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I suppose this could be retargeted to [[Partition of India#Mountbatten Plan]] since {{No redirect|3 June Plan}} and {{No redirect|Mountbatten Plan}} redirect there, but the use of quotation marks and the use of the word "or" when this is not an official title in full make this an implausible, [[WP:COSTLY]] redirect. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #2F4F4F;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 17:39, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
I suppose this could be retargeted to [[Partition of India#Mountbatten Plan]] since {{No redirect|3 June Plan}} and {{No redirect|Mountbatten Plan}} redirect there, but the use of quotation marks and the use of the word "or" when this is not an official title in full make this an implausible, [[WP:COSTLY]] redirect. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #2F4F4F;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 17:39, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' – Too costly redirect to maintain per nom. I bet J947 to agree with this deletion. --[[User:Soumya-8974|Soumya-8974]] <sup>[[User talk:Soumya-8974|talk]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Soumya-8974|contribs]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:PrefixIndex/User:Soumya-8974|subpages]]</sup> 12:21, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

====39 Boo====
====39 Boo====
*<span id="39 Boo">{{no redirect|1 = 39 Boo }}</span> → [[:39 Boötis]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:39 Boo|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/39 Boo|links]] <b>·</b> [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=39_Boo&action=history history] <b>·</b> [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-15&end=2020-09-13&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=39_Boo stats])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:39 Boo|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#39 Boo]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:39 Boo|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#39 Boo]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:39 Boo|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#39 Boo]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;
*<span id="39 Boo">{{no redirect|1 = 39 Boo }}</span> → [[:39 Boötis]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:39 Boo|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/39 Boo|links]] <b>·</b> [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=39_Boo&action=history history] <b>·</b> [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-15&end=2020-09-13&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=39_Boo stats])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:39 Boo|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#39 Boo]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:39 Boo|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#39 Boo]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:39 Boo|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#39 Boo]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

Revision as of 12:21, 15 September 2020

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 14, 2020.

Template:Campaignbox assassinations Northern Ireland Troules

Misspelling in template namespace. No substantive links. No transclusions. Bsherr (talk) 23:52, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jerkass

Term is not covered by the disambiguation. Consider retargeting to The Simpsons (season 10) or Homer Simpson, for "Jerkass Homer". –LaundryPizza03 (d) 22:07, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Craig Harris (IGN)

The unsourced mention in the target, which identifies Harris as a character in a non-notable webcomic, doesn't strike me as enough for this redirect to be useful. The same Craig Harris is mentioned in some other articles, but most mentions are citations of reviews he's written, and none looks like a viable target. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 21:20, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Child's Play (2012 film)

This redirect is not mentioned in that article. There's also no 2012 film named "Child's Play". Seventyfiveyears (talk) 20:39, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as far as I can make out, the "possible remake" mooted in 2012 eventually became Child's Play (2019 film), but that's just connecting dots and there is no significant association of the 2019 film with 2012. The only event in the franchise with 2012 I've found is that Curse of Chucky began production and was filmed in 2012, but it was released the following year as always planned and it never seems to have been called "Child's Play" anyway. In unrelated things also sharing the name, there is a single episode of Ninjago (TV series) that gets only the following mention in the article: "The first six episodes have been more criticized due to their filler-like nature and overall aimless storytelling, yet the episode "Child's Play" remains a high point of critical praise." (and the article makes it unclear whether the episode in question was first aired in 2012 or 2013). Thryduulf (talk) 01:24, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above. -2pou (talk) 05:28, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"A" - You're Adorable

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was withdrawn. I was able to validate Sonic678's claim on third party search engines, so I'm withdrawing this. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 20:15, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The use of quotations instead of apostrophes and the use of a dash makes this redirect seem implausible. Steel1943 (talk) 19:52, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Slightly weak keep, the quotation marks are a plausible alternative way to write this, as it can vary between varieties and writers of English. The dash can also be seen as a plausible way to write the title. Regards, SONIC678 20:02, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

"A. R. Long"

