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Thanks for your assistance. [[Special:Contributions/2A02:908:1C24:5700:3816:3DE:CFAB:9321|2A02:908:1C24:5700:3816:3DE:CFAB:9321]] ([[User talk:2A02:908:1C24:5700:3816:3DE:CFAB:9321|talk]]) 09:00, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for your assistance. [[Special:Contributions/2A02:908:1C24:5700:3816:3DE:CFAB:9321|2A02:908:1C24:5700:3816:3DE:CFAB:9321]] ([[User talk:2A02:908:1C24:5700:3816:3DE:CFAB:9321|talk]]) 09:00, 26 July 2024 (UTC)


:Thanks for reviewing once again. The draft is now in rewritten in an encyclopedic format. The are more informations now and the text has a better order. Several screens were added. Any further guidance on improving the draft would be much appreciated. [[Special:Contributions/212.29.33.164|212.29.33.164]] ([[User talk:212.29.33.164|talk]]) 11:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
:Thanks for reviewing once again. The draft is now in rewritten in an encyclopedic format. The are more information now and the text has a better order. Several screens were added. Any further guidance on improving the draft would be much appreciated. [[Special:Contributions/212.29.33.164|212.29.33.164]] ([[User talk:212.29.33.164|talk]]) 11:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)


== Request on 09:46:21, 26 July 2024 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by Klighed ==
== Request on 09:46:21, 26 July 2024 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by Klighed ==

Revision as of 11:49, 5 August 2024



    The world was created for all.

    No one is perfect even AI's do mis fault. Stay cool, just alert me and I will see it off!

    — SafariScribe

    If you are here just to castigated me (I know there shouldn't be "d", so it's a mistake; fix it yourself), please don't come here. Find anywhere in your talk page, then ping me for opinion. Welcome to my talk page, and ask questions as you will answer when it's thrown to you. I have no other account and have never edited for any payment whatsoever.

    Chris Stark draft

    Hi @SafariScribe, my draft article on Chris Stark, the UK's new head of net zero was declined. Which is fine. Before I go and edit though, I'd like to be clear on what the issue was specifically. Grateful if you could give me a steer :-)

    Leaving aside Wikipedia's notability and referencing policies for a second, I am assuming that his notability is not objectively in question. He has been named the new UK Labour government's Net Zero czar by the Energy Security Secretary, one of Ed Miliband's first (if not *the* first) appointments since he has come into office. Stark was the subject of an official announcement on GOV.UK. He is one of the UK's leading experts on climate change, and was previously the CEO of the UK government's Climate Change Committee – the UK's main authority on climate change – for 6 years.

    If he is not notable, then we need to talk about at least 20% of Wikipedia, who have got past the notability test. For example, how is it different to the article on Tom Delay, who absolutely should have an article on Wikipedia, but whose referencing is very similar. It sometimes feels this rule is not consistently applied (or maybe hasn't been in the past)?

    So, to come back to my question, is the issue that the sources were not credible? The Guardian is a tier 1 newspaper, GOV.UK is the government's website, Business Green and Renewable Energy Magazine are credible trade publications, and Carbon Trust and the Climate Change Committee are reputable organisations. I thought this would easily clear the WP:THREE test, but I can accept that:

    > Carbon Trust and the Climate Change Committee – though reliable sources in other contexts – might be considered too close to the subject.

    > Business Green and Renewable Energy Magazine – though credible trade publications might not be well known outside the sector of energy and sustainability.

    If that is the case, this is useful to know. So is it a case of one or two more Guardian-level references? That's ok – there are loads more articles that talk about Stark's work, from the FT, The Guardian, the New Statesman, the BBC. I just don't want to waste my time! :-) KTnow (talk) 13:46, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @SafariScribe Any thoughts on this? Thanks in advance! KTnow (talk) 16:43, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Question about sources for declined translated page

    @SafariScribe Hello there, and thanks for checking out my draft Draft:Sossio_Giametta so promptly. I have the same question as a few other people here - I don't quite understand what more sources would be needed. I used very prestigious and independent Italian newspapers and the Italian BBC. Could you please explain what the problem is? Bravenewworld1984 (talk) 08:27, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Dear @Bravenewworld1984,
    Having an article about a translator is a not bad, but it's important to remember they are also considered like writers. Your draft appears to lack the sources a possible complete WP:BLP should have, which, as you know, is stricter on the English Wikipedia than on other Wikipedias. Welp, you should also add identifiers for the books, such as the ISBN, Google Books URL, or a citation where he was credited as the translator. These are essential for verification. Cheers. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:01, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you @SafariScribefor getting back to me so promptly. I have added all ISBNs and inserted Giametta's works as a translator as separate from his authored ones. Also, just a minor note - it's not a bio of a living person but of a dead one as he passed in January this year. Best :-) Bravenewworld1984 (talk) 10:16, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Can you help me understand why you rejected my draft for Linda Rabbitt?

    Hi @SafariScribe, I left a couple of questions for you on my Talk page, and I thought I'd follow-up here on your Talk page. :) I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you. Sincerely, BlueRoses13 (talk) 15:18, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I am sorry for the delay @BlueRoses13, I will follow up as soon as possible. Thanks. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:03, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @SafariScribe That would be great — thank you. Sincerely, BlueRoses13 (talk) 12:27, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @SafariScribe So sorry to continue pestering you. I left a long reply to you in WikiProject Articles for Creation on July 26, but then I received a notification that this thread was no longer active. Here's the message:
    Topic "10:44, 25 July 2024 review of submission by BlueRos..." was archived or removed from Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk.
    You might no longer receive notifications about this topic.
    So, I'm not sure how to proceed. I absolutely want to be patient. After all, you're volunteering your time, and I know your plate is full with AfC. At the same time, I want to make sure my follow-up doesn't get lost in the shuffle.
    So:
    1. Would you like me to just go ahead and resubmit the draft?
    2. Would you like more time to reply to my reply?
    3. Should I do something else?
    Please let me know whatever is best; I'm eager for your guidance and wisdom.
    Thanks so much!
    Sincerely,
    BlueRoses13 (talk) 12:51, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    July thanks

    story · music · places

    Thank you for improving article quality in July! - Today's story is about a photographer who took iconic pictures, especially View from Williamsburg, Brooklyn, on Manhattan, 9/11, yesterday's was a great mezzo, and on Thursday we watched a sublime ballerina. If that's not enough my talk offers chamber music from two amazing concerts. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:24, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    A look at music today: three musician women remembered there, - a sad record. The Main page also has a Mozart symphony I love. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:36, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Review declined

    Draft:Sovereign_Gold_Bond

    I have listed multiple sources, I can easily show a 100 articles from top new sites about the scheme.

