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Notes From a Defeatist

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A collection of comic book journalist Joe Sacco's best shorter pieces. Before Joe Sacco crafted his two major works of "cartoon journalism," Palestine and Safe Area Gorazde , he created a number of shorter pieces, ranging from one-page gags to 30-page "graphic novelettes." This massive book finally collects the entirety of Sacco's earlier journalistic and autobiographical work, plus a sizable serving of his satirical strips, many of them never before collected in book form.

The centerpieces in Notes from a Defeatist are a triptych of war stories: "When Good Bombs Happen to Bad People," a history of aerial bombing that specifically targets civilian populations; "More Women, More Children, More Quickly," in which Sacco relates his mother's harrowing experiences during World War II in Malta; and, most personally (and closest to Sacco's later work), "How I Loved the War," Sacco's impassioned but sardonic reflection on the Gulf War, the surrounding propaganda and media circus, and his own ambivalent feelings as both a spectator and commentator: The book derives its title from this sequence, which has acquired a painful new relevance in the past half-year. Notes from a Defeatist also includes a roadie's-eye view of an American punk band's eventful European tour, a reminiscence of an awful season spent in his native Malta, and much more. Notes from a Defeatist is a fantastic primer to Sacco's work.

Sacco's previous two books, Safe Area Gorazde and Palestine , have earned international acclaim and accolades from such sources as Edward W. Said, Christopher Hitchens, Time, The New York Times Book Review , and The Washington Post . Black-and-white comics throughout

216 pages, Paperback

First published February 1, 2003

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Joe Sacco

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Joe Sacco was born in Malta on October 2, 1960. At the age of one, he moved with his family to Australia, where he spent his childhood until 1972, when they moved to Los Angeles. He began his journalism career working on the Sunset High School newspaper in Beaverton, Oregon. While journalism was his primary focus, this was also the period of time in which he developed his penchant for humor and satire. He graduated from Sunset High in 1978.

Sacco earned his B.A. in journalism from the University of Oregon in 1981 in three years. He was greatly frustrated with the journalist work that he found at the time, later saying, "[I couldn't find] a job writing very hard-hitting, interesting pieces that would really make some sort of difference." After being briefly employed by the journal of the National Notary Association, a job which he found "exceedingly, exceedingly boring," and several factories, he returned to Malta, his journalist hopes forgotten. "...I sort of decided to forget it and just go the other route, which was basically take my hobby, which has been cartooning, and see if I could make a living out of that," he later told the BBC.

He began working for a local publisher writing guidebooks. Returning to his fondness for comics, he wrote a Maltese romance comic named Imħabba Vera ("True Love"), one of the first art-comics in the Maltese language. "Because Malta has no history of comics, comics weren't considered something for kids," he told Village Voice. "In one case, for example, the girl got pregnant and she went to Holland for an abortion. Malta is a Catholic country where not even divorce is allowed. It was unusual, but it's not like anyone raised a stink about it, because they had no way of judging whether this was appropriate material for comics or not."

Eventually returning to the United States, by 1985 Sacco had founded a satirical, alternative comics magazine called Portland Permanent Press in Portland, Oregon. When the magazine folded fifteen months later, he took a job at The Comics Journal as the staff news writer. This job provided the opportunity for him to create another satire: the comic Centrifugal Bumble-Puppy, a name he took from an overly-complicated children's toy in Aldous Huxley's Brave New World.

But Sacco was more interested in travelling. In 1988, he left the U.S. again to travel across Europe, a trip which he chronicled in his autobiographical comic Yahoo. The trip lead him towards the ongoing Gulf War (his obsession with which he talks about in Yahoo #2), and in 1991 he found himself nearby to research the work he would eventually publish as Palestine.

The Gulf War segment of Yahoo drew Sacco into a study of Middle Eastern politics, and he traveled to Israel and the Palestinian territories to research his first long work. Palestine was a collection of short and long pieces, some depicting Sacco's travels and encounters with Palestinians (and several Israelis), and some dramatizing the stories he was told. It was serialized as a comic book from 1993 to 2001 and then published in several collections, the first of which won an American Book Award in 1996.

Sacco next travelled to Sarajevo and Goražde near the end of the Bosnian War, and produced a series of reports in the same style as Palestine: the comics Safe Area Goražde, The Fixer, and the stories collected in War's End; the financing for which was aided by his winning of the Guggenheim Fellowship in April 2001. Safe Area Goražde won the Eisner Award for Best Original Graphic Novel in 2001.