I'm neutral on whether or not A. R. Long, the version of this redirect without quotations, should exist, but either way, the quotations used in this redirect make this redirect unlikely and WP:COSTLY. Steel1943 (talk) 19:41, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Automotive SPICE

It seems that Automotive SPICE is somehow different from ISO/IEC 15504. In section "Acceptance of ISO/IEC 15504", there is "ISO/IEC 15504 is not available as free download, but must be purchased from the ISO. (Automotive SPICE, on the other hand, can be freely downloaded from the link supplied below.)" It seems that they are different Wolfch (talk) 07:20, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 18:33, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Pollack

Unlikely error, and the error in entering the name is the only reason why the redirect would be used.

The redirect had a total of 326 hits in calendar 2019, while the article Michael J. Pollard had a mean of 1416 daily hits. Anyway, we don't know how many of the 326 hits really wanted Pollard, or someone else.

There is a draft, Draft:Michael Pollack, that is currently in review. There was previously an article about a different non-notable person, deleted via Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Pollack.

Useless redirect. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:36, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - I am recommending acceptance of Draft:Michael Pollack, and am requesting deletion of the draft both in order to make room for the draft and because the redirect is unnecessary. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:43, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Note also that I'm unclosing the NAC of this discussion, because shortly after the draft about the other Michael Pollack got moved into articlespace it was reverted back to draftspace as a creation of a sockpuppet — which also had the side effect of restoring the redirect back to Michael Pollard again. That said, I don't think the redirect is all that warranted — strictly speaking it isn't an error, as Pollard's infobox indicates that "Michael Pollack" was his real birth name, but the likelihood of anybody actually searching for Pollard by that name is so low as to be nonexistent, and thus doesn't warrant a "redirect from birth name". At this point the only plausible purpose the redirect serves is blocking the sock from bypassing AFC, and that can just as easily be accomplished with a pinch of WP:SALT if necessary. Bearcat (talk) 17:22, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This is a legitimate redirect, it is standard practice to redirect from birth names, pen names, nom-de-guerre, married names, single names, pseudonyms etc.. When I created the redirect I noted that, were an article to be created again, a hat-note would suffice. If the draft is published, then the redirect goes (no RfD needed I think), otherwise it should stay. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 14:39, 9 September 2020 (UTC).[reply]
"Redirect from real name" is only valuable if and when there's a substantive reason to believe that some non-trivial number of people might actually search for an article at that title. The even more obscure birth name of an already not-famous character actor isn't such a situation. Bearcat (talk) 16:16, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 18:32, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I agree with Rich Farmbrough and Joseph2302. A redirect from a birth name is much better than nothing. --Bsherr (talk) 00:02, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Rich Farmborugh and Joseph2302. We don't create or keep redirects only if some arbitrarily set significant number of people would use it, we create/keep if it is plausibly useful and this utility outweighs any harm it causes. In this case there is evident utility and no harm while there is no conflicting article, so there is no justification for deletion prior to an article about someone else needing this title. Thryduulf (talk) 01:28, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"713" Requests Permission to Land

Looking thought reference for thus subject, it doesn't seem as though the quotes around the number in the titles are used in either Russian or respective English translations. Without such connection, it makes this title as a search term unlikely and WP:COSTLY due to the bizarre usage of quotes in the title. Steel1943 (talk) 17:56, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"NUMBER and NUMBER" encoding