    A google search would have shown that the there are thousand of articles and videos on this topic. Skratata69 (talk) 21:21, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi @SafariScribe
    I have added articles from the most reliable sources in my country and as agreed upon on Wikipedia. (The Hindu / WP:THEHINDU and The Times of India / WP:TOI). Please have a look at the draft again when you are free. Skratata69 (talk) 20:26, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 21:46:25, 20 July 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Scrobum


    Hi @SafariScribe! Thanks for reviewing, this is my first Wikipedia article submission so bear with me. Think this meets all necessary criteria for notability, have found other existing pages for films with less of a footprint. Wondering if the issue is overuse of aggregate-style sources? If not, please let me know what I can change!

    Scrobum (talk) 21:46, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    UPDATED @SafariScribe -- I took another look at the notability guidelines, believe this film still qualifies but can see that the references I included are insufficient. Question: I found some other reviews of this movie online, should I include all reviews in the article? feels like overkill on that front. Scrobum (talk) 10:51, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Just bumping this up @SafariScribe -- Thanks! Scrobum (talk) 14:24, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Bumping this up again. Thanks! @SafariScribe Scrobum (talk) 14:24, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    This week's article for improvement (week 30, 2024)

    Cape of Good Hope (left) and Cape Hangklip (right) in South Africa
    Hello, SafariScribe. The article for improvement of the week is:

    Cape (geography)

    Please be bold and help improve it!


    Previous selections: Ambush • Applied science


    Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations


    Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions[reply]

    Awaiting response from a declined draft

    Hi, @SafariScribe: , I tries to engage you [here] but no response, I am confused by this decision, as the article included sourcing from several major reliable news publications per WP:NGRS which includes Independent in-depth reliable sources on the draft to pass Notability and he has coverage with byline and they are not passing mentioned. Sophia2030 (talk) 11:00, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Sophia2030, can I get the link of the draft? Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:07, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi, @SafariScribe: ,
    Here is the Draft link. Thanks. Sophia2030 (talk) 17:03, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi, @SafariScribe: , I am still awaiting your response on the draft as requested before I resubmit. Thanks in anticipation. Sophia2030 (talk) 20:09, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 11:33:18, 22 July 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Wabbit98

    {{SAFESUBST:Void|


    I do not get the reasoning for the reason the article was declined. The sources themselves are from the paperwork filed with the National Register for Historic Places. I do not think you can get more reliable than that.


    Wabbit98 (talk) 11:33, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Wabbit98, the sources for example, the NRHP link was empty. Welp, I have seen that fixed, and congratulations. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Submission declined

    Hi SafariScribe.

    Thanks for your feedback on my updated draft submission. I have edited the text to ensure that it is more formal and direct, but do believe my references are reputable and the subject is worthy of a wikipedia page as an active wine journalist and author. Would you have the time to help me with what could be improved upon further? Many thanks

    Draft:Dan Keeling#Noble Rot restaurants LunaPudding23 (talk) 15:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    A-class larrabee county

    Do you think Larrabee County, Iowa meets a-class ccriteria? It's short so it definitely doesn't meet FA but I know some very short A-class articles. i've already picked up a support. Regards 48JCL 16:38, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 17:24:37, 22 July 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Adrizacks98


    Hello! Thank you for looking over my draft. I was wondering if you could tell me exactly what was wrong with the article, so that I can make the necessary edits/additions and then publish it without worry. I plan to make posts for additional albums from that artist, since those Wiki pages don't exist yet. So, I appreciate any help in resolving this. Looking forward to your response!

    I also have a question - if I have one reference and I want to use it twice in the article, without it showing up twice in the reference list, how can I do that?

    Adrizacks98 (talk) 17:24, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 19:19:55, 22 July 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Jbsmitty


    Notability Assessment

    Tim Sheehy appears to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for several reasons:

    Media Coverage

    In the past week alone, there have been at least 8 distinct headlines mentioning Tim Sheehy, indicating significant media coverage. These headlines cover various aspects of his campaign, including his speeches at the Republican National Convention, his fundraising efforts, and his political positions. This level of media attention supports his notability under Wikipedia's guidelines, which consider significant coverage in reliable sources as a key criterion.

    Notability Criteria

    Wikipedia's notability guidelines for biographies of living persons (WP:BIO) state that a person is presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. Tim Sheehy's media coverage includes:

    • MSNBC: Coverage of his statements at the Republican National Convention.
    • USA Today: Full speech coverage at the Republican National Convention.
    • Montana Free Press: Detailed article on campaign donations.
    • Daily Montanan: In-depth interview and analysis.
    • Flathead Beacon: Article on his resignation from Bridger Aerospace.
    • Wall Street Journal: Coverage of his speech at the RNC.
    • KFF Health News: Fact-checking his statements on abortion.
    • KTVH: Coverage of his attempts to tie Jon Tester to President Biden.

    Achievements and Roles

    Tim Sheehy's achievements and roles also contribute to his notability:

    • Military Service: Decorated Navy SEAL with a Bronze Star and Purple Heart.
    • Business Career: Founder of Bridger Aerospace, which went public on the Nasdaq.
    • Political Candidacy: Republican nominee for the U.S. Senate in Montana, endorsed by prominent figures like Donald Trump and Steve Daines.

    Conclusion

    Given the significant media coverage, his notable achievements in both military and business, and his current political candidacy, Tim Sheehy meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Therefore, the draft page for Tim Sheehy should be considered notable under Wikipedia's guidelines. Jbsmitty (talk) 19:19, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 20:22:14, 22 July 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Elekesabel


    I'm wondering why the submission was declined. What is missing and how could I improve the page?

    Clayton R. Paul is a highly esteemed scientist, highly notable in his scientific field, author of numerous publications and books.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people) Here it says that for an academic "are notably influential in the world of ideas without their biographies being the subject of secondary sources".

    For context: I'm a researcher at the Northeastern University, Network Science Institute. We are working on a project, which aims to understand the differences between Human-curated encyclopedias and Machine-created knowledge. As part of this project we plan to upload 100 articles of notable scientist to Wikipedia in the following weeks. Our goal is to understand how can we influence the visibility of marginalized groups, both on human-curated and machine-created knowledge bases.

    We would love to receive feedback on the feasibility of our plans and how would you recommend approaching the articles.

    Ábel Elekes, PhD

    Elekesabel (talk) 20:22, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Question on article for creation

    Dear SafariScribe, I'd like to ask why my article submission Draft:The Quarterly Journal of Finance has been declined?

    I included within it two citations. They are: SCImago which is the standard journal ranking tool and the Midwest financial association. Both of these are independent of the journal itself. Also included in the infobox is the official journal webpage. In fact the SCImago Q2 ranking implies that the articles published by this journal received several thousand academic citations. I looked at other wiki articles (see: Category:Finance journals) for scientific journals and they all look the same.

