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== January 2020 ==

[[File:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|left|alt=Stop icon]] Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an [[Wikipedia:Edit warring|edit war]]; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the [[Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines|talk page]] to work toward making a version that represents [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See [[Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle|the bold, revert, discuss cycle]] for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant [[Wikipedia:Noticeboards|noticeboard]] or seek [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]]. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary [[Wikipedia:Protection policy|page protection]].

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Kosovo 2015 games

Thanks for this correction. I totally discarded the year 2015 and assumed the event to somehow be in the future still. --OJ (talk) 14:56, 14 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your edit OJ! No one had noticed article needed update expect of you. I try to edit as much as I can during my limited free time and because of this sometimes I make mistakes. That is why Wikipedia needs as many editors as possible, to help and assist each other. Best regards! Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:44, 14 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation

Hello!
I noticed you've made edits or that you are in some way connected to Albania or Albanians related articles.

We are a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Albania and Albanians related topics and are organized within WikiProject Albania.
I thought that you may be interested in viewing the current tasks of our WikiProject or its talk page and get involved. Furthermore, if you are interested in joining the wikiproject, please feel free to add your name in the Participants' page!.

Thank you and, again, welcome among us!

--Antidiskriminator (talk) 23:16, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Epic Barnstar
For your perseverance and resolve in making many excellent and much needed contributions. Keep the good work up ! Resnjari (talk) 04:42, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

The source is called "Collective (1965). Greek Sources about Bulgarian History (GIBI), volume VI, Sofia, Bulgarian Academy of Sciences Press". It is the 6th volume of a book series of Byzantine sources related to the history of Bulgaria compiled with translation and comments by a collective of leading historians. Promacedonia is a hosting site that contains among others scanned books, not some random nonsense written by bloggers or amateur "historians". Anyway, the easiest thing for me is not to point link to the book; it is convenient for the readers but all the same for me. I will include the source cited properly now. --Gligan (talk) 20:14, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Gligan It is OK now. The reference must have a quote in English because the book in written in Bulgarian. Promacedonia is a blog where books are posted but in the end it is still a blog and we must respect WP:Reliable. Best regards! Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:00, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I am glad that we understood each other. You are correct that a non-Bulgarian reader would not understand the source in the way I had cited it initially. Best regards, --Gligan (talk) 16:16, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Pogled

After initially reverting you, I have tried to rewrite the passage of Pogled (mountain). I'm happy for you to make changes to what I have done if you feel they reflect neutrality. Sadly, the location of this peak is tricky to say the least. I'll keep working on it. Notice I have used both Republic of Kosovo and Serbia's undisputed territory at the same time and I hope this looks fair to both sides. --OJ (talk) 18:17, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Congress of Elbasan

Hi. Thanks for creating the page. Please try to add content, since the article is far more important than what it shows as of now. I would strongly suggest you to finish the article.
--Mondiad (talk)

Mondiad I am writing stuff for article in a Word document. I am writing stuff for Congress of Manastir at once because the first is a consequence of the later and both are very linked with each other. There is plenty of material in Google Books and article will be in its final shape soon. Regards, Ktrimi991 (talk) 19:02, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dalip Frashëri

Hi. Can you help in this article?
I added some verses in today's alphabet, but there are oriental/turkish words, "teqmil", etc., not sure how to translate them since the source transliterates them in Albanian.
Regards
-Mondiad (talk) 03:55, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mondiad.  Done. Ktrimi991 (talk) 11:43, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
We are missing one line. There are 6 in Albanian.--Mondiad (talk) 21:29, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Mondiad I added it. Most of the difficult/oriental words are Persian, others Arabic. Fifty-eight is year 1258 in the Islamic calendar. It is just like saying ninety-eight instead of 1998. Ktrimi991 (talk) 22:19, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks!--Mondiad (talk) 00:27, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Your corrections in the Secularism in Albania article were surely needed. The next time I will be more careful when writing. Vargmali (talk) 16:12, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vargmali. Thanks for creating the article. Everyone needs other editors to help with some copy editing or additional stuff when does such a huge work. By the way I did not notice it was a file name. I changed it back to previous form. Cheers. Ktrimi991 (talk) 16:21, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the appreciation! The article was about a very complex topic and I did lose oversight of many details. Don't worry, all the corrections are fine, so keep up the good work. Vargmali (talk) 16:40, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Muhammad Ali Pasha

Please have a Look, to the Homepage of Prince Osman Rifat Ibrahim, a descendant in paternal line of Muhammad Ali Pasha. His Ancestors was from the Turkish City İliç, www.mohamedali.eu/mohamed_ali.html)

Anti-Orthodoxy RM

You recently participated in an AfD discussion for the Anti-Orthodoxy article here. A request to move (retitle) that article is currently under discussion here if you'd care to participate. —  AjaxSmack  05:58, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Accusation for off wiki violence

Hi,

I noticed you again violated wikipedia rules and misused article talkpage to write comment about me and my conduct with this diff. Will you please be so kind not to continue with this kind of behavior aimed against me?

In the above mentioned comment you accused me for off wiki violence without presenting any evidence. If that is really true I sincerely apologize for my behavior, but I do not recall I have ever been involved in any off wiki violence. Will you please be so kind to present evidence for your accusation?

Best regards,--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:59, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit summary

Actually the specific edit [[1]] isn't a partial rv but you are entirely accepting my version. Thank you, though you need to avoid wrong and aggressive edit summaries.Alexikoua (talk) 16:45, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Alexikoua: You deleted that part about figures in 1946. Hence, it was a partial rv. Even this message of yours here is rather trolling. Even a message of yours some weeks ago about my supposed use of Albanian in communication with other editors was trolling. I asked you to tell me where I used Albanian you did not respond. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:03, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Actually you just added a brand new source. Thus saying that the existing inline citation was claiming that 60% was illiterate was OR. However, it is really kind of you and I appreciate that you added a second source and thus correcting the OR issue & adding additional content.Alexikoua (talk) 17:36, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexikoua: I did not add any source. The "new source" was in the end of the sentence you modified. I copied and pasted it nearer to the 60% figure so you could see it and stop supposing about "source falsification". Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:41, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Then you should be also careful and not place the reference in the wrong place as you did here [[2]].Alexikoua (talk) 19:36, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexikoua: In the link you provided I did not place any reference. What is the point of all of this? Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:35, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In this dif you falsified the inline reference: just after the supposed percentage. You need to be careful and reading the correspondent reference.Alexikoua (talk) 21:38, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexikoua: Nah, I rv a banned sock and their vague edit. I did not "falsify" the "inline reference", just rv back to the stable version. You originally said in this discussion that I gave you right, then that I added a new reference, then that I placed the reference in the wrong place, then that I falsified the reference. Make your mind. What is the point of this discusion? lol Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:56, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't "lol" if someone accused me of multiple wp:NPA violations.Alexikoua (talk) 08:22, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah it would be. Stop trolling.Resnjari (talk) 09:38, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexikoua: Which of your comments is accusation? You said that I agreed with you (?!), then you thanked me, then that I added a new reference, then that I placed the reference in the wrong place, then that I falsified the reference. Stop trolling. @Resnjari: Ignore him per WP:Deny. Ktrimi991 (talk) 13:12, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you !

The Barnstar of Diligence
For invaluable contributions to Wikipedia in making it a better place. Keep up the good work.Resnjari (talk) 20:08, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
For your tireless hunt against sock farm infestations. Sock puppets and vandals tremble in fear of your might, but they can neither run nor hide. You'd better cut it out though -- keep it up and the admins will try to conscript you as a CheckUser! Calthinus (talk) 20:14, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Got a moment?

Yo, trusty sockhunter, could you look at the dude on Talk:Circassian genocide? He looks to MVBW and myself like a Jacob Peters sock, and I said as much but I have to get to life stuff right now and have no time to file the SPI (and wihtout this it looks like aspersions from me, not great), which you have more experience at anyways. Help me out? Thanks a hundred man, --Calthinus (talk) 20:04, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yep. I have interacted with that IP, and have a good understanding of their POV. I will have a look at Jacob Peter's socking history (which seems to be very long) and see what I can do. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:07, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
One IP that was blocked three times in the past for being a sock of Jacob Peters geolocates in the same area as the disruptive IP on the Circassian Genocide. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:12, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Calthinus: He is socking with other IPs as well [3]. Ktrimi991 (talk) 00:18, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, great. I'll get around to this soon.--Calthinus (talk) 02:15, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reverts

What do mean these reverts? First VisualEditor, second WikiBot? How this wiki can be edited without such fault? I mean source editor default.

