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Hey man im josh

The following discussion is preserved as a request for adminship that has been automatically placed on hold pending a decision as to the outcome. Please do not modify the text. The result of the discussion will be posted soon.

Voice your opinion on this candidate (talk page) (158/1/0); Scheduled to end 14:18, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Nomination

Hey man im josh (talk · contribs) – It's my pleasure to nominate Hey man im josh for adminship. Josh first came to my attention through his work as a New Page Patroller (NPP), where he has been one of the 5 most active patrollers over the last year. I found Josh to be knowledgeable in the wide range of policies and guidelines required of NPP and even better to be a friendly respondant to the new editors he encountered with a level headed voice during discussions. Josh's work clearly goes beyond just NPP, as he is also active at a variety of noticeboards including AIV and UAA. His knowledge of the expectations regarding content can also be shown through his work writing or co-writing 4 Featured Lists (with a couple of other current nominations). All-in-all I find Josh to have the right mix of policy know-how, practical experience, and disposition to make a very good admin. I hope you join me in supporting him. Barkeep49 (talk) 22:08, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Co-nomination statement

I am excited to conominate Hey man im josh. In the last 3 years he has over 200,000 edits and does all kinds of essential, back-room maintenance work. I most frequently encounter him at UAA, I have acted on dozens of his reports and never once questioned or declined one. I have also seen his exemplary work at NPP, and concur with everything in Barkeep49's statement. There is always a need for administrators willing to work in these areas, and Hey man im josh will do an excellent job. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 12:30, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: I accept the nomination. Thank you to the nominators for their kind words and their willingness to nominate me. I have never edited Wikipedia for pay and this is the only account I've ever edited with. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:18, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. Please answer these questions to provide guidance for participants:

1. Why are you interested in becoming an administrator?
A: I’ve been receiving requests and encouragement to consider becoming an administrator and, after giving it much thought, I’d like to help out. I would start out in areas I’m most comfortable with, specifically areas related to counter-vandalism (administrator intervention against vandalism and usernames for administrator attention) and processing CSD requests. Eventually I am interested in and open to helping out in other places I have experience and where there's a need.
2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?
A: My best contributions are hard to put my finger on. Content wise, it’d be the 6 featured lists I’ve helped to promote, including List of National Football League annual passing yards leaders and List of awards and honours received by Angela Merkel, the latter of which was also featured at DYK. Though, I’m probably prouder of my work at NPP, where I’ve consistently reviewed new articles and redirects while also helping to recruit and coach new users. I’m also quite proud of my anti-vandalism contributions.
3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
A: Absolutely, there’s no way to entirely avoid some type of conflict it in a collaborative environment. I do my best to keep an open mind, to avoid escalating the situation, and to try to understand the heart of the argument being made and where the person is coming from (even if participants are doing so in an unkind way), with the occasional reminder to assume good faith. At the end of the day, most of us are trying to improve Wikipedia, and I think it’s important to always keep that in mind. Some people need coaching and direction and I like to think I help to point users in the right direction when I can while also being willing to accept that I’m human, and I too can be wrong at times.
One example of a conflict I’ve been involved in was about a year back when a productive editor who I hold in high regard began to make changes to a series of articles that I follow. They began making changes in a way that I believed to be a violation of WP:SYNTH and a misrepresentation of the relevant terminology. There was a lot of back and forth and, eventually, it was brought to a discussion at the relevant WikiProject. After much discussion, local consensus was not enough for the user, and they requested that an RfC be held. The results of the RfC yielded the same result and restored the status quo, but it was a longer process than I thought necessary. I’ve had other disagreements with this user that haven’t gone this far, but they have helped to push me to grow in terms of conflict resolution and patience. I’m glad I’ve never allowed these disagreements to escalate or taint my view of that person because they’re a productive editor who I’m grateful to work with.

You may ask optional questions below. There is a limit of two questions per editor. Multi-part questions disguised as one question, with the intention of evading the limit, are disallowed. Follow-up questions relevant to questions you have already asked are allowed.

Optional question from Therapyisgood

4. Do you regret saying "8 games in the NFL makes a person notable." in a deletion discussion in which the subject was ultimately redirected? You did strike the vote, but it is a cause for concern for me. here
A: I do regret that vote, which is why I eventually struck it. Participation in of itself is not enough to meet WP:SPORTBASIC, which is what American football players must meet since the deprecation of WP:NGRIDIRON.