    Thanks for your help, Funcionais. Funcionais (talk) 20:55, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Question on reliable sources

    @SafariScribe thanks for your quick review of Draft:Fabio Dias. I think my previous writing led you to believe I was putting this as a professor case, when actually this is a WP:SIGCOV case. Can you please confirm why The Jerusalem Post, Jornal Pequeno, Gulf News, Global Banking & Finance Review and Business Insider do not satisfy the criteria of multiple, reliable, secondary and independent sources? These aren’t sponsored posts, this is independent media coverage that has gone through an independent editorial board! Thanks Contributor892z (talk) 22:48, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Here is my source analysis:
    • source 1 is a press release
    • Source 2 is a promotional content
    • Source 3 is good
    • Source 4 is a list of former students of the school; isn't independent and a significant coverage
    • Source 5 is an WP:INTERVIEW
    • Source 6 is tagged with "#Featuredpost", thus promotional
    • Source 7 and 8 are not reliable; you can't cite Wikicommons
    • Source 9 to 10 were for the company and should reflect his impact, which I can't see. 9 is the article he co-authored
    • Source 10 is a press release of the company that is neither independent nor significantly covered
    • Source 11 is a promotional piece. Where is then the notability?
    Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 22:54, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @SafariScribe thanks for your feedback. I deleted the draft for now while I get more sources. Regarding sources 7 and 8, they are available online directly from the magazine, e.g this one [1] but the full text is under a paywall. Most of the really good references are actually under paywalls. What should I do to use these? Also, regarding source 6, a “featured post” is not a promotional post, is just a front cover post, the two things are different. Contributor892z (talk) 05:59, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The article Arjunawiwaha already exists on Wikipedia and i made this Draft: Arjunavivaha now and article by removing all AfC tags and comments in it comepletely now and I am telling you to move it to an article now as a request to you. 120.56.171.3 (talk) 14:06, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @120.56.171.3, do you mean redirecting? Pls be specific. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:38, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't want you to redirect it at all. I want you to turn that draft into an article now by moving it from a draft to an article now itself. 120.56.170.68 (talk) 16:45, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    FYI, the range 120.56.160.0/20 is used for block evasion by Vishal Kandassamy. Favonian (talk) 17:55, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Jim Gama

    Your declining of Jim Gama was honestly baseless. Clearly you had no reason to even touch the Jim Gama page as you have no clue how important is the subject in the Kingdom of eSwatini and for researchers. To say published books and newspaper articles are unreliable sources is the worst hoghwash I have ever heard from a reviewer since I started contributing on Wikipedia. Clearly you do not know what an unreliable source is, perhaps you should re-read the guidelines on reliable sources and that would help. ZS Khumalo (talk) 21:59, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @ZS Khumalo (talk page watcher) I have left a comment on your draft. Please devote your energy to dealing with the advice instead of arguing with a reviewer. We expect civility here. Please exhibit it at all times, especially when you are disappointed. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:34, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 22:17:20, 23 July 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Thirdward544


    Hi Safesafari, I saw the message about my article, "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources." Does it need more sources or different sources? Thanks!


    Thirdward544 (talk) 22:17, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Thirdward544 (talk page watcher) Generally I would suggest better sources. Also los the boldface, and drop words that are puffery. Any article that passes scrutiny deals with things that are notable. Lose the word, lose any similar words.
    Decide if you are writing about the man or the buildings.
    For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, in multiple secondary sources which are WP:RS, and is significant coverage. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact cited, that meet these tough criteria is likely to make this draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability). Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the person is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:28, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Very helpful, thank you. Thirdward544 (talk) 23:00, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 22:18:17, 23 July 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Thirdward544


    Hi SafariScribe, I saw the message about my article: "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources." Does it need more sources or different sources?


    Thirdward544 (talk) 22:18, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    You are crunching through the drafts, which is great

    May I ask you, please, seriously to consider more use of comments, even though it will slow you down. We need to give folk all the pointers we can in order to persuade them to create better drafts. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:38, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Certainly, I will Trent. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 22:45, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You may find the creation of a reasonably standard set to be useful. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:48, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @SafariScribe You haven't responded to this: Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk#13:53:58, 23 July 2024 review of submission by 104.232.119.107 104.232.119.107 (talk) 00:09, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for this. I agree.
    There do seem to be several requests for assistance on this page from authors whose articles have been declined for 'lack of reliable sources' who are struggling to understand what is wrong with the sources they have already cited. If the aim is to provide actionable feedback in order to allow a draft to be improved, then it would be helpful if authors could receive more pointers. It seems ironic if a finding of 'lack of reliable sources' is itself not substantiated.
    I appreciate that the more details a reviewer provides the longer it takes, and that reviewers have to balance the needs of individual authors with the wish to serve many authors by getting through many drafts. Nevertheless I think if a little more information were provided first time around, it would ultimately save time because authors wouldn't need to come back and request clarification. Klighed (talk) 14:39, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Copyvio check on AfC submission

    Hello! Thanks for your work on the AfC drafts. Just a friendly reminder to check the submissions for copyright violations before approving them; I spotted a copyvio in Burra railway station (diff). All the best, Broc (talk) 09:39, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    A close paraphrase I had missed. Thanks Broc. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:04, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    AfCs

    I see that at times you Decline a draft, the creator revises, you Decline again, the creator revises, you Decline again (Draft:Victor Arroyo). While I do not disagree with the weakness of the references in that example, perhaps Wikipedia would be better served if you avoid doing repeats. I suspect that for creating editors, especially those new to Wikipedia, this feels unfair, and that they would be better served with a different reviewer for resubmits. David notMD (talk) 10:14, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    While I appreciate your comment @David notMD, I do like to tell you that the tea house and AFC help desk isn't there for nothing. I started using comments since the decline box doesn't give much for a new editor to know. I will then disagree with "...and that they would be better served with a different reviewer for resubmits.". You are not them, you are presuming, and I doubt it, however it will take them to the appropriate quarter. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:24, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @David notMD, I didn't quite understand your comment: "Wikipedia would be better served if you avoid doing repeats." I know you're one of the most dedicated editors, but honestly, such words aren't helpful (for me especially). Are you suggesting I should leave drafts, even if they're pure spam? One thing I've learned in recent months is the importance of encouragement. Reviewing isn't easy, and you know that, but I see your point. @Timtrent can explain better; he's one of my best resources. Theroadislong, 331dot, Jesse, and KylieTastic understand because we're all in this together. Regardless, I appreciate your feedback. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:47, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @David notMD (I'm pinging you because I was asked to comment). I'm not in favour of reviewing drafts more than once, because I see it as my duty to sort out egregious errors at the first review. Subsequent submissions I may comment upon but rarely review unless it's an obvious and immediate acceptance.
    @SafariScribe It can be difficult when you see partial work done. It's all too tempting to jump in again, and, perhaps, again. I did this when I started. Then I started to understand that too many reviews by the same person, while I meant well, could seem like bullying by the recipient. This is hard for us as reviewers when we see repeated misunderstandings, but it's harder for the submitting editor. Even when asked to re-review I tell the requestor that "Other eyes than mine will get you a better review. I am not too close to it to be of much more help".
    It's like when we create articles ourselves. We have to learn to be the new article's father, and let it run free and graze its knees, not to mother it and try to wrap it in warm towels to save it from harm. I let my reviews graze their knees. I do try very hard to answer queries. Sometimes I run into trouble that way if I am overbearing.
    I hope that helps you understand my own perspective. If you find it useful, please adopt something similar 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 17:45, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have chosen to not be a Reviewer, so perhaps overstepped here. I will say that my sympathies are for novice editors who submit drafts, and feel that it is unfair/miunderstood when Declined by the same reviewer, often for the same reason as the first time, i.e., inadequate references, when the concept of what are valid versus invalid references is beyond them. David notMD (talk) 21:27, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @David notMD I think you made a valid and useful point, but might have phrased it a little differently. We all learn all the time. Yours is a point to learn from.
    Reviewing is as tough as we make it, and carries a high burnout risk. If we approach burnout then we review poorly. When we start out, we review as well as we can. When we realise how unimportant we are, then we can do editors who use AFC a service by reviewing usefully. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:05, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Darren Jones

    Thanks for your recent move and cleanup of Darren Jones (politician). Could I ask you to avoid leaving links of the form [[Darren Jones|Darren Jones]]? It's a small thing, but I'm on a WP:NOPIPE crusade.