He has also contributed short pieces of graphic reportage to a variety of magazines, on subjects ranging from war crimes to blues, and is a frequent illustrator of Harvey Pekar's American Splendor. Sacco currently lives in Portland.

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Profile Image for Dave Schaafsma.
Author 6 books31.9k followers
January 21, 2016
Early Sacco, pre-Palestine, pre-Safe Area Gorazde, finding his style, tacking back and forth between wild eighties party/music scenes with typically self-deprecating and cynical and sometimes very funny reflections to his first deeply political stuff. The whole idea of his depicting himself as this annoying nebbish, a "defeatist," reminds me of Harvey Pekar, maybe particularly his memoir, The Quitter, but really most of American Splendor. You get hipster points when you identify yourself as a loser, ironically.

My favorite piece in this book just may be one of his early political pieces, When Good Bombs Happen to Bad People, focusing as it does on the long time US and British habit of bombing civilians to win wars. Appropriately angry, reflecting deep research. The art isn't as complex in this as he would make his art later in political situations, but it is still powerful to see a comic out in the late eighties and early nineties on this topic. He also writes of his experiences with the Iraq War and retells a story told by his mother about the bombing of Malta when she was a girl.

I hadn't expected much here, as the GR rating average is something like 3.31, and it iS early stuff from Sacco, but it IS Sacco and if some of it is uneven, much of it is still amazing art, a combination of alt or underground comix and incredibly detailed art comics. Maybe I'd say this is a 3 along with the hoardes of other reviewers, on the whole it's just okay compared to his later stuff, but hey, it's Sacco, and it is still better than most stuff out there, even now. He gets points just for the already at this point great art, and for the rare (for comics) and trenchant political commentary.

Sure, if you want to know where to start with Sacco and political comics, read Palestine, and Safe Area, but anything by him is interesting. His book on the Battle of the Somme is breathtaking, too.
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74 reviews8 followers
February 4, 2017
As usual Joe sacco killed it with the premise & drew crazy outline of middle east...
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287 reviews7 followers
May 5, 2023
This collection of work, drawn from the author's earlier cartoons, is quirky and witty. It accurately skewers hypocrisy and human stupidity, with a focus on topics like the bombardment of civilians in wartime; the Gulf War; Colonialism; Sex, Drugs, and Rock 'n' Roll in the punk era; and even the exploitation of the lower class laborers by industrialists during the "industrial revolution."

The humorous and satirical work doubles as a social commentary and it is truly enjoyable. Visually, the images burst off the page. The tales are not always told in a linear fashion, which (for me) made the reading experience like an immersive surrealistic ride in a Disney World that exists only in an alternate reality, or in the hallucinatory mind of Ron DeSantis. 4 Stars.
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97 reviews1 follower
August 6, 2019
Joe Sacco é um monstro da narrativa e ilustração, mas este volume traz uma série que achei meio irregular de histórias mais antigas dele, antes de Gorazde, Uma História de Sarajevo e Palestina. Tem um formato de histórias mais curtas, com aquela cara marcante de quadrinho "marginal". Algumas histórias não de guerra são legais, mas o destaque é mesmo quando ele entra neste assunto. A série sobre ataques aéreos tem uma diagramação e uma força impressionantes. Já uma história sobre ele acompanhando uma banda de rock pela Europa quando era jovem foi quase insuportável pra mim.
Profile Image for Wilde Sky.
Author 16 books36 followers
March 17, 2018
A collection of short graphic stories / strips.

I found this a bit of an odd collection – some reminded me of ‘Viz’ whilst other were a bit more though provoking.
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42 reviews27 followers
May 15, 2016
I'm not a die-hard Sacco-fanatic. I theoretically had to read Palestine for class once, but I didn't plan enough time, underestimated how dense it was and so I left it hanging only a dozen pages in. I was impressed by the project though, by the whole idea of honestly subjective journalism in comic book format, and since I have a foible for the explorative crispness of early work and generally prefer personal stories to political stuff, I thought instead of being the millionth person to read Palestine I'd give this a try. Well.