Optional question from Horse Eye's Back

5. How substantial was your IP editing before you created an account and are there any events, experiences, or lessons learned from that time which you think would be important for those reviewing this application to know?
A: I don't believe I did much, if any, IP editing prior to registration. I started editing because the NFL changed the URL format for players on their website and I was annoyed that links from player infoboxes to the NFL's website were not correct. I searched for the IP range I expected to be on but I'm not finding any edits from around that time frame. If there are any edits I made prior to registration then I expect that they're related to NFL player infoboxes. In short, no, I don't believe there's any relevant history that can be shared from a time before I registered.
Thank you, the only follow up I have is the standard "Do you have any conflicts of interest in regards to the NFL?" Horse Eye's Back (talk) 18:41, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I do not have any conflicts of interest in regards to the NFL. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:06, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Optional question from Edward-Woodrow

6. Under what circumstance do you think it is suitable to block a user indefinitely, as opposed to a temporary block?
A: Blocks are meant to be preventative, not punitive, so I would want to block just enough to stop the behaviours that are leading to the block. I would choose a time limited, rather than indefinite, block when it seems like it would be sufficient to stop the disruption. Additionally, one could also utilize partial blocks from articles or name spaces when appropriate.

Optional question from Valereee

7. I have to admit I'm a bit leery of a non-admin who is the #1 contributor at ANI. Can you discuss?
A: My edit count at ANI is misleading because of the non-controversial clerking that I do there. Usually that involves archiving old discussions and closing discussions where an administrator has already acted. It's a noticeboard that I regularly browse but I do not usually participate in outside of said clerking. I do not intend on taking a more active role at ANI if I pass this RfA.
Followup: Why were you clerking at ANI? I think those functions are handled by bots?
At ANI, the header states that sections inactivate for 72 hours are archived automatically, but it also states that routine matters may be archived more quickly. I found that discussions would stay open longer than necessary, leading to users commenting a couple days after the discussions had been concluded (sometimes not realizing that the issue was already "resolved"), which would then reset the timer for archiving. I feel that, in clerking, I've helped to keep the focus on the discussions that still require attention from the community and administrators.

Optional question from Lemonaka

8. What's your points of view about WP:CIR? Since there are lots of accusations on WP:ANI about that.
A:

Optional question from Homeostasis07

9. Can you elaborate a bit on what you meant in your response to question 1, where you said: "Eventually I am interested in and open to helping out in other places I have experience and where there's a need." In which other places/projects/pages do you have interest/experience, and how do you currently envisage yourself using the admin tools in those places?
A: Absolutely, thanks for the question. What I meant by that is that once I am more comfortable and experienced with the tools, I may be willing to use them in other areas. I believe it’s important to proceed slowly and to get comfortable with the basics before branching out. In situations where I’m unsure, I would defer to an admin with more experience because, when in doubt with administrative tools, it is usually better not to act than to act.
None of these are set in stone, but based on my experience, I have considered also working at requests for page protection, requests for undeletion, and possibly closing discussions at RfD. I am willing to learn and help in other areas if I’m asked to chip in elsewhere.

Optional question from Prodraxis

10. You see these four usernames reported to UAA; 1) Acme Corporations Inc., 2) Hey man im john, 3) SysopOfWookieepedia and 4) Troll12345. How do you respond to each of those reports?
A:

Optional question from BilledMammal

11. In User:BeanieFan11 and WP:BATTLEGROUND at NFL AFDs, you argued that it was appropriate to notify the NFL WikiProject of an ANI report against one of their members because the WikiProject had been mentioned and discussed in a negative manner, despite the possibility that such a notification would act as canvassing. Do you still believe that such a notification is appropriate?
A: After re-reading the discussion, I believe my views on notifying WikiProjects may have been misinterpreted. In that discussion, I primarily argued that neutral notifications to relevant WikiProjects about deletion discussions were appropriate and could lead to improvement of the articles, while also arguing that the group was not uniform in their views and voting habits.
I believe that when the conduct of a WikiProject is being discussed, as it was at that discussion, that the WikiProject should be notified. It should not be notified in an instance where a single member is under scrutiny. Prior to the WikiProject being notified of that discussion, there were two comments (1, 2) calling the conduct of the group into question. While I do think the notification may have been premature, I do believe it would have been necessary at some point given the direction that the discussion took. As with any ANI discussion, the party being discussed should be notified and given an opportunity to contribute to the discussion. With that said, the notification to the WikiProject should have been made by someone else given that the notifier was the primary focus of the discussion.
Followup: In general, what benefit do you see coming from notifying a WikiProject of an ANI discussion when the WikiProject does not collectively face the possibility of being sanctioned, and how does that benefit outweigh the canvassing impact? (As a side note, that was actually the second notification provided; the first was here.)
Generally speaking, I do not believe there is a benefit to notifying groups of discussions at ANI if the group’s behaviour is not being examined. The impact of canvassing a WikiProject could absolutely outweigh any relevant benefit brought forth by said group to the discussion. An uninvolved WikiProject that an editor is a part of is not an appropriate audience simply because the editor is a part of said group.