    Best wishes, Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 10:29, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Jean-de-Nivelle, are you sure am the one? Can I get diffs because I doubt you? Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:54, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Of course. For example, here, you changed [[Darren Jones (politician)|Darren Jones]] to [[Darren Jones|Darren Jones]], when a better link would be simply [[Darren Jones]]. There are many other examples. It's not a big deal, and there's no need to clean them up, but I thought it was worth mentioning. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 12:01, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think the script didn't get the command. It was : Post-move cleanup, following swap of Darren Jones (politician) and Darren Jones: Changed link from Darren Jones (politician) to Darren Jones using Move+." Thanks though. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 12:15, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 13:10:32, 24 July 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by עומר תשבי


    I think there are more then enough sufficient references, addressing the subject of the article directly. Furthermore, it is worth noting that the subject has an article in Hebrew. Furthermore, it is worth noting that there are sources that are offline(magazines). I referred to one but I can refer to more. עומר תשבי (talk) 13:10, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    עומר תשבי (talk) 13:10, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft:Armstead v Royal & Sun Alliance Insurance Company Ltd

    Dear SafariScribe,

    Thank you for your very helpful comments/suggestions on this article so far - I think it is much improved. Thank you also for reviewing it so quickly.

    Could you please let me know which specific areas of the article require reliable/verifiable sources? I have just reviewed the article and the "Facts", "Previous decisions" and "Judgment" sections are drawn from the Supreme Court decision, do you think that I should make this clearer, perhaps by references to the relevant paragraphs of the Supreme Court decision? The Supreme Court is I think (by reference to the verifiable sources guidance) "reliable, independent with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy" and its judgment is of course a publication (which will be relied on by many lawyers) - but please let me know if this is not right for some reason - as you may have gathered, I am new to Wikipedia articles!

    Thanks very much again. All the best, @Tsoko77 Tsoko77 (talk) 15:44, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft:Angelo_Boffa

    Hi SafariScribe,

    Could you tell me why my draft for the article Angelo Boffa was declined due to unreliable sources? The same article is already pusblished on the German Wikipedia. The sources are all freely found online. Some of them are in German but that shouldn't make a difference.

    Thanks for your answer. Seilerjenny (talk) 11:56, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Nomination of Ada Eme for deletion

    A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Ada Eme is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

    The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ada Eme until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

    Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

    Blanes tree (talk) 12:14, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Question from Arpita Robert Pattinson (01:03, 26 July 2024)

    I want to create my own page with my image, how can i do that --Arpita Robert Pattinson (talk) 01:03, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft:DIALux

    Hello, thanks a lot for reviewing the dialux draft page and your feedback on improving the page quality. I have now tried to be more precise. Better information is provided with clear references. Some of the details like for example the supported standards of the programm are hard to find. The only source for these is at least the manufacturer homepage. Who else should know these in detail?

    There was a disusion on the importance of the topic on the german wikipedia site This could be of help to get an idea how significant the dialux programm is for the work with light. Thanks for your assistance. 2A02:908:1C24:5700:3816:3DE:CFAB:9321 (talk) 09:00, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for reviewing once again. The draft is now in rewritten in an encyclopedic format. The are more information now and the text has a better order. Several screens were added. Any further guidance on improving the draft would be much appreciated. 212.29.33.164 (talk) 11:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 09:46:21, 26 July 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Klighed


    Hi, many thanks for reviewing this article. I don't understand the reason it was declined. You have mentioned that claims need to be backed up by reliable sources. I thought that is what I had already done as I have tried to cite well-established national newspapers for historical events; academic journals to verify that the author has written certain works or been appointed editor; university websites to verify an academic appointment; and UK legislation to verify that certain changes were made to UK child protection laws.

    Please can you be more specific about which claims you feel are inadequately supported and/or which sources aren't adequately reliable.

    Clearly it is not realistic to support every statement made in a BLP – for example articles don't usually provide sources to verify years of birth, and details of an individual's career history are often not backed up by citations – so it's tricky for me as a new author to understand exactly where supporting evidence is required and where it is not. Any guidance would be much appreciated.


    Klighed (talk) 09:46, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft: Wawa Gatheru

    Hi! Thank you again for taking the time to read my Draft: Wawa Gatheru. I was hoping to get more feedback about the notes that the sources are not reliable and that Wawa does not qualify for a Wikipedia article.

    In regards to the sources, I tried to make sure to include a wide variety of what I believe are reliable news sources:

    Newspapers: Washington Post, LA Times

    Magazines: Forbes, Vogue (she has been featured twice), Teen Vogue, British Vogue, Essence, National Geographic, Grist

    Reliable News Sources: GBH (which is NPR), WRVO (which is also NPR), WNYC

    Well Regarded Nonprofits/Government Sites: National Parks Conservation, EPA

    Numerous Colleges: UPenn, UConn, Yale, Williams College, Bryant University

    In regards to qualifying for an article, she has won numerous awards for her work and is a leading voice for the Black community in environmentalism. I saw your note about just doing a Black Girl Environmentalist article, but respectfully, most of the articles are about Wawa and her story. She's the driving force behind BGE and most of the articles are about her story and the work she has been doing.

    There are numerous other articles about similar climate activists that have been published on Wikipedia and Wawa seems to have received similar or more coverage and have similar or more qualifications for a Wikipedia article. Here are some that I have seen on Wikipedia: Maya Penn, Leah Thomas, Tori Tsui, Nalleli Cobo, Xiye Bastida.