I did like the first biographical story on a young Sacco struggling to make it as a comic book artist, but after that... well... it turns out that Sacco's dark yet irreverent cynicism that works so well with the vagaries of war and destruction does not quite match lighter subject matters. Social criticism pervades his work, but rather than poignant and powerful as it does in his war-zone reporting, it seems a bit pompous and crude when it shapes short caricatures of the working public, political activism or the sliding overthrow of high culture in a public library. Maybe Sacco just had to find his style or his subject matter, but surprisingly - I mentioned that I bought this book because I was not so keen on war and politics, right? - one of the later pieces included in the book, a commentary on the effects of bombing on Malta during WWII (and bombing campaigns in general) based on the recollections of a contemporary witness was my favourite so far.

It's interesting to see where Sacco is coming from and how it came together, but ultimately my take-away message is that an artist can try a lot of things that work just fine, before hitting that perfect sweet-spot in the harmony of content and style and finally stumbling on something that is really good.
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234 reviews14 followers
June 7, 2019
Quando encontra boas histórias pra contar, como as memórias da sua mãe na II Guerra Mundial, Sacco se aproxima do ótimo "Palestina". O problema é que a maior parte do tempo ele fica naquela punheta vidaloka-sexo-drogas-rock'n'roll que sempre fica parecendo um sub-Crumb.
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151 reviews2 followers
September 4, 2017
A definitive mixed bag of works. There's really no solid theme here, either. War is a recurring theme, but it's not the only one. A lot of the works are comical or autobiographical, but then some aren't.

Let's just summarize things, starting with the good. In the Company of Long Hair is a fascinating journey on a trip with an American band through Europe. Eight Characters has some funny moments when it ranks up the absurdity. But they're not really why you're going to remember this book. The real shining moments here start with When Good Bombs Happen to Bad People, a collection of quotes about various bombings, showing the constant flow of bombings from "we're doing this for military reasons" to "we're bombing civilians". It's striking and heartbreaking. And then there's More Women, More Children, More Quickly, about Sacco's mother's childhood in Malta during World War II. It's striking, heartbreaking, and powerful. If it was these two stories alone, this would be 5 stars.

Unfortunately it's not, and the other stories throughout show a side of Sacco that I can't say I like. How I Loved the War is a satirical autobiography about the Gulf War, but it never manages to make the leap over to "actually funny" for me. It instead basically shows Sacco being self-centered. Maybe we're meant to understand that his author avatar is being constantly sarcastic or not reflective of himself, or maybe it's meant to just show how he is and we're meant to take him, warts and all. I don't know, I just didn't care for it, and being placed after More Women is a sharp mood swing. Strangely, the epilogue story On My Day Off is much better to me. A Disgusting Experience is weird and just sort of there. The real nadir is Voyage to the End of the Library, which essentially comes down to a rant about how "everybody is terrible". The misanthropy on display here might be what made it hard to relate to Sacco any other time his author avatar was around.

His art remains strong throughout. His distinct faces, the panel layout (especially in Long Hair). He knows when to detail things, like the splash pages for Good Bombs, and when to minimalize things. Even when I hated the writing, I loved the art.

I wish I could chop this book up and put my favorite parts together, but I can't. For every moment I was struck with a deep sadness, there were moments when I was rolling my eyes in disgust. I can't recommend it.
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462 reviews194 followers
August 29, 2014
Oh well, this started out promisingly, with what one of my friends (who happens to be a graphic novel aficionado) calls the 'underground' style of comic art. (I have no clue what that really means, but I assume it's meant to be some kind of a compliment.)

I liked the initial bits - these comics were done by Sacco before he made it big with Palestine. Some of the stories (or shorts actually) are dark and gritty, whereas I found the others fairly absurd and preposterous.

Also, the major issue with this book is that Joe Sacco is great with visuals accompanied by short text/captions. But, when he does the opposite i.e. supplementing text commentary with visuals to tell a story, that's when you realize that writing isn't really his forte.

Also, I must concede that the latter half of the book deals with politics, which is a much tougher topic to explain in visuals than in text.

