Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Artie Wayne

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The result was Keep. Michig (talk) 08:44, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Artie Wayne

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Frankly I wasn't certain whether to PROD or AfD this as despite the article being fairly detailed, the best my searches found were only this, this and this. SwisterTwister talk 06:30, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment This article needs serious work. I'm not sure, since I'm doing a fast search, but I think he has also recorded under the names "Shadow Mann" and "Neil Sheppard."[1]. There may be another Artie Wayne out there, too, so careful searching. Here are some sources to look at: Billboard Article, Billboard Article, Bibliography listing (song credit), Billboard song credit, Billboard song credit, [2], mentioned here, Shadow Mann Megalibrarygirl (talk) 01:30, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I think he qualifies under WP:COMPOSER criteria 1 "1.Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition", as he co-wrote "Little Christmas Tree" and "Touch the One You Love" for Michael Jackson here.He also received a gold record for co-writing "Midnight Mary" for Joey Powers and covered by groups such as the Rockin Berries, seehere. He also co-wrote "Flashback" for Cher that was also covered by Paul Anka,Tom Jones,Cilla Black. He also wrote songs for Helen Shapiro (Queen of the Night) ,Ricky Nelson,The Shirelles and The Magic Lantern.

I'm not sure if he qualifies under criteria5: "Has been listed as a major influence or teacher of a composer, songwriter or lyricist that meets the above criteria." as he tutored Diane Warren at a songwriting course. Found extra source -" My Extraordinary Ordinary Life" by Sissy Spacek ISBN:1401304273.Atlantic306 (talk) 17:58, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:53, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and improve. This is a really badly written and poorly to unreferenced biography - much of it is essentially a close paraphrase of this. But, he is still notable, as a songwriter and publisher - [3], unlinkable article at Examiner.com, etc. I wouldn't lose any sleep if it was removed as a copyvio, but if so it should be rebuilt from scratch - I believe he meets notability criteria (just about). Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:51, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Its not a copyvio as the wiki article was created in 2007 and the website 2012 so it was probably copied from wiki.I agree with you 100% the article needs a lot of work - there are important events left out and lesser ones left in.Atlantic306 (talk) 19:27, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  - OK, but the article really needs to be totally rewritten from independent reliable sources. Much of the article remains unreferenced - and unreferenced material about living people should be removed. Parts are also inaccurate (such as claims he wrote two UK top ten singles - he didn't). Ghmyrtle (talk) 23:21, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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