    Again, I'm new to writing articles, so I'd love some feedback on what I'm missing and what I need to add to get the article published. Thank you! Jonasstaff (talk) 18:04, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Question from AcsoGary (19:45, 26 July 2024)

    Hello SafariScribe, I am new to Wikipedia but have used it for years. I am the War Memorial Custodian for the village where I work. I would like to create a wikipage about the memorial itself with links to those named on it. I understand that this is a long process and would greatly appreciate any and all help you are able to offer. Kind regards. Gary. --AcsoGary (talk) 19:45, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    July 2024

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    Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

    Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:SafariScribe. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=SafariScribe|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Blanes tree (talk) 22:15, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Note: this warning I believe is spurious. It is impacted by Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Blanes tree. 104.232.119.107 (talk) 02:08, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There might be some truth in this assumption.
    We received spam mails from wikisubmissions.com and idigitalakki.com after our Draft was submitted for reviewing. Both companies wanted to assist us in getting successfully approved.
    Coincidence? 212.29.33.164 (talk) 08:10, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @212.29.33.164 I don't know what you may be pointing at, but I have a friend that can break it down, @Timtrent. Fwiw, no reviewer takes prejudice of declining a draft if it merits one according to WP notability guidelines. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:55, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    All interested parties should read WP:SCAM, making any reports it suggests
    @SafariScribe Despite assumptions that this notice is spurious, we can all expect to be asked the question at some point, and should give a clear and unequivocal answer to it. It matters little who asks it, it needs to be answered. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 11:03, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    P.S. I have never edited for any payment whatsoever. My edits and works on Wikipedia is completely voluntary. If there is an report of scam from any resemblance of me, my edits, even possible fabricated lookalike username, please note it isn't me. I will advise you promptly file a report to the Wikipedia community. @104.232.119.107, @212.29.33.164, @Timtrent. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:15, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for the clarification. I believe in it.
    We should not forget that it is ultimately possible for anyone to evaluate these Pending_AfC_submissions lists and then send spam emails based on the gaterhed information.
    There is no reason to say that this was SafariScribe. 212.29.33.164 (talk) 12:04, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    This week's article for improvement (week 31, 2024)

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    Request on 17:25:07, 29 July 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by DrBlackcow


    Hello. About the draft Draft:Sol Chin, I have supplemented the references and cited reliable sources based on the comments you provided when you declined the draft on July 6th. I understand that I cannot speed up the review process on my demand, but I am now curious to know if the draft has been appropriately revised so that it could be accepted quickly. I apologize for asking this question, as I am not very familiar with Wikipedia. Thank you for your understanding.

    DrBlackcow (talk) 17:25, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @DrBlackcow, I'll look at it the second time. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:10, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    o hai!

    Thank you for the quality improvements and review, I need to get my dots in order - thanks for those too :D

    MissAnonymous123 (talk) 02:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Help on how to Archive my talk page

    Hello, @SafariScribe

    I hope this message finds you well. I want to express my gratitude for your guidance and assistance with drafts and reviews. I am reaching out to inquire if it is appropriate to request help with archiving my talk page, as it has become quite lengthy and cluttered.

    Best regards


    Afrowriter (talk) 07:30, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Afrowriter, I hope this isn't late yet. Read Help:Archiving a talk page for an easy guideline. I will recommend User:Elli/OneClickArchiver, which may be easier because I use it. It will appear on the right sidebar or even add an "archive" button to all the sections of your talk page. Is there still any other question? Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:34, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @SafariScribe Thanks for reaching out. I've been a bit busy and away from Wikipedia due to the crisis going on in this part of Cameroon. I was making preparations for a relocation. Glory be to Allah, I have been able to move with my family for the time being. I'm just now seeing this message, and I will give it a try once again. Thanks for all your assistance in making Wikipedia a safe place for some editors.
    Best regards, Afrowriter (talk) 08:54, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Afrowriter, I'm very very sorry to hear that. It's similar in Nigeria, where we are having a peaceful protest. Would you like me to help you out by leaving some queries unanswered for you to attend to later? Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 09:26, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you still trying to figure things out around here like customizing my signature and so on. we keep you posted. Afrowriter👳‍♂️ (talk) 11:17, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    complainment

    HEY, WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO DECLINE ALL MY ARTICLES??? IT HAS RELIABLE SOURCES! Zanbarg (talk) 08:49, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    oH, AND YOU ALWAYS DECLINED MY ARTICLES! EVEN THE PLAYTIME FILM ARTICLE! HOW DARE YOU! Zanbarg (talk) 08:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Could you cool it with the SHOUTING? Being rude and aggressive isn't the way to get what you want. It looks like your draft submission is lacking independent sources, unconnected from the film - simply add some of those and you can resubmit. -- D'n'B-t -- 10:51, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello! I saw you declined this draft, but I think it fulfills WP:NPOL. Am I wrong? Broc (talk) 12:42, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Broc, I don't see that he meets WP:NPOL. There is no significant office election or appointment. Being an Undersecretary of Justice and a member of the Committee on Freedom of Association of the International Labor Organization doesn't confer that either. Maybe am missing something. Can you provide evidences of your thought, I mean what you think? Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:39, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Request on 21:08:03, 30 July 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Catycherry


    Thanks so much for reviewing my page! I'd love your help understanding why Antoneta Kusijanovic isn't notable enough for a page – her film Murina is very powerful, and won the top award for a first feature film at Cannes a few years ago. She's also been awarded for multiple other films, and has hundreds of press articles about her and her movies. I've created or edited pages for much less recognized folks (including a number of local DJs and fictional characters) so I'd love some guidance on the types of sources you'd like to see to demonstrate that notability.

    Thanks in advance for your help!

    Catycherry (talk) 21:08, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Catycherry, there's an WP:UNDUEWEIGHT with your draft. We don't need to know about her directing of Murina. Just tell us any award she has won for directing, any review of her film direction such as styles, themes, etc. Has she directed multiple notable films? I can only see you cite five or thereabout, which isn't enough for WP:NDIRECTOR. Write about her and list the films she has directed as well as maybe few awards of the film that sources recognized her impact. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:19, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    New draft page review may have missed the sources/references ...

    In regard to this new draft page Draft:Ivo_D._Dinov, the actual reliable sources of notability citations are provided but well into the article. Could you please consider rereviewing the content of the draft and confirm if it meets the academic-specific criteria? Here are a pair of conditions that are satisfied (and citations are referenced in the draft article:

    According to the 8 wikipedia notability criteria, this draft page for Ivo D. Dinov, an academic satisfies at least 2 of the criteria:
    • #3 The person has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association (e.g., a National Academy of Sciences or the Royal Society) or a fellow of a major scholarly society which reserves fellow status as a highly selective honor (e.g., Fellow of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers or Honorary Fellow of the Institute of Physics).
    The scholar is an honorary member (fellow) of the Sigma Theta Tau International Society, and an elected member (fellow) of the International Statistical Institute (ISI). Both references are provided in the article.
    • #5 The person has held a distinguished professor appointment at a major institution of higher education and research, a named chair appointment that indicates a comparable level of achievement, or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon.
    The scholar is a named professor and chair, the University of Michigan Henry Philip Tappan Collegiate professor (reference is provided in the article, it self).