It's unclear why these redirects need to exists when their non-quotation equivalents 4 and 4 encoding, 5 and 3 encoding, and 6 and 2 encoding exist. It doesn't seem as though the quotations are used for the name of the subjects, and if they aren't, the use of quotations are somewhat WP:COSTLY as search terms considering the subjects represented by their redirects are not subjects that would traditionally use quotations or double apostrophes on Wikipedia or elsewhere. Steel1943 (talk) 17:48, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep They exist because this spelling is used in some of the literature. It is quite normal for such kind of terms that different typographical notations (like with space, with hyphens, quoted, with slashes, in parentheses, etc.) are used by different authors and over larger timespans. One purpose of redirects is to provide an input interface for any of them. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 18:20, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Matthiaspaul: "One purpose of redirects is to provide an input interface for any of them." That's preaching to the choir. But can you provide any references that shows these terms used in quotes? Steel1943 (talk) 19:27, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not preaching to the choir, but just tried to be efficient in the use of my time to safe a perfectly valid redirect carelessly nominated for deletion. You are obviously not WP:AGF in your fellow editors. May I ask you to do your homework and be much more careful WP:BEFORE you make nominations for deletion? This is no fun at all, it is wasting other editors' precious time and energy. And there's always a risk involved of good contents to be accidently deleted if the original author is not (or no longer) around to provide background on something and no other competent editor happens to stop by in the few days of discussion. There are other venues (like article talk pages (in the case of redirects probably that of the target page)) to discuss possible issues, if you are not already sure something must be deleted because it is junk or a mistake.
While a lack of Google hits does not tell anything about the existence of something, here are two links from the first page of Google hits using these terms and notations (one historical and one modern):
I could provide probably a dozen others, but I don't want to waste yet more time on this.
--Matthiaspaul (talk) 21:50, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • You took my "preaching to the choir" statement out of context, and accused me of doing something I didn't. I was saying that I know what purpose redirects serve, which is why I nominated these things in the first place. Your claim that "You are obviously not WP:AGF in your fellow editors." is a claim with no foundation. I did my WP:BEFORE and found no results, which is why I started this discussion. These are redirects, not articles. It should be clear why a redirect targets an page without having to know a figurative backdoor or secret handshake for references that only subject material experts know in order to to figure out why a redirect targets a page; at the same time, the redirect needs to be spelled and punctuated in a plausible manner. Anyways, your whole comment was an WP:AGF failure so I have nothing more to say. Have a nice day. Steel1943 (talk) 22:25, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Creation of India

Between its current target, History of India and History of the Republic of India, it seems unclear where this redirect should target. Probably best to delete if a proper target cannot be determined. Steel1943 (talk) 17:42, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"3 June Plan" or "Mountbatten Plan"

I suppose this could be retargeted to Partition of India#Mountbatten Plan since 3 June Plan and Mountbatten Plan redirect there, but the use of quotation marks and the use of the word "or" when this is not an official title in full make this an implausible, WP:COSTLY redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 17:39, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

39 Boo

Doesn't seem like a plausible search term for its target considering it doesn't seem to be in sources, and it also doesn't seem that any other similar subjects have redirects such as these. Steel1943 (talk) 17:29, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"10th New York National Guard"

Though the redirect is mentioned in the article, I'm not finding any connection between this redirect and its target via search engines, so suspecting this redirect is either WP:MADEUP or unverifiable WP:OR. Also, it's unclear why this redirect is in quotations and why its non-quotation version title, 10th New York National Guard, doesn't exist. Steel1943 (talk) 17:22, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy delete: per WP:G7-- I meant to create 10th New York National Guard, the quotations must have been added accidentally. However, with all due respect, it seems like you didn't look for a connection very hard-- see this, this, and this and this. Now granted, the latter two may be the same source, but Dyer's compendium is considered one of the more authoritative sources for materials in the area. Best, Eddie891 Talk Work 19:51, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Eddie891: With all due respect, without a reference at the name of the alternative title inline within the article, any effort to find such information can be rather difficult. With that being said, I'll see if I can get at least one of those external links you posted in the article, and get this nominated redirect tagged with {{Db-g7}}. Steel1943 (talk) 19:55, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Yeah, that was a bit harsh on my part-- It was easy for me to find sourcing but perhaps only because I have a good deal of experience in the area and knew what to look for. Anyways, thanks for tagging it and all the work you do. Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 19:59, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kilo Highway

Not mentioned at the target or the connected svWiki and fiWiki articles. The Finnish article mentions "Kilonväylä" as an alternative name, but it's not clear whether that's equivalent to this term. Searching online I couldn't find anything suggesting that this was an alternative name. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 16:46, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thriller-drama film

