Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022 January 27
International women's cricket tours templates
- Template:International women's cricket tours of Australia (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:International women's cricket tours of England (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:International women's cricket tours of India (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:International women's cricket tours of Ireland (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:International women's cricket tours of Netherlands (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:International women's cricket tours of New Zealand (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:International women's cricket tours of Pakistan (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:International women's cricket tours of South Africa (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:International women's cricket tours of Sri Lanka (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:International women's cricket tours of West Indies (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
These were created in 2020 and are all unused except that the England one is used at West Indies women's cricket team in England in 2020. They are clearly unfinished, the content mostly dying out in the early 2000s. However, the main issue is that they replicate the "Home series" sections of already well-used templates in a somewhat different style: {{Australia women's national cricket team}}, {{England women's cricket team}}, {{India women's national cricket team}}, {{Ireland women's cricket team}}, {{Netherlands women's national cricket team}}, {{New Zealand women's national cricket team}}, {{Pakistan women's national cricket team}}, {{South Africa women's national cricket team}}, {{Sri Lanka women's national cricket team}}, {{West Indies women's cricket team}}. Unless there is some plan to use them instead of the existing ones they should be deleted. Showing readers two templates containing the same content is just likely to confuse. Nigej (talk) 11:39, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- Template:Scroller (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Subst and delete, or deprecate. Transcluded in five user (sub)pages and one template talk page. In other words, very seldom used. George Ho (talk) 09:58, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
Top ten male doubles tennis players templates
- Template:Top Baltic male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top Belarusian male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top Canadian male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top European male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top Finnish male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top Hungarian male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top Moldovan male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top Vietnam male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top male doubles tennis players from the Americas (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten African male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten American male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten Argentine male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten Australian male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten Austrian male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten Brazilian male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten British male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten Central Asian male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten Chinese male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten Colombian male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten Croatian male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten Czech male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten Dutch male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten French male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten German male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten Japanese male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten Kazakhstani male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten Latin American male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten Polish male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten Portuguese male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten Romanian male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten Russian male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten Serbian male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten Slovak male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten Spanish male doubles tennis players (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Top ten male doubles tennis players of countries in the Asian Tennis Federation (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
This is a follow-up to a discussion at WT:TENNIS#"Top ten" lists and lists all the "top ten" navboxes for male doubles. There seemed to be general consensus there, that because they are poorly maintained they should be deleted. Personally I'm of the view that they have little encyclopedic value. I've selected the doubles list because they seem to me to be of less interest generally than the singles. Nigej (talk) 08:29, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- Template:LBY1977 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Redundant to Template:Country data Libya. Can be replaced with {{flag|Libya|1977}}
if needed. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 03:43, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Unnecessary. Nigej (talk) 07:21, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
The articles listed in this template do not describe their subjects as being "liberal conservatism", rather, their listing here is totally about the opinion of the template creator, (Storm598), who is banned from AmPol, and has been shown to have a rather tenuous grasp and inaccurate understanding of the subject matter. Their opinions on these subjects are guided by Korean political blogs, and *not* by reliable sources. In point of fact, the inclusion of these articles in the subject area "liberal conservatism" is totally unsourced and misleading to our readers. This template should be deleted immediately, and the creator warned -- once again -- about editing in the area of political theory, of which they understand very little. (See this for the latest instance.) Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:59, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- You may see the existence of the template negatively, but don't attack it like this. Is there any evidence that I looked at and referred to South Korean sites when editing articles on European politics?--Storm598 (talk) 04:31, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think the template should be deleted. Liberal conservatism is a key theme of European conservatism, and European "liberal" are different in meaning from American "liberal". I don't think there's a problem if the template deals with European politics without editing related to politics from other countries such as the United States.--Storm598 (talk) 05:15, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- Most of Europe's centre-right conservative parties are related to liberal conservatism. The CDU of Germany, the Republicans of France, and the Conservative Party of the UK are representative liberal conservative parties. (However, there is some controversy over whether the Conservative Party of the UK is completely liberal conservative.)--Storm598 (talk) 05:17, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- There are political and philosophical differences between "conservatism" and "liberal conservatism" in the traditional sense. In general, conservatism was an ideology centered on aristocrats and rejected the value of classical liberalism. However, liberal conservatism embraces the elements of classical liberalism and advocates more common class and bourgeois values. In modern times, "liberal conservatism" is mainly related to the centre-right forces in Europe and differs greatly from far-right populist conservatism or traditional conservatism. I think the template is necessary.--Storm598 (talk) 07:02, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- The term liberal in the template is liberal in the context of international politics, not liberal in the context of U.S. politics. For example, in German Wikipedia, the category "liberalism" is used in Thatcherism articles.# # United States is not the standard of all worlds. In particular, in Europe, where the socialist tradition is strong, "liberal conservatism" represents the right-center political force and is opposed to the left-center political force called "social democracy." In Europe, "liberal" is used in an anti-socialist and classical sense. In the term "Liberal conservatism", "liberal" has at least no room for misunderstanding for Europeans, Australian, Japanese and Latin Americans.--Storm598 (talk) 09:27, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- A number of errors I made when editing American political articles come from here. The liberal conservative template has nothing to do with U.S. politics.--Storm598 (talk) 09:30, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- Keep We do have an article Liberal conservatism and a Category:Liberal conservatism, so on that basis a navbox seems reasonable, assuming that Liberal conservatism is a genuine topic. Generally this is not the place to discuss the specific content of a navbox, as long as it fits in with the requirements, per: WP:NAVBOX. I notice that there's a list of names here and a gallery at Liberal conservatism but only two of these people appear in Category:Liberal conservatism and many of the articles don't mention Liberal conservatism. Nigej (talk) 10:00, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, Storm598 has included in the navbox many articles that have absolutely no relationship with "Liberal conservatism". I shall remove those. Beyond My Ken (talk) 10:37, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- No, it was clear that much of them were related to "liberal conservatism" --Storm598 (talk) 11:33, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- However see WP:NAVBOX for what makes a good navbox. eg "1 All articles within a template relate to a single, coherent subject. 2. The subject of the template should be mentioned in every article." Nigej (talk) 11:51, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- Um... I'll try to edit it to fit this as much as possible.--Storm598 (talk) 12:00, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- Template:Golf Coach (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Unused template that was created for Special:Diff/1047799751. Template only consists of <templatedata> and no actual coding. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 02:43, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Unused and unfinished and overly specific too. Nigej (talk) 06:50, 27 January 2022 (UTC)