Optional question from Tamzin

12. Building on Valereee's Q7, many of your clerical edits to AN/I are closing short discussions that have already been resolved, restating what the actioning admin said ([1] [2] [3] for 3 recent cases). Can you explain your reasoning for such closes?
A:

Optional question from Lourdes

13. Thank you for applying. During your initial ~100-150 edits after registering, you were undertaking high-speed edits (such as, on one extreme, 8 to 10 edits in a minute regularly, and multiple times. I am giving one set of links for representative purposes:[4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11]). I just wanted your thoughts on whether you used any bots, and/or on how you gained exposure early on to the pfr and similar template qualifiers? Thank you. Lourdes 10:40, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A:

Optional question from Dolotta

14. Of the admin areas you plan to participate in, where do you have the least experience?
A:


Discussion

Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review his contributions before commenting.

Support
  1. Seems reasonable. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:21, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  2. I keep my promises. You have my support Josh. The Night Watch (talk) 14:22, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Josh is a fantastic candidate and I'm glad he's finally decided to run. I'm also most familiar with him from NPP, where apart doing a stellar job in the trenches, he helps a great deal with behind-the-scenes coordination tasks. I must have processed a dozen WP:PERM/A requests on his behalf by now, so if successful here I hope he will consider helping out there directly – it's often backlogged. – Joe (talk) 14:30, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  4. As nom. Barkeep49 (talk) 14:31, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Trusted noms, have been impressed by what I've seen of them - why not? Happy to support. Girth Summit (blether) 14:32, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Trust candidate and noms. Good luck. — Ixtal ( T / C ) ⁂ Non nobis solum. 14:33, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  7. He is a great editor who will make a great admin. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:37, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  8. 100% support. No hesitation here. Best of luck! SPF121188 (talk this way) (my edits) 14:38, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  9. I don't see why not, established productive editors should be able to deal with vandalism. Haven't seen anything of concern if candidate chooses to venture into other areas of adminship either. --TylerBurden (talk) 14:38, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  10. Editor is amazing at NPP, so I definitely support! —asparagusus (interaction) sprouts! 14:42, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  11. Per nom and NPP work.––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 14:48, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  12. Hey man, he's Josh. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 14:49, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  13. Cabayi (talk) 14:50, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  14. Per nom and seeing his work firsthand. —Locke Cole • t • c 14:50, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  15. Support obvious net-positive to the project. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:50, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  16. Ding ding ding! You win! Great editor, great person, potentially great admin. Per nom. Kline | yes? 14:51, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  17. I do not see any problems.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:54, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  18. No reason not to support. /Julle (talk) 14:56, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  19. Obviously. -Lemonaka‎ 14:57, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  20. found precious --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:05, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  21. No concerns. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 15:08, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  22. Outstanding NPP work Justiyaya 15:11, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  23. Very Strong Support. I've seen Josh many times while I was also fighting against vandalism. Candidate is trustworthy with the mop. Outstanding Move! 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 15:12, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  24. Support. In an ideal world I would like to see more content work; the FLs in question aren't particularly content dense (though some FLs can be). However, this is balanced, I believe, by the sheer quantity of work he's done at NPP. I cannot evaluate the entirety of it given the volume, but I trust those who have, and if you can do that much work without people getting upset at you then you'll be a good addition to the mop corps. Vanamonde (Talk) 15:16, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Outside of candidates who are truly exceptional in a particular area (normally technical), I will only nominate candidates who I feel understand content and understand it well. For most people that's best demonstrated by them doing the work themselves, but in Josh's case it really was FL plus their work at NPP, with NPP being more representative of admin type work with content in a lot of circumstances than doing content oneself. It is definitely my assessment from my examination of Josh's work over an extended period of time that he has the skills I think we're both looking for. Best. Barkeep49 (talk) 15:26, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  25. Support – of course. Excellent editor; no concerns. I actually thought they were an admin until I found out a couple months ago that they weren't. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 15:18, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  26. Support. I see this editor around the place quite often, always in a positive way: constructive, knowledgeable, helpful. I also trust the nominators. Neiltonks (talk) 15:20, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  27. Support: An excellent editor who has consistently done good work at NPP. Will be a great asset to the admin corps. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 15:21, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  28. Not at all surprised to see this RfA, except maybe for the fact that it didn't happen sooner. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 15:22, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  29. Very Strong Support—through my numerous interactions with josh, I have found him a dedicated and skilled contributor. Absolute admin material right here! re-adding my vote after it was accidentally removed by someone else 〜 Festucalex • talk 15:25, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  30. Strong support excellent candidate overall. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 15:27, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  31. Support Net positive! Tails Wx 15:29, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  32. Support: there's so many things I could say here, Josh is truly one of the best. I don't see any glaring problems that would put a shadow over his otherwise great accomplishments (especially in NPP work), so this is an easy support. Schminnte (talk • contribs) 15:33, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  33. Yknow, I'd thought to myself before that Josh would make a great admin. Puts in SO much work at noticeboards and combatting vandalism; proud to support. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 15:40, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  34. I figure if one gets the "I thought he was an admin" reaction from me, they're usually worth supporting. Nohomersryan (talk) 15:42, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  35. No concerns. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 15:42, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  36. Yes! 100% Absolutely! Josh is an outstanding admin candidate! BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:43, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  37. Support. Hard not to support someone with a staggering 47,000 patrols. Thank you so much for your contributions to NPP. Also has a great temperament. No concerns here. Best of luck! –Novem Linguae (talk) 15:46, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  38. Support. Hey man, im admin. Good candidate, great track-record, valuable editor, no concerns, net positive, et cetera. 〜 Askarion ✉ 15:49, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  39. Support no issues from my perspective. (Although there is an apostrophe missing and some rather unorthodox capitalisation in "im"...) --DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:51, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  40. Satisfies my criteria.~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:58, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  41. See no reason not to. AryKun (talk) 16:08, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  42. Support Would be a great addition. North8000 (talk) 16:13, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  43. Support: Seems like a good candidate to me judging by his edits on vandalism. NASCARfan0548 (alt) ↗ 16:14, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  44. In my limited interactions with him off-wiki, I've found him to be a nice and friendly person. In my opinion, these are the most important qualities for anyone, let alone an admin. AstonishingTunesAdmirer 連絡 16:22, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  45. Haven't seen any reason to oppose. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 16:45, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  46. Support, awesome editor! Their work at NPP is great. --JackFromWisconsin (talk | contribs) 16:47, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  47. Support: Why not. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:49, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  48. Easy support. Thanks for volunteering. – bradv 16:52, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  49. Support valuable contributor, positive interaction where I recall working with them. Star Mississippi 16:53, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  50. Support easily, per nominators — TheresNoTime (talk • they/them) 16:57, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  51. Support Yet another "I thought they were already an admin" user. :) – dudhhr talkcontribssheher 17:28, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  52. Strong support Content creator? Check. Vandal fighter? Check. Civil and mature? Check. Meets all of my criteria. To be honest, Josh is one of the editors I've been keeping eyes on as potential additions to the mop corps for a long time. #prodraxis connect 17:34, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  53. Strong support Have seen this user for years doing great work. Absolute net positive to the team. SEMMENDINGER (talk) 17:37, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  54. Support This guy has the work schedule of a supercomputer when it comes to NPP. They're a great candidate for my first RfA vote and also the bit. Deauthorized. (talk) 17:41, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  55. Support. I recall no negative interactions with him. I admire the work at NPP. SWinxy (talk) 17:44, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  56. Had thought Josh already held the mop, until finding out otherwise a few weeks ago. Happy to offer my support. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 17:50, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  57. Support I see him around enough to know he would make an excellent admin.Skycloud86 (talk) 17:58, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  58. Good anti-vandalism work.zoglophie 18:00, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  59. Support great candidate and brilliant work at NPP, best wishes Josey Wales Parley 18:01, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  60. Support. I work with and communicate with Josh pretty much every single day that I edit, he does FANTASTIC AIV work, +1 to this. Yoshi24517 (Chat) (Online) 18:07, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  61. Support. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:19, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  62. Support. Full disclosure: I worked on List of awards and honours received by Angela Merkel with HMIJ, and I know him from NPP, so I may be slightly biased. However, setting aside the fact that I think he's extraordinarily pleasant to work with, HMIJ has contributed an incredible amount of value to WP. He is highly active in the NPP community (and has shown deep and broad knowledge of lots of different aspects of WP), and he's always helpful and constructive in his editing. HMIJ embodies what I think admins should be like; people who know a lot about WP, who are helpful and kind to others, and who are willing to say "Well, I have no clue." and leave a task to someone else when that's appropriate. I have no doubt that his adminship would be a significant improvement to the project and its community. Actualcpscm scrutinize, talk 18:23, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  63. Support thanks for volunteering! Elli (talk | contribs) 18:30, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  64. Support. Fantastic editor with a collaborative mindset. Active in areas where tools are needed, will be a great addition to the admin corps. ULPS (talk • contribs) 18:33, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  65. Support, does a GREAT job at helping out with WP. Sheep (talk • he/him) 18:37, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  66. Support thanks so much for volunteering your time with this project. jengod (talk) 19:01, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  67. Support, no substantive reason to oppose. I have misgiving, such as the >90% of the edits on the time card falling into a mon-fri 8 hour work day editing schedule and the sheer volume of bot-like edits, but nothing which I can really pick out as overtly a problem and their positive contributions are undeniable. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 19:12, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  68. Support, Is a great candidate, does great AIV and UAA work! Seawolf35 (talk) 19:15, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  69. Support as conominator sorry for the delay, work ended up being much busier than I thought it would be. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 19:17, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  70. Support. Trustworthy contributor. Binksternet (talk) 19:19, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  71. Support: well done for your work at NPP. 141Pr {contribs} 19:23, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  72. My inner grammar policeman wants to oppose because of your username but the rest of me feels sufficient confidence when I see your name on my watchlist that I couldn't withhold support over pedantry. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:33, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  73. I have seen the work he's done and am in full support for adminship. ― Blaze WolfTalkblaze__wolf 19:38, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  74. Support: Very solid candidate. Helpful and informative FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:43, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  75. Strong Support....'cause I'm glad to see this. Seen him around and take this moment to appreciate what he's done around here. Best wishes Volten001 ☎ 19:45, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  76. Support - Seen them around a lot, always found them impressive. With regard to Q7, Josh's ANI clerking has indeed been helpful, though I'm sure that given their temperament other contributions from them on that noticeboard would also be highly valued. ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 19:51, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  77. Support Positive impressions from seeing their edits and positive interactions with them as well, no concerns. Skynxnex (talk) 20:08, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  78. Emphatically. I'm very familiar with his work at FLC and confident in his content knowledge, and my impression of his patrol work is (expectedly, then) positive. I've been a bit skeptical of the "ANI clerking", but he's a very chill guy and I'd rather someone inclined to defuse than diffuse conflict there. Vaticidalprophet 20:08, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  79. Support Without question. Curbon7 (talk) 20:10, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  80. Support This editor consistently promotes a collaborative atmosphere here. I'm confident they will excel as an admin. Rkieferbaum (talk) 20:19, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  81. Super happy to see you run! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 20:25, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  82. Support I know this is something people say all the time at these sorts of RFAs, but I didn't realize you weren't an admin until just now. Partofthemachine (talk) 20:53, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  83. Stephen 21:08, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  84. Support, in a change from my previous votes, I have actually interacted with Josh. It was him just being a useful soul cleaning up vandalism, this time on plant pages. While he's not as occasionally obsessive as I would like in my Platonic ideal of a RfA candidate, he's a solid choice. Also, since this is in public, edit more plant pages people. I've had to slack off this month and the plants need your help. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 21:19, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  85. Big support, glad to see Josh at RfA. One of the names I've seen regularly beating me to the punch when it comes to counter-vandalism, and an all round huge positive to the project. WindTempos (talk • contribs) 21:56, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  86. Support no-brainer. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 21:59, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  87. Support I've seen them doing antivandalism work several times. They have a kind disposition and avoid biting newcomers. Sincerely, Novo Tape (She/Her)My Talk Page 22:03, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  88. Duh. Courcelles (talk) 22:05, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  89. Support very glad to see this nomination Mccapra (talk) 22:10, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  90. SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:13, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  91. Support prolific NPP reviewer who would make a great admin. Yeeno (talk) 22:14, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  92. Support per a lot, especially SPF's comments below. GrammarDamner how are things? 