I reverted you because you added an extraordinary amount of content, and to do that you need to place an explanation on the talk page of the article. WikiBot is a virtual tool, and reverts editors based on some certain characteristics. Maybe you problem with WikiBot would be solved by creating an account. Do you have sources for your edit? Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:29, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it is here: File:Alban-greek-alpha.jpg, and here.
OK. People who edit with IPs and face problems with bots are encouraged to create an account. I placed a message on your talk page on some benefits of having an account. Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:33, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Extraordinary amount of text was simply CTRL C CTRL V of whole article into section by mistake. Sorry.
Just reverted banned Dodona blanking of content. It was overlooked. See his block log at 217.24.240.89 IP number.
Forgot to tell it since, but this vandal whom I rollbacked, too was user:Dodona.
Do not forget to sign your comments. Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:38, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Page Discussion

There is a Page move discussion going on for Rajneesh. Would you be interested in participating? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rajneesh#Requested_move_11_June_2018 Accesscrawl (talk) 13:21, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gjon Kastrioti move request

You previously participated in discussions of the title of the Gjon Kastrioti article. The issue is again under discussion here if you care to participate. —  AjaxSmack  17:26, 2 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Off-wiki incivility"

What exactly do you mean by "your civility on and off wiki has been well documented"? Care to explain? Khirurg (talk) 22:46, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Khirurg: Do you accept me to post the evidence here? Ktrimi991 (talk) 11:40, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Or if you wish I can give my evidence to an admin via email service and they can give it to you. It is about sth that happened in 2016, just before a SPI was opened on me. Ktrimi991 (talk) 11:51, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You can email me directly. I won't bite. I had nothing to do with that SPI btw, I don't know what gives you the impression I did. Khirurg (talk) 16:46, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Khirurg: Of course I will not email you. Your situation is delicate and I do not want to get involved in it too much due to a lack of experience in such cases. It should be handled by admins. I found the evidence late June, and need to make sure I know the procedures and my privacy is ensured. Since I have real life occupations now maybe I forget to report you.lol If a report happens, it will be intended to make all of us become friendlier to each other and take Wikipedia for what it is: an encyclopedia for the better of which all people should collaborate without personal attacks and agression. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:19, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template

Thoughts? User:Calthinus/Template:Albanian_language --Calthinus (talk) 23:01, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Calthinus: Great! Te lumshin duart :) Is it ready for publication/creation as template? Ktrimi991 (talk) 23:04, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Some pages in it still need creation as they currently point to subsections on Albanian language. But if that is acceptable for the time being -- yes, I believe so. Was interested in your thoughts on it, if you have any. --Calthinus (talk) 23:06, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Calthinus: The template is of immense value for our coverage of Albanian language and culture. The lack of some articles instead of damaging the template, makes it more important. Those articles need to be created and enriched gradually. I think I will create them soon, time permitting. Ktrimi991 (talk) 23:26, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oh--awesome. If you ever need any help, I do have Vladimir Orel's work on Proto-Albanian as a PDF :). And I can clear up most anything in linguistics that might confuse you. --Calthinus (talk) 23:29, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Great. I think I can write them as drafts, you can make the needed improvements and then we can publish them as articles. Yes, Orel would help me because I do not have enough information on Proto-Albanian and its connections with ancient languages of the region. Ktrimi991 (talk) 23:35, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'll send it to you. Orel doesn't talk quite so much about the relationship of Proto-Albanian with Illyrian/Thracian/Dacian, but a lot about its relationship with Latin, and some about other interactions such as Greek. He covers a lot about its linguistic properties, like phonology and grammar. I have a subpage where I've written some stuff about this -- though its messy like most of my subpages are haha. Aigest might also be interested if we wanna collab to make Proto-Albanian more than a stub. --Calthinus (talk) 23:37, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Orel is surely of great help. Your subpage too. It is messy, but less messy than some articles I have written :) Thanks a lot! Ktrimi991 (talk) 23:43, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion requests

Please do not request a discussion be started and then not partake in it. Please partake in discussions you have requested. I am specifically referring to Loro Parque. 91.110.126.179 (talk) 17:36, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanks for taking my suggestion to present your arguments on the talk page into consideration. I will respond very soon. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:38, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion not removal

It's weird to accuse someone that he removed information while on the contrary I've provided in depth analysis of the specific general statements.Alexikoua (talk) 11:55, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Check your diffs yesterday and the first one today. There was removal of content. Everything will stay as and where it was agreed. No changes at all. Ktrimi991 (talk) 11:57, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nope it was expansion of a POV written part. By the way why must the same part be repeated again? For example [[4]] I suggest you calm down and read the text before adding the same information again and again.Alexikoua (talk) 12:03, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
See the talk page of the article and do not post clueless comments here. Balkan sanctions alert was placed on your talk page, you can call it sort of agression, but it does not help. Admins are now free to impose sanctions on you if they see it helpful. Ktrimi991 (talk) 12:08, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
A four sentences paragraph about Chams seems ok. Have you any ideas how to make it? I believe that it should became something like that: 1st "Italian policy promised that Chameria would be part of Great Albania after the end of the war. ..." , last one (the existing sentence about resistance in EAM) and somewhere in the middle also this "In the beginning, at least, collaboration was not a one-shot choice; Muslim communities followed different politics as per circumstances, alternating between collaboration, neutrality and, more seldom, resistance. Albanian and Greek communities changed sides by allying with the stronger available patron and shifting their allegiances when a more suitable one appeared.".Alexikoua (talk) 10:17, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I agree. I think that in particular the expulsion, its reasons (collab. by a part of the community, Greek nationalist policies etc) and the activities of Dino and other collab. in Albanian territory should not be mentioned as they are rather off-topic. The content that should be removed should go to other articles and links to those articles can be placed on the Italian zone sub-section or on the See also section. Ktrimi991 (talk) 13:54, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Reading the article, IMO the entire content on numbers of people killed should go to the Liberation and aftermath section. Such figures are given on both the German zone and the Liberation and aftermath section. Ktrimi991 (talk) 14:33, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The Muslim minority does not need any trimming. On the Vlach minority, what sentences do you suggest to keep? Ktrimi991 (talk) 14:35, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Italian policy promised that Chameria would be part of Albania after the end of the war. Large parts of the Cham Albanian community actively collaborated with the local Axis occupation. In the beginning, at least, collaboration was not a one-shot choice; Muslim communities followed different politics as per circumstances, alternating between collaboration, neutrality and, more seldom, resistance. Albanian and Greek communities changed sides by allying with the stronger available patron and shifting their allegiances when a more suitable one appeared. The events were part of a cycle of blood revenge between local communities over issues related to land ownership, state policies, sectarian hostilities, personal vendettas and the need to take a side in a chaotic situation, which only became nationalized during the war. An Albanian High Commissioner, Xhemil Dino, was appointed by the Italians, but his authority was limited, and for the duration of the Occupation, the area remained under direct control from the military authorities in Athens. Smaller numbers of the Cham Albanians became part of a mixed EAM battalion at the end of the war, without having opportunity to give any significant contribution against the Germans. IMO this has six sentences but is very balanced and is a good summary of the situation. If readers wish more info, they can visit links that should be provided in the beginning of the sub-section or on the See also section. If we agree on this, in the same way should the case of the Vlach community be treated . Ktrimi991 (talk) 15:31, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your time and effort with this one.Alexikoua (talk) 12:00, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You have my apology