WP:XY issue. Between Thriller film and Drama (film and television) (and its incoming redirect Drama film), there is no single target which this redirect could target. Steel1943 (talk) 04:04, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thriller drama

WP:XY issue. Between Thriller (genre), Thriller film, Drama, and Drama (film and television) (and its incoming redirect Drama (genre)), there is no single target which this redirect could target. Steel1943 (talk) 04:02, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Seymour Schwartz

I think that the redirect should be replaced with a disambiguation page. It currently redirects to an alter ego to the entertainer Rucka Rucka Ali rather than Dr. Seymour I. Schwartz who has that exact name. There is not even a mention of the doctor at the entertainer's page, which should be done as a minimum no matter the outcome of this discussion (IMHO). Royalbroil 12:57, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 00:31, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Clergy sex abuse scandal

Not synonymous, as "clergy" without any specification is ambiguous. Hog Farm Bacon 22:40, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget - At this point I'm not sure where to retarget. Such a redirect is grossly inaccurate and misleading. There are more than a few documented cases of non-Catholic clergy who have sexually abused. The redirect makes the assumption that all clergy sex abuse cases are in the Catholic church, which is not only inaccurate, it's prejudicial. Sundayclose (talk) 23:04, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Sexual abuse#Positions of power. Sundayclose (talk) 17:30, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Tavix: No evident ambiguity??? Are you denying that non-Catholic clergy have sexually abused? Sundayclose (talk) 15:45, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Of course not. All I'm saying is that no articles on such abuse have been presented to prove that the term is ambiguous enough to deny the current target from its current position as the primary topic. -- Tavix (talk) 15:50, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That argument evades the issue that not all clergy sex abuse is Catholic clergy sex abuse. I quickly found one article (Jehovah's Witnesses' handling of child sex abuse) and there could be others now and/or in the future. There are publicized cases involving other denominations. The fact that no one has written an article on them is not a valid basis for a misleading redirect. The reality is, no specific religion or denomination should be a target of the redirect because it is misleading. Another possibility is to redirect to Religious abuse, which is a more general concept but at least not misleading; that article contains links to related sex abuse articles. If an appropriate target can't be found, the redirect page should be deleted. So if "retarget" is not an option my !vote is delete. Keeping a misleading redirect because there's no other target is not necessary and is unencyclopedic. Sundayclose (talk) 17:52, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 00:25, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Tavix, but add a hatnote. On the first five pages of google 100% of the results for Clergy "sex abuse scandal"|"sexual abuse scandal" -Wikipedia are about the Catholic church. This is not denying that clergy from other religions have engaged in sexual abuse, simply reflecting the reality that nearly every who uses this search term is looking for information about the scandal of sexual abuse by Catholic clergy. It doesn't matter why that is, just that it is, but "clergy" is not a term widely used to describe a specific group of people in the Jehovah's Witness faith (and it may even be incorrect to do so, I'm not sure) so anyone looking for information about sexual abuse in the context of that religion would be very unlikely to search using that word. Another factor to consider is that sexual abuse by Catholic clergy has been a much bigger scandal than has abuse by practictioners of other faiths. Thryduulf (talk) 11:25, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Belgians in the Congo

Not really a likely target BilCat (talk) 22:17, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Junior Art Director

This specific phrase is not mentioned in the target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the target unclear. Steel1943 (talk) 17:30, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 00:18, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Minneapolis Riots

This set of redirects are currently targeted at an article discussing 2020 events. It might be better if they went to the more general list List of civil unrest in Minneapolis–Saint Paul (notwithstanding the current hatnote at the target article). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:23, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 00:17, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rakshak (2016 film)

Was never confirmed as a potential title by the film's crew. This source merely speculates. Kailash29792 (talk) 06:22, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak keep: "Speculates" = "could have been possible". And since a source states the target subject could have had this name, I see the helpfulness in retaining this redirect, as long as the redirect isn't ambiguous. Steel1943 (talk) 17:32, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 00:13, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]