Talk:25 (Adele album)/Archive 1

Archive 1

Draft (no longer needed... deleted or history merge?)

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Draft:25 (Adele album) is no longer needed. Can someone please delete the page or complete a history merge? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:18, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Redirects

I created song redirects, which can be expanded when appropriate:

• Hello (Adele song)  Done
• Send My Love (To Your New Lover)‎  Done, charted on the Billboard Hot 100
• I Miss You (Adele song)‎
• When We Were Young (Adele song)  Done
• Remedy (Adele song)‎, charted on the Billboard Hot 100 and in France, Germany, and Switzerland  Done
• Water Under the Bridge (song)‎  Done, charted on the Billboard Hot 100 and in France and Germany
• River Lea (song), charted in France and Germany  Done
• Love in the Dark (song), charted in France and Germany
• Million Years Ago (song)  Done, charted in Belgium, France, and Germany
• All I Ask (Adele song)  Done, charted in France
• Sweetest Devotion‎, charted in France

Happy editing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:23, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

"Send My Love (To Your New Lover)" has been redirected. See Talk:Send My Love (To Your New Lover) to participate in an ongoing discussion re: notability. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:46, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Second single

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Adele confirmed during theBBC special that her second single would be When We Were Young.

http://www.digitalspy.com/music/news/a677027/adeles-next-single-will-apparently-be-when-we-were-young/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.151.174.83 (talk) 18:27, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Apparently, not confirmed. —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 18:33, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Why is When We Were Young not an article yet? Too slow, Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.154.147.214 (talk) 20:44, 20 November 2015 (UTC) Another day later and still no article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.184.160 (talk) 03:30, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Update: There is now an article for the song. It has not been confirmed as a single but has charted in many countries. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:24, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Edit warring

@Tomica and Lkaliba: Stop your edit war immediately and discuss the changes you want to make. Don't disrupt to prove a point. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 21:57, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Album credits

http://www.discogs.com/Adele-25/release/7748058 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.198.251.109 (talk) 22:22, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Image of Greg Kurstin

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I replaced the image of Madonna with one of Greg Kurstin, who actually worked on the album, but my edit was reverted. Can we discuss who would be more appropriate to illustrate, or find a way to include both? It makes more sense to picture people who worked on the album, not those who inspired the album. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:54, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Update: I re-added an image of Kurstin, then staggered the Madonna image to display below. Works for me, unless others still want to discuss which is more appropriate if two is too many. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:57, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

My edit summary says it. If Greg Kurstin then why not the others? —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 23:57, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Why not who others? I'd be fine with including additional images of people who worked on the album. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:00, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Ratings

If we get ratings from Rolling Stone, Spin, and AllMusic, then PopMatters, Paste, and Slant Magazine get removed, do you all agree? Please, lets come up with some consensus what ratings are taken.The Cross Bearer (talk) 08:38, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Record

On top of breaking the NSYNC record for most album sales in one week, the page should mention that she also broke the Britney Spears record of highest first week sales by a female artist (Spears held the record with Oops I Did It Again in 2000). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.59.106.25 (talk) 19:08, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

It did not take a week, it took closer to just three days of the sales week to surpass 'N Sync's record. http://search.proquest.com.ezproxy3.library.arizona.edu/docview/1737419918/fulltext/BB1284A8DE5D4594PQ/58?accountid=8360 (Abbisabel (talk) 08:11, 28 September 2016 (UTC))

@Abbisabel: That reference is behind a Pro Quest paywall restricted by the University of Arizona. Do you have one that is accessible link? Karst (talk) 11:32, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Credits

I have went to a great length to type up the whole credits and everything right here in my sandbox, for someone to greatly utilize.The Cross Bearer (talk) 13:35, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

• I added the written by and produced by to each song.The Cross Bearer (talk) 14:23, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Why is Ryan Tedder's pic here?

Did he do something profound? Is he important? Is he relevant? 2601:40A:4000:8BCD:4906:E3DA:6524:A97F (talk) 05:17, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Apparently he is more relevant than you. Why do you ask such non-sense questions? Read the caption under picture and you will see why his picture is here! — Tom^(T2ME) 11:28, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Canada Sales

https://twitter.com/erintainment/status/670993029734522880

no 1 306 k

Unreliable source won't be used. —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 14:49, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

1.000.000 http://www.fyimusicnews.ca/articles/2016/04/27/adeles-25-has-now-sold-1m-copies-canada — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.106.206.76 (talk) 22:25, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Argentina

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Hello! 25 debuted at No. 1 in Argentina (http://www.diariodecultura.com.ar/rankings/los-discos-mas-vendidos-14/) and it went Gold (20,000 copies) [1]

Best albums of 2015

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http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/50-best-albums-of-2015-20151201/adele-25-20151130

Germany

25's 2x platinum certification in Germany is still missing source. Please be quicker when it comes to adding facts or make the site public for edits again! Thanks... --213.157.11.157 (talk) 13:16, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Where the album was written

Reading this article, you'd think most of the album was written in the US. In an interview with Shad, and talking about the writing process, Adele said 'I'd done the whole record in England, pretty much'. Can we somehow get this into the page so it reflects what actually happened, ie the vast majority was written in the UK?

Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZr646gOAwQ, from 12:20 onwards.

chart fact

"Adele breaks UK record for biggest second week album sales" http://www.musicweek.com/news/read/adele-breaks-uk-record-for-biggest-second-week-album-sales/063579 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.198.251.109 (talk) 19:33, 4 December 2015 (UTC) According to this source http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6785931/adele-25-second-week-sales-us The final sales figures are in for the second week of Adele’s 25. Nielsen Music reports that it sold 1.11 million in pure album sales in the seven days ending Dec. 3 in the U.S. As earlier reported, 25 is now the first album to sell a million copies in two different weeks since Nielsen began tracking point-of-sale purchases in 1991. , so we need to change US'figure to 4,490,000 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.87.216.31 (talk) 02:37, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

BPI record reference doesn't work

Ref #179:

British album certifications – Adele – 25". British Phonographic Industry. Retrieved 4 December 2015. Enter 25 in the field Keywords. Select Title in the field Search by. Select album in the field By Format. Select Platinum in the field By Award. Click Search

I go to http://www.bpi.co.uk/certified-awards/search.aspx and tried the instruction above. It's said "Please use standard letters and characters only. You must supply at least 3 characters in your search". How am I supposed to find the record of 25?--fireattack (talk) 05:55, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Remedy sample

I believe that it is acceptable to use the sample of an album track. I have added lots of composition details, reception details, etc. The sample should not be removed without further discussion here. --MaranoFan (talk) 11:33, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

It is unacceptable since we should limit ourselves to usage of non-free content. Please familiarize yourself with WP:NFCC and not go overboard. You have already added samples for "Hello" and "WWWY" and thats enough to understand nuances about the songs on this album. You don't need a third sample. I'm also inviting J Milburn for this discussion. —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 11:54, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Can I make a suggestion? First of all, yes, I agree with IndianBio, having three samples in the article it's too much and fails the criteria. However, I read the caption for "Remedy" sample and it's pretty rational. I would suggest removing the "Hello" sample since it's not really helpful in the 25 article and it is also present in its own article. That's the best option according to me. — Tom^(T2ME) 13:21, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

I am actually okay with Tom's suggestion. Even though I do think all of the three samples have merit in this very article, I think that the removal of the "Hello" sample from here would be the least detrimental to the reader, of the three. --MaranoFan (talk) 14:05, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

And I have temporarily removed the "Hello" sample, so that we don't have to display the "non-free" tag. When consensus is established, action can be taken accordingly. --MaranoFan (talk) 14:28, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes I believe its better now. I would say still wait for Milburn to take a look into the article once. —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 16:21, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2015

The CD liner credits the following engineering staff on "Remedy". Mike Piersante & Rich Ric, assisted by Martin Hollis & John Prestage. These four individuals are missing from the current page. 92.24.45.231 (talk) 22:59, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Kharkiv07 (T) 09:55, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Belgium

The album reached 7x platinum in Belgium source. To be added fast please! --94.16.72.108 (talk) 13:55, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Adele proposal

 Done

Just a reminder that there is an ongoing discussion regarding the potential creation of WikiProject Adele. All comments are welcome and appreciated! MaranoFan (talk) 11:56, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Netherlands

25 reached 8x platinum in the Netherlands. source.--94.16.70.53 (talk) 15:48, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Certifications has to come from the NVPI not random news agencies. —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 17:54, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 January 2016

Adele plays in a league of its own. In the fifth week at retail '25' moved another unbelievable 2,505,000 copies, the second best result after its initial week. In the United States the album sold 1,16 million last week, in United Kingdom 449,900, in France 182,300, in Germany estimated 160,000, in Canada 152,800, and in Australia 91,100. Till to the deadline for this week's hitlist (December 24), '25' sold a total of stellar 14,232,000 copies so far, the superior winner on the Year-End Chart 2015!

http://mediatraffic.de/ 80.194.11.101 (talk) 19:54, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

• Not done. Unreliable source. Btljs (talk) 21:04, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

certications

not all the certifications are in accordance to the actual sales/shipment.

Elaborate. —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 01:07, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Deletion discussions

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You are invited to participate in discussions regarding the deletion of "Million Years Ago", "Send My Love (To Your New Lover)", and "River Lea":

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Million Years Ago (song)
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Send My Love (To Your New Lover)
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/River Lea (song)

Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:53, 24 January 2016 (UTC)