Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2012 March 2

2 March 2012

Debraj Shome

Debraj Shome (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

This AfD was closed as no consensus with the spurious claim None of the people suggesting delete had anything to say about the sources presented by MelanieN which is the core issue.. That is completely untrue, as my comment specifically said that none of the sources provided was a reliable source from which to write a biography, and all of them were incidental mentions. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 22:27, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

• Endorse, or change to Keep. Reasonable conclusion, but keep would have been better, because there are refs offering substantial coverage from the major Indian newspapers. Although there was concern over that what they showed him notable was not in fact major scientific discoveries but rather fringy therapies, this is not a valid objection and is founded on a misunderstanding of policy. He does not meet WP:PROF to be sure, but he does meet the GNG, which is explicitly provided for in WP:PROF as an alternative for just this sort of situation, where there is popular but not academic notability DGG ( talk ) 22:34, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
• Comment Looking over my close I can only agree with The Mark of the Beast that the statement I made was factually incorrect. Somehow I missed the comment he made 15 February and that made me interpret his 20 February comment as a post done without considering the references presented in the AfD. I apologize for my mistake. That being said, I still consider no consensus to be the most reasonable close. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 00:49, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
• In the "keep" corner, we have the 31 sources in the article and 5 provided by MelanieN. In the "delete" corner, we have an opinion statement that none of them are sufficient. If that opinion statement was backed up by a reasoned analysis of the sources, we might have something substantial enough to justify an overturn and relist, but with just the bare opinion statement, I'm not seeing it. The amount of attitude the nominator displays on Pax Vobiscum's talk page is noted and taken into account.—S Marshall T/C 02:00, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

  You mean the "attitude" that my comment was totally ignored? That attitude? Pax Vobiscum apologized for that oversight, but S Marshall needs to consider where I was coming from at the time, and "attitude" has no bearing on deletion discussions. I will repeat: Not a single one of the "sources" Melanie provided is any worth at all in writing a biography. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 06:21, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Cole Mullin

Cole Mullin (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (restore)

I went to try to create this page today, but it won't let me because it has been "created to many times and is disruptive to some people". I don't understand why this page got deleted in the first place...just google "Cole Mullin" and you'll find plenty of information about him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Safarisocialism (talk • contribs) 20:09, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

• I've googled, and I don't see anything that indicates he's significant enough to merit a biography in this encyclopedia. Please write a draft first, then ask for unprotection. 74.74.150.139 (talk) 20:57, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
• Not yet. The content of the last substantial version, dated January 8, 2012, gave no conceivable indication of importance, So much so that I'd rather not restore it, but I'll send a copy to any non-admin who wants to check. If there are any references providing substantial coverage from 3rd party independent published reliable sources, that might serve to show notability, what are they? DGG ( talk ) 22:28, 2 March 2012 (UTC)