    Thanks much. VodnaTopka (talk) 20:07, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    SafariScribe, following this recommendation from David_notMD, this draft article, Draft:Ivo_D._Dinov, was revised. Please check again if this is a better reflection of notability. Thank you for your diligent Wikignome work. VodnaTopka (talk) 22:56, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    VodnaTopka AfC reviewers who hav declined a draft do not necessarily conduct another review. David notMD (talk) 04:34, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @David notMD, it's not helpful with such a reply. A second opinion gives a reviewer (sometimes along other reviewers) another time to revise the draft again but it appears I have missed this one. @VodnaTopka, kudos with your accepted draft–article, and continue adding your knowledge to Wikipedia. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:23, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Stella (Trane) Jackson

    Good morning. I am just asking for some tips on how to get this page posted. I am a summer intern at Trane Technologies and it is my last day today so I am hoping to leave with some tips I can give the person who will be taking over this project. Thanks! 32.141.76.18 (talk) 12:33, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @32.141.76.18, I thought I have listed that already. If not, link the draft here for me to take a second look. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 07:05, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Gangadhar Nehru

    Hi @SafariScribe, Hope you are doing well. I saw that you are reject my previous draft Draft:Gangadhar Nehru, Do you really think that the article does not pass WP:GNG? Whereas the subject is mentioned in hundreds of english, Hindi, and even Urdu language books. And there are many books which are not available on the internet, which you can put in the category of (WP:OFFLINE). I think you should check again. Thank You with warm regards! Youknow? (talk) 15:09, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    (talk page stalker) @Youknow?, the books you provided lack page numbers. Can you provide them for verification? Best, Reading Beans 11:37, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Your FAC

    Hi SafariScribe, I'm really sorry I missed your entry. It's a good article, perhaps a bit on the long side, but who am I to talk! and it was very rude of me to ignore your talk page message to me. I guess I just forgot. Goldfish memory me. Anyway, I was thinking of retiring, but I might put one more FAC up first. More importantly, if you put Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie up again ping me. Or email me. It won't be canvassing, because you've already tried the neutral way once. After that, all bets are off  :) I hope it hasn't discouraged you, and I hope I haven't been part of that discouragement. Apologies to you again! ——Serial Number 54129 16:24, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Oh no. Serial Number 54129, I understand and I will do that when I finally renominate. I will stay off like a week before starting some removal, restructuring, resizing, copyediting, e.t.c. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 07:03, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Promotional wording

    Hi, you recently tagged Naver Dictionary as having wording that reads promotional. I posted on Talk:Naver Dictionary about the tag seefooddiet (talk) 16:51, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Seefooddiet, I have edited and removed some promotional contents from the article, hence my removal of the tag. Also remember that Wikipedia doesn't value unnecessary things to know about a company, book, etc. I mean things that aren't encyclopedic. However, I thank you most graciously for your benevolent editings towards contributing from another language to English Wikipedia. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:44, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Boris FX

    Hi there. You removed this source as not being reliable on the draft article for Her Name Was Moviola. The Art of the Guillotine blog on the BorisFX website is by the highly respected and published author and expert Steve Hullfish, and is a legitimate and very long running series of interviews and articles about film editing. Saying “you don’t remember” Boris FX being a credible source is not very fair if you are unfamiliar with how highly regarded this industry publication is, considering the contributors are renowned and world leading experts in the field of film editing. Please could you look at what you consider to be reliable again and perhaps help some more because it feels like it was just your opinion as to what’s credible rather than knowledge of what’s credible that has removed many sources from the article. 82.34.255.209 (talk) 06:44, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @82.34.255.209, can you link the draft? Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 07:00, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Poupette Kenza

    Hello @SafariScribe, you declined the submission of this article : Draft:Poupette Kenza, which is mostly a translation of the French wikipedia article. The reasons for your refusal are lack of reliable sources, lack of significant coverage. The contrary is true: there are a number of focused articles, by quality secondary sources. Le Monde, Le Point, Le Figaro, Libération…  are among the French most significant & reliable French newspapers. The articles they published don't just report some facts : they analyze the phenomenon this person embodies. Among others, you may want to check:

    1. Le Monde : https://www.lemonde.fr/pixels/article/2023/02/18/poupette-kenza-exhibe-sa-vie-de-femme-au-foyer-a-ses-millions-d-abonnes-sur-snapchat_6162397_4408996.html
    2. Franceinfo : https://www.francetvinfo.fr/internet/reseaux-sociaux/soupcons-de-maltraitance-publicite-cachee-qui-est-l-influenceuse-poupette-kenza-au-c-ur-de-plusieurs-polemiques_6012842.html
    3. Ouest-France : https://mcetv.ouest-france.fr/mon-mag-buzz/people/poupette-kenza-debarque-sur-tiktok-et-pulverise-tous-les-records-24012023/
    4. Radio France : https://www.radiofrance.fr/franceinter/podcasts/capture-d-ecrans/capture-d-ecrans-du-mercredi-28-decembre-2022-1263560
    5. Le Point : https://www.lepoint.fr/societe/qui-est-poupette-kenza-l-influenceuse-qui-enchaine-les-bourdes-17-05-2024-2560439_23.php
    6. BFMTV : https://www.bfmtv.com/tech/actualites/reseaux-sociaux/maltraitance-detournement-de-fonds-placements-de-produit-poupette-kenza-l-influenceuse-en-constante-polemique_AV-202308170305.html
    7. 20 Minutes : https://www.20minutes.fr/faits_divers/4100520-20240709-seine-maritime-pourquoi-influenceuse-poupette-kenza-incarceree
    8. Le HuffPost : https://www.huffingtonpost.fr/life/article/poupette-kenza-quand-la-surexposition-des-enfants-d-influenceurs-pose-probleme_214358.html
    9. Le Parisien : https://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/cagnotte-detournee-linfluenceuse-poupette-kenza-et-lorphelinat-trouvent-un-accord-des-soupcons-persistent-05-07-2023-HYAFBHMRKFANVFPLQYA4TGX75M.php
    10. Libération : https://www.liberation.fr/societe/religions/je-ne-travaille-avec-aucun-juif-linfluenceuse-poupette-kenza-dans-le-viseur-de-la-justice-apres-des-propos-antisemites-20240516_RKQJX4KKZJGGXOKXNCPJQPFZJM/
    11. Le Figaro : https://www.lefigaro.fr/secteur/high-tech/l-influenceuse-poupette-kenza-au-coeur-d-une-nouvelle-polemique-apres-des-propos-antisemites-20240516

    We've got coverage that's focused, analytic, and reliable - and I therefore think you should reconsider your refusal. AYGFS (talk) AYGFS (talk) 07:05, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @AYGFS, sources in an article must meet WP:SIRS WP:NBIO. Yes, a French celebrity but not notable. Your draft is written like an expanded CV and overall spectacular promotional news. Try trimming down irrelevant words that doesn't show any encyclopedic information about Kenza. By the way, do you have any relationship with the draft you have written? If so, you should also declare it by reading WP:COI before your draft will be considered Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:52, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I would be happy to accept the draft after you have done the above. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:56, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    My draft has all that's required: a noticable subject, multiple reliable sources, a neutral wording, etc. Since you won't see it now, my guess is you wouldn't see it in the future either - whatever more I (or anybody else) could write. Anyhow, thanks for your tine and farewell. AYGFS (talk) 10:22, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @AYGFS you are welcome to resubmit it and another reviewer will take look but give WP:NOTGOSSIP a read first. It does come off more as a diary in some parts and for controversial claims make sure you are using high-quality sources. Safari, WP:SIRS is only applicable to organizations. This is about a person so WP:NBIO is the relevant guideline. S0091 (talk) 15:20, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @S0091, thanks for the refresh. I almost got to say WP:42. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 17:27, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yep, 42 is a good one and one I also forget about. S0091 (talk) 17:32, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Academic notability

    Hi, my draft was recently rejected due to not meeting any of the academic notability specific criteria, even though the subject meets several of the academic specific criteria, most notably first, third, fifth and sixth criteria.