I was convinced you were not in Wikipedia to make useful contributions to the project without resorting to WP:POV-ridden edits, and I had made bad assumptions about your motives, and I admit, I was on the venge of filling an AE report against you these days for your biased edits on ARBMAC-protected articles, due to what I have perceived that you are trying to defend the Chams for their Nazi crimes in Greece and an attempt to re-write WWII's history. However, after re-reading your Talk page comments, followed by a further inspection of your edit history and contribution log, such as this, [5] made me realize I was wrong about you and that you were not a WP:BADFAITH or troll editor and certainly not as incompetent as our recent heated discussion had led me to believe in you being. I am sincerely sorry. Still we may have vastly different opinions on WWII's events, and we may have yet to reach a consensus on the respective article's talk page, but we will have to find, for the sake of Wikipedia project, an way to communicate with each other better. --👧🏻 SilentResident 👧🏻 (talk ✉️ | contribs 📝) 17:48, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi SilentResident No problem. Balkan articles are difficult, and every human being makes mistakes. It is part of our nature as human beings to lose patience. Although I tend to report editors I feel are making mistakes, I had no intention to report you. I understood why you are sensitive to this content dispute and decided to assume sincere good faith. Many people have negative experiences, and helping them overcome those experiences is a very constructive thing. Reflecting and accepting the mistakes made by all sides of a war helps people to respect the memory of those who suffered. Wikipedia is an attractive platform because people of different backgrounds with different points of view are able to interact and know each other better. Wikipedia is a way to escape daily politics and all its nationalistic narratives. I try to do my best while editing, and try to understand those who think differently. All nations of the Balkans are victims of nationalism that goes against the nature of human beings. Accepting and understanding each other helps us be better and happier people. Of course we can solve the said content dispute, it is not difficult, and a framework for its solution has already been prepared. Ktrimi991 (talk) 19:14, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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That feeling when

You open up a source and it really does look scholarly but then you read further and it says... this... " According to recent historical data published by the Albanian historian Jusuf Buxhovi “Kosova “, volumes I - V, Prishtina, 2012 and by Orhan Rexhepi, 2012, “Pelasgian - Dardans from Atlantis to the Moon, Troy, Rome and the Albanians” with 458 pages, it is evid ent that from the antiquities to nowadays Albanians belong to one single tree, to one DNA; they are a people who has lived – at times free, and at times under occupation, in this corner of the globe, which is one of the most attractive places on Earth." ... sigh. Now it's the moon too I guess... What's next, Egypt?--Calthinus (talk) 18:52, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Calthinus: Exactly, Egypt! Read this book. If after reading it you feel confused, try this. Shhtttt. This is top secret universal knowledge. Do NOT tell anyone about this! Otherwise the "Wise men of Atlantis with their smerald tablets" will retaliate! They will take us to the Moon and give us some byrek me lakra ;-) Hahaha! Ktrimi991 (talk) 19:27, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Goddammit I can't believe it hahahahahaha. I suppose the Aztecs were part of the ancient Illyro-Dardano-Pelasgian Empire as well, after all burrito means "little man", right, and the Mayans too - after all Guatemala is from "ku ate mali", where the father mountain is, no other explanation. The evil Serbo-Greco-Turco-Italian conspiracy to hide the truth about how Albanians invented civilization and discovered both America and the moon cannot last much longer it seems, the truth is clear.--Calthinus (talk) 19:49, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Calthinus: Yes, "maya" comes from "maja buke". They used a lot of "maja buke" to make bread. The architects of the Illyrian pyramids of Bosnia (it is derived from "bozë", people there drink a lot of it) were transported to Latin America by Maat (whose headquarters were in Mat). To show how grateful they were to their ancestors who taught them some dark secrets of the world, the architects built some pyramids. During their return to Disneyland, they lost one of their nuclear bombs in Bermuda. Since then that area is dangerous. Should not we create an article for all of these? Perhaps an article about the book titled “Pelasgian-Dardans from Atlantis to the Moon, Troy, Rome and the Albanians”? Hahaha! Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:38, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps the page should be titled The civilizing of role of the Alblantean people and those ungrateful haters who plagiarized them. When we're done with that perhaps we should handle how Georgia and Azerbaijan were part of Ancient Serbia [[6]], not to mention clearly Serbian placenames on Sumatra :). The sons of the Balkans were born to rule the world :) --Calthinus (talk) 20:45, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Calthinus: Me shishen e rakisë në gji, botën ne sundojmë tani :-) Good idea regarding the article's name. Serbia is an old civilization, though not as old as Atlantis. The roots of the word "Serbia" can be found in "Sumer". Some Serbs of the Sumerian period went to Latin America. Since they were from Kolubara, they named the land they visited Colombia. By the way, your explanation of "burrito" is not entirely accurate. Instead of "little man", in Albanian it could mean "man with some serious issues" :-) Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:56, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Dude this historical falsification is unacceptable. How dare you claim Sumerians were Serbs. They were clearly 100% MAGYAR SCYTH HUNGARIANS [[7]] !!!!!!!!! If you don't stop your rabidly anti-Magyar Serbian nationalist crusade I will have to report you to ANI. --Calthinus (talk) 22:19, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Calthinus: Hahaha! It seems strange theories are not found only in the Balkans! Hungary has its own! I think I have edited the wrong stuff till now on Wikipedia. Since now I should focus on "the true origins" theories. I do not know with which theory to start though, they are all so funny! :-) Ktrimi991 (talk) 22:36, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oh but Hungary is hte Balkans according to Misha Glenny hehehe. I actually wonder if there are RS that compare all of these things, it could actually make an amusing page. To be fair, even Britain whas had some "Balkan" tendencies in the past :).--Calthinus (talk) 22:43, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Once we are done with the page and expanding Origin hypotheses of the Serbs, Origin hypotheses of the Hungarians, perhaps a nice joy ride probably leading to AE would be to make Origin hypotheses of Donald Trump, including the mainstream "Drumpf" hypothesis or the alternative [that he was adopted as a Pashtun orphan in Pakistan]. --Calthinus (talk) 22:49, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Calthinus: Hahaha! Wikipedia is neutral and should reflect all views :-) Ktrimi991 (talk) 15:38, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Good call man. You really made everyone's lives much easier today.--Calthinus (talk) 18:52, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Zalongo dance

Hi. I saw your edits on Dance of Zalongo. The article contains both the Albanian and Greek version of the song. IMO there is no need for changes there. Ktrimi991 (talk) 23:03, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello

after the english initial translation ("Zalongo dance") I have added the albanian term, after the greek one.

The user "Dr.K" deletes systematically the albanian term, in order to rpesent the event as "only greek" Why? This is nationalism! I agree that there is "no need for changes". Dr.K. makes changes, I restore the elementary IMPARTIALITY greetings Prof. Dimitri Dimoulis

Zalongo

Dear 991 the thing is unimportant, I agree. The important is how Dr.K in this page and in many others tried to delete content ("purification"???). After the title he don't accepts the albanian version of the words and he lets only the greek one. Wikipedia should not be partial or instrument of nationalists. This is my last contribution in this issue. many thanks dimitri

I have responded on your talk page. The issue is now solved. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 15:41, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Help Moving of the Serbian Industry

Hi,

I noticed your edits at Moving of the Serbian Industry, a page which I recently created. Having in mind that it is not an isolated event I will ask you directly: Are you following me around?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:47, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Antidiskriminator: Why do you think I am following you around? Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:50, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I explained why. Here is a link which also confirms what I wrote. Please do not follow me around to repeatedly confront me or inhibit my work. All the best.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:58, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Antidiskriminator: Look, you have made similar comments about many editors. Either take your conserns to ANI or stop posting nonsense on my talk page. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 22:14, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, Ktrimi991 is almost certainly following me around, not you Antid. It is certainly because he is a rabid Serbian nationalist who believes that the word "Serb" comes from "Sumer". Given that you yourself are a person who has moved beyond such backwards concepts as nationalism and has contributed great works demonstrating the bs of nationalism like Nationalization of history you should really not lower yourself to the level of this irrelevant Serbian nationalist gnat-- pay him no heed. --Calthinus (talk) 22:35, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Another Civility violation

Hi,

I noticed your edit (diff) in which you wrote stop posting bullshit here. That is another deliberate violation of WP:CIVILITY. Please be so kind not to repeat it again.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 16:29, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Antidiskriminator: What you said there is bullshit. As I have said, the issue in that case and in other cases is not ethnicity. Either you do not understand English or you are trying to create problems between editors. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 19:40, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I wanted to as is it okay to remove the wording "Northern Epirus". for people who were born in South Albania, where the content is not or malsourced? In every sngle page of someone who fought for greece and was born anywhere between korce and dhermi before 1945, the Greek Editors keep writing Northen Epirus. This is shameful as there is no source to that, nor is it true, as they use it even for historically incorrect times. Can you do something about it if possible? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by GjergjiZogaj126 (talkcontribs) 22:09, 15 September 2018 (UTC) [reply]

