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Romy and Michele's High School Reunion (1997)
Under the "Art" section of the article, there was no mention of the use of Post-its in ROMY AND MICHELE'S HIGH SCHOOL REUNION (1997), where one of the main characters has a dream in which she claims to have invented Post-its. Actually, both of the main characters claim to have invented Post-its in different parts of the movie73.96.116.248 (talk) 10:42, 13 February 2019 (UTC) to prove that they've done something important with their lives.
Just a thought. :) IMDB page for ROMY AND MICHELE: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120032/?ref_=nv_sr_1
Wikipedia page for ROMY AND MICHELE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romy_and_michele%27s_high_school_reunion
- Clearly Post-its are important to the plot of the film. But does that mean that the film is important to Post-its?
- I don't think so. Post-its are used as a signifier of a useful, profitable but obscure invention. Much as Mike Nesmith of The Monkees, whose mother invented Liquid Paper. But that invention could be anything. If the film was re-written to refer to silly putty or Loom Bandz instead, it wouldn't change the film. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:25, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- That section, anyway, is about uses of Post-Its as an art medium, not about pop culture references to them. Largoplazo (talk) 12:04, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
Geoff Nicholson
The name of Geoff Nicholson, a man who's regularly called the "Father of Post-it Notes", is missing in the article, e. g. [1]. --SamWinchester000 (talk) 23:54, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Post-It Sticky title
The title of the article seems to be a branded title which does not seem to overwhelm the generic term "sticky note" in use, I therefore suggest that the title be changed in favor of the generic term73.243.250.179 (talk) 22:34, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- My identical proposal four years ago failed. So good luck with that. Largoplazo (talk) 22:40, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- Post-it note is used more than sticky note in my experience. What is your evidence to the contrary? ---Khajidha (talk) 04:35, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
Sticky Note = The 3M Brand?
'Sticky Note' deserves its own article, instead of an automatic redirection. I have tried, but failed(https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sticky_note&action=history). You may read the discussion(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sticky_note). Gillette is the dominating brand of disposable razors, but should the article for 'disposable razor' be an automatic redirection to Gillete's article? That should not be the case even if the producer is a monoploy. Please use logic. I simply want things to make sense logically. Since this is too difficult due to some strange reasons, I must give up.110.174.132.162 (talk) 15:21, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- That's not really relatable, since Gillete is a company, that would make sense if post-it note and sticky note redirected to 3M. But use common sense, post-it note and sticky note mean the same thing, sure, one is a more branded name (and I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to a move to sticky note), but they are duplicate articles. It would be as if you would create an article at air bubble packaging, which is clearly the same thing as bubble wrap, because other non-trademarked products existed, it's still a duplicate article and relevant information should go in bubble wrap. Dylsss (talk) 23:53, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- Gillette is both a company name and a brand name. You had failed to understand the logic from the beginning. Look at the symbols at the end of the followings and check the respective company websites - 'Gillette®' and 'Post-it®' are on the same level in terms of legal status. The other points that should follow have already been mentioned. There is no need to repeat here. Do not worry, I have read some more talk history. The matter is not particularly with you. Thank you for the guidance. I have learned something. It is possible that the problem is on the term 'common sense'. The 'common sense' of dictionary editors, like those in Cambridge University Press(https://dictionary.cambridge.org/amp/english/sticky-note)(https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/post-it-note?q=post-it), is different from that of the editors of this English version of Wikipedia. The voters who opposed to establishing a de-branded article five years ago gave the reason that they seldom heard of the other names, despite the statistical data the proposer quoted, showing that it was just them, but not users of the English language in general. That is understandable. However, the tendency to disallow a few lines of 'duplication' to exist is pretty strange. Perhaps there are millions of 'duplicated' disambiguation pages to delete. It could be about ethnocentricity, brilliant marketing strategies or something worse. Anyway, I shall not try to dig into this. It must be terribly deep. By the way, you should try to merge the articles 'Bubble Wrap' and 'Bubble Wrap (brand)', or delete either, according to your reasoning about duplication.110.174.132.162 (talk) 09:19, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
Requested move 30 October 2022
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Not moved. – wbm1058 (talk) 13:09, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
Post-it Note → Post-it note – I don't think "note" should be capitalised here. QueenofBithynia (talk) 16:48, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Nominator blocked for sockpuppetry. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 01:48, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Support: No reason to capitalise 'Note'.Move to Sticky note to not use trademark. YorkshireExpat (talk) 17:17, 30 October 2022 (UTC)- Move to Post-it. If this article is indeed about the brand, and not the general concept of sticky notes, then it should use the brand name. 162 etc. (talk) 17:26, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Article comes off as still about the notes themselves to me. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:31, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I assume the capital Note is the official capitalisation, i.e. "Post-it Note" as a whole is a formal product name. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:28, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Right, but we typically wouldn't name an article after the product. We don't use titles like Frosted Flakes cereal or Sunlight detergent. 162 etc. (talk) 17:42, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- @162 etc. @Mellohi! see my suggestion above. It is already a redirect. YorkshireExpat (talk) 20:29, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Right, but we typically wouldn't name an article after the product. We don't use titles like Frosted Flakes cereal or Sunlight detergent. 162 etc. (talk) 17:42, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Comment. Just for informational purposes: There was a previous discussion about moving this article to the title "Sticky note" in 2015, which garnered only opposes. And here is where it was unilaterally moved from "Post-it note" to "Post-it Note" in 2018. Deor (talk) 22:03, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, some good points, some not so good. I think 'sticky note' may be becoming more common, but this may be driven by electronic version of the phenomenon, and it may be true that the 'Post-it' is notable in its own right. YorkshireExpat (talk) 22:17, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose -- it is a proper noun and part of the brand. --RockstoneSend me a message! 07:46, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Neutral.
Move to Sticky note per WP:COMMONNAME based on the Google Ngrams.Rreagan007 (talk) 00:41, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- As was noted in the previous move discussion, many of the Ngrams results are due to this. Deor (talk) 02:38, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- I see. I've changed my vote to neutral, for now, based on this information. Rreagan007 (talk) 07:09, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- As was noted in the previous move discussion, many of the Ngrams results are due to this. Deor (talk) 02:38, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose. I agree with rockstone35's opinion, these are sold as "Post-it Note" by my googling, so we should not be implying it is more genericness than it is. --Quiz shows 15:42, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
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