    1st: Like I wrote in the draft, a peer-reviewed Festschrift was dedicated to the subject recently, which already satisfies the first criteria by itself, according to the academic notability page criteria note 1c.

    3rd: Like I wrote in the draft, Lavento is a member/fellow of Finnish Society of Sciences and Letters, which is the practically the Royal Society of Finland.

    5th: Finland uses the German academic rank system, where the professor is the highest possible chair and only awarded to the most distinguished researchers, which makes it similar to a distinguished professor.

    6th: Lavento was the chairman of the Finnish Antiquarian Society, which is the oldest and the most notable of all scholarly cultural heritage societies in Finland.

    How should I edited the article that these points are more apparent? I've already cited the societies where the membership/professor status are mentioned. And do you think these sources are not clear enough for a non-finnish/swedish speaker? Thanks in advance. MrGakster (talk) 19:53, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @DoubleGrazing mind having a look at this one given your knowledge of Finnish. @MrGakster you may have a point but will see.
    On another note, SafariScribe I notice many queries go unanswered. If you are going to review hundreds of drafts be prepared to answer questions/address concerns regarding your declines. S0091 (talk) 20:42, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @S0091, some of the questions are duplicated/asked or answered either at the AFC help desk or teahouse. I try my best to respond as I am going through a short time stress. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:06, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Your editing suggests otherwise. If you are "going through a short time stress" then I suggest slowing down. S0091 (talk) 21:14, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    SS Hi there. You are reviewing drafts too quickly and I mean it. You are doing a good job actually, but it would be better if you decide to actually take care in reviewing the drafts. For example, I've accepted some drafts which your initially declined, maybe because you didn't really pay attention to the details. Just as S0091 has noted, since you're having stress (in real life?), it would be best to take a break from reviewing drafts and come back anytime you want. That is by the way. If you'd want to continue despite your stress, and to avoid these plenty of unanswered threads on your talk page, leaving a very detailed reason of your decline would still help. For example, don't just use the in-built AFCH decline reason, convey your own view using the comment box, this would probably address any possible questions the submitter would have, you comment could refer them to specific guides/policies that would help them better. Overall, I love the fact that you're learning so quickly from your mistakes. I hope you recover from your stress as soon as possible. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:28, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the ping, @S0091. I fully agree with @MrGakster's contentions regarding NACADEMIC points #1, #3 and #6. I'm not sure I entirely agree with #5; yes, it's true that there isn't anything higher than Professor, but whether that automatically makes Professor = Distinguished Professor, is perhaps debatable. Nevertheless, this draft is a clear pass; I'll go ahead and accept it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:16, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for checking and accepting the draft @DoubleGrazing! And good luck to you too @SafariScribe! MrGakster (talk) 21:07, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @S0091, @Vanderwaalforces, @DoubleGrazing, thank you all for the resolve and encouragement. Congratulations @MrGakster. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 17:50, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    To be clear, you have not done anything bad or even close. Everyone learns differently but they way I learn (I am always learning) is reading the AfC Helpdesk; everyone's responses are helpful as are Jéské Couriano's source assessments. I also follow up on past reviews to see if they were later accepted or declined again by others and rely on the second check by NPP for my accepts. Given you are an NPP reviewer, you might consider not marking your accepts as reviewed (up to you). Everyone makes mistakes and certainly opinions differ about what is acceptable or not and sometimes I look back on a review and wonder what the heck I was thinking. :) Based on the activity on your talk page, you have several experienced editors watching so likely if you had a question you could ask here and someone would answer. You are also welcome to ping me or visit my talk page, even if it is to disagree with something I have done. S0091 (talk) 18:25, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @S0091, it's usually a rare action for me to mark my accept as reviewed. I do that on a very needful case, where I edited simultaneously with many editors or that I am fully sure. In short, I take NPP guideline a double time before marking. Welp, I also rely on NPP for a second look of my accept. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 18:35, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Apologies, I thought it marked it as reviewed automatically because AfC reviewers who are also NPP have stated they mark their accepts as unreviewed. My language did not make that clear. S0091 (talk) 19:06, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Carrozzeria Coriasco

    You rejected this draft as not meeting the Reliable Sources guidelines - there is literally a book written about Coriasco, by an uninvolved author. I can add more sources, but if you think that a standalone book on the topic does not meet WP:RS then I am not sure what it will take. Sannia's Carrozzieri book is also excellent (with an introduction by Leonardo Fioravanti and the foreword written by Umberto Eco), while Autoweek.nl and La Escuderia seem perfectly reliable to me. Please clarify your interpretation of WP:RS so that I know what has to be done in this case.  Mr.choppers | ✎  20:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    (talk page stalker) @Mr.choppers Hi there, first off, please provide exact page numbers of the books you cited. Page numbers of the book that verify the statement the citation is put next to. They will ease review as you cannot just cite an entire book for a single (or two) sentence(s). That being said, the draft is also kind of written in an unencyclopaedic tone, you might want to restructure some of the sentences in the second section and put that list as pure prose instead. I'd also say that the citations are not sufficient because there are some sentences that lacks citations from the second section. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:44, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Vanderwaalforces: I didn't write it - I do own one of the reference works and will add page numbers accordingly. Are you saying that to pass WP:DRAFT, an article has to be perfect and complete? Last I checked, articles should only be rejected if they would have been deleted if put up for AfD - which is clearly not the case here. As for the possibly uncited sentences, I will quote WP:AFCR: Avoid declining an article because it correctly uses general references to support some or all of the material. The content and sourcing policies require inline citations for only four specific types of material, most commonly direct quotations and contentious material about living persons. I see nothing potentially contentious (except possibly "Thanks to the success with the 600 Multipla and 850 T derivates, in Italy 'Coriasco' nowadays is a household name for light vans.") As for the style of writing, it was written by someone who's a non-native English speaker, but AFCR has minor issues like that covered, too: ...accept the article and tag it with maintenance templates to alert other editors to issue(s)..
    To list or not is a matter of opinion, I would say putting that content in prose would be turgid and hard to read. But again, this is not cause for rejecting an article.  Mr.choppers | ✎  00:54, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Mr.choppers I wasn’t telling you why the draft was declined — I was pointing out a few things I noticed. And by the way, I personally will not accept a draft if I can’t not verify the claims it makes from the cited sources, because whether you like it or not, the verifiability rules is key and it applies to all articles and drafts. I don’t want to address the fact that you own one of the cited materials on the draft… that sounds like you’re citing your own book, citing your own opinion. I’d recuse here and leave the review for someone else whenever you resubmit it. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:19, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Vanderwaalforces: are you suggesting I am Alessandro Sannia? I recommend you withdraw your statement and apologize, and then read WP:AFCR.  Mr.choppers | ✎  14:14, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No no, you misread or misunderstood my comments. You said you own one of the referenced work right? And then you’re citing your own work in an article you’re creating. That was what I was pointing out, not saying you’re the subject. My comment is not even anywhere close to giving such impression, I’m not new to AfC and can tell you when an when not to accept a draft more appropriately. Because you do not agree with a reviewer doesn’t mean otherwise of the reviewer’s competences. I don’t plan on replying further in this matter. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:59, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You wrote that sounds like you’re citing your own book, citing your own opinion and then suggested that I "recuse" myself - you are clearly accusing me of citing a reference I wrote myself.  Mr.choppers | ✎  20:56, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Mr.choppers, I won't say your draft meets WP:GNG. The major issue is verifiability. I can't verify all those transformations he did as it was in the article, and being honest, they don't seem to have been covered in multiple reliable sources. Provide sources where relevant to help any reviewer access them and know whether to accept or decline the draft. Also, we accept drafts that we believe will pass AFD per WP policies and guidelines. If verifiability becomes a major issue of an article, then it deserves merging or deletion as the case may be. Maintenance tag is also good but should be an alte work, when the article is good enough and historically significant. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:46, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    First, it is not my draft, as I have already stated above and should be clear to anyone who actually reviewed the draft. There are currently seven cited sources, including one published book specifically about the company. It meets WP:N without issue. As per the guidelines, an article only needs inline citations for "four specific types of material, most commonly direct quotations and contentious material about living persons." Why can you not verify the conversions? They are cited. Again, from the guidelines: "Avoid declining an article because the reliable sources are not free, online or in English. Books, magazines, and other print-only sources are perfectly acceptable, and may as well be in another language." Your behavior seems to fall foul of WP:NOTHERE.  Mr.choppers | ✎  14:28, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Mr.choppers, I have taken time to digest the draft again and here are helps I came out with.
    The sources reliably cites "Fiat 1100 Boat Car By Carrozzeria Coriasco", which may be a notable product of the company, and possibly deserves a page. If source "Alessandro, Sannia (2017). Enciclopedia dei Carrozzieri Italiani [Encyclopedia of the Italian Coachbuilders]. Turin, Italy: Societa Editrice Il Cammello. p. 192. ISBN 9788896796412 is accessible by you, because I cannot, you may email the contents including the other cited from this book. I also unfortunately have no access to source Alessandro, Sannia, ed. (2019). Carrozzeria Coriasco. Turin, Italy: Societa Editrice Il Cammello. ISBN 9788896796627. Among them, including lack of WP:SIGCOV, I can't see the draft meeting WP:NCORP. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 14:35, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    A published work specifically about the company in question meets SIGCOV. You are in direct contravention of the guidelines at WP:AFCSTANDARDS; the crux and the base concern of this process is whether or not an article would survive the AfD process. If I thought you were discussing this honestly I would scan and email you pages from the Sannia (2017) but judging by your talk page you are not exhibiting good will.

    Core purpose

    The purpose of reviewing is to identify which submissions will be deleted and which won't. Articles that will probably survive a listing at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion should be accepted. Articles that will probably not survive should be declined. Issues that do not affect the likelihood of success at AFD (e.g., halo effects like formatting) should not be considered.— Preceding unsigned comment added by user:Mr.choppers (talkcontribs)

    Please consider adding specific feedback to your decline reviews

    I see that so far just today you have declined over 100 draft submissions and accepted nine. I understand you must be busy but I hope you can provide comment feedback to those you decline on what the issues are beyond what is in generic template. From the comments I am seeing on your talk page this does appear to be a problem. Consider offering more assistance even if it is sacrificing efficiency. 21:42, 2 August 2024 (UTC) Myotus (talk) 21:42, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I will do that. I normally use that when I feel the draft, with a little editing will be accepted by another reviewer. Cheers though. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:40, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Blair Doroshwalther moved to draftspace

    Thanks for your contributions to Blair Doroshwalther. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because please correct the formatting before submitting for review. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

    Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. UtherSRG (talk) 23:10, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The source are most reliable about the movie KAGOJ

    Dear sir, if i not mistake, all the source are reliable and authenticated. Most source are from reputed and established source. Kagoj movie is such a film in bangladesh that should have an article in wikipedia. If you advice i could add more reliable source even TV coverage, review and most Award winning related source. Could i do request to check about the film once in any search engine site for for your kind Alizdirector (talk) 00:51, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Can I get the link to the draft to have a second look at it? Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:54, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kagoj-The_Paper Alizdirector (talk) 01:11, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes Sir. It was
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kagoj-The_Paper Alizdirector (talk) 01:20, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Israeli apartheid

    Hi, are you going to carry out the move? Selfstudier (talk) 22:13, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Selfstudier, the article is protected that only admins can move it, hence my request at WP:RM/TR. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 07:11, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, OK, understood. Selfstudier (talk) 08:58, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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    Teramaze (Band) draft

    Hi. You declined a draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Teramaze but you didn't say specifically what is lacking. Since this wasn't the first time the draft was declined, I've had previous discussions with editors and learned more about Wikipedia criteria, and provided the changes that were requested of me.

    The omission of this article in Wikipedia is IMHO quite scandalous, I would first ask editors to convince themselves that this is an internationally renowned and appreciated band, with over a dozen solid albums published. It is not the greatest band in the world, but it is also not a border-line-notable band; I think it is well over that line. I think the problem might be that they are not very money-driven, and choose to do things modernly, avoiding record labels and dealing directly with their fans throught the Internet. Until Wikipedia modernizes its own criteria for appreciating this kind of band, it does create difficulties for editors. This is the era of Bandcamp, Youtube channels and Spotify... and Wikipedia is still looking for "old school" signs of notability.

    BUT this band has also published with old-school labels, and has been dealt with in the specialized press (internationally), as my sources demonstrate. It has headlined festvals on the opposite side of the globe where they are from. So we really should be able to get this article "out the door", with the current wikipedia standards.

    Please tell me specifically why you declined, what you think is missing that would make this acceptable. If some statements are not sufficiently sourced I could just remove them, I would favor getting the article published first, then getting it improved. Other than that, I've had the notability discussions with previous editors that had declined it, and I feel that I have provided what was asked.

    Thank you for your revision and thanks in advance for your explanations. Callmepgr (talk) 10:44, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The band doesn't seem to meet WP:BAND. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:28, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]