Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fight Night (TV programme)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was merge to The Big Fight Live. BD2412 T 14:40, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
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No evidence this radio programme meets WP:NMEDIA/GNG. Prod declined with a suggestion of merging, but no target was specified. Further, the current two sentence substub is unreferenced, so there is no referenced content to merge (WP:V). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:25, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:25, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 15:38, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 15:40, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
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- Merge When you had read the article, you could have seen that it was a program of ITV (TV network), a valid merge-option. The Banner talk 14:14, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Merging into ITV (TV network) doesn't make sense: the "Programming" section lists only a handful of the most notable shows, with few details. Listing on List of television programmes broadcast by ITV might make sense, but that article really is just a list of names of shows, and in any case the majority are shows with Wikipedia articles (and therefore independently notable). YorkshireLad (talk) 00:17, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
- Merge As it stands this article fails just about every Wikipedia guideline. However it was a long standing programme and I think some mention of it should be made somewhere, maybe within The Big Fight Live article. Rillington (talk) 14:07, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Long-running TV programme on a major network. Merging to ITV makes no sense whatsoever. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:36, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- Long running... on a major network: not a criteria for WP:NMEDIA/GNG. Still unreferenced. Can you help find references to save this? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:54, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- Piotrus: WP:NTV says, "Generally, an individual radio or television program is likely to be notable if it airs on a network of radio or television stations (either national or regional in scope), or on a cable television channel with a broad regional or national audience." -- Toughpigs (talk) 15:33, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- Likely is not 100%. And in any case, it means that there are likely to be sources and such. Which we need to find. There is no automatic notability presumed for such entities. See also WP:BCASTOUTCOMES. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:49, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
- But is also not states that an unsourced article is automatically non-notable and should be removed. The Banner talk 10:06, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
- Which is why we have this very discussion to discuss whether it shoudl or shouldn't go. All is good in the world. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:34, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- But is also not states that an unsourced article is automatically non-notable and should be removed. The Banner talk 10:06, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
- Likely is not 100%. And in any case, it means that there are likely to be sources and such. Which we need to find. There is no automatic notability presumed for such entities. See also WP:BCASTOUTCOMES. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:49, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
- Piotrus: WP:NTV says, "Generally, an individual radio or television program is likely to be notable if it airs on a network of radio or television stations (either national or regional in scope), or on a cable television channel with a broad regional or national audience." -- Toughpigs (talk) 15:33, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- Long running... on a major network: not a criteria for WP:NMEDIA/GNG. Still unreferenced. Can you help find references to save this? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:54, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- Comment To be clear I am advocating merging the article into The Big Fight Live article and not to ITV (TV network). As Necrothesp says, this was a long-running TV programme on a major network but as Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus says, it is unreferenced and I think it would be highly unlikely that there are any suitable references as the programme ended many years ago. This is why the article should be merged into the The Big Fight Live article so that some mention of it can be made on Wikipedia. Rillington (talk) 17:36, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- I can live with that. The Banner talk 17:45, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- It is a better merge target, but we still have one fundamental problem: no referenced content to merge. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:32, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- Exactly, which is why I think that the best outcome would be for Fight Night to be briefly mentioned within The Big Fight Live article. Rillington (talk) 14:10, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- Delete The subject fails WP:GNG and, even more importantly, WP:VERIFY. There is no verifiable content to merge. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 08:02, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- Merge to The Big Fight Live. gidonb (talk) 13:54, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
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