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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Beyond My Ken (talk | contribs) at 02:48, 2 January 2010 (→‎Stephen J. Press). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

To hell with wikipedia and deletionists.

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See my talk page. --Muhammad(talk) 07:01, 25 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RfA

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One more reply on my talk page. Best, HJMitchell You rang? 02:57, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I refer you to Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons: "Never use self-published books, zines, websites, forums, blogs or tweets as sources for material about a living person, unless written or published by the subject."

Please restore the deletia. Bustter (talk) 23:38, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just realized that the deleted reference is not to Ed's blog, but to a third-party blog - http://www.itsdeadlicious.com/2009_03_01_archive.html.

However, this reference is valuable because the blog hosts the scanned image of Ed's 1966 artwork. I have confirmed with another reliable source, a collector of this title (Mister Stephen Bissette) that this image actually does appear in Modern Monsters #1. The reference refers to this utterly reliable image, not to text. Bustter (talk) 00:10, 28 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SJP Bio

Where would you get a reference to someone's specific diploma from a given school? I can't imagine any source of such a thing, (due to privacy of information laws)and then you would create a catch 22, you have no degree after your name without a source and there is no source other then a copy of the degree, which we won't allow?Д-рСДжП,ДС 22:06, 28 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, they're MY degrees! I earned them, so I know I have them. Thus I have a right to have them on my own website, and this is how the writer of my bio got to link to them for the bio. :) Д-рСДжП,ДС 00:21, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Whoaa.... I didn't write my own Bio. This was an effort that started that way, but I merely provide all the information, and OTHERS finally moved the bio to live space. DigitalC, Kelapstick, DGG, etc. etc., all had input on this, and Platiumphotographer moved the article from my sandbox, where it was developing to a page. I was ONLY speaking of the citations for the Diplomas. This is NOT self promotion or COI. There was information like the diplomas that only I had access to. Check before you act, please. It was not I who decided that I deserved that article.

LOOK at the history before you accuse me.Д-рСДжП,ДС 00:46, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, problem, I will be glad to look at your edit history, the article history, Platinumphotographer's edit history, including his user page which you wrote for him. Not a problem, glad to look whenever anyone gets nasty and invites me to. --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 00:51, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am most decidedly NOT Platinumphotographer. I understand what sockpuppetry is. Are we clear now? Д-рСДжП,ДС 00:56, 29 December 2009 (UTC) [reply]

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John254 is back

Kudos to Alison and J.delanoy for their huge, immensely damaging rangeblock of all at&t DSL IPs in the entire San Francisco Bay Area [1] [2]. What was never considered at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/John254, however, was that I can edit right through their rangeblock. Nice try :) StephenBrown167 (talk) 01:19, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lol. You are one hell of a lot more fun than any other sock puppet I've encountered on wikipedia. Thanks for letting me know. --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 01:21, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

email

You have email, though I guess most of it is superfluous now. - 2/0 (cont.) 02:40, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Could you look in at the talk page? Thanks! jmcw (talk) 14:37, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You seem concerned with the quality of referenced used in the martial arts articles of Wiki. Could I invite you to join the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Martial_arts#Martial_arts_reference_standards? Your input would be appreciated. jmcw (talk) 10:59, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SPI

I started one here for Drsjpdc. Feel free to comment as I feel that this will be quite contentious. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 19:48, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I hear ya on that one. I have a feeling though that this will get ugly, so feel free to add some more evidence. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 19:53, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's already gotten ugly, his meat puppets are going after me now. --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 19:55, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
DigitalC seems to be related from the looks of it. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 20:06, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Certainly he's here to add more meat to the article, at least. --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 20:08, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm prepared to add him to the SPI if you think that they are that closely related. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 20:10, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think the SPI will flush out however many socks there are. I seriously think that Drsjpdc and Platinumphotographer are sock puppets, and there may be others, but getting rid of the doctor means the article can actually be written as a clean BLP, and it will also warn him off of more sock and meat puppetry. Also, frankly, I'd have to look for the proof on DigitalC and I'm really tired of looking at Stephen J. Press's ego. Aren't you? --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 20:13, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Haha, my day's only begun. I've noticed less interaction between Digital and Sjd, but there is still a lot of Digital on Stephen's page itself. They both edit chiropractic related articles, but Digital is more diverse on what he edits here. I'm all for it though. I just got your e-mail, but as you said earlier on this page, they really are starting to get hilarious. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 20:16, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Good, you have a sense of humor. I keep losing mine on wikipedia. That's not good. Especially when it's this funny. --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 20:18, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Check your e-mail. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 20:28, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Phew, it's over. I was just about to add more evidence to the fire. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 20:48, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedians are not as dumb as the good doctor and his sock and meat army think we are. It's not like it's the first time anyone has tried this set of ploys on wikipedia. --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 20:50, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There are some new developments on the page. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 21:40, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Where did you remove that post to? Kevin Rutherford (talk) 21:41, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He just copied some information from the dr's talk page, but it was evidence already considered by Alison, so I removed it. The case needs to just be closed up, the dr and his sock blocked, the article cleaned up, then done with, don't you think? --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 21:53, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Except that he isn't blocked! He should be. The sockmaster is always blocked, but often for a shorter time, which is odd in my book. -- Brangifer (talk) 03:20, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That's actually okay. It's a discretionary decision on the part of the blocking admin based on the events that have happened. With drsjpdc's behavior, he'll be getting himself blocked in no time, so don't worry about it. --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 04:08, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Might as well, but I wouldn't remove the information for fear of starting an edit war. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 21:58, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Probably right there. --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 21:59, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Nevermind, Allison responded with support to you. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:00, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I couldn't explain it in the post, sorry. This is some really aggressive editing on the doctor's behalf. The only time I've seen anything this hostile was about a minor actress and her "movie," and that and her whole sock and meat factory were eventually closed down. This is just too much. --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 22:03, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
So could you explain it to me here or on my talk page? I agree with you, was just trying to help, and am still mystified as to why you and Alison objected. TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 22:28, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RFA

[3] Oops - my apologies - you have every right to make a comment and the indent was incorrect - as was my support of it - mislead by the discussion and not reading close enough. My apologies. Pedro :  Chat  22:25, 29 December 2009 (UTC) [reply]

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I replied. : ) Tim1357 (talk) 19:31, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your signature

It seems that there is no link from your signature to either your user page or your talk page. This is against policy. Please amend your signature to link to at least one of the above. Mjroots (talk) 15:32, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey! At least you got a handwritten message and not a templated warning. Thanks for fixing the signature. Happy New year! Mjroots (talk) 17:28, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Golconda Express

Thank you for participating at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Golconda Express. When you comment at an Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, it is helpful to explain why you want to keep or delete an article, rather than just saying "Keep" or "Delete". Nonetheless, I am grateful for the "Keep" from you, since I was the one who added some references to the article. - Eastmain (talk) 21:44, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that it's a lousy image -- it's just that it's lousy whether it's big or small, and if it's bigger at least it doesn't look like a postage stamp. I've got no strong feelings about it one way or the other and, like you, I'm not sure the guy is really notable anyway. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:36, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I'll split the difference and see if we can both live with it. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:41, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've pretty much done all the cleanup I've intended to do on the article. At this point I'm just monitoring it.

I'm rather surprised no one's brought it to AFD on notability grounds, but if it does go, I don't want anything like deleting his publications to contribute to the assessment, which should be based on whether he's notable or not. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:47, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]