But overall, the quality of this book oscillates wildly and while some parts are 5-starred, others are barely worthy of 1. So, even though I rate it as a 3 overall, I'd still recommend reading it because Joe Sacco's brilliance does shine through, albeit intermittently.
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37 reviews
December 6, 2010
He's from Portland and U of O. Early stuff is not as good as later, but you can see the progression towards greatness.
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10 reviews4 followers
October 6, 2012
Os contos mais pessoais acerca do cotidiano de Sacco chegam a ser desinteressantes. O que vale a pena são os últimos com representações de guerra.
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621 reviews1 follower
February 5, 2019
Before Sacco got started with journalism presented as graphic novel, he wrote some short fiction comic pieces. Simultaneously juvenile and heavy-handed.
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September 3, 2021
Joe Sacco nasceu em Malta em 1960, viveu na Austrália e atualmente vive em Seattle, Estados Unidos. Identifica-se mais com a cultura americana, conhece bem os Estados Unidos e sente-se bem ali, mas reconhece que é híbrido e que tem muito do europeu também. Viaja pelo mundo colhendo dados e inspiração para seus trabalhos, o mais conhecido no Brasil é Palestina – Uma Nação Ocupada. Diz-se que Joe Sacco criou um gênero novo, o jornalismo em quadrinhos. Ele, de fato, é jornalista por formação, em 1981 obteve um diploma de bacharel em artes, voltado para o jornalismo na University of Oregon.

Derrotista é um trabalho autobiográfico, reunião de várias histórias curtas e sobre temas variados, guerras, amigos, uma viagem acompanhando uma banda de rock em ‘Na companhia do cabelo comprido’, a infância da mãe e o fascismo em ‘Mais mulheres, mais crianças, mais rápido.’, etc. É interessante também o uso que faz de algumas notas da imprensa na história ‘Quando boas bombas acontecem para pessoas más’. Uma delas retirada da Newsweek de 28 de abril de 1986:
“Junto à porta, jaz o corpo de uma menininha...ao seu lado uma criança de macacão rosa. Entre eles duas mãozinhas amputadas pouco abaixo do pulso.”

Joe Sacco
Editora: Conrad
ISBN: 8576161427
Ano: 2006
Edição: 1
Número de páginas: 217
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November 22, 2021
Đối tượng mục tiêu: công ty phải ghi nhớ nếu họ thực sự biết đối tượng của họ. Trong trường hợp này, bạn nên nghiên cứu hành vi, sở thích của anh ấy và những gì anh ấy làm trên web, loại phương tiện truyền thông xã hội mà anh ấy sử dụng. Đây chỉ là một số điểm để bắt đầu phát triển một ngôn ngữ phù hợp để trò chuyện với khán giả đó.

Ở đây, điều quan trọng là phát triển một số tính cách, đó là một nhân vật hư cấu được sử dụng để tổng hợp tất cả các đặc điểm của khán giả, tạo điều kiện cho công việc phát triển các hành động.
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Khả năng hoạt động của mạng xã hội là rất lớn, vì vậy giai đoạn này là nơi tôi xác định những gì sẽ thực sự được thực hiện để thu hút khán giả và làm nổi bật thương hiệu của bạn.
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582 reviews71 followers
February 11, 2024
This is a mixed bag both in terms of quality and themes. War and politics though is a recurring theme as it is through. I liked the two Stories "When good bombs happen to bad people" and "More Women, More Children, More quickly" - The former meticulously researched non-fiction with quotes from war reports and dispatches from the front-lines and the latter the visceral and personal memoir of his mother in the war in Malta. As is usual, Joe sacco is best when reporting with fire and satire on the viciousness and pointlessness of war. A book worth reading just because of these two stories. You can see the glimpses of brilliance from his other magnum opuses "Palestine" and "Safe Area Gorazde".
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December 21, 2021
wow, this was not for me. I love graphic novels and I love non-fiction comics, yet for a long time I didn't read Sacco. I've finally been reading his work and really enjoying it, so I went back and dug up this book. I found it difficult to read in terms of the text and crowdedness of the page, again especially compared to his later work. I'm really glad he moved away from this style and some of these topics.
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615 reviews47 followers
February 27, 2023
I like this book a lot, it mainly functions as a window into how Sacco went from a weirdo alt-cartoonist to the world-minded political cartoonist he is today. A good deal of the pages in here are also impressibly inventive, with a lot of them taking the same kind of floating panel-less approach as Six Hundred And Seventy-Six Apparitions Of Killofer. My favorite of what I've read by Sacco, I don't really think that'll change any time soon.
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98 reviews19 followers
January 29, 2018
This is very early Sacco finding his voice and is probably most enjoyable to those who respect where he ended up in his career. Knowing how amazing his work on "Palestine" and "Footnotes in Gaza" is, I can relax and enjoy a collection of less mature personal works. There is still a lot to love here.
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237 reviews34 followers
March 21, 2020
Joe Sacco'nun erken dönem çizimleri toplanmış bu kitapta. Filistin ve Gorazde gibi klasiklere giderken kendi tarzını nasıl bulduğunu görüyoruz. Ama bana hiç hitap etmedi. Yer yer atlayarak ve içim sıkılarak bitirdim. Sacco'nun gelişimini görmeme gerek yokmuş. Ben kendi tarzını bulduktan sonra yaptığı işleri okumaya devam edeceğim.
Profile Image for Sharanya.
112 reviews2 followers
February 10, 2018
Sacco's artwork is brilliant, and his perspectives / angles of his art work very well for me . But this one left me feeling dizzy with text everywhere . Some stories were great , some were meh! I would still rate it a 4 for Hai sheer talent
Profile Image for Alan Fricker.
844 reviews7 followers
June 28, 2017
Feel sure I had read this before or maybe just in other collections. Loving detailed, sharp and angry
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38 reviews28 followers
September 10, 2017
Loved the stories in the end, where Sacco seems to have been obsessed with war - reminded me of myself :)
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251 reviews7 followers
December 3, 2022
Satire from a person who is retelling stories from other sources, some autobiographical pieces from not very experienced person.
Does not resonate, but those are ok to publish in mediocre magazine.
Profile Image for Jim.
119 reviews4 followers
May 22, 2010
I got this book out of the library a few days ago. I was impressed by the drawing style. Joe Sacco's style is reminiscent of R. Crumb in terms of exaggeration, shading and cross-hatching.

