Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/No More Tears (EP)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus with leave to speedy renominate. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:43, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Non-notable promotional recording. Cannibaloki 18:28, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:50, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - I strongly recommend a more detailed deletion rationale from the nominator. "Non-notable promotional recordings" does not apply to all the items in the extensive list, some of which were officially released singles. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 18:16, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Can you prove if these singles were officially released?--Cannibaloki 22:51, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- AllMusic (see here) lists "Concrete Jungle" as an officially released single. "Stiilborn," "House of Doom," "Fire It Up," "In This River," "Suicide Messiah," and "Concrete Jungle" are listed as having reached pretty high in the Billboard Rock charts (even though some of the others besides "Concrete Jungle" may not have been *physical* single releases). Therefore, each of those songs has achieved a certain amount of notability that MIGHT merit separate WP articles. If you think those particular songs are not notable enough for their own articles, you might have a good point but your rationale needs to be far more specific for each individual title. This mass AfD is illegitimate because it uses one blanket rationale that is not even close to applicable across the board. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 17:54, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Meanwhile, believe it or not I happen to agree with the original deletion argument for the first item listed at the top, the "No More Tears" EP. I might have voted to delete that particular article if it was in a singular AfD. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 17:57, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I still think most of these singles are non-notable, but I removed them according your instructions.--Cannibaloki 15:30, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- It would certainly be possible for you to initiate more specific AfD's for those other songs and see what happens. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 16:41, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Meanwhile, believe it or not I happen to agree with the original deletion argument for the first item listed at the top, the "No More Tears" EP. I might have voted to delete that particular article if it was in a singular AfD. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 17:57, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- AllMusic (see here) lists "Concrete Jungle" as an officially released single. "Stiilborn," "House of Doom," "Fire It Up," "In This River," "Suicide Messiah," and "Concrete Jungle" are listed as having reached pretty high in the Billboard Rock charts (even though some of the others besides "Concrete Jungle" may not have been *physical* single releases). Therefore, each of those songs has achieved a certain amount of notability that MIGHT merit separate WP articles. If you think those particular songs are not notable enough for their own articles, you might have a good point but your rationale needs to be far more specific for each individual title. This mass AfD is illegitimate because it uses one blanket rationale that is not even close to applicable across the board. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 17:54, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Can you prove if these singles were officially released?--Cannibaloki 22:51, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Them being released officially or not has nothing to do with it really. Some bootleg songs out there have notability amongst them, it just depends on the song and the people who have heard it. I have not done any research on these so I don't really have a good stance to vote yes or no, but if I was you, I'd break this AfD into smaller parts, so each article can get a good amount of attention. Undead Warrior (talk) 02:29, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply] - The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.