- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. —freak(talk) 00:15, Aug. 23, 2006 (UTC)
Team in the "Brooklyn Kickball League". NN, obviously. NawlinWiki 13:33, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, can i ask what NN means? 62.232.8.43
- Non-notable. Icewolf34 13:35, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Is this enough evidence yet that saying "NN" and using other unnecessary jargon instead of actually explaining why we plan to delete someone's work is a Bad Thing? fuddlemark (befuddle me!) 13:41, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Would an article on the league itself still be nn? Or perhaps a section referring to the league added to the Kickball entry?
- That depends. Has anyone famous ever played in the league? Does it receive a good deal of press coverage? Is it well-known outside of Brooklyn? Does it play at a professional level? If the answer to one or more of these is yes, it might be notable. Please read WP:BIO and WP:NOT for more guidelines. Srose (talk) 13:39, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, I'm going to put in delete, but I'd like to comment on the above. I highly doubt the league itself is notable as far as Wikipedia is concerned; the 40 total (and 20 unique) Google hits do not confirm much significance. With that said, the league's web page is well done, the league looks like a lot of fun, McCarren Park is a beautiful place (I saw Yeah Yeah Yeahs and Sonic Youth at the pool there last week), and one of the teams is named KYBSY, which I can only assume stands for Kick Your Balls Say Yeah. So, while the article on this team (and any subsequent league-related articles) will almost certainly be deleted, I wish the best to the league and its players. -- Kicking222 13:58, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, you would figure someone with the username "Kicking222" would like kickball. ;) NawlinWiki 14:54, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- LOL, I'd honestly not thought of that. I never see myself as "Kicking222, computer user!", but as "Mike, happy-go-lucky 21-year-old!" For the record, my username comes from my love of soccer, but it is safe to say that I also enjoy kickball a great deal (in fact, it may be the only sport I'm truly good at). -- Kicking222 16:39, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, you would figure someone with the username "Kicking222" would like kickball. ;) NawlinWiki 14:54, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - article fails WP:V as it does not cite any reliable sources. WilyD 14:21, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - lack of notability. John Smith's 14:56, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The non-notability of "Brooklyn Kickball League" is not sufficient enough reason to propose deletion as laid out in point #1 under Articles on the Criteria for Speedy Deletion page. Though the entry for "Killa Killa" may be "limited in content" its position within the "Brooklyn Kickball League" should provide it with the necessary context to "allow expansion." The Brooklyn Kickball League, therefore, could very well be notable and users should be allowed to demonstrate its notability with the ability to expand Killa Killa's heretofore prescribed definition. Especially if these cats bring home the trophy in September. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WickaSticka (talk • contribs)
- That's criteria for speedy deletion, which we can all agree are inappropriate here. However, this regular deletion is mandated by WP:V, so the issue is rather academic. WilyD 17:20, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, a challenge for deletion through "Deletion of Vanity Articles" [[1]] would probably be more "academic" for an entry about a local Kickball team named after a Dipset reference than demanding a reference for the Brooklyn Kickball League which you'll probably find in an upcoming issue of Time Out New York. But I guess until that hits the newstands I'll defer to your condescending, albeit accurate, point that guidelines under the rubric of speedy deletion are not appropriate for this discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WickaSticka (talk • contribs)
- The nomination was poorly phrased. Why people are so reluctant to bust out WP:V when it's obviously appropriate is beyond me. WilyD 17:53, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, a challenge for deletion through "Deletion of Vanity Articles" [[1]] would probably be more "academic" for an entry about a local Kickball team named after a Dipset reference than demanding a reference for the Brooklyn Kickball League which you'll probably find in an upcoming issue of Time Out New York. But I guess until that hits the newstands I'll defer to your condescending, albeit accurate, point that guidelines under the rubric of speedy deletion are not appropriate for this discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WickaSticka (talk • contribs)
- That's criteria for speedy deletion, which we can all agree are inappropriate here. However, this regular deletion is mandated by WP:V, so the issue is rather academic. WilyD 17:20, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The non-notability of "Brooklyn Kickball League" is not sufficient enough reason to propose deletion as laid out in point #1 under Articles on the Criteria for Speedy Deletion page. Though the entry for "Killa Killa" may be "limited in content" its position within the "Brooklyn Kickball League" should provide it with the necessary context to "allow expansion." The Brooklyn Kickball League, therefore, could very well be notable and users should be allowed to demonstrate its notability with the ability to expand Killa Killa's heretofore prescribed definition. Especially if these cats bring home the trophy in September. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WickaSticka (talk • contribs)
- Delete You know me Wily! I'll bust out WP:V on most AfDs ;). In fact, let me bust out my favorite saying: Wikipedia does not keep articles based on if they are interesting or not. Wikipedia's three content policies are Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:No original research and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Jointly, these policies determine the type and quality of material that is acceptable in the main namespace. Because the three policies are complementary, they should not be interpreted in isolation from one another, and editors should therefore try to familiarize themselves with all three. These three policies are non-negotiable and cannot be superseded by other policies or guidelines, or by editors' consensus So if you believe it should be kept, please provide a reason that these pillars of the wiki community should be put asside for this one article. --Brian (How am I doing?) 18:03, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - unverifyable group in a sport of insufficient significance. Far too small and local to get it's own article - Peripitus (Talk) 01:43, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.