This book contains short works by Sacco. Some are autobiographical, some fiction, some based on real events and stories his mother told him of WWII. I enjoyed most of the book, however in the middle he did a few stories that seemed to be drug induced stream-of-consciousness pieces. I tend to find such works boring and silly. However, the other stories are worth reading. You can skip over some of the stories in the middle.

I would recommend this book, just for the art work and the better stories.
Profile Image for Meghaditya Roy Chaudhury.
13 reviews11 followers
September 7, 2013
A nice weekend read. I had been always a follower of Joe Sacco's unique style of comic journalism. This one's a collection of Sacco's unpublished earlier works before he came to prominence with his notable works 'Palestine' and 'Safe Area Gorazde'. He claims himself to be a 'war junkie' and religiously sticks to his satirical approach towards violence. Out of the many collections of his works in this book I liked 3 of them particularly - 'Eight Characters', 'When good bombs happen to bad people' and 'How I loved the war'. They are witty, concise and informative. The portrayals of Zachary Mindbiscuit and Mark Victorystooges's characters in 'Eight Characters' will be remembered by me for a long time.
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7,257 reviews141 followers
August 11, 2015
So I had read Safe Area Gorazde and enjoyed it immensely, recognizing Sacco's name, so I picked up the graphic novel of his earlier works, many centered around war stories which he's made famous in his graphic novels. This is mixed in with other vignettes of a biographical nature.

There are some that make more sense than others, there are some that are just plain creative and genius, and others that are pointed. I obviously enjoyed the library sketch. So as a whole it was okay as I get Sacco's mind, but it isn't something that I could continually revisit or enjoy finding similar graphic novels of.
Profile Image for Ed Dinnermonkey.
150 reviews1 follower
May 29, 2013
'Palestine' is one of those 'awfully important books' I've been meaning to read for years, so I was delighted to find that, through this collection of his earlier stuff, Joe Sacco is (or was) a deliriously cynical artist struggling with accommodating the hatred of injustice with his own desire for happiness. It's funny and honest, not to mention delightfully profane and lurid. There's such a breadth of styles here, it's clear to see an artist finding his own style and voice. Stand outs are the memoirs from Malta during the war and a fantastic fable at the very end aping Brueghel.
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1,168 reviews29 followers
May 21, 2013
A fine collection of short early works from Sacco sets you up for the longer realist-journalism from the Middle East or the longer fabulist-reflections of a band on the road you can get elsewhere. The history of civilian bombing is quite effective as a mix of the two modes. There is even a short segment on libraries. The visual style owes a lot to Peter Bagge, I think.
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95 reviews18 followers
December 28, 2014
This is a general collection of Sacco’s pieces for alternative comics and magazines before he became (relatively famous). They range from a history of aerial warfare against civilians to his time as a roadie in Germany, and include pieces on such topics as his mother’s childhood in wartime Malta, what it’s like for a cartoonist to own a dog, and his conflicted opinions on the first Gulf War.
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