Hi @GjergjiZogaj126:. Northern Epirus is a ethno-religious concept that is linked with territorial claims Greece had over some Albanian lands. The said concept means nothing to all people except of some religious fanatics in Greece and internet trolls. Nations have national mythologies that help them define their identity. In the case of Greece, the national mythology consists of religious ideas, due to Greece not having an established ethnic identity. Hence in Northern Epirus narratives all Christians of Albania south of Shkumbin are Northern Epirotes. The term is used in a historical context in some reliable academic books to explain problems that secular Albania and ethno-religious Greece have nowadays. Usage of the term in the articles of obscure people that were born in Albania and contributed to national interests of Greece is not prohibited by Wikipedia. Enriching articles of cultural identity and religious tolerance in Albania would be of more value than deleting a term from articles of people who identified with the ethno-religious cause of Greece. Use only reliable sources to make your edits, discuss with other editors in a calm way and feel free to ask for help. Cheers, :-) Ktrimi991 (talk) 22:56, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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charismatic leader

On EOKA was led by a charismatic religious leader and its members were committed to Hellenism, an ideology which has an important religious aspect.. I surely can find credible sources for the first part. Give me some time. But some the ideology was Enosis, not hellenism. Hellenism as a word describing the certain ideology is not that popular and might be misleading. Plus, do you claim that Enosis (or Megali Idea) had religious aspects? I think that is difficult to establish. It is much easier to claim that "Cypriot church supported Enosis". Heinz A. Richter (2007) goes further and claims that it was the secularization that the new ruler (british) tried to establish, that pushed the Church towards Enosis. Didn't surprise me, to be honest. Cheers. Τζερόνυμο (talk) 20:03, 29 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @Τζερόνυμο:. My concern was that the article did not elaborate on the relations between EOKA and the Church/religion. Hellenism is part of Greek national identity (like Albanianism is part of Albanian nationali identity). Hellenism reflects cultural values of Greek people, and is shaped by political and historical factors. Two of those factors are secularity and Greek Orthodoxy. Hence religion is part of Hellenism. National movements always have secular and religious aspects within them. For instance, one of the first major manifestations of the Albanian National Awakening was a (rather) religious (Muslim) organization, the League of Prizren. I have actually written some articles about problems some religious segments caused to national identites in the Balkans (mostly about the cases Kosovo and Albania). You added good content on the issue of EOKA's position regarding religion, and I am happy with it. The article is now balanced on the matter, and adding more similar stuff could be redundant. Thank you, Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:04, 29 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your question

I think it is probably this.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:55, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Bbb23: It makes sense. Thanks, Ktrimi991 (talk) 04:56, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Racism as rationale at wikipedia

I noticed that you continued to use your racist based rationale to dispute reliablity of the sources and removal of cited text, like you did here (diff) based on the wrong ethnicity of author as per your comment here (diff).

"Wrong" ethnicity of authors of the sources is not valid argument to proclaim some source as unreliable. If you believe that it is, go to RSN and reach consensus for your positon. Until then please do not use it on wikipedia again.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:05, 26 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You asked an admin on the issue and the responses there were not those you expected, right? Cheers and get informed about the definition of "racism". Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:10, 26 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I reported you (diff) because of your modus operandi to use "wrong nationality" of authors as an excuse to remove text which does not correspond to your POV. Since no admin responded to my report you intend to continue with this modus operandi as long as you are allowed to do so.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:20, 26 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
When you tried to push your absurd POV that Albanians are committing a genocide against Serbs, an editor who seems to be a Serb asked you to provide non-Serbian sources. Remember? A few days ago I and some Serbian editors discussed some content issues and agreed that using Albanian and Serbian sources to make strong claims regarding Albanians or Serbs is absurd. AFAIK, only you try to push that sort of POV. You are always reverted though. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:26, 26 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Another editor reverted you. Why? Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:34, 26 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kind Reminder

Hey there! I dont mean to be pushy, but can you please complete the paraphrasing/rewording of the EOKA section? No need to rush, but please have in mind! Thank you! Cinadon36 (talk) 17:02, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The Socratic Barnstar
I admit I was quite harsh towards you. Disagreements happen. But also, agreements can happen as well. Right? I was checking the chat history about Ancient Macedonian topic articles now, until I stumbled upon this editor's talk page: [8]. I wouldn't say it any better than you! Your gasp of the Balkan realities, is quite admirable. Please do not be surprised if I copy/borrow your statement in the future. 👧🏻 SilentResident 👧🏻 (talk ✉️ | contribs 📝) 22:57, 1 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi!

Hi Ktrimi991! Just passing by and stopped to say hi! Well, since I am here :), can you have a look at the latest proposal in the article of EOKA and provide some help? I feel that the last sentence will raise objections, as the word "terrorism" is used, so can you please re-phrase or reshape it? Thanks! Cinadon36 (talk) 06:57, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cinadon36! Thanks for your visit to my talk page. I made a comment there. If you need more help, tell me. Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:19, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There is a new proposed text conserning EOKA. Mind having a look? [9]. Cheers! Cinadon36 (talk) 17:53, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Skanderbeg

Don´t unite all 3 sources, because just one claims his Bulgarian origin. FkpCascais (talk) 21:12, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It would be great if you took the dispute to the article's talk page so other potentially interested editors can notice it on their watchlist and say their opinion. Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:15, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yo FkpCascais, the "punk" [10] (to use your words about me) wants to inform you that blogs are not reliable sources to support the ramblings of an IP. Making edits based on wp:idontlikeit reasons is disruptive editing. Consult wp:reliable and wp:civil as well to familarise yourself with wiki procedures.Resnjari (talk) 21:28, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, we dont need to go to the process of discussing every obvious thing just for you to delay the change of content in the article that you don´t like. That sentence was badly sourced. There are two separate claims, one Serbian, another Bulgarian. Each should display the sources of their own. In this case, there is 1 claiming Bulgarian origin (Bulgarian source) and plenty of non-Serbian (thus stronger for being neutral), claiming Serbian origin. Separating sources to source what each one claims is something we should do. Gathering sources to add one exceptional claim into what are standard claims, is a no-no. FkpCascais (talk) 21:55, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, that not's how you went by it. First you called editors whose edits you didn't agree with you "Albanian" in the talkpage, then supported the comments of an IP and used a blog to give as a reason for your editing [11] all in one post. Now your just attempting to back track here.Resnjari (talk) 22:17, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Resnjari and FkpCascais: This source [12] says that a Bulgarian origin of Voisava is supported by several historians. Should we add this source to the article and put an end to the dispute? Ktrimi991 (talk) 22:29, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
So add that source to the Bulgarian origin claim. Who is she by the way? FkpCascais (talk) 00:11, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I find out. She is an Albanian who wrote many books about Albanian history. Would you like me to start bringing Serbian historians and add what they say about this issue? FkpCascais (talk) 00:16, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at FkpCascais' additions there are problems. The first his addition of Theodōros Spandouginos [13]. The source is a English translation of a Greek medaevil text from the 1530s. That is wp:primary and WP:AGEMATTERS. Please especially on things like this about origin, RS sources that are wp:secondary for neutrality purposes. The second source that was added [14] by Waltz does not refer to Skanderbeg as Serbian, but only mentions the Serb factor in Alb history at that point in time. So its an OR addition to the article.Resnjari (talk) 22:43, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Move review: Paradisus Judaeorum

(sent out exact copy to all AfD participants - apologize if you are aware) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Heaven for the nobles, Purgatory for the townspeople, Hell for the peasants, and Paradise for the Jews which you were involved in, is in discussion at Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2018 December. Input there is welcome.Icewhiz (talk) 07:16, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Latest sock

Is a very fascinating case. Clear evidence of having a past account includes posts to wiki policy pages [[15]] [[16]] and piping in on ongoing discussion on Talk:Jimbo Wales here [[17]] with clear knowledge of obscure wiki rules -- also knowledge of copyright [[18]]. Also of interest is medical interests where he uses manual ref formatting [[19]], Roman history [[20]], South Asian ethnography [[21]] and Mid Eastern [[22]], Israeli politics -- where he interestingly takes a pro-Likud POV [[23]], as well as an interest in pornography [[24]] that he seems to be fine having in his edit history :). Or alternatively -- we are dealing with a current user who has a side account for edits he doesn't want tracked -- which makes the pornography, weed, and other sex related edits make more sense. We are definitely dealing with either a current user socking, or a permabanned but established user.--Calthinus (talk) 19:37, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tagging Ivanvector who may take an interest in this -- likely multi-month socking going on here by an established user who remains yet unidentified. --Calthinus (talk) 19:38, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In particular this sentence rings a bell but I just can't place it : [| "...in practice no point of view, a sort of radical skepticism or nihilism..."] --Calthinus (talk) 19:52, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hey @Calthinus:, the guy was AMES. The same fringe POV, the same pattern of expressing themselves. AMES once used a Slovenia IP, this time it was an Austria IP. Slovenia and Austria are neighbours. It seems that he was on holiday and wanted to make a joke . Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:49, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well this means that AMES has been participating as an IP in discussions about policy and on Jimbo's TP... during his ban.--Calthinus (talk) 18:12, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Regarding Page : Parul Mathur

Enogh references have been added to the page. Page deletion not needed. Workmk (talk) 20:44, 26 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No worries Workmk. An AfD discussion is not merely for deletion, it also serves for article improvement. The community will provide its imput and an admin or experienced editor will close the discussion with the result being based on the community's input. Feel free to provide your rationale at the discussion. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:48, 26 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Btw @Workmk:, if both these accounts are yours [25][26], you should use only one of them based on WP:Sockpuppetry. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:55, 26 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I only possess this account which I am using.

@Ktrimi991 , I don't have any other account. I just saw this page in the list of pages for deletion Workmk (talk) 21:05, 26 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

About guidance

Kindly guide me with your suggestions in extending Police and army history of India. I shall be thankful to you. Workmk (talk) 21:07, 26 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What is the name of the article you want to improve? Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:09, 26 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Ktrimi991 I want to add more things to A. N. Upadhyay and Chhattisgarh Police. Kindly help in extending these. These are two important topics of Chhattisgarh, a state in India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Workmk (talkcontribs) 21:14, 26 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I created an sandbox for you. You can write content there and when you feel ready you can post the content on the relevant article. Try to write the content you wish there, and I will keep an eye and make any needed changes. Check the following link [27]. Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:19, 26 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You

Thank You Workmk (talk) 00:33, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you need help, tell me. I plan to be not much active in the near future, as I am busy with real life stuff. But will try to keep an eye on Wikipedia. Ktrimi991 (talk) 06:45, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Can you please withdraw delete nomination for article Parul Mathur. I have worked a lot to add references. I know the person as well. She is a popular celebrity in Chhattisgarh, India. I shall be thankful to you. Workmk (talk) 07:01, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Other editors are demanding deletion, so I can not do much. But no worries Workmk. An AfD discussion is not merely for deletion, it also serves for article improvement. The community will provide its imput and an admin or experienced editor will close the discussion with the result being based on the community's input. I suggest you copy the content of the article and save it in a Word document. You might be able to write it better after you gain some experience. Meanwhile, try editing existing articles, that would help you a lot. Ktrimi991 (talk) 07:05, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Ktrimi991 , Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Workmk (talkcontribs) 07:08, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Hey there!

Hi Ktrimi996, how are you? May I ask your help? Can you check history of anarchism for spelling or grammar errors? If it is too much and you have other obligations, it is ok, I do not want to sound pushy. Cheers! Cinadon36 (talk) 06:25, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Cinadon36:, you have done a great job on that article. It is of great value as it belongs to a very important topic. I will have a look at it for spelling/grammar this weekend, most probably tomorrow. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 16:32, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The only connection between me and AutosomalDrafter is that I appreciate its autosomal DNA mapping because, amazingly, it reflects 10-year-old DNA research. I was amazed when I saw this work. It gives the reader an enormously good picture of the last 30,000 years of migration. We can see how the Indo-European expansion (EHG) moved from Eastern Europe far to East and South Asia. If I could, I would improve the map, as some details (such as the Iran Neolithics and WHG Haplogroups I1 and I2) are missing. I do not know why people want this card removed from this page. Where can I discuss such disputes? 185.134.130.77 (talk) 22:54, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I asked if you are linked with AutosomalDrafter since one or more editors reverted you mentioning the said account. I do not have an opinion on the matter. I reverted back to the pre-dispute version till things are sorted out on the article's talk page. Click the following link to go to the article's talk page where you can provide your rationale and seek the consensus of other editors [28]. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 23:10, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Current state of Cham organization articles : Shoqata Çameria is a stub with two sentences, Democratic Foundation of Chameria has (in terms of material that should be there) about 2-3 paragraphs of encyclopedic material plus a BLP headache and a paragraph devoted to an abortive fake news episode, Bilal Xhaferri Cultural Association is also essentially a one section article, PDIU is a broader political party whose page should be expanded, National Political Association Chameria is more of the same as another one-section article essentially, ditto for Albanian_American_Organization_Chameria which is not in the navigation box somehow, and finally Chameria_Human_Rights_Association is also a one section page once you remove a coatrack section about Chams in the US.--Calthinus (talk) 19:31, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Calthinus: I am taking a look at each of them one by one. Firstly, Krahu i shqiponjës and Bilal Xhaferri Publishing House could be merged with Bilal Xhaferri Cultural Association. PDIU, PDU, DFC need their own articles. They can be easily expanded. Chameria Human Rights Association, National Political Association "Çamëria", Albanian American Organization Chameria, Shoqata Çameria and maybe other similar articles for the existence of which I am not aware, could be merged into an article. I am not sure whether the Biloal Xhaferri organization should be merged in that article or not as I am not sure whether its activities are focused only on patriotic stuff. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:05, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That new article could also include Liberation Army of Chameria. I do not see how it can further expanded; it is known only for an act that maybe happened more than 10 years ago. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:12, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Chameria Institute, although not an article, could be included in the new article as there is a sufficient amount of info. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:21, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This sounds fairly reasoned.--Calthinus (talk) 20:50, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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there is a war of editions in the article of Mexico City between me and the User:Generic515, please I need you to act in mediation, it is about the color of a group of images that he wants to gray the box and I think it distorts the article besides that it does not match the rest of images. thank you very much.

And there's another war in the article Demographics of Serbia between me and another user who doesn't want to leave the data with reference from the Serbian government. thanks I appreciate so much your help.--BrugesFR (talk) 05:50, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @BrugesFR:. I made a comment on the talk page of the Mexico City article. On the other article, I will take a look at it when I have more time as those Balkan disputes tend to be messy. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 15:22, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello lazy weasel Ktrimi991, I read this. Why don't you answer at the talk page where I clarified that the redirection was due to source? It sure seems to me to be a constructive edit. --79.106.127.65 (talk) 12:38, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hatake, how have you been? Long time no see. On Bejte, you need to make a proper move request. You can not move pages by yourself as you are not using one of your many accounts. Making copy paste moves is not allowed in such cases. Hence you got rv. I do not care about that trivial thing: "bejte" or "bejtexhi" does not make that big difference. Ktrimi991 (talk) 12:49, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Grumpy, as always, you? How are your windmill battles here going? Okay, thanks for clarifying. It sure does make a big difference, because bejte is the calque the Albanian language has for beit as clarified by Tahir Dizdari's dictionary I quoted there. And bejtexhi is as per source, as you know well. It is in the honour of the referenced article to be in its right place like in all the other wikis. --79.106.127.65 (talk) 12:57, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You better list your arguments in your move request, if you make one. Bye Sejko, Greipfrutaroma or Hatake, whatever your preferred username is. Ktrimi991 (talk) 13:02, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You can be constructive and make the move by yourself given you are the windmill guardians here. I already placed the autoritative sources there. Anyways, thanks again. Have a good one --79.106.127.64 (talk) 13:07, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The three revert rule was never broken, please dont post falsehoods on my talk page. Thanks. Apples&Manzanas (talk) 08:49, 16 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Kopaonik

Can you stop bullying people? Kopaonik mountain is not in 'Kosovo'...Kosovo and Metohy is a part of Serbia . You can see that on map on article . Not one Albanian or 'Kosovar' citizen is not leaving on Kopaonik mountain. Add that to the article if you can or if you have info about that ! Info you are trying to add to this article is false. So stop doing that ,and stop bullying people who do good and argumet things .

@PakleniVuk:, do not forget to sign your comment. Your opinion that I should stop "bullying people" is surprising, if we have not interacted with each other before (have we?). Kopaonik is partly in Kosovo and partly in Serbia as per reliable sources such as this and this. The process of editing Wikipedia is based on such policies as WP:Verify, not on personal views. Ktrimi991 (talk) 22:19, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Ktrimi911: As I was All ready saying, what for you is country for me is not ,what for you is a border for me it's not .In that light I can give you as much as you whant links as proff of my statement and we can go on this for a centuries . Point is that on a whole mountain don't leave 'Kosovars' or Albanian people . Until we (as people ) including all couturiers accept and found definition about is Kosovo independent state or not ,please respect people that lives in or on that mountain or around her. We (including my self) are not fell like we are part of 'Kosovo country ' . One part of a mountain is on Kosovo and Metohy ,Serbian province,for us. If someone pushing against people who live on that mountain and around her and call them by name of something that is not country for them ,that means that he is bullying them . So please, until Kosovo and Metohy don't get UN recognition or some other agreement is not signed that can precise give us explanation what 'Kosovo' is and in what borders, don't use Albanian translation, or 'Kosovo' redirection in this article of Kopaonik mountain because that is a part of bullying people, and most violent way of discrimination. Words'Kopaonik ' or 'Kosovo'ar Serbian (Slavic) words and don't have meaning on Albanian. Thanks for understanding. That's why my changes on page are more suitable for this article. It can be written in article that mountain is partly in Serbia ,and partly on territory of so called Kosovo ,but not on the top of the article and with Albanian translation.

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Please correct your comment

Giving a barnstar [29] and endorsing disrespectful comments they made against non-English people whose the writing skills aren't as good, and giving that barnstar right below the very same thread which contains these complaints [30] was very low and inappropriate of you. Endorsing and encouraging such behavior, is frown upon. You are called to either 1) self-revert yourself or 2) correct your comment by striking the "perfectly wording" part in it. Refusing to do so, will result in your name being included in the WMF filling. --- SilentResident (talk ✉ | contribs ✎) 20:06, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ignore my warning. The ANI Thread's closure was ammended and the WMF filling is cancelled. This barnstar however remains a source of concern for your sensitivity towards other editors, Ktrimi991. You ought to re-consider your stance. --- SilentResident (talk ✉ | contribs ✎) 23:47, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Coi editor

You're right about the coi and I warned him about it last year.ive warned him again. Doug Weller talk 21:13, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Doug Weller. Ktrimi991 (talk) 22:37, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There is still hope for  Wikipedia

"You are one of the very rare editors willing and having the guts to do that" Are you kidding me? All editors should do it in good faith not me, who am I to do it alone? If for some change ie better article needs "guts" then situation is very bad. I know that no one is following Balkan history but there must be some control. Statuta Valachorum(Vlachs) article and we read about Serbs? Other editors instead of correcting this anomaly they keep old data. They probably do it in good faith? I added data to the article(Statuta Valachorum) that was deleted so I suggest that on your page I explain all these changes so you will tell me what we can do with that information to make article as accurate as possible. I guess everyone should work together to keep articles accurate as possible so you're probably kidding when you mentioned "guts". If you disagree with proposal then sorry for the annoyance. Mikola22 (talk) 16:52, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mikola22, such Balkan articles often are rather difficult to edit, and one should expect that. See the editing history of the article, and notice how few editors have paid attention to it. It is a very good thing you want to improve that article, and I am willing to give some help. I found some reliable sources, and will try to combine them with yours in order to make some content ready for addition to the article. Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:05, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved, you will see my information and sources and then you will tell me what to do. In an hour or two i'll post info so stay close.Mikola22 (talk) 17:18, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Statuta Valachorum

  • on 5 October 1630 that defined the rights of "Vlachs" (a term used for a community of mostly Orthodox refugees, mainly Serbs and no feudal obligations made the Orthodox Serbs valuable allies for the monarchy in its seventeenth-century struggle were mainly Serbs.

I am deleting this part "(mainly Serbs)" because this requires consensus, the other sources(books etc) do not mention mainly Serbs as Orthodox refugees in that part of Croatia ie Varaždin Generalat and evidence for this is provided in the sources I cite below throughout the page.

{Statuta Valachorum covered Orthodox Vlachs, but still their regulations were refer to all Grenzers regardless of their religious affiliation. [1] plus new additional source [2]

  • In the mid-16th century, the Military Frontier was established as a buffer against the Ottoman Empire. Balkan refugees, including Vlachs, Serbs etc, crossed into Habsburg lands. [3]

I added Vlachs and etc here, I now add an additional source for this claim.[4]

  • Slavonia (including the Varaždin Generalate) was continuously settled by Vlachs, Serbs and others from various regions since the 15th century.[5]

I add Vlachs and others here and new additional source [6]

  • A large migration of Serbs (called "people of Rascians or Vlachs") and Vlachs into Croatia and Slavonia from Ottoman territory took place from 1597. to 1600.[7]

I add here and Vlachs and now new additional source [8]

  • Habsburg Monarchy would be notably weakened and threatened; at an assembly of ca. 3,400 war-equipped Vlachs, Serbs and other Grencers it was promised that the Vlachs[9][10]

Here I add Grencers, and now additional source [11]


  • In early 1630, representatives of Croatian nobility, Vlachs and Serbs met in Vienna... however, the unhappy Vlachs and Serbs between the Sava and Drava instead gave colone..[12]

Here I add Vlachs because there are no historical documents that mention Serbs in Vienna otherwise this Serbian source(book) mentions the Serbs throughout whole book instead of Vlachs so it should see if this is RS, in any case the mention of the Serbs remained in the quotation. Since the Serbian source is talking about Serbs from Rovišće who allegedly were in Vienna, my additional new source mentions Vlachs in that same Rovišće not Serbs[13] exstra source that mentions Vlachs in Rovišće [14]


  • These grants to Serbs and Vlachs made them valuable allies of the Habsburg government against the Catholic Croatian nobility.[15]

Here I add Vlachs and now exstra source [16]

  • The Statuta Valachorum significantly influenced on change in the ethnic image of this part of Croatia, the arge numbers of Orthodox Vlachs settled in this area among which were later infiltrated and numerous Catholic Croats.[17] Additional source [18]

I enter this information based on the source.

  • Karl Kaser (Historiker) Historian[19]
  • Doctor LÁSZLÓ HEKA "Njegov je istraživački rad u početku bio na području pravne povijesti, a potom i komparativnog prava. Usredotočuje se na pravni sustav hrvatske, južnoslavenske i slavenske države, kao i na vjerske pravne sustave (islamsko i židovsko pravo). Također proučava pravo (etnički romski Kris i albansko uobičajeno pravo) i etnografiju naroda, etničkih grupa, vjerskih skupina koje žive u regiji jugoslavenskog Balkana, kao i povijest Hrvata u Mađarskoj, posebno Dalmatinaca u Segedinu." translation "His research work was initially in the field of legal history and then comparative law. It focuses on the legal system of the Croatian, South Slavic and Slavic states, as well as on the religious legal systems (Islamic and Jewish law). He also studies law (ethnic Roma Kris and Albanian customary law) and the ethnography of peoples, ethnic groups, religious groups living in the Yugoslav Balkan region, as well as the history of Croats in Hungary, especially Dalmatians in Szeged" So far, 18 volumes, monographs, textbooks and 58 scientific publications on this topic have been published in Hungarian, Croatian, Serbian and German language.[20] The last book for now "Croatian-Hungarian Settlement"[21]


  • Additional sources and data:
  • Mirko Marković Croatian historian [22]

Eastern Slavonia, Vlach population(16th and 17th century) needs well distinguished from ethnic Serbs who come here in the late 17th and early 18th century as fugitives from southern Serbia(from the Turks)

  • “Statuta Confiniariorum Varasdinensium” iz 1732. godine: latinski i kajkavski tekst

This is law who supposed to be replacement of "Statuta Valachorum" and in that law from 1732 are mentioned (page 38. from source) "Što se tiče novoga krajiškog zakona, sadržaj novih Statuta otkriva neke razlike u odredbama iz 1630. i 1732. godine, na primjer u uvodnome dijelu teksta ne spominje se općina Vlaha (communitas Valachorum) između Save i Drave kao 1630. godine nego se govori o krajišnicima Varaždinskoga generalata ili o vojničkome puku koji se nalazi između Save i Drave (latinski: Statuta Confiniariorum Varasdinensium, seu Populi militaris Savum intra et Dravum habitantis; na kajkavskom jeziku Statuta, Pravicze ili Articulusi krainschanov Varasdinszkih ili Puka Voinichkoga met Szavum y Dravum sztoichega), a kao krajišnici su u latinskome tekstu navedeni “Croati” i “Valachi,” translate "With regard to the new law, the content of the new Statutes reveals some differences in the provisions of 1630 and 1732, for example, in the introductory part of the text no reference is made to the municipality of Vlach (communitas Valachorum) between Sava and Drava as 1630, but to the grencers of the Varazdin Generalate or of a military regiment located between the Sava and the Drava (Latin: Statute of Confiniariorum Varasdinensium, seu Populi militaris Savum intra et Dravum habitantis; in which the Latin text refers to "Croatians" and "Valachi,"[23]

  • Balkan Wars Habsburg Croatia, Ottoman Bosnia, and Venetian Dalmatia, 1499–1617 James D.Tracy, 2016, (page 353, 354,355) "In February 1597, Ferdinand issued a decree to the effect that Vlachs transferring to his land swould be free of both taxes and labor service(robot) so long as they served as fighting men. A first large group of Vlachs now crossed over and were assigned land by General Herberstein. In June 1597, Vlach leaders proposed that more people would come if Herberstein camped near Virovitica; when hedid, 1,700 came over.... Among the Vlachs were some Greek Catholics, in union with Rome.."[24]
  • "Već od konca 16. stoljeća Vlasi se naseljavaju na polupusta plemićka i crkvena vlastelinstva u Križevačkoj županiji, istočnim dijelovima Varaždinske i Zagrebačke županije te u Posavini i Pokuplju.".. "Since the end of the 16th century Vlachs settled on the half-empty manor estate in Križevci county, the eastern parts of the Varaždin and Zagreb county and in Posavina and Pokuplje."[25]Mikola22 (talk) 19:39, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK Mikola22, I will soon ping you to see a draft. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:31, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    No problem, if more evidence is needed from these two main sources feel free to let me know. This source of Austrian historian ie book "Karl Kaser, 1997, Slobodan seljak i vojnik: Rana krajiška društva, 1545-1754"[26] has more information about Vlachs, here I only mentioned the main claim(Fugitives are in the sources without exception called as Vlachs, they are very rarely called as Uskoks, Pribjezi, Predavci). Mikola22 (talk) 21:05, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Great manipulation with sources, take from one, delete from another, ignore the fact that Vlach/Morlac was often a synonym for Serbs and Orthodox Christians and that it had 3-4 meanings throughout history (class, religion, nation, ethnicity); what a great pseudointellectual buffet. It is a pleasure to see Balkan people working together for a noble goal! cheers Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 22:47, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Sadko:, do not make personal attacks on Mikola22. It is pointless and will not help you in any way, unless you want to produce evidence against yourself. I agree that "Valachorum" in the case of the statute meant "Orthodox Christian" regardless of language and ethnic identity. I am preparing a draft but might take some time as I am rather busy in real life. Ktrimi991 (talk) 00:11, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I am just reading what is in front of me. I do not need help of any sort, I do my own work. The current text is a Frankenstein-like creation and I plan to alert various Wiki projects of any problems, bad use of sources and lack of consensus, because this is some new sort of revisionism - and we already have enough of it in the Balkans. The idea is pretty much simple (and this is not addressed to you Ktrimi); one should add Vlach where there is a mention of Serbs in modern-day Croatia. It will furthter prove that Serbs of Croatia are only some poor Vlachs, and that they were brainwashed to become Serbs by the Serbian Orthodox Church, which can be later used for daily politics. Vlah holds the same meaning for Serbs as Šiptar does for Albanians... I hope that you will have this in mind. This is another popular narrative in Croatia, mostly in right-wing and modern Ustaše circles. I claim that this is only a more sophisticated form of bias driven POV, which can be seen from the whole body of work. And no, I am not attacking anyone, just analysing what I can see here and telling you what you are taking a part of, because I guess that your knowledge of Serbo-Croatian circles and various data is limited. Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 00:30, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Sadko: I am aware of the misuse of the term "Vlach" in some Balkan nationalist circles. It is part of a general trend in the Balkans to misuse history to support various claims, a trend that unfortunately culminated in the 1990s. You and Mikola22 can sort out your content disputes by using reliable sources published by reputable universities and other similar publishers. Ktrimi991 (talk) 00:46, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Sadko: You do not edit article in good faith. Large migrations of Serbs(Rascians) go towards eastern Slavonia, Banat, Vojvodina. In the area of Varaždin, Koprivnica ie to the river Sava, Vlachs(Uskoks, Predavci etc) are coming probably and groups of Rascians, who mix with the Croatian serfs and Croatian serfs migrating en masse to that area and they are all there under the Vlach name. We cannot promote Serbian name throughout whole article. I did not delete Serbs from article(except twice "Vlachs are mostly Serbs"). I quote: "Thus, speaking of the origin of the ancient and medieval Vlachs, Roman(ised) people might become modern Romanians, while “Illyrians” might turn into present-day Albanians. Alternatively, South Slav (i.e., former Yugoslav) historiographies insist on exclusive Slavic character (if not origin) of the Vlachs. As a result, it became a norm (though nowadays more or less abandoned) to write the initial letter of Vlach name in lower-case – vlah instead of Vlah[27] Austrian historian Karl Kaser says this for Vlachs in Slavonia(Varaždin Generalate) I quote: numerous families of Slavonians have been among the Vlachs since the settlement, in 1635 a commission was formed with order to separate Vlachs from private Vlachs(Croatian native Vlachs from that area) and from Slavonians and Predavci however this was only partially successful for the commission (page 102), it can be said with great certainty that these Vlachs were once Romanized groups which after the departure of the Romans become nomads. Balkan states have tried to integrate these Vlachs but it could only succeed incompletely but nevertheless the gradualy Slavicization of Vlachs began with parallel integration into the Greek Orthodox Church(page 92). Croatian academician Mirko Marković 2002, I quote: "Vlach population(16th and 17th century) needs well distinguished from ethnic Serbs who come here(eastern Slavonia, Vojvodina) in the late 17th and early 18th century as fugitives from southern Serbia(from the Turks)". We need to understand that Statuta Valachorum covers all population in that area and there are many others among Vlachs, there are also private Vlachs ie Croatian Vlachs there. This is specific situation in the area of Varaždin Generalate and as far as eastern Slavonia, Banat and Vojvodina are concerned this is a topic for another article and sources about Serbs can be cited more extensively there. In any case we must respect the name of the law ie "Valachorum" and we must not turn it into "Slavonian", "Croatian", "Serbian" law. Mikola22 (talk) 07:56, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Mikola, @Sadko, @Ktrimi - Vlachs (Vlasi) of Western Balkans were indigenous romanized population, whose descendants living in Dalmatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro, Albania, southern Serbia, Kosovo, and who were present and already Christianized in times when Slavs started migrating into Balkan. They became Albanians, Croats, Serbs, and even Muslims (as Bosnian Muslims or Bosniaks). They were called different names back then, and those names persisted to our times and mutated into various derogatory nicknames and slurs: Vlasi, Morlaci, Škutori, Šiptari. These people will than get assimilated into (pre)modern Albanian and various South Slavic ethnicities, regardless of religion, and although they long lost their original language and culture, they preserved some hints to their distinct past - for example, among Croats, Serbs, Montenegrins and Bosnian Muslims they can be detected with their distinct surnames, uncharacteristically for South Slavs lacking diminutive suffix "ić", so that you have Cimirot, Hrabren, Borjani, Banjani, Rudinje, all Serbs really, rather with "typical" Slavic-Serb surnames (right? ;-)); or Croats named, "traditionally", Bobani, Pribini, Hardomili, you see, quite typical for Slavic-Croat surnames, stretching back to times and space of "White Croatia" on Titan; or Montenegrins Nikše and Njeguši (translator, anyone?), or "typical" Slavic-Bosnian Muslim surnames Zlatar, Kebo, or Serbo-Bosniaks Kujave, Ridžani, Pješivci; or Serbo-Croatian-Muslim Boljuni, Burmazi; Jesus-Cimirot-Christ was Serb/Croat/Muslim. Thankfully, contemporary scholars are no longer completely absorbed by ideology of nation-building from times immemorial and "ancient" Serbs/Croats, they understand and write about indigenous population of pre-Slavic times.--౪ Santa ౪99° 02:03, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Each area of Croatia, Bosnia etc should be treated in accordance with historical facts, historical records and RS. I agree with the claim that "indigenous romanized population, whose descendants living in Dalmatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro, Albania, southern Serbia, Kosovo," but these Vlachs also exist in the Turkish period in large numbers. So we cannot originally know who they are(because we have no historical documents to establish that). This article is specifically about area of Varaždin Generalate in which many others live under Vlach's name, in that area Catholics and Orthodox are called Vlachs. Croatian peasants flee massively to that area to become Vlachs(because of the privileges). But someone entered the Serbian name throughout whole article although they are least mentioned there. We need to make the article more accurate and neutral and normally to comply with RS-ources. I was putting Serbs next to Vlachs but the question is how accurate is my edit when my main source (an Austrian historian) speaks only about Vlachs who later become Serbs or Croats. @Ktrimi said he would propose his own version so we'll see what this is all about. But in any case we must work together to make the article more accurate. Mikola22 (talk) 16:22, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
they can be detected with their distinct surnames, uncharacteristically for South Slavs lacking diminutive suffix "ić" So, for example, "Jouan Preradouicz Stari Vlah", "Mikula Olierouicz Stari Vlah" etc. from the mentioned Karl Kaser's book POPIS LIKE I KRBAVE 1712. GODINE are not Vlachs in fact?--Nicoljaus (talk) 07:53, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Which origin these surnames confirm? Montenegrins, Vlachs, Serbs, Croats, Bosniaks have these surnames.Mikola22 (talk) 18:08, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Mikola22, how have you been? I have not forgotten the content dispute, I have just been busy lately. I will post my draft proposal later today or tomorrow. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:08, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Here i am editing Wikipedia as always. I thought you are scared, because it would be an earthquake(our edit).Mikola22 (talk) 20:17, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just to state some facts on my part.
  • Under Vlachs of Varaždin Generalate according to the book of Austrian historian Karl Kaser are Orthodox and Catholics.
  • Area of Statuta Valachorum is from the Sava river to the Drava river. Area under Hasburg administration not Ottoman Slavonia.[28]
  • Croatian peasants(serfs) flee massively to that area, part also convert to Orthodoxy and they become Vlachs.
  • Mirko Marković Croatian academician in his 600-page book(2002) on Slavonia states that "Vlach population(16th and 17th century) needs well distinguished from ethnic Serbs who come here in the late 17th and early 18th century as fugitives from southern Serbia(from the Turks)" They(Serbs) most migrate to Vojvodina and eastern Slavonia.[29]
  • Were there any Serbs among the Orthodox inhabitants of Varaždin Generalate and Statuta Valachorum, probably yes but we cannot because of this the whole article convert to Serbian Statuta. There are others there(about half were Croatian serfs), Catholics as well so we must also respect and that. We need to make article neutral as possible. And we need to limit our view of things just to that area and that population.
  • "Orthodox Slavs and Vlachs fled from the Ottomans into Dalmatia, Bosnia, and Herzegovina, or farther northward across the Danube. They were strategically resettled in the area of the military frontier. Many people retreated to the mountains of Albania, Greece, and Montenegro, where, as migratory shepherds, they remained largely untouchedby Ottoman rule."[30] We need to understand that the whole Balkans is fleeing and that unfortunately we do not know who the Vlachs originally were, they could also be Albanians, Montenegrins, Croats, Macedonians etc. We need to look at history realistically. Mikola22 (talk) 07:04, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Ladislav Heka, 2019, The Vlach law and its comparison to the privileges of Hungarian brigands,"Njima su prvenstveno bili obuhvaćeni pravoslavni Vlasi, ali su ipak njihove odredbe vrijedile za sve graničare bez obzira na vjersku pripadnost.} https://hrcak.srce.hr/index.php?show=clanak&id_clanak_jezik=325892 #page=29
  2. ^ Karl Kaser, 1997, Slobodan seljak i vojnik: Rana krajiška društva, 1545-1754 https://books.google.hr/books?id=eqR0PgAACAAJ&dq=bibliogroup:%22Slobodan+seljak+i+vojnik:+povoja%C4%8Denje+agrarnog+dru%C5%A1tva+u+Hrvatsko-slavonskoj+Vojnoj+krajini,+1535-1881%22&hl=hr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi8t6aZv-fmAhUBp4sKHY2hCxMQ6AEIKzAB {u jednom vlaškom porezovniku iz 1581 sadrži ne samo dražbine vlaha već svih kršćanskih podložnika, ukupno je kršćansko podložništvo svejedno je li riječ o domaćem kmetu ili doseljnom vlahu, o katoliku ili pravoslavnom bilo označeno nazivom vlasi (Christian subjugation..(in tax book from 1581) whether it was a native peasant or settled Vlach, Catholic or an Orthodox, was marked as Vlachs) #page=94
  3. ^ Ladislav Heka, 2019, The Vlach law and its comparison to the privileges of Hungarian brigands, https://hrcak.srce.hr/index.php?show=clanak&id_clanak_jezik=325892 #page=28
  4. ^ Karl Kaser, 1997, Slobodan seljak i vojnik: Rana krajiška društva, 1545-1754 https://books.google.hr/books?id=eqR0PgAACAAJ&dq=bibliogroup:%22Slobodan+seljak+i+vojnik:+povoja%C4%8Denje+agrarnog+dru%C5%A1tva+u+Hrvatsko-slavonskoj+Vojnoj+krajini,+1535-1881%22&hl=hr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi8t6aZv-fmAhUBp4sKHY2hCxMQ6AEIKzAB {Fugitives are in the sources without exception are called Vlachs, they are very rarely called as Uskoks, Pribjezi, Predavci} #page=91
  5. ^ Ladislav Heka, 2019, The Vlach law and its comparison to the privileges of Hungarian brigands, https://hrcak.srce.hr/index.php?show=clanak&id_clanak_jezik=325892 #page=28
  6. ^ Karl Kaser, 1997, Slobodan seljak i vojnik: Rana krajiška društva, 1545-1754 https://books.google.hr/books?id=eqR0PgAACAAJ&dq=bibliogroup:%22Slobodan+seljak+i+vojnik:+povoja%C4%8Denje+agrarnog+dru%C5%A1tva+u+Hrvatsko-slavonskoj+Vojnoj+krajini,+1535-1881%22&hl=hr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi8t6aZv-fmAhUBp4sKHY2hCxMQ6AEIKzAB {Fugitives are in the sources without exception called as Vlachs, they are very rarely called as Uskoks, Pribjezi, Predavci} #page=91
  7. ^ Ladislav Heka, 2019, The Vlach law and its comparison to the privileges of Hungarian brigands,{Nadvojvoda Ferdinand je početkom 1597. izdao zaštitno pismo za slavonske Vlahe, kojim im je jamčio oslobađanje od svih podavanja, te im je obećao »uskočke sloboštine«(At the beginning of 1597, Archduke Ferdinand issued a letter of protection to the Vlachs of Slavonia, assuring them of their liberation from all submissions, and promised them the "Uskoks freedom"} https://hrcak.srce.hr/index.php?show=clanak&id_clanak_jezik=325892 #page=28
  8. ^ Karl Kaser, 1997, Slobodan seljak i vojnik: Rana krajiška društva, 1545-1754 https://books.google.hr/books?id=eqR0PgAACAAJ&dq=bibliogroup:%22Slobodan+seljak+i+vojnik:+povoja%C4%8Denje+agrarnog+dru%C5%A1tva+u+Hrvatsko-slavonskoj+Vojnoj+krajini,+1535-1881%22&hl=hr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi8t6aZv-fmAhUBp4sKHY2hCxMQ6AEIKzAB {Fugitives are in the sources without exception called as Vlachs, they are very rarely called as Uskoks, Pribjezi, Predavci} #page=91
  9. ^ Zlatko Kudelić,2007, MARČANSKA BISKUPIJA - Habsburgovci, pravoslavlje i crkvena unija,https://www.superknjizara.hr/?page=knjiga&id_knjiga=81739 #page=197
  10. ^ Dragutin Pavličević, 1984, Vojna krajina: povijesni pregled, historiografija, rasprave http://library.foi.hr/lib/knjiga.php?sqlx=31527&sqlid=31&B=31&H= #page=284
  11. ^ Branka Magaš, 2007, https://books.google.hr/books?id=OY5pAAAAMAAJ&q=Statuta+Valachorum+grenzers&dq=Statuta+Valachorum+grenzers&hl=hr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiR99CfxufmAhUjxqYKHdy-DSEQ6AEIMDAB #page=142
  12. ^ Ladislav Heka, 2019, The Vlach law and its comparison to the privileges of Hungarian brigands, https://hrcak.srce.hr/index.php?show=clanak&id_clanak_jezik=325892 #page=28
  13. ^ Karl Kaser, 1997, Slobodan seljak i vojnik: Rana krajiška društva, 1545-1754 https://books.google.hr/books?id=eqR0PgAACAAJ&dq=bibliogