself, but I have written a message on the talk page contesting the deletion. Would you have a look, please? Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 16:43, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- Kohlrabi Pickle, hi. Still doesn't qualify for WP:NACTOR. Onel5969 TT me 17:22, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- Even if that is true, the process for removal is an AfD where a discussion can be had, not a speedy delete. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 17:34, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- A discussion was already had, that's why WP:G4 exists. Praxidicae (talk) 17:37, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- Praxidicae, WP:G4 expressly excludes pages to which the reason for the deletion no longer applies, like this one. The article failed the last deletion discussion because the subject had not been in any productions and therefore had no hope of passing the specific notability guideline for actors. He has now been in two productions. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 17:52, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- So, in your powers as AFC reviewer, how is it different from the previously deleted version? Praxidicae (talk) 17:55, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- Praxidicae, I am happy to explain my judgment, but that is a separate matter from whether the G4 tag is appropriate. We can talk about it on the article's talk page or on mine. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 18:01, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- So, in your powers as AFC reviewer, how is it different from the previously deleted version? Praxidicae (talk) 17:55, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- Praxidicae, WP:G4 expressly excludes pages to which the reason for the deletion no longer applies, like this one. The article failed the last deletion discussion because the subject had not been in any productions and therefore had no hope of passing the specific notability guideline for actors. He has now been in two productions. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 17:52, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- A discussion was already had, that's why WP:G4 exists. Praxidicae (talk) 17:37, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- Even if that is true, the process for removal is an AfD where a discussion can be had, not a speedy delete. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 17:34, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello! Hope this message finds you well! Thank you for contributing to my page's content Victor P. Tsilonis. I really appreciate it! I am a user with several editing contributions but this is my first attempt to create a page. I realised that you have added two labels on my page, one related to additional citations for verification and another related to bare URL links. Upon reading the relevant guidelines, I must say I feel a little bit confused as to which parts of the page those labels refer to. I would much welcome your insights on this issue! If you could provide me with a few examples as well it would be rather helpful. In any case, I will make some improvements based on your remarks! I would like to thank you in advance for your time considering this! Have a lovely day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agnostosnous (talk • contribs) 16:55, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- Agnostosnous, hi. First, bare links are links to off-WP pages which are simply bare, or not formatted so as to reduce WP:LINKROT. In this case, it has to do with your footnotes. I corrected most of them, but there is still one, #6, which needs to be formatted properly. You can find out regarding the format at WP:CIT. Second, since this is a BLP (bio of a living person), almost any assertion should be sourced. Right now, sections 2.2, 2.4, 2.5 as well as the early life section are totally unsourced. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 17:26, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- {{u|Onel5969}, Hello again! Thank you very much for your kind response! It is much clearer now! I will work on your guidelines and the particular sections that you mentioned which indeed are unsourced. Please get back to me if more things need to be changed! Thank you very much! Have a nice day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agnostosnous (talk • contribs) 17:42, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
Nomination of Tyson, Arizona for deletion
The discussion will take place at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tyson, Arizona until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
To customise your preferences for automated AfD notifications for articles to which you've significantly contributed (or to opt-out entirely), please visit the configuration page. Delivered by SDZeroBot (talk) 01:04, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Nomination of Colfred, Arizona for deletion
The discussion will take place at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Colfred, Arizona until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
To customise your preferences for automated AfD notifications for articles to which you've significantly contributed (or to opt-out entirely), please visit the configuration page. Delivered by SDZeroBot (talk) 01:04, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Nomination of Chiricahua, Arizona for deletion
The discussion will take place at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chiricahua, Arizona (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
To customise your preferences for automated AfD notifications for articles to which you've significantly contributed (or to opt-out entirely), please visit the configuration page. Delivered by SDZeroBot (talk) 01:04, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Hyainailourus
Hyainailourus needs to be retitled Hyainailouros as that is the spelling used on ZooBank and various scientific papers. -User:1morey November 23, 2010 11:35 AM (EST)
I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
tag from Suesat Paeminburi, which you proposed for deletion. Since this article that I wrote has been nominated for deletion, I'm writing this to plead my case on why the article should not be deleted.
Suesat Paeminburi is one of the best Bantamweights in Muay Thai and has been for a long time, but despite this, due to multiple reasons including the politics of the sport, Suesat has never been given a shot at either the Lumpinee or Rajadamnern Stadium title (since he is a Kiatpetch circuit fighter, he is only eligible for the Thailand (PAT), Channel 7 Stadium and Lumpinee Stadium titles). Nevertheless, Suesat has won the prestigious Grakcu tournament in 2017 and recently won the Channel 7 Stadium title at 118lbs. The Channel 7 title, though not as coveted as a Lumpinee title due to it not having the same level of history behind it, is very respected and much more valuable than a WBC Muay Thai or WMC title.
The reason I bring up the WBC Muay Thai and WMC titles is that, in Notability (sports), it is written: "A kickboxing athlete is presumed notable if they:/ Fought for a world title of a major organization or promotion (K-1, WMC, [...], WBC Muaythai, [...])." Frankly speaking and with all due respect, the criteria for notability in both Kickboxing and Muay Thai are in dire need of an update. The "It's Showtime" promotion has been defunct since 2013 and it is still a part of the list. The RISE Kickboxing title, despite being one of the most coveted titles for under 65kg fighters is not on the list. Major Muay Thai belts like the True4u title, the WMO title, the Channel 7 Stadium title, and the Thailand (PAT) title all deserve a spot on the Muay Thai/Kickboxing Notability criteria. In fact, Muay Thai and Kickboxing should both be in their own category. Aside from both being standup sports, each has its own very distinct ruleset.
Thank you for reading. I hope the moderator who reads this reconsider and take away the deletion notice.. Instead, I have started a deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Example, which you may comment on. I have explained my reasons for doing so there. Thanks!
PhanKS1505 (talk) 17:02, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
- PhanKS1505, I understand your thoughts, and thanks for the civil response. Might I suggest that you bring up changing the SN guidelines at WP:NMMA? Without that change, it will be difficult to keep this article on WP. Onel5969 TT me 18:00, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
Origins, Vol. 2
Do you think that Origins, Vol. 2 is ready for article space? At this time, it does seem borderline. --Jax 0677 (talk) 23:59, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
- Jax 0677, not in my opinion. That's why I restored a redirect once or twice. Onel5969 TT me 01:27, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
- Reply - If you want to nominate it for AFD, be my guest. --Jax 0677 (talk) 02:33, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Okay to just move article?
Hi Onel5969, Would it be okay with you that I just remove the tag and move the draft of Kathleen Shannon Award to an article? Thank you, LorriBrown (talk)
Flowers and cake as my gratitude
Thanks a million Sir/Ma'am for the reviews that you gave for biographical articles Zeeshan Khan and Aparna Mishra. It took a lot of efforts for me to create these two articles, keeping in mind and taking care of every Wikipedia guidelines. Though, these two articles are nominated for deletion and will most likely get deleted, the reviews that you gave for these two articles is the BEST GIFT, that I got for the efforts put into these articles.
Now, I really don't mind if the articles Zeeshan Khan and Aparna Mishra are deleted and gone forever, because you already made me very happy by reviewing them.
Your reviews really means a lot and these flowers and cake are the least I could give in return. Once again, thanks a lot Sir/Madam
--Aleyamma38 (talk) 09:03, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Dashes in List of equipment of the British Army
Sorry, but I had to manually revert the page List of equipment of the British Army to an earlier version due to multiple unsourced edits by another user. I was able to include some of your changes, but unfortunately couldn't restore your changes to the dashes. --Edward Sandstig (talk) 17:24, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
- Sandstig, no worries. It's a script, so it's very easy to replicate. Thanks for the notice. Onel5969 TT me 17:27, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello,
I’m not sure how to start with your undoing to the material I moved from Bamboo musical instruments to Bamboo flute. You said "uncited," by which I gather you meant unreferenced? That would be fair enough to put a tag on, for I’m not planning to leave it that way. Bamboo flute is a major category of musical instruments, which has been neglected on Wikipedia, just as other non-western instruments made of bamboo, such as raft zither and tube zither. I have begun to adress these and will also address bamboo flute. I an reverting back to my change. Please give me a week to get time to improve it. Thank you Jacqke (talk) 18:47, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
- Jacqke, sorry, but familiarize yourself with WP:BURDEN. Uncited material may be removed by anyone at anytime. Once, removed, it should not be re-added without references from independent reliable sources. Onel5969 TT me 18:53, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
- Sure, you can. And you could have given me the week I asked for. You did not assume my intention to be good...good faith. Jacqke (talk) 18:57, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
- Jacqke, I always AGF. That has nothing to do with this. When you're ready to work on the article, and put valid refs in, then do so. The appropriate place for working on articles in draftspace, not the mainspace. If you would like, I'll move your version into a draft, and then you can submit it through AfC for review? Onel5969 TT me 18:59, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
- Never mind. I was cleaning it up from elsewhere and giving it a home. I’ll fixit when In not working. Thank you for the offer.Jacqke (talk) 19:04, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
- Jacqke, I always AGF. That has nothing to do with this. When you're ready to work on the article, and put valid refs in, then do so. The appropriate place for working on articles in draftspace, not the mainspace. If you would like, I'll move your version into a draft, and then you can submit it through AfC for review? Onel5969 TT me 18:59, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
- Sure, you can. And you could have given me the week I asked for. You did not assume my intention to be good...good faith. Jacqke (talk) 18:57, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi Onel5969, your opinion would be welcome at WP:AN#Haleth_and_Jiren_related. :) Thanks and best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:44, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
- ToBeFree, thanks for the ping. Onel5969 TT me 12:37, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
orphan tags on Negro league articles
Hi Onel5969, I'm confused as to why you tagged 6 articles as orphans: Buck Ridgley, Eugene Redd, Rags Roberts, James D. Robinson (baseball), Herlen Ragland and Elihu Roberts. They are linked to by List of Negro league baseball players (M–R). Can you explain? Thanks, JonP125 (talk) 02:58, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
- JonP125, hi, and again, nice job on all these Negro League bios you've been putting up. That's an automatic report generated through the page curation process. Apparently it hadn't updated when I reviewed your articles. Please feel free to remove those tags. Onel5969 TT me 12:37, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, sounds good, and by the way, thanks for the Barnstar! JonP125 (talk) 13:02, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Tambura
Hi. Just FYI, rather than the Balkan instrument, the correct target article for an Indian tambura is Tanpura. JG66 (talk) 16:09, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
- JG66, thanks. Which page was that on? Onel5969 TT me 16:23, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
- Wonderwall Music – it's okay, I fixed it. Just thought you might be moving through other articles containing the word. JG66 (talk) 16:26, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
- JG66, hi thanks for the link. Yeah, when I go through the dabs needing repair I always AGF, and point to the original target. In this case, when that was added to the article (prior to September 2020), the redirect pointed to the Balkan instrument.Onel5969 TT me 16:40, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
- Wonderwall Music – it's okay, I fixed it. Just thought you might be moving through other articles containing the word. JG66 (talk) 16:26, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Thank You!
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar | ||
Onel5969 , Thank you for reviewing the YFF Golden Sheaf Award articles for Lifestyle, Multicultural, as well as The Founders' Award. LorriBrown (talk) 16:59, 30 November 2020 (UTC) |
A barnstar for you!
The Barnstar of Diligence | |
Thank you for your disambiguation work. --evrik (talk) 18:13, 1 December 2020 (UTC) |
Speedy deletion declined: DXFL
Hello Onel5969. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of DXFL, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Sufficiently different from the previous version, there's many more sources than there were. It's enough for CSD, no comment on the GNG, that will need to be assessed at AfD if necessary. Thank you. GedUK 10:26, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Gary Schwartz (actor)
Hello Onel5969. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Gary Schwartz (actor), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: There's better sourcing now than the previous version that are about the subject. Needs to go back to AfD if required. Thank you. GedUK 10:30, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ged UK, Thanks (for both). Onel5969 TT me 14:10, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Northern Canada Power Commission
Hi, I reverted the edit you made at Northern Canada Power Commission which turned it back into a redirect to Northwest Territories Power Corporation. Based on what I had found NCPC was a separate federal entity that was then carved up and transferred to territorial jurisdiction into what is now Yukon Energy and NTPC. If you still disagree then I'm interested to hear your side and I can try to find a solution. Cheers, RA0808 talkcontribs 00:17, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Deleting HP Spectre stub
Hello! Sorry for talking about this, but can You warn users before purging stub articles? Just because the current way with instant cleaning is not polite, I think. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 03:37, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
- ThisIsNotABetter, sorry, no. It's not necessary. What is not polite is wasting other editor's time by publishing poorly cited and substandard articles. It helps to familiarize yourself with notability criteria as per WP:GNG, as well as citing references which can be found at WP:CITE and WP:CIT. Onel5969 TT me 14:10, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for answer! Citing is important, I clearly know this, and You can see my previous works with adequate citelist (I have a few of created and rewrited articles and some amount of draft pages). You can help me with some pages like these or these drafts, or with rewriting VoodooPC-related pages (or not, but please, wipe the unsourced content only after removing "stub" template, please!) =\ ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 14:36, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi! I noticed you reverted my edit with the message "does not meet wp:nbook". I investigated, and I disagreed with your assessment. If you look at the Criteria section, this book has been reviewed in notable sites, such as Den of Geek, The Verge, and Cnet.com. I reverted your edit because I believe that the book does meet the necessary criteria. I'll watch this page for any messages you might leave. Thanks! Dswitz10734 (talk) 14:02, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
- Dswitz10734, Sorry, but reviews have to be in-depth and from reliable sources. While those sites are not unreliable, they are fringe sources which often rely on book advertising for their existence. Therefore it doesn't qualify under nbooks. Onel5969 TT me 14:08, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi, it's pretty clear this should be a standalone page and having reviewed the Mohun Bagan A.C. and ATK Mohun Bagan FC talk pages I'm not exactly sure what consensus you're pointing to in order to restore the redirect? To me it looks like there was an opposed move, since there is a need for a new article as opposed to an article name change. SportingFlyer T·C 20:27, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
- SportingFlyer, Talk:Mohun Bagan A.C.#Requested move 23 September 2020 Onel5969 TT me 20:29, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
- That discussion doesn't preclude the new page from being created, though, and the move discussion before that closed with
If editors prefer to have a separate article solely and specifically on the football team as currently structured, I would suggest creating a draft for a proposed subtopic split
, which is what we have here (and is supported by the references on the talk page.) The two discussions just means that there is no consensus to move Mohun Bagan to ATK Mohun Bagan, not that there's no consensus to create a new topic. I do admit the whole thing is a mess. SportingFlyer T·C 20:53, 3 December 2020 (UTC) - Oh, I figured it out - it's here: Talk:Mohun_Bagan_A.C./Archive_2#Requested_move_3_September_2020. SportingFlyer T·C 21:13, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
- That discussion doesn't preclude the new page from being created, though, and the move discussion before that closed with
Removing UW EngSoc Page
Hi, first off sorry for wasting your time with the first two big edits. But now I wanted to know why the sources I added are considered too closely related. I was basing this page off of UOIT Engineering Students' Society, who also has sources which are either the society's website or the school's/town's newspapers/blogs. It seems like they're both constructed the same way, so it's not an outlier in presentation. UW EngSoc Page Main Editor, 02:33, 4 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.49.149.67 (talk)
- That's an WP:OSE argument, which isn't a valid argument. Just because an article exists on Wikipedia does not mean it is necessarily a good model to base a new article on. Wikipedia is monitored by volunteers, so it's not unusual for an inappropriate article to slip through the cracks. But you're right, that other page should most likely be deleted as well. Onel5969 TT me 12:47, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, so what if I edited the page and trimmed down its content so that it ONLY relied on references which aren't directly published by the University of Waterloo Engineering Society. Would that be acceptable? UW EngSoc Page Main Editor, 19:13, 4 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.49.149.67 (talk)
- Still wouldn't make it notable. Onel5969 TT me 20:12, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
Re:ZKS Stal Stalowa Wola moved to draftspace
Hi, tell me what specific doubts you have about the article about ZKS Stal Stalowa Wola. It is not long, but it has sources. I don't see why you moved it to the sketch. Please explain. Najgorszakomediaromantyczna (talk) 21:53, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- Najgorszakomediaromantyczna, There is not enough in-depth coverage from independent reliable sources to show it passes WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 22:28, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- onel5969, If so, what are the enough in-depth coverage from independent reliable sources to show it passes WP:GNG, in the KS Cracovia article? IMO it is normal, that exist quite short articles, but necessary - that shows the clubs sport in general, not only through the prism of the football club; IMO it passes WP:GNG. Najgorszakomediaromantyczna (talk) 18:00, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
"List of Swiss artists nominated for MTV Europe Music Awards" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect List of Swiss artists nominated for MTV Europe Music Awards. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 December 5#List of Swiss artists nominated for MTV Europe Music Awards until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Spiderone 11:08, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
Wrong speedy deletion tag
I don’t know what is going on. But I didn’t violate no copyright. I copy edited the article myself. Jhenderson 777 16:15, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
- Jhenderson777, I have no idea what you're talking about. Onel5969 TT me 18:19, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
- This? Jhenderson 777 18:24, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
- Jhenderson777, okay, yes, appears to be a mirror. Onel5969 TT me 18:36, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
- This? Jhenderson 777 18:24, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
Toowoomba Athol Road
@Onel5969: This road is no longer part of the Gore Highway, so your change to a redirect makes no sense. Downsize43 (talk) 20:43, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
- Downsize43, it once was, so it is a valid redirect. And as per WP:BURDEN, once uncited material is removed, which the entire article is uncited, it should not be re-added without providing valid references. Onel5969 TT me 00:39, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
SIG MP41 thing - what happened?
I have no idea what prompted the copyright thing. I mainly used info from Chris McNab's "Modern Small Arms - 300 of the World's Greatest Small Arms" book (ISBN 9781782742166) with small bits from there and there - like gunwiki and modernfirearms and others. Like is naming the firearm designer a copyright violation or something?
I know this copyright or "plagiarism" thing is a dead serious issue - but I daresay that this is borderline gaming the system here. Would you or User:Cwmhiraeth care to elaborate a bit about the specifics of this kerfuffle? --TrickShotFinn (talk) 15:38, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- @TrickShotFinn: The source concerned was SIG MP-41 Neuhausen submachine gun (Switzerland). Your version was similar to some of the phraseology on that page, for example
- Your version "In order to fire the gun, the shooter would need to push a magazine housing catch, located at the front of the forend, on its underside. This will release the magazine, then rotates down to a vertical position under its own weight, and locks in automatically, ready to fire."
- The source "To commence firing, the shooter has to press a magazine housing catch, located at the front of the forend, on its underside. This will release the magazine, then rotates down to a vertical position under its own weight, and locks in automatically, ready to fire."
There are other sentences that are also copyvios. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
My bad - I do admit that segment's from there. I thought something bigger was removed because everything was crossed in "view history" and it freaked me out. --TrickShotFinn (talk) 17:58, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- And might I also suggest you calm down on uncivil accusations. Onel5969 TT me 19:46, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Draft and deleted articles
Hi, User:onel5969 Thank you.I will tag more information about Cirque DeDemain. Please wanted to ask you can you explain one thing week ago i got message that you checked an article Pavel Stankevych.But then the people deleted this page.I am disagree with this decision.Because he meets criteria WP:SPORTSPERSON or WP:ENT.Please let me know your thoughts because I saw already message that you checked this article.And then another people just deleted.ThanksBehappy 29 (talk) 17:25, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Behappy 29, please make sure that your references are in-depth and from independent, reliable sources, so that it meets WP:GNG. I would suggest you go through the AfC process, to help you find your way to notability. Regarding the deleted article, my marking it reviewed was simply housekeeping, since the outcome of the AfD would decide the article's future. I did not vote at the AfD, but if I had, I would have supported it's deletion, since a WP:BEFORE search does not show nearly enough in-depth coverage to pass WP:GNG, and the person clearly does not meet either SPORTSPERSON or ENT. Onel5969 TT me 19:51, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hi,thank you for your answer.But what about International Cirque Festival in Paris where Pavel won a bronze medal?It was including in the article.He also was performing with Cirque Du Soleil.Now working with company Spiegelworld. Was invited guest on Italian German Spain and Ellen Dedgeneres Show.I just check the same article Christoph and Manuel Mitasch , Olga Pikhienko , Jinny Jacinto.And Pavel also won a medal on Cirque Festival in Paris.Behappy 29 (talk) 18:52, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
New Page Patroller's Barnstar
The New Page Patroller's Barnstar | ||
Thanks and you are fastAkrasia25 (talk) 19:29, 6 December 2020 (UTC) |
- Thanks. And keep up the good work. Some new articles, like yours, are easier to review than others. Onel5969 TT me 19:52, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Deleting Incineroar article
Why did you delete the Incineroar article?. Its information on the list of Pokemon page was enough for its own page.Reynold91 (talk) 19:44, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Reynold91, there was a deletion discussion which resulted in consensus for it to be a redirect, which is what I explained in my edit summary. Onel5969 TT me 19:53, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- What was wrong with the Incineroar page other than not having an image?Reynold91 (talk) 20:35, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Reynold91, other than having no references and no notability? Nothing. Onel5969 TT me 20:44, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- There was a references list and what do you mean no notablility?Reynold91 (talk) 20:55, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- It also has notability.Reynold91 (talk) 20:06, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- There was a references list and what do you mean no notablility?Reynold91 (talk) 20:55, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- Reynold91, other than having no references and no notability? Nothing. Onel5969 TT me 20:44, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- What was wrong with the Incineroar page other than not having an image?Reynold91 (talk) 20:35, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Bypassing WP:AfC/R
I came to notice that you recently marked 2020 France–Islamist controversy and 2020 France-Islamist controversy redirects as reviewed. While the latter was automatically created by AnomieBOT, I'd like to draw your attention to the fact that the former was manipulatively created by a direct move from the draft namespace without consulting the redirect wizard. There's currently a discussion to determine the legitimacy of these redirects and their predecessor drafts as subtopics of their current target instead of the WP:SPINOFF that they were originally meant to be until the now indefed page mover, GPinkerton, unilaterally decided to move them on grounds of being WP:POVFORKs. On a side note, as well, I believe the current title is ungrammatical. It should've been 2020 France-Islamists controversy instead. Please let me know your rationale behind reviewing, thanks. Assem Khidhr (talk) 01:56, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Wildcat Stage Productions
Hi. Thank you for responding so quickly to my new page. This is my first Wiki page. I'd be grateful if you could be more specific in your objections so that I can respond to them. For background, I was the theatre critic of the Times newspaper and arts editor of The Scotsman newspaper between 1997 and 2013 in Scotland so I know the subject matter well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert Dawson Scott (talk • contribs) 15:42, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- Robert Dawson Scott, hi. One could tell that you are very familiar with the subject, that's part of the issue. It's written from a very non-neutral point of view. Be wary of terms like "launched the careers of a number of now familiar Scottish talent", "Despite an energetic campaign", and "one of the best loved pieces of popular", as well as peacock terms like "influential", and "accomplished ". The bigger issue is the lack of opposing viewpoint. If this was a left-leaning group in that time period, there was probably negative press about it, not of which is included, presenting a very one-sided view of the group. Depending on your involvement in the theater scene, you might have a COI issue. It's one of the reasons I stay away from editing on any of the pages of people I know personally. But you might not, I don't know, just be careful. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 16:12, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Barnstar
The Editor's Barnstar | ||
Hello. I've seen you have improved several articles I've created, so I wanted to thank you for your work. Regards. ExoEditor 17:22, 7 December 2020 (UTC) |
Tagging plant stubs "one source"
Please do not continue to tag stubs on plants as "one source". A one-sentence stub with one source is acceptable, and the stubs should have a "taxonbar" template at the bottom with a half-dozen or more other WP:V sources. Also, nobody will ever improve these stubs because of a tag. They might improve the stub because they care about the topic, but usually the tag just sits there for years, distracting the readers and accomplishing nothing. Abductive (reasoning) 22:55, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- Abductive, that sounds reasonable. I wasn't thinking of the links in the taxonbar as being sources, but you're right. However, if one of these stubs gets created without the bar, I feel compelled to tag it accurately as a single source. Onel5969 TT me 03:12, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Absolutely. Over at Wikiproject Plants we are trying to educate the new editors about doing a more thorough job on the stubs. Abductive (reasoning) 03:23, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Urgent request at the Articles for deletion for Erik J. Berg
Hello Onel5969, I am regarding about the articled titled Erik J. Berg. The article Erik J. Berg was created back in 2009, and it has no citation sources at all. I have remove portions of unsourced content that includes removing the date of birth and birthplace the article still has no citation sources. Erik J. Berg was ineligible for proposed deletion for the second time. Now for my request could put the article Erik J. Berg into "Articles for deletion" for the 2nd nomination. On the 1st nomination at the Erik J. Berg the result on the 1st nomination was a "Keep". Now could you put Erik J. Berg into the articles for deletion for the 2nd nomination at the articles for deletion and unsourced content at the Erik J. Berg article and it does not meet the WP:GNG for my request. Will you do the request at the articles for deletion for me please? I will be happy for your reply to confirm my request. I thank you and and please stay healthy during the pandemic. Take care of yourself. 2001:569:74D2:A800:CCDD:EC60:A7AC:7923 (talk) 23:21, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- Sure thing. Done. Onel5969 TT me 23:33, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Dablinks: Tatari
This edit changed the meaning: the context has to do with the threat of a Mongol ("Tatar") invasion of the Iranian city of Herat, and as far as I can see, there were no hordes of Japanese ghosts involved.
This link is also not optimal – the word linked is not a synonym for the introduced link target, but a related topic, so piping it the way you've done will likely be confusing to readers. Linking that word may not even be necessary – it's possible to tweak another link earlier in the text to point to the same article. – Uanfala (talk) 00:07, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Uanfala, regarding the first one, it definitely didn't refer to a place, or a person. Normally, I'd point it to the target that changing the redirect to a dab made, but pointing it to the spider made no sense. Since it was an attack, I felt the vengeance angle was the best option. But I can see now I most likely should just have delinked it. However, I disagree with your assessment regarding the second one, I feel it's clearly pointing to the vengeance concept. But I always yield to your superior knowledge in eastern languages. Onel5969 TT me 00:18, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, in the second article, it is the vengeance concept that's indented. But my point was that linking to it with [[Onryo|Tatari]] was confusing. I don't have any knowledge of Japanese, I'm just approaching this from the angle of an average reader. – Uanfala (talk) 00:25, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Uanfala, see your point. What do you think of this edit? Bit more specific. Onel5969 TT me 00:31, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- That makes sense. An alternative is to unlink it, and then pipe the "vengeful spirits" link in the preceding sentence to point to Onryo instead. – Uanfala (talk) 00:34, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Uanfala, see your point. What do you think of this edit? Bit more specific. Onel5969 TT me 00:31, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, in the second article, it is the vengeance concept that's indented. But my point was that linking to it with [[Onryo|Tatari]] was confusing. I don't have any knowledge of Japanese, I'm just approaching this from the angle of an average reader. – Uanfala (talk) 00:25, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Hey! Thank you so much for reviewing my articles and also thanks for the proposal deletion. I want to delete those articles but idk how. Thank you so much! I appreciate your hard work! Keep it up friend! Merry Christmas!
ArriehM (talk) 15:41, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Adding oil to fire
Please double check before templating some one of copyright violation,I am currently blocked indefinitely beacause of a misunderstanding and you seem to add oil to that..I wonder why is this even happening to me,,the word Alapai is not copied by it is use from Meitei language Alappa da paiba( meaning flew in distance).Thanks can you please remove the template you put on me as I am under investigation I don't want any more misunderstanding.ꯂꯨꯋꯥꯡ (ꯆꯥ) 17:37, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Patrick Judge review
Hey there, I wanted to ask why you redirected the page for Patrick Judge to Demon Hunter again? The reason it had previously been redirected was because of a lack of sources and bad formatting of the page. However, since then, back in 2015, there have been several sources, which I outlined in the page. Despite that, it got redirected again without giving it a chance. I just wanted to ask your expert opinion as to what that decision entailed? --Metalworker14 (Yo) 22:09, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Those weren't the only, in fact, they weren't the main reason, which he doesn't have any notability outside the group. Which is still the issue. Your article was well-written and formatted, but virtually every source (except 1 I think) was about the band or other members of the band.Onel5969 TT me 22:14, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, my mistake. I tried to find more sources for him and I think I found three specifically relating to him or had him talking. However, I understand why that would not qualify him for notability. Maybe one day he'll get better at being more vocal in interviews and whatnot. --Metalworker14 (Yo) 22:47, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Metalworker14 - no worries. Just remember that interviews are considered primary sources, and therefore don't count towards notability. Keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 00:15, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, my mistake. I tried to find more sources for him and I think I found three specifically relating to him or had him talking. However, I understand why that would not qualify him for notability. Maybe one day he'll get better at being more vocal in interviews and whatnot. --Metalworker14 (Yo) 22:47, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Sending articles to Draft that have some sources
Hello. Recently you sent two articles (Valentin Belokhvostik and Mikhailovsky Square) that had some References to the Draft version, thus inactivating the articles. These stubs had at least one source and additional sources in Bibliography. You chose to inactivate the articles instead of letting the editors know that more sources can be added for improvement. Partizan Kuzya (talk) 17:57, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Partizan Kuzya, you're correct. I did do that. Please see WP:DRAFTIFY, which these articles are poster children for. Onel5969 TT me 17:59, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
This is a poor practice to expand on the diversity and inclusion of topics of the articles. Due to a lack of awareness and support from the community, these articles will be in the draft stage for a very long time. The measures should not be as harsh as to silence some topics, but rather constructive to support the editors (e.g., a notification through tagging before sending the article to the draft stage). Partizan Kuzya (talk) 19:07, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Partizan Kuzya, no, what is poor practice is putting forth poor articles, and then expecting other editors to do one's work for them. Draftication is the perfect practice to encourage editors to develop articles in the correct way, without deleting them outright. If these articles remain "in the draft stage for a very long time", then that's on you, and your unwillingness to work on articles you created. Onel5969 TT me 19:14, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
What was meant above is that you did not give me a chance to correct it if you were to tag it instead. You chose to silence it for months without warning. I don't believe this is an inclusive practice. Partizan Kuzya (talk) 19:25, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not sure of the point of draftifying here either: Onel5969, if the topics appear non-notable, you should send them to PROD or AfD. Otherwise, draftification only makes sense if there's something very bad with the article, you can't fix it easily yourself, and there are people around who will be able to address the issues. Draftification is not a process to push articles from Start– to B-quality, or to force people to justify notability. Partizan Kuzya, there's nothing stopping you from moving the articles back into mainspace. – Uanfala (talk) 19:26, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Uanfala, as per draftify, if "the topic has some potential merit", which I felt they both did, and "the article does not meet the required standard", which they clearly didn't, and "there is no evidence of active improvement", which they hadn't been worked on in weeks, then the proper course of action is to draftify. Potentially permatagging an article is not the correct move. As per Draftify, since there is an objection, I have moved them back into the mainspace. Onel5969 TT me 19:39, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, and yeah, looky at that. They both now pass GNG criteria and are fit for mainspace. So draftification worked perfectly. Onel5969 TT me 19:40, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- And what is the "required standard"? I don't believe there's an expectation that newly created articles should be GA-ready. The articles didn't pass GNG just now, notability is a feature of topics, not of pages. If notability was a concern in draftifying, then this is a sign of a failed due diligence in the review process. Yes, draftyfing here had the end result of aggravating the creator and pushing them to make improvements to the articles. You can count that as a success, if you wish, but in the majority of cases, a draftified article would simply sit there for six months until it expires. – Uanfala (talk) 19:51, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Adding that you may want to have a look at the explanatory text in Wikipedia:Drafts#During new page review – it has been expanded in recent years. – Uanfala (talk) 19:52, 9 December 2020 (UTC)- Uanfala, no, but verifiability and sourcing are. Both of which were woefully inadequate. And I'm sorry if expecting editors to actually do the work on the articles they create is seen as a form of aggravation. But that's their issue, not mine. l never said the improvements simply made them pass GNG, I said they now pass GNG and are fit for mainspace. And yes, I always count improving articles and making them ready for mainspace a success. Onel5969 TT me 19:56, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- You may want to have a look specifically at the elaboration of point 2) of Wikipedia:Drafts#During new page review, especially 2a and 2d. – Uanfala (talk) 20:02, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Uanfala, did you look at it? 2d: "The page is a recent creation by an inexperienced editor. " I would consider someone who's been editing since October 2020 an inexperienced editor. In addition, those are examples, and are not inclusive of ALL the reasons. WP:V is a policy, which states (among other things), "All material in Wikipedia mainspace, including everything in articles, lists and captions, must be verifiable." Not meeting that criteria would certainly qualify under 2a.Onel5969 TT me 20:08, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Well, I'd consider an editor with over 1,000 edits experienced. As for verifiability, yes, it is a policy, but what's the relevance here? Both articles had solid sourcing at the time of draftification [3] [4]. – Uanfala (talk) 20:20, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Uanfala, less than 2 months is not enough time to learn all the broad strokes of WP, let alone its nuances. And a single source is solid? Seriously? Especially in the actor's article, where virtually none of the essential points in the wp article were mentioned in the source (Moscow State Institute of Theater Arts, Yanka Kupala National Academic Theater, Laureate of the State Prize of the BSSR, National Artist of the Republic of Belarus, or any of the films in the filmography). But yeah, I guess aside from that, it's pretty well sourced.Onel5969 TT me 21:03, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Are we talking about the same articles? Valentin Belokhvostik had two sources, one of which was an entry in a 2005 print encyclopedia. Mikhailovsky Square had four sources. Both articles were short, with fewer than 100 words of text each. What standard of sourcing do you expect? – Uanfala (talk) 21:13, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Uanfala, sorry, the actor had a single source, the other was a "Literature" feature, which was not used as a source in the article. The square also had a single source, with 3 pieces in a "Bibliography" with no footnotes. One of those was a duplicate of the single reference, the second was to a promotional tourism site, and the third was not available online. So, yeah, especially with a short article, it's not difficult to provide adequate sourcing. Which neither had. Onel5969 TT me 21:33, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ermm.... Well.. inline citations – the ones that are used within the text and output footnotes, are only one form of sourcing. They're not strictly required beyond a small number of situations (e.g. direct quotations, or material that has been challenged). An article can have general references, which are given in a list at the end, which is typically titled "Bibliography" (and yes, sometimes "Literature"). – Uanfala (talk) 21:43, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Uanfala, less than 2 months is not enough time to learn all the broad strokes of WP, let alone its nuances. And a single source is solid? Seriously? Especially in the actor's article, where virtually none of the essential points in the wp article were mentioned in the source (Moscow State Institute of Theater Arts, Yanka Kupala National Academic Theater, Laureate of the State Prize of the BSSR, National Artist of the Republic of Belarus, or any of the films in the filmography). But yeah, I guess aside from that, it's pretty well sourced.Onel5969 TT me 21:03, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Well, I'd consider an editor with over 1,000 edits experienced. As for verifiability, yes, it is a policy, but what's the relevance here? Both articles had solid sourcing at the time of draftification [3] [4]. – Uanfala (talk) 20:20, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Uanfala, did you look at it? 2d: "The page is a recent creation by an inexperienced editor. " I would consider someone who's been editing since October 2020 an inexperienced editor. In addition, those are examples, and are not inclusive of ALL the reasons. WP:V is a policy, which states (among other things), "All material in Wikipedia mainspace, including everything in articles, lists and captions, must be verifiable." Not meeting that criteria would certainly qualify under 2a.Onel5969 TT me 20:08, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- You may want to have a look specifically at the elaboration of point 2) of Wikipedia:Drafts#During new page review, especially 2a and 2d. – Uanfala (talk) 20:02, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Uanfala, no, but verifiability and sourcing are. Both of which were woefully inadequate. And I'm sorry if expecting editors to actually do the work on the articles they create is seen as a form of aggravation. But that's their issue, not mine. l never said the improvements simply made them pass GNG, I said they now pass GNG and are fit for mainspace. And yes, I always count improving articles and making them ready for mainspace a success. Onel5969 TT me 19:56, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- And what is the "required standard"? I don't believe there's an expectation that newly created articles should be GA-ready. The articles didn't pass GNG just now, notability is a feature of topics, not of pages. If notability was a concern in draftifying, then this is a sign of a failed due diligence in the review process. Yes, draftyfing here had the end result of aggravating the creator and pushing them to make improvements to the articles. You can count that as a success, if you wish, but in the majority of cases, a draftified article would simply sit there for six months until it expires. – Uanfala (talk) 19:51, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, and yeah, looky at that. They both now pass GNG criteria and are fit for mainspace. So draftification worked perfectly. Onel5969 TT me 19:40, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Uanfala, as per draftify, if "the topic has some potential merit", which I felt they both did, and "the article does not meet the required standard", which they clearly didn't, and "there is no evidence of active improvement", which they hadn't been worked on in weeks, then the proper course of action is to draftify. Potentially permatagging an article is not the correct move. As per Draftify, since there is an objection, I have moved them back into the mainspace. Onel5969 TT me 19:39, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not sure of the point of draftifying here either: Onel5969, if the topics appear non-notable, you should send them to PROD or AfD. Otherwise, draftification only makes sense if there's something very bad with the article, you can't fix it easily yourself, and there are people around who will be able to address the issues. Draftification is not a process to push articles from Start– to B-quality, or to force people to justify notability. Partizan Kuzya, there's nothing stopping you from moving the articles back into mainspace. – Uanfala (talk) 19:26, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- WP:V requires inline citations only for a small number of situations. Apart from these, verifiability is perfectly well satisfied with either an inline citation, or a general reference. As far as I can see, the only way you can claim the articles weren't adequately sourced is if you had missed those sources. – Uanfala (talk) 21:59, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Uanfala, well, then you missed the fact they weren't well sourced. Can't help that. And I think we're done here. At this point you are simply senselessly arguing. Onel5969 TT me 22:03, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- WP:V requires inline citations only for a small number of situations. Apart from these, verifiability is perfectly well satisfied with either an inline citation, or a general reference. As far as I can see, the only way you can claim the articles weren't adequately sourced is if you had missed those sources. – Uanfala (talk) 21:59, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Partizan Kuzya, at least one of the articles was tagged, soon after you created it, at which point you lazily added a single source, and then promptly did no further work on it, so obviously simply tagging didn't work. And don't post on my page again. Onel5969 TT me 19:44, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
:) Uanfala :) and Onel5969, thank you! (even though I was not allowed to talk here anymore). I am quite chatty :D :D. Partizan Kuzya (talk) 20:11, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Onel5969: I am not sure if it was due to this process or not, but Mikhailovsky Square was unlinked from three other WP languages. I linked it back. The page was created as a translation and was linked to other WPs during the translation. I do not see a record when it was unlinked. I am just bringing the awareness -- no intention to start another lengthy discussion, as I believe we all here for the same purpose, improvement. Thank you. Partizan Kuzya (talk) 21:17, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Partizan Kuzya, not sure what happened. I just went through history, and those 3 were on every iteration. Onel5969 TT me 21:36, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Handball WCH and ECH
Hi. I saw you have inserted the template on the articles I created in the last days, which need more sources according to the template. These squads are pretty old informations, and you can't find so many sources to these articles. I have found one webpage where you can find all of the games of these championships with all of the players. That was my source. I think, it is very nice to have this database on the Wikipedia, and at least it has one source. So please delete that template on the articles and don't delete this articles. It can be very important for the fans to read, and I had a lot of work with that. Thank you for your understanding! --Betomi23 (talk) 08:07, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Abstract Securities - Page Marked for Speedy Deletion
Hi, you marked my page Abstract Securities Ltd for speedy deletion, and it was deleted by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Red_Phoenix.
I will rewrite the page, and submit the draft for review then. Dirk Brockhausen (talk) 09:09, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Dirk Brockhausen, I would suggest going through the AfC process, if you do. Please remember that WP is not an advertising platform. Onel5969 TT me 13:23, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Christine Fang
Hi, thanks for tagging the Christine Fang article for paraphrasing, you beat me to it! :) What do you make of the whole thing anyway? It seems to be a ten-year-old article about an altogether different person, which until now mostly had a redir, but the page has suddenly been 'repurposed'. Thoughts? --DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:16, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- DoubleGrazing, I try to stay away from political stuff on WP, but the article is well sourced, from a variety of sources (CNN, Fox, The Times, Axios, etc.), and involved a candidate for President of the US, so most likely will go beyond WP:NOTNEWS. My concern was WP:BIO1E, but her involvement with multiple US officials probably moves her beyond that. I particularly liked the Vox headline. BTW, keep up your good work. Onel5969 TT me 13:22, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, I wasn't being clear - my bad! I meant, is it okay to take over an existing article like that, doesn't that mess up the edit history, talk page, incoming links, etc.? (Or have I missed something? Happens all the time, I can assure you!) Cheers, --DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:27, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- DoubleGrazing, oh, sorry. I don't think so in this case. The original was an uncited stub, with a single line of text, and other than that, and then the redirect, the history is not that extensive. If it had been an actual article, which had dubious notability, then it might be more problematic.Onel5969 TT me 13:32, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, I wasn't being clear - my bad! I meant, is it okay to take over an existing article like that, doesn't that mess up the edit history, talk page, incoming links, etc.? (Or have I missed something? Happens all the time, I can assure you!) Cheers, --DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:27, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi Onel5969 I am the editor who wrote the article from scratch and I can see that you tagged it for close paraphrasing. Can you tell me which section you think I close paraphrased? I went to great lengths to summarize as much of the article as possible so I am not sure what you may be referring to. The only part of the article I can see which might violates close paraphrasing would be the "Impact" section - I've made some changes to address this. Forevertruthsayer (talk) 00:39, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Forevertruthsayer, if you look at this report, it will show you where the issues are. I rarely use the tag for close paraphrasing, and I'm actually a bit shocked it doesn't include the copyvio report. It's not a bad case of copyvio, but just enough to be worrisome. Onel5969 TT me 01:09, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- I've fixed what I think are the major copyvios in the article. If you don't object, then I will go ahead and remove the close paraphrasing tag. Forevertruthsayer (talk) 01:27, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Forevertruthsayer, okay, I took a pass at it. Looks okay now. Onel5969 TT me 02:47, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- I've fixed what I think are the major copyvios in the article. If you don't object, then I will go ahead and remove the close paraphrasing tag. Forevertruthsayer (talk) 01:27, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
I marked the article for speedy deletion however you removed the tag. The event is mentioned under Eric_Swalwell#Ties_to_alleged_Chinese_spy. The article is not well sourced. It's merely salacious, so the exclusive Axios article [5] has been reported in other places. The fundamental problem is as I've outlined in the talk, is that this person was merely followed for potentially being a spy. The only facts were her involvement with powerful men. She wasn't arrested. She left the US voluntarily. The only govt action was to warn Swalwell of the risk. The Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons policy applies, which says just being suspected of something is not noteworthy. As is, the article is not biographical, but defamatory and a disclosure of confidential information. Can we return the tag so the matter can be carefully reviewed by administrators to decide what process should be followed. Travelmite (talk) 22:10, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Travelmite, first, yes, she left voluntarily, as in fleeing the country. Second, the article is incredibly well sourced. And if you don't think an article sourced by the SF Chronicle, Axios, The Hindustan Times, Cleveland's City Beat, Politico, Fox, and CNN isn't well sourced then you are clueless. Onel5969 TT me 22:35, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
Municipalities of Nepal
Why do you think Municipalities of Nepal should be redirect to List of cities in Nepal? I had created that article with history of cities and mentioned what criteria should meet to a settlement to upgrade it to Metropolitan municipality, submetropolitan municipality and municipality. Yeah my English is not good but anyone can make corrections in that article. --- 👤Raju💌 13:30, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Raju Babu, because the article already exists at list of cities in Nepal, which clearly states in its opening sentence, "Cities and towns in Nepal are incorporated under municipality". Therefore it is a list of municipalities, and contains the information in the article you created. If there is additional information, feel free to add it to the existing article. Onel5969 TT me 13:34, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- I've restored the article. Onel5969, yes, there's clear overlap in the scope, but the two articles were substantially different in content, and the lists were organised along different lines. You can tag the two pages for merging? Raju Babu, do you think these should remain as separate articles? If yes, then it will help if any "division of labour" between the two articles is clarified. – Uanfala (talk) 15:06, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- onel5969 and Uanfala Should I remove description from the List of cities in Nepal and put it in Municipalities of Nepal? Because if we will add description, history in List of cities in Nepal, the page will be too long and I also want to keep a list of Municipalities by the date of establishment because here in this category Category:Municipalities of Nepal by year of establishment confusion occurred. I see here there are more municipalities than 293. There were some municipalities established in 2014, 2015 or before but they were merged to another municipality in 2017, so I want to track those municipality and merged with the related municipalities. We can add more content with Municipalities of Nepal about history, criteria and other thing. --- 👤Raju💌 16:45, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Raju Babu, please address your comment on Uanfala's talk page, as I don't feel there is a need for two articles which overlap so greatly. And Uanfala, I've tried to avoid requesting this, as I respect you as an editor, especially in certain areas, but at this point, please stay off my talk page unless required to do so, your wikihounding is getting old. Onel5969 TT me 16:52, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- onel5969 and Uanfala Should I remove description from the List of cities in Nepal and put it in Municipalities of Nepal? Because if we will add description, history in List of cities in Nepal, the page will be too long and I also want to keep a list of Municipalities by the date of establishment because here in this category Category:Municipalities of Nepal by year of establishment confusion occurred. I see here there are more municipalities than 293. There were some municipalities established in 2014, 2015 or before but they were merged to another municipality in 2017, so I want to track those municipality and merged with the related municipalities. We can add more content with Municipalities of Nepal about history, criteria and other thing. --- 👤Raju💌 16:45, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- I've restored the article. Onel5969, yes, there's clear overlap in the scope, but the two articles were substantially different in content, and the lists were organised along different lines. You can tag the two pages for merging? Raju Babu, do you think these should remain as separate articles? If yes, then it will help if any "division of labour" between the two articles is clarified. – Uanfala (talk) 15:06, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Hello. I think that this EP is as notable as other Replikas albums, which are: Köledoyuran, Dadaruhi, Avaz (album), FM (album), Zerre and Biz Burada Yok İken. In my opinion, if we are considering these other albums notable, this EP should be considered notable too. --Dijkstra (talk) 14:12, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Dijkstra, hi. Sorry, but what we "think" about a subject's notability is irrelevant. And WP:OSE isn't really a good argument. Please see WP:NALBUM as to what makes an album notable by WP standards. Onel5969 TT me 14:29, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for your answer but it's not what I said. What I said was; "Other albums by the same artist are considered notable, so this album by the same artist should be notable too". If I'm still being incorrect, I apologise for taking your time. --Dijkstra (talk) 15:04, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Dijkstra, And that is what is called WP:OSE, which is what I meant when I referenced it in my earlier response. Which isn't a very good argument for notability. Onel5969 TT me 15:06, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks again. --Dijkstra (talk) 00:46, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Dijkstra, And that is what is called WP:OSE, which is what I meant when I referenced it in my earlier response. Which isn't a very good argument for notability. Onel5969 TT me 15:06, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for your answer but it's not what I said. What I said was; "Other albums by the same artist are considered notable, so this album by the same artist should be notable too". If I'm still being incorrect, I apologise for taking your time. --Dijkstra (talk) 15:04, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar | |
You are so awesome for reviewing my many recent new articles. Thanks for your time and effort. SWP13 (talk) 17:22, 10 December 2020 (UTC) |
- No worries, SWP13 - keep up the good work, we need good editors who understand Chinese to expand the English WP. Your articles are well-structured and well-sourced, so they are pretty easy to evaluate. As I said, keep up the good work.Onel5969 TT me 18:11, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
>>Thanks. These recent new articles are for a Women In Red contest. I cut and paste the Chinese characters. SWP13 (talk) 19:03, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
The Best American Short Stories 2020
You recently reviewed the page The Best American Short Stories 2020, which I created, and determined that it does not meet notability guidelines for books. All The Best American Short Story anthologies published after 1991 have their own page, so it should be expected that the 2020 anthology would also have its own page. Additionally, this page follows the exact same format as the page The Best American Short Stories 2019. Does that page meet notability guidelines for books?
Also, people who are viewing the page The Best American Short Stories will now encounter a self-redirect (WP:SELFRED). This should be avoided, as it may cause someone to wrongly believe that a page has been created for the 2020 anthology. Johnj1995 (talk) 20:31, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Johnj1995, please familiarize yourself with WP:NBOOK, to see how to show a book is notable. Regardless of whether or not other crappily cited articles exist is not an excuse to add more crappily cited articles, that's an WP:OSE argument. Onel5969 TT me 21:54, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
Isabelle Reine Discussion
You replied to Doomsdayer520 at the AFD for this article. I think that Doomsdayer520 is acting under a good-faith error about Articles for Creation, and thinks that something was wrong with the AFC review of this article so that it was approved. I am discussing with them on their user talk page. My assessment is that AFC worked as intended, and did not approve the article, but that the article was moved by the author into article space anyway. I agree with you that this is a case where NPP is the gate, as it is the gate for all new articles, but it isn't a case of reviewer error, but of the author ignoring the review. Maybe you or I can explain further. I think that you and I and Doomsdayer520 all agree that the article should be deleted, and that we only disagree as to what the procedural error was. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:50, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
- Robert McClenon, thanks. I saw the beginning of your discussion on their talk page, and was hesitant to butt in, but will reply there later. I think you and I are in complete agreement no this. I review at least 10 articles a day from AfC, and I rarely have an issue (although some of the newer reviewers are putting some articles in mainspace which I find questionable -- not in terms of notability, but just poorly formatted and structured and downright confusing at times). Onel5969 TT me 20:01, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
Bayonetta 3
I would like to ask why you deleted everything Bayonetta 3 is confirmed by Nintendo and has a trailer on YouTube by Nintendo. I was still working on this article and adding citations. Bayonetta 3 is real. Why did you delete my progress on this article. GeekFreak98 (talk) 17:59, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- GeekFreak98, hi. The proper place to "work on" articles is in draft. Other editors don't know when you're done with your editing, and having uncited material on WP is not acceptable to some editors (and can be removed at any time as per policy). That's why draft is a good place to work on an article undisturbed. Another way is to place a {{construction}} tag at the top of the article. That will give you a day or two to work on the article in mainspace. Onel5969 TT me 12:05, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
I see, thank you for replying. I will do better next time. For now I'll only do existing articles. Have a safe day. GeekFreak98 (talk) 15:31, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Question regarding Talk:Newsmax#Proposed merge (Newsmax TV to Newsmax)
Would this consider the talkpage merge discussion moot or closed, or would this be a separate matter (I just found out after checking the NMTV AfD this discussion is still going on). Nate • (chatter) 03:04, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Mrschimpf, Since the AfD discussion had many more participants, I would consider the discussion on the talk page moot, and should be closed, since the consensus was clearly to keep the article, rather than merge. I find it interesting that only 1 of the 4 folks in the merge discussion participated at the AfD. Even if you include the other 3 from the merge discussion, the preponderance of the of the !votes was to keep. Onel5969 TT me 11:56, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- I would have to ask someone else to close it then; as someone INVOLVED in the past discussing article edits with someone editing in the stead of Newsmax's CEO (see edits on NMTV eariler in 2020), I feel I could not close the discussion myself. Nate • (chatter) 22:02, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hey barkeep49 - This discussion was ongoing simultaneously to the AfD discussion. Could you take a look at the discussion, and give me your opinion on whether or not my above assumption is correct? Thanks. Onel5969 TT me 00:32, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Given the clear keep and lack of serious discussion around a merge, I agree. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:18, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Barkeep49, thanks. Onel5969 TT me 01:19, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you both for your swift addressing of the matter here. Nate • (chatter) 04:03, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- As I was afraid of (and expected), the NMTV AfD nominator has restored the templates and reverted our edits, and said it's 'not moot'. Nate • (chatter) 05:49, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Barkeep49, thanks. Onel5969 TT me 01:19, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Given the clear keep and lack of serious discussion around a merge, I agree. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:18, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hey barkeep49 - This discussion was ongoing simultaneously to the AfD discussion. Could you take a look at the discussion, and give me your opinion on whether or not my above assumption is correct? Thanks. Onel5969 TT me 00:32, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- I would have to ask someone else to close it then; as someone INVOLVED in the past discussing article edits with someone editing in the stead of Newsmax's CEO (see edits on NMTV eariler in 2020), I feel I could not close the discussion myself. Nate • (chatter) 22:02, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Can you help me move an article?
Iraqi Civil War (2006–2009) to Iraqi Civil War (2006–2008) the old user who moved the date specified no sources and territorial conflict ended by mid 2008, but there’s a redirect on the other name Ridax2020 (talk) 07:47, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ridax2020, hi. I understand your rationale, but you've opened a move discussion, so that should run its course. Especially since a different move discussion was recently had, resulting in not moving the article. Once the move discussion is over, if the article is not moved by the closer, I'll be happy to help you. Onel5969 TT me 12:00, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Jon Everist
re: No Major Awards - Hello Onel, Thanks for your time and look-through of my Jon Everist page additions. The ASCAP award referenced is very substantial in that industry as it is the other half of the two major American composers organizations, the other being BMI - both organizations tied directly to how composers receive income for their work.
Additionally, there are other colleagues of his, specifically game composers that have pages but no awards listed at all. Refer to Sarah Schachner and Darren Korb.
I appreciate your time and attention to detail! Please let me know how we can move forward.
Luke17879 (talk) 16:49, 15 December 2020 (UTC)Luke17879
- Luke17879, Hi. Industry specific awards aren't what's meant in that notability criteria. Regarding the other composers, that's what is called an WP:OSE argument, and isn't persuasive. That being said, the thegamer.com article is a very nice piece on him. Unfortunately, it's the only in-depth ref in the article. If you could come up with at least another one like that (2 or 3 would be better), then I would definitely think he passes GNG. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 17:28, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi Onel, apologies for the OSE argument, that was weak on my part. I will get to work finding those other sources asap, appreciate your time and assistance.
Luke17879 (talk) 17:31, 15 December 2020 (UTC)Luke17879
- Luke17879, there you go. Nice job on the revision. Just marked it "reviewed". Keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 18:37, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Thank you so much for your helpful suggestions and notes. I appreciate it very much! Luke17879 (talk) 18:39, 15 December 2020 (UTC)Luke17879
- Luke17879, you're welcome, and again, keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 12:53, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Pancracio Chocolates
Thank you for reviewing the article Pancracio Chocolates.I have been improving the translation (grammar and structure)--Miskito89 (talk) 18:01, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Miskito89, no worries. Nice job, keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 18:39, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Nomination of Christine Fang for deletion
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christine Fang until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
Side note: not surprising how he (Travelmite) didn't notify you of this even though he had discussed the deletion issue with you at great length right here on your talk page. ([6], [7], [8] and [9]) Forevertruthsayer (talk) 19:25, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Forevertruthsayer, thanks, but be careful of canvassing. If I didn't have this page on my watch list, I would have been compelled not to !vote at the AfD. But since I also got notified through my watchlist of the discussion, I have no issue. Onel5969 TT me 00:29, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Re: Newsmax TV and merge discussions
You closed the AFD and that's fine, but the discussions are NOT "moot". I also have issues with your dismissal of actual points raised in the AFD closure, in favor of declaring a "consensus" of those who made no arguments, which is against the process as detailed in Wikipedia:Introduction_to_deletion_process. IHateAccounts (talk) 05:05, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'm also not very happy with your attempts to bum-rush the process rather than allow full times for discussion. IHateAccounts (talk) 05:13, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- IHateAccounts, your happiness is irrelevant for me. What is relevant is that you seem bent on wasting other editor's time. Now please stay off my talk page since you are a waste of time. Onel5969 TT me 12:55, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Onel5969: I was incredibly disappointed with you for this reply. I have only known you as a productive and positive editor, but calling another editor
a waste of time
is simply beyond the pale.
I already was in disagreement with your WP:AFD close as a WP:BADNAC which should've just been re-listed. However, your using it to suggest a merge discussion that several editors voiced support for is now somehow moot is simply disheartening. IHateAccounts followed the constructive advice of Toughpigs and is now operating in the correct channels to propose a merge, so trying to shut it down before a proper discussion can be had is simply disruptive on your end.
Experienced users like us have a duty to help guide new users through Wikipedia's various processes. What we do is a reflection of this project and its values. I am sure you will understand where I am coming from on that front. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 16:12, 16 December 2020 (UTC)- MJL, oh well. We'll disagree on the AfC closure, which in my opinion was a no-brainer, with the overwhelming support for keep. And while Toughpigs is absolutely correct that AfD is NOT the place to suggest a merge, when an AfD discussion is held, and the overwhelming consensus is to keep the article, and not merge, then opening a merge discussion is something that shouldn't be done so soon after the AfD discussion. It's like renominating right after a closure. The correct procedure would have been to take the AfD to DRV. The AfD discussion was broader in scope and contained many more editors (as more folks look at AfD's than merger discussions on a single page). It would have been one thing if the !votes based on policy were closer to no-consensus. If the editor above had reached out for help, rather than being combative, then I would have helped them. I was actually in the middle of crafting a very different response to their initial comment, when they added their second comment. Onel5969 TT me 16:47, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Onel5969: I was incredibly disappointed with you for this reply. I have only known you as a productive and positive editor, but calling another editor
- IHateAccounts, your happiness is irrelevant for me. What is relevant is that you seem bent on wasting other editor's time. Now please stay off my talk page since you are a waste of time. Onel5969 TT me 12:55, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
December 2020
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions at Newsmax TV. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is known as "edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.
If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to lose their editing privileges on that page. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to result in loss of your editing privileges. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 05:52, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Liz, a template? Really? I checked with another admin before removing the tag, which appears to be the appropriate move, then removed it again when a rather new, somewhat uncivil editor restored it. While I understand that you don't have to break 3RR to be in an edit war, I also think that a single revert when you believe an inexperienced editor is not aware of some of WP's nuances is warranted. But the funny thing is that I almost pinged you for your opinion on the matter. Regardless, thanks for all your hard work. Onel5969 TT me 12:52, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Well, I wanted to be fair by notifying both editors who were reverting in similar ways. I'm sorry if a template seemed impersonal. Liz Read! Talk! 03:37, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Liz, no worries. I just found it funny. Take care. Onel5969 TT me 13:17, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Well, I wanted to be fair by notifying both editors who were reverting in similar ways. I'm sorry if a template seemed impersonal. Liz Read! Talk! 03:37, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
Impact of Falsettos...
Hello, you recently did a PROD for Impact of Falsettos on the United States, but the PROD was removed by someone who said that a merge could be considered instead. I find that an odd reason for removing the PROD without further discussion, but the idea has a little merit. What would you think about proposing a merge to Falsettos? ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 16:26, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Doomsdayer520, I would have done that originally, however, my issue isn't with the notability of the article, rather that it falls (imho) under WP:NOTESSAY. Most of the is unsourced, and seems to be WP:OR or WP:SYNTH. That said, the limited amount I saw that could be put in the article, is already covered, for the most part in the themes section. The article, as written, doesn't have a whole lot of sourced material dealing with the affect of the show in the U.S., rather it appears to have some cited information on the themes in the show, and then a whole lot of OR about those themes. But maybe that's just me. Onel5969 TT me 16:34, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- I absolutely agree with you on original research in the "Impact..." article, as the stage show was mentioned in some social science studies on LGBT theater but only as an example, and not enough for the show's influence to be turned into its own topic. If the "Impact..." article is not merge-able, it could be a candidate for deletion. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 16:39, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Doomsdayer520, I don't disagree with that, obviously, since I prodded the article. Onel5969 TT me 17:19, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, I meant to suggest the full AfD process. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 17:23, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Doomsdayer520, I don't disagree with that, obviously, since I prodded the article. Onel5969 TT me 17:19, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- I absolutely agree with you on original research in the "Impact..." article, as the stage show was mentioned in some social science studies on LGBT theater but only as an example, and not enough for the show's influence to be turned into its own topic. If the "Impact..." article is not merge-able, it could be a candidate for deletion. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 16:39, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Tennis
Hello, I have got a question. I think that Martin Krumich and Vojtěch Petr (tennis) are notable per Wikipedia:Notability#General_notability_guideline. Could you please check references and let me know if are they notable? The article about them published a lot of reliable sources (in different languages, so they have a foreign dimension). I haven't used all the articles I've found about them. Best, --Cool Cosma (talk) 19:00, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Disambiguating Queen's Theatre
PS: I've now fixed those articles (the ones referring to 20th-century performances; I left the 19th-century performances undisambiguated for now, as that may require specialized knowledge/research). Softlavender (talk) 23:32, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Softlavender, thanks. I do know about that, and try to catch every instance. the only issue I had was in the period 1833-1835, when it appears there wasn't a theater of this name in London (Her Majesty's Theatre wasn't called this until 1837, and Scala Theatre was called the Fitzroy Theatre during this period. But thanks for the reminder, when doing Dab work, I think the record is 27 on a list article for something or other. Onel5969 TT me 23:55, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for all your help! I started the task last night but it got too overwhelming to do them all. Thanks again, Softlavender (talk) 00:03, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Softlavender, Thanks for all you do as well. I think the worst one I got involved in was something like 1700 or 1800 links. What makes ones like this tricky is that the redirect to Sondheim Theatre created lots of dabs, and then you find out how many of them were incorrect links. Probably 50 or 60 of my fixes were not to the Sondheim theater. Onel5969 TT me 00:11, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, why don't we outlaw naming anything "Queen's Theatre"; that would save Wikipedians lots of trouble and lots of mistakes! Or, perhaps the whole mess could have been avoided if the West End "Queen's" had had a parenthetical like "(West End)", and "Queen's Theatre" had always been a dab page. That way the DABbot would have caught most of what needed to be fixed. BTW, you might want to look through my "fix dab" contribs prior to my first message to you here, to make sure I didn't improperly link the wrong theatre to the Sondheim. The first one I did was "Patrick Garland", so every "fix dab" up from there. Softlavender (talk) 00:22, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Softlavender, sorry I haven't responded earlier... been dealing with the tail end of Covid, and, well... How would I check on your "fix dab"? I went to your contributions, put "fix dab" in the tag filter, and it came up zero. I'm a bit flummoxed. Onel5969 TT me 02:02, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, why don't we outlaw naming anything "Queen's Theatre"; that would save Wikipedians lots of trouble and lots of mistakes! Or, perhaps the whole mess could have been avoided if the West End "Queen's" had had a parenthetical like "(West End)", and "Queen's Theatre" had always been a dab page. That way the DABbot would have caught most of what needed to be fixed. BTW, you might want to look through my "fix dab" contribs prior to my first message to you here, to make sure I didn't improperly link the wrong theatre to the Sondheim. The first one I did was "Patrick Garland", so every "fix dab" up from there. Softlavender (talk) 00:22, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Softlavender, Thanks for all you do as well. I think the worst one I got involved in was something like 1700 or 1800 links. What makes ones like this tricky is that the redirect to Sondheim Theatre created lots of dabs, and then you find out how many of them were incorrect links. Probably 50 or 60 of my fixes were not to the Sondheim theater. Onel5969 TT me 00:11, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for all your help! I started the task last night but it got too overwhelming to do them all. Thanks again, Softlavender (talk) 00:03, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Don't use a tool or gadget or tag filter. Go to my contribs, do Control+F fix dab, and you'll see 61 of them in my edit summaries. (The very first one I did is Patrick Garland, however my edit summary for that one was just dab.) I hope that makes sense. Wow, I'm hoping your case of Covid was not too serious! Take care of yourself and be well! Softlavender (talk) 02:49, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- Softlavender, oh... sometimes the simplest ways are the best. Onel5969 TT me 23:23, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- Don't use a tool or gadget or tag filter. Go to my contribs, do Control+F fix dab, and you'll see 61 of them in my edit summaries. (The very first one I did is Patrick Garland, however my edit summary for that one was just dab.) I hope that makes sense. Wow, I'm hoping your case of Covid was not too serious! Take care of yourself and be well! Softlavender (talk) 02:49, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, thanks, I appreciate your doing that. Thanks very much for the Christmas greeting; I hope you are having a good Christmas yourself. Take care, and wishing you a very good New Year. Softlavender (talk) 03:05, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
List of people from The Woodlands, Texas
I'm going to say it again- Both Trevor Bauer and Codi Heuer live in The Woodlands. Bauer has stated this a couple of times on his Twitter page that he does, while Heuer has The Woodlands in his Instagram bio. Not to mention that Bauer has his name under a house in Alden Bridge, a village of The Woodlands. I have given you multiple sources and yet you continue to revert my edits. Please refrain from doing this again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haydoggy (talk • contribs) 01:32, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- Learn the rules. Nothing on their pages links them to the Woodlands. You're about to be blocked from editing. Desist. And don't post on my talk page again, unless it's an apology. Onel5969 TT me 01:35, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
Anna Maria Krasnowolska
"The publication of an anniversary or memorial journal volume or a Festschrift dedicated to a particular person is usually enough to satisfy Criterion 1." (references of the article). Ali Pirhayati (talk) 16:02, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
Dablinks: now at ANI
Hi, I know you don't want me to post here, but I have to: I've started WP:ANI#Onel5969 and dablinks. – Uanfala (talk) 19:53, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
Saru (Star Trek)
Hello, you reverted Saru (Star Trek) to a redirect for a reason I did not full understand. Saru is a main character in a 3+ season Star Trek franchise series and I believe an article on the character is merited. What is the proper place to register my opinion on the matter? DGtal (talk) 23:07, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
This Man (album)
Hi there. I noticed you reverted the page for This Man (album) that I recently completed back into a redirect page. I checked the notability guidelines and I am not quite understanding how you interpret this page to not fit these requirements. There were 8 sources provided and I can add more. Additionally, this will require me to find and revert my edits that linked to the new page which is unfortunate. Yeehaw45 (talk) 02:31, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- You will notice I have added some sources in order to better fit the notability guidelines and reverted your edit. Please do let me know if this is an issue. Yeehaw45 (talk) 03:04, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
tag from Jorge Gisbert, which you proposed for deletion. The status of the Barcelona tournament in 1969 is not clear to me (or to most tennis fans), so the subject may in fact pass WP:NTENNIS as he played in the main draw there.. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}}
back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! Iffy★Chat -- 12:02, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Iffy, hi. That seems to be a pretty good reason to remove the prod. I'll leave it in the queue for now and let another reviewer take a whack at it. Thanks for very cogent explanation. Onel5969 TT me 12:06, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
Article: Fuxiaotian
Hi there. I noticed that you recently moved my article "Fu Xiaotian" into draft space. As requested, I have disclosed my employee on my personal page. Please let me know what else I can do get it up again. Thanks so much!
- You've done all you can. It's in the queue to be reviewed, if an AfC reviewer approves it, it will be moved back into mainspace. Onel5969 TT me 13:18, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
Nomination of Fivemile Landing, Arizona for deletion
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fivemile Landing, Arizona until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
Nomination of Harris, Arizona for deletion
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harris, Arizona until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
Merry Christmas
Seems like a strange thing to be saying in these times, but what the hell. This year has been so shit for everyone, thanks for doing what you do through all this. Here's hoping for a light at the end of the tunnel - cheers GirthSummit (blether) 20:13, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Girth Summit, thank you so much... especially since one of the wikihounds which led to my leaving last January has just recently decided to get back at it. Hope you are keeping safe, and thanks for all you do on the project. Merry Christmas. Onel5969 TT me 11:52, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi! I have a question. Why have you retired my editions? I wanted to make an article about the Polish actor with that name.
Greetings, Pitachu (talk) 11:33, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- Pitachu, hi. As I said in the edit summary, it was wholly uncited, and virtually completely empty. Onel5969 TT me 11:50, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
And could I restore edits and further edit? I'm on the phone and had to save because it would delete my edits. Greetings, Pitachu (talk) 12:00, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- Pitachu, if you want to work on the article, you could do it in draftspace, and then submit it through the AfC process, which I would recommend. I could move it to draft for you. Onel5969 TT me 12:09, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
And how to do it? I do not understand this. Regards, Pitachu (talk) 12:21, 22 December 2020 (UTC).
- Pitachu, Have moved it to draft, so you can work on, and left a message on your talkpage. Hope this works for you. Onel5969 TT me 12:38, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
Tagging
Hi Onel5969. Thank you for taking the time to tag all those pages for speedy del. Have a good Christmas. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 14:53, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- Lugnuts, no worries... folks getting around bans/blocks is one of my bugaboos... turns out I reviewed quite a few of them initially, go figure. You have a very Merry Christmas yourself, and thanks for all you do on the project. Onel5969 TT me 14:56, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
Thank you
Thanks a million Sir/Ma'am for the reviews that you gave on my four different articles.
Your reviews really means a lot and thanks for always being a pillar of support for me through them. Once again, thanks a lot Sir/Madam! --Aleyamma38 (talk) 17:12, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- Aleyamma38, no worries. Keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 12:25, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- Onel5969 Merry X'mas :) --Aleyamma38 (talk) 17:15, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
Why?
Why did you remove my article on POLAC even after adding source? Humanbeinginwiki00 (talk) 12:22, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- Humanbeinginwiki00, adding a ref, particularly a primary source, doesn't come close to showing notability. Please see WP:GNG, RP:RS. Onel5969 TT me 12:24, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Merry Merry!
★Trekker (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Don't eat yellow snow!
Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:Flaming/MC2008}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
- Treker - Very Merry Christmas to you as well. Onel5969 TT me 00:07, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas Onel5969 | |
Hi Onel5969, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas |
Thank you so much Davey2010 - Very Merry Christmas to you as well. Onel5969 TT me 00:07, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Yo Ho Ho
Donner60 (talk) is wishing a foaming mug of Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!
Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec20}} to your friends' talk pages.
- Thank you so much for the wishes, Donner60 - hope you're having a safe and happy holiday season. Onel5969 TT me 01:54, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Doomsdayer520. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Donegall Quay, and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.
(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)
---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:46, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- Doomsdayer520, hi. Any particular reason? Onel5969 TT me 15:49, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- A total accident, as we were both looking at the page at the same time. I marked it as re-re-reviewed. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:59, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- Doomsdayer520, thanks. I thought that was what happened (as several of the articles I was reviewing, you marked reviewed while I was still in the process), but wanted to make sure I hadn't missed something. BTW, saw your note on the creator's talk page. I agree with it, but in my BEFORE, there appeared to be just enough in-depth coverage to pass GNG. Onel5969 TT me 16:08, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- A total accident, as we were both looking at the page at the same time. I marked it as re-re-reviewed. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:59, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Rosguill. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Saratoga (band), and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.
(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)
signed, Rosguill talk 19:28, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- Not your fault at all here, you reviewed a redirect with an RfD tag on it, after which an editor restored the article without waiting for the discussion outcome, but the reviewed flag didn't reset. signed, Rosguill talk 19:30, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- Rosguill, thanks for the explanation. Onel5969 TT me 19:56, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
This is wishing you a merry Christmas and a prosperous new year. Have a good one my friend. Celestina007 (talk) 21:01, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- Celestina007, thank you! Right back at you. Onel5969 TT me 01:54, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Yo Ho Ho
ϢereSpielChequers is wishing a foaming mug of Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!
Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec20}} to your friends' talk pages.
- Thank you for the warm wishes. Hope you're having a wonderful holiday. Onel5969 TT me 01:55, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Happy XMAS
- Thank you Coolabahapple - hope you're staying safe and warm... and full. Onel5969 TT me 01:58, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Happy holidays
This year, many people had COVID to fear,
The holidays are getting near,
One thing that will be clear,
We will still have holiday cheer,
Happy holidays and happy new year!!
From Interstellarity (talk) 22:56, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- Interstellarity, thank you for the lovely rhyme! Stay safe and happy. Onel5969 TT me 01:58, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!
Joyeux Noël! ~ Buon Natale! ~ Vrolijk Kerstfeest! ~ Frohe Weihnachten!
¡Feliz Navidad! ~ Feliz Natal! ~ Καλά Χριστούγεννα! ~ Hyvää Joulua!
God Jul! ~ Glædelig Jul! ~ Linksmų Kalėdų! ~ Priecīgus Ziemassvētkus!
Häid Jõule! ~ Wesołych Świąt! ~ Boldog Karácsonyt! ~ Veselé Vánoce!
Veselé Vianoce! ~ Crăciun Fericit! ~ Sretan Božić! ~ С Рождеством!
শুভ বড়দিন! ~ 圣诞节快乐!~ メリークリスマス!~ 메리 크리스마스!
สุขสันต์วันคริสต์มาส! ~ Selamat Hari Natal! ~ Giáng sinh an lành!
Hello, Onel5969! Thank you for your work to maintain and improve Wikipedia! Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Linguist111talk 22:58, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- Spread the WikiLove and leave other users this message by adding {{subst:Multi-language Season's Greetings}}
- Linguist111, thank you so much ... hope you're had a wonderful Christmas! Onel5969 TT me 01:59, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Happy Xmas
Atlantic306 (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!
Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas2}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
- Thank you Atlantic306, hope you had a lovely Christmas! Onel5969 TT me 02:01, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Greetings
Yo Ho Ho
GenQuest "scribble" 04:40, 25 December 2020 (UTC) is wishing a foaming mug of Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!
Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec20}} to your friends' talk pages.
- Thank you for well wishes, GenQuest. Hope you're having a wonderful holiday season. Onel5969 TT me 02:02, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Happy Holidays!
Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2021! | |
Hello Onel5969, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2021. Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages. |
- Thank you for the warm wishes, LorriBrown - hope you had a wonderful Christmas! Onel5969 TT me 02:03, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2021! | |
Hi Onel5969, I send you warm wishes to you and your family throughout the holiday season. May your heart and home be filled with all of the joys the festive season brings. Here is a toast to a Merry Christmas and prosperous New Year!. scope_creepTalk 11:42, 25 December 2020 (UTC) |
- Thank you scope_creep - the same to you, and thank you for all you do on WP. Onel5969 TT me 02:04, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Happy holidays
File:Christmas tree decorations 5.jpg | Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2021! |
|
- Thank you for the wishes Cassiopeia, the same to you, and thank you for all your hard work on WP. Onel5969 TT me 02:06, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Do not embarrass yourself
I am fully against your revdel proposal. It was me who wrote 95% of the 2021 U-20 World Cup article (including the part on that BLOG), which I then copied to the 2023 as the process is the same. You think that the website was copied to WP? It is the other way around. Please check the revision history of the 2021 FIFA U-20 World Cup to prove my claims. And FYI, that was posted on 8 October 2020, WAY AFTER I wrote those. I know you are an avid activist on this but do not embarrass yourself by claiming something based on some blatant copy-pasted blog post. Flix11 (talk) 12:46, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- Flix11, and please don't embarrass yourself by leaving uncivil and somewhat ignorant comments on users' talkpages. If you copied from another article, you must provide attribution to that article. You've made enough edits that you should be aware of that. See WP:COPYWITHIN. There is no way I would know that you copied from another article without that attribution. In case you don't understand that, I've added the attribution for you. Onel5969 TT me 12:56, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- OK, thank you for the WP:COPYWITHIN, I learnt something new actually. Sorry as I was quite emotional. Cheers. Flix11 (talk) 12:59, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- Flix11, no worries. That happens to the best of us. Have a very Merry Christmas. Onel5969 TT me 13:03, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- Merry Christmas too :) Flix11 (talk) 14:25, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- Flix11, no worries. That happens to the best of us. Have a very Merry Christmas. Onel5969 TT me 13:03, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- OK, thank you for the WP:COPYWITHIN, I learnt something new actually. Sorry as I was quite emotional. Cheers. Flix11 (talk) 12:59, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
Today's the Day!!
|
- Thanks for the gift of humor on Christmas! Hope you had a wonderful day. And thank you for all you do as well. Onel5969 TT me 02:07, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Regarding Page
Hi Onel5969
The tag you put to delete the page was not correct in my point of view because Raybak Abdesselem has won medals for his country and according to WP Athletes he is passing the notability that is why i created this page, on other hand there are many pages of karate champion who have same amount of references and won same kinds of title and they have the wikipedia page. For example: Ali_Fadakar Mehdi_Amouzadeh Saleh_Abazari Hamoun_Derafshipour Bahman_Asgari
All karateka players have same amount of references, i have added one news source and will add more in french as i don't understand french, i shall be thankful if you could reverse your decision, otherwise 30 to 40 karate player pages will be deleted from Wikipedia.
--CGOV (talk) 14:43, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
You should check these WP:NGYMNASTICS WP:NGYMNAST instead of WP:NSPORTS
--CGOV (talk) 08:59, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
- CGOV, he's not a gymnast. Onel5969 TT me 13:59, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
- Onel5969 He is an athlete and karate comes in gymnastics. Before you there was an administrator who was working on this page, before creating the Wiki i asked from 3 people about the authencity.
--CGOV (talk) 14:15, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
- CGOV, no, Karate doesn't come under gymnastics. Not sure where you got that idea. Regardless, a deletion discussion is underway, so consensus will be reached eventually. Onel5969 TT me 14:30, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
- I didn't but 3 administrators told me that you can look it up by searching for the logs. one of the people who is an editor and patroller says this comes under the athlete category and the same I was told by them is now in French Wikipedia. Anyways, you should put tags on these articles as well as you're doing this with many. Ali_Fadakar Mehdi_Amouzadeh Saleh_Abazari Hamoun_Derafshipour Bahman_Asgari
--CGOV (talk) 14:35, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Merry Christmas !
Merry Yuletide to you! (And a happy new year!) .CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 15:01, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- CAPTAIN RAJU, thank you so much for the warm wishes... hoping you're having a wonderful holiday season! Onel5969 TT me 02:10, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Merry Christmas !
Hi,, can you see this article and help me History of Baghdad 1831-1917,,, thank you ,,,Hamaredha (talk) 15:54, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hamaredha, Not sure what you need help with on that article. Other than the one slight edit I made, is that what you wanted? If not, please be a tad more specific in how you need help. And belated Merry Christmas to you as well. Onel5969 TT me 14:04, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much ,,,Hamaredha (talk) 14:36, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Christmas greeting
The Angel Heart Barnstar | ||
Thank you for your wonderful message on my Talk Page, it really brightened my day. I hope you had a Merry Christmas, and best wishes for the new year. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle (talk) 22:23, 25 December 2020 (UTC) |
- You're welcome. And thank you for all you do on WP. Keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 02:10, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
History of Rock Tour
Hello, I noticed you deleted a page that was still a work in progress and relinked it to Kid Rock why did you do that? User:thomasthedarkenguine (talk) 13:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thomasthedarkenguine, as stated in the edit summary, it did not meet WP:NTOUR. The place to work on articles is in draftspace, not the mainspace. Onel5969 TT me 22:46, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Little Bob Story - refimprove
Hi, you placed a refimprove tag on the Little Bob Story article, will you be monitoring the page so you would remove the tag once it has enough refs, or if not, could you please let me know how refs would be ok for you? The page currently has 14 refs. Thanks, Rob. Robman94 (talk) 18:20, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
- Robman94, it's not so much how many refs there are, but was is or is not referenced. In looking at your improvements, feel free to remove my tag. Nice job. Onel5969 TT me 18:35, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi, you reverted Cuman–Kipchak confederation to redirect to Cumania, why? Because the amount was too small?
Cumania should deal only with the geographic region "Cumania". The confederation, that is a different concept from the region, should be dealt with in a separate article (Cuman–Kipchak confederation). Many other languages' Wiki pages that link Cumania deal with only the region (or grassland). For example, Chinese wiki has another article dealing with the confederation (zh:庫曼汗國). The saparate article Cuman–Kipchak confederation is necessary.--ABCEdit (talk) 01:06, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- ABCEdit, because it was virtually uncited (Quora is not a valid source), and it was covered in the target. Onel5969 TT me 01:24, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Happy Holidays
Everything is Going to be Alright, Martin Creed, 2015.
|
Omar Al-Saadoun
Hi , please wait , don't delet this article . He was very famous activity human rights in Iraq . You can sure that and search him in google . I wait your answer ,,,Hamaredha (talk) 14:05, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hamaredha, hi. Sorry, I don't see it that way. Feel free to contest the prod... Onel5969 TT me 14:52, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- You can put his name in google and see ,, he was very famous in iraq and he killed during protests . Please don't delete this article and wait ,, Hamaredha (talk) 14:59, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Purple Numbers
Hello, regarding "Purple numbers" - it looks like we have completely lost information about the subject in the redirected-to article. Pointing it there make no sense anymore. I was looking for information regarding "purple numbers" and was surprised to end up on Doug Engelbart's biography. What to do then? I have found some additional information (among others, one more implementation of the idea), and there is no place to add it now. « Saper // @talk » 14:15, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- In the meantime, I have filed for deletion review of this article. Thank you! « Saper // @talk » 14:53, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- Saper, my suggestion would be to add that information to Engelbart's page, that would make the redirect valid, and give reader's the info you found.Onel5969 TT me 14:54, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- And DRV is not to rehash AfD discussions, simply to contest that an AfD was closed incorrectly. Onel5969 TT me 14:55, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- Saper, my suggestion would be to add that information to Engelbart's page, that would make the redirect valid, and give reader's the info you found.Onel5969 TT me 14:54, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Upload Image
Hello. There is some problem to uploading this image, from Steam, under the condition of fair use for the article Out of Space? I never did that on enwiki. Best regards. ✍A.WagnerC (talk) 21:50, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- A.WagnerC, it could be a copyright issue. I can't find the source it comes from to ascertain the copyright status. Usually you shouldn't add copyrighted images to WP (and you can never add them on Commons), but there are certain instances where you can. You can learn about it more at Wikipedia:Non-free content. Sorry I wasn't more help. Onel5969 TT me 22:41, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- I will try to contact the developers. Usually they don't respond 😃... but it doesn't hurt to try. Thank you very much. ✍A.WagnerC (talk) 23:59, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Nomination of Are You Ready (Hannah Montana song) for deletion
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Are You Ready (Hannah Montana song) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
Why did you revert the conversion of this redirect into a proper article? If you look at the interwiki, there is a bigger article in another language, therefore a proper reference article in enwiki would be helpful. Sergei Gutnikov (talk) 02:12, 29 December 2020 (UTC)