22:17, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  93. Support. Going to do fine.—Alalch E. 22:20, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  94. Support I think he has the right skills and attitude to be a good admin. Schazjmd (talk) 22:37, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  95. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:41, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  96. Very Strong Support Absolute no-brainer. - Bringingthewood (talk) 22:45, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  97. Support great work at npp, good content work Atlantic306 (talk) 22:47, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  98. Support Leijurv (talk) 22:51, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  99. Support Seen them around NPP and other places. Very high overall.Geoff | Who, me? 22:53, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  100. WP:100 :) Mz7 (talk) 22:56, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  101. Oppose: User hasn’t capitalized their name in their username, clearly doesn’t understand WP:MOSCAP. [Joke] - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 00:47, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  102. Support - no concerns, I thought they were already an admin. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 23:18, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  103. Support. I have seen him around several times recently. He takes on hard work, does it well and with a good demeanor. I trust he will make a good administrator. Donner60 (talk) 23:23, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  104. Support Heck yes. I see him around doing admin-adjacent work all the time, and doing it well. Joyous! Noise! 23:34, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  105. Support Thought he already was one. Andre🚐 23:34, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  106. Support, I avoid participating in RfAs, but in Josh's case, I am prepared to break my silence. Solid editor with a cheerful attitude, I haven't seen him put a foot wrong yet. Cheers, PKT(alk) 23:39, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  107. Support Thank you for volunteering! I normally dislike ANI clerking, but their explanation is convincing, as a way of reducing further tension. Clearly an exceptionally kind and friendly admin who will make Wikipedia a welcoming place for newbies. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 23:41, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  108. Support Why not? -FASTILY 23:44, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  109. Support. ✗plicit 23:47, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  110. Of what I remember, I have only had good experiences with this user. ✶Mitch199811✶ 23:49, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  111. Support. I've had seen you around and assumed you were an admin already. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 00:00, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  112. Support - Unequivocally and whole-heartedly. Excellent choice.Onel5969 TT me 00:04, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  113. KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 00:28, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  114. Ktrimi991 (talk) 00:29, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  115. Support - Why not? ~ Sav (u • t • c) 00:52, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  116. Support A suitable candidate for adminship. The person who loves reading (talk) 01:03, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  117. ʇɹoddnS as nominator. But nah for real, I thought this user was already an administrator; they certainly have the knowledge and expertise, especially in regards to maintenance edits (such as redirects and categories), drafts and other various types of wiki patrolling. My few interactions with josh the lowercased man who likes to greet fellow editors have been pretty positive. No concerns from me, ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 01:08, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  118. Support An editor who has made huge contributions in both NPP and Counter-Vandalism. Always pleasant to interact with. TartarTorte 01:11, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  119. Support Good candidate. Chetsford (talk) 01:46, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  120. Not a jerk, has a clue. And I hope he refuses to answer the UAA question even though he works there. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:48, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  121. Support. I have seen the candidate at NPP and have been impressed by the depth and professionalism of their work. CapitalSasha ~ talk 02:05, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  122. Support. Major edit history and extremely active. Trusted. Well-rounded personality. Noms by very trusted individuals. ~Gwennie🐈｟💬 📋｠ 02:08, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  123. Support - No concerns. Lightoil (talk) 02:37, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  124. Support - Experienced and trusted user. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 02:53, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  125. Support - It never occurred to me that you're not an admin already, and we definitely need more admins! --RockstoneSend me a message! 02:59, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  126. Support. I am familiar with Josh based on their prolific and high-quality work in NPP and AfDs (he is of course also active in anti-vandalism work). Most of their article created are stub/start/redirect/disambiguation articles, but I find their overall content experience to be all right based on the featured lists taken together with NPP (which I would consider to be content-related). I am slightly skeptical with ANI clerking in general but in this case very little appears problematic. Overall, this is an easy support. VickKiang (talk) 03:14, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  127. (edit conflict) Ah yes, another instance of me thinking "you're already an admin". Helping with backend stuff of WP, still great just like content creation. And, lots of experience here and there.Sees that user pretty often while doing anti-vandal work. ~~2NumForIce (speak|edits) 03:18, 20 September 2023 (UTC) (edited 03:22, 20 September 2023 (UTC): add more content)[reply]
  128. Support - I have no concerns. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 04:03, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  129. Hey man im supporting Folly Mox (talk) 04:16, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  130. Support, very good addition to the corps. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:19, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  131. Support per above. Graham87 (talk) 04:20, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  132. Support I checked out the candidate's contributions and I trust the candidate to protect content and content creators. I think that normally I fret about content but the editor's NPP experience is great. I also trust the judgement of the nominator Barkeep49. Lightburst (talk) 04:24, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  133. Hey support im dad. GeraldWL 04:26, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  134. Hey man I Support. Another "I thought he already was an admin" !votes. Daniel Case (talk) 04:58, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  135. Support No concerns. Thank you for reviewing my redirects. :) Scorpions1325 (talk) 05:17, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  136. Support—Eminently qualified. Kurtis (talk) 06:03, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  137. Support: Trusted user. Toadette (let's chat together) 07:05, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  138. Support Good luck! --Vacant0 (talk) 07:48, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  139. Support I've only seen positive contributions from josh. DFlhb (talk) 07:53, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  140. Support Excellent editor who I long thought would make a good admin. A welcome addition. scope_creepTalk 08:45, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  141. Support, now there's a name I'm awfully glad to see at RfA. I don't see any reason that the ANI clerking or the like is a significant cause for concern. Seraphimblade Talk to me 08:47, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  142. Support Had a nagging doubt about declining this user's CSD nominations, but I spot checked the last couple of hundred and can't see any issue with them. Combined with contributing to several featured lists (which, while not as gruelling as a FAC still require work and responding to feedback) means I don't have any concerns. I'm not bothered about ANI clerking as they've given a justifiable reason to do it - the only thing I'd say is sometimes just leaving a thread to die at ANI instead of formally closing it can be the best option. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:49, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  143. Support If you are an active contributer to Wikipedia, there is now way you would have not come across Josh. He has helped me out a tonne as a New Page Patroller (NPP) as I frequently make new redirects to important articles. Obvious support. PadFoot2008 (talk) 08:52, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  144. Support Trusted and well qualified for the admin mopIsla 🏳️‍⚧ 09:29, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  145. Easy "per nom" support for a well qualified candidate.--John Cline (talk) 09:57, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  146. Support: Josh is one among those who inspired me to become an NPP reviewer. If not them, who else deserves to be an admin!!Thilsebatti (talk) 10:38, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  147. Support - great work at NPP. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 11:09, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  148. Support. I'd wondered if he would apply soon. SilverLocust 💬 11:29, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  149. Support. Seen them around the place. Has a clue, seems like a fine addition. Anarchyte (talk) 11:39, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  150. Support I don’t normally voice my opinion on RFA but I think hey man I’m josh is completely qualified. I have seen them around fighting vandalism and being an overall competent user. Nagol0929 (talk) 11:42, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  151. Support Hey man, this feels like the most exiting thing that has happened for a while. Seen you all over the place, I don't see a reason why shouldn't be trusted with the mop. NotAGenious (talk) 12:03, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  152. Support: General good editing that could be improved with the admin toolkit, seems to have the right disposition towards other editors. Good luck! ~ Pbritti (talk) 13:00, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  153. Support Silcox (talk) 13:17, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  154. Support. I create redirects regularly as part of my work in the requested moves space, and Josh has been one of the most consistent and diligent users I've seen reviewing those redirects. I was surprised to learn he wasn't an admin already, and I believe he would be a strong addition to the admin corps. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 13:49, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  155. Support for this highly productive editor whose work patrolling new pages demonstrates the knowledge, patience, and empathy I prefer in an administrator.~TPW 14:23, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  156. Support I strongly feel that I am familiar with his counter-vandalism work. --Victor Trevor (talk) 14:58, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  157. Support. After extensive review, I can't come up with any reason to oppose this nominee, so I guess I'll have to support! BD2412 T 15:13, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  158. Support. Always helpful edits and demeanour. Loopy30 (talk) 15:19, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose
  1. Describes AC/DS alerts to be "retaliatory" even when he is editing the concerning area.[12] He believes experienced editors dealing with vandals and disruptive editors in a very contentious area can be be blocked without warning,[13][14] and deems such bad blocks to be "good block".[15]
    The content creation is also mainly full of stub and disambiguation pages.[16] I hope this candidate will spend more time in content creation. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 02:44, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    For what it's worth about the content creation, Josh has created quite a few FLs from lists with almost no prose whatsoever. These are not listed at xTools as they are not creations, but rather expansions. Perhaps not the most prolific content editor, but he has experience in the space as well as at NPP that is not shown by a simple xTools page. ULPS (talk • contribs) 13:55, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Having read over the discussion you reference, you were in the distinct minority of people who rather vociferously argued the conduct that Hey man im josh pointed out—edit warring to put incendiary and dubiously-at-best sourced claims in the lead of a BLP—was insufficient for said user to be blocked. The full discussion is here, for reference. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 15:03, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral
General comments
  • I feel the need to add something about this candidate. Hey man im josh hasn't just grown as an editor (far beyond myself,) he takes time to help ANYONE who reaches out, even if they've had a spat in the past, which is my experience with this individual. He has the proper temperament, he's understanding, thorough, and in an odd way, helped me keep my feet under me on this project, whether he knows that or not. Time constraints don't allow me to participate in the project like I want to, but I can say that I have a better understanding of what the project is, and my role within, thanks to him. I know this is just stuff that can go under the "Support" !vote, but the impact he's had on my experience with this project deserves its own space. SPF121188 (talk this way) (my edits) 17:33, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    They've only been here 18 months, effectively; they're pretty new. Give them a chance. SN54129 20:24, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hopefully I didn't word this in a fashion that was misunderstood; I support this user 100%. SPF121188 (talk this way) (my edits) 20:43, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Rather bewildering conversation, this. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:32, 20 September 2023 (UTC) [reply]
SN is right. We're missing the trees and Eeng for the woods, for a change. Lourdes 10:45, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I guess I have a bit of a COI here, but can someone help me understand why multi-part UAA questions like Q10 don't fall under WP:RFA's The two-question limit cannot be circumvented by asking questions that require multiple answers (e.g. asking the candidate what they would do in each of five scenarios)? It's certainly a practice with a long pedigree, but that sentence does seem to apply, right? Extraordinary Writ (talk) 05:49, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    They should fall under the rule. Prodraxis, requesting you to stick to two examples. Thank you. Lourdes 10:45, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I disagree. The intent there was about different scenarios. These are the same scenario, just with different usernames to assess. It isn't like they asked about scenarios at DRV, AFD, UAA, and RFPP. - jc37 11:07, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I concur with @Lourdes. This is a multi-part question, and to quote policy: “There is a limit of two questions per editor. Multi-part questions disguised as one question, with the intention of evading the limit, are disallowed.” - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 11:13, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Again, the intent was disparate questions. But if this is being interpreted this way, maybe we need another RFC to clarify again. - jc37 11:16, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    My interpretation is the same as Jc37's; they're the same question, with multiple scenarios to allow editors to fully understand the answer. BilledMammal (talk) 11:21, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I guess it can be read either way. In such a case of different scenarios, what if Prodraxis had given 10 examples? I am not trying to make a point; but the two-part limit was brought in to save us common sense interpretation of how much is too much. Thanks, Lourdes 11:24, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    They didn't. Though I'd agree that 10 examples might be pushing it. But when doing these sort of things, so to get a decent understanding, asking only 2 examples, is going to be a problem of Selection bias/Sampling bias (like cherry-picking). I think 3-5 examples is probably just about right. It would match typical practices of fact-checking among other things. - jc37 12:22, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I do not understand how selection bias is altered by allowing an editor to make up five examples rather than making up just two. This isn't comparable to fact-checking, because hypothetical examples are not facts. The editor in question selected all of the examples regardless. To put it another way, increasing the number of cherries per person doesn't in any way stop them from being picked. ~TPW 14:17, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I think giving ten examples is like asking for a five hundred word reply; it's permitted by the rules, but the community would not blame the candidate for ignoring the request. BilledMammal (talk) 12:39, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Some previous discussions about this from a cursory search of the WT:RfA archives: [17][18][19]. Consensus seems to be that they're fine if they're relevant to the candidate's Q1. The multi-part question limitation is intended to stop two unrelated questions from being asked in one (e.g. "Can you explain CSD criteria X in your own words and also will you open to recall?"). ansh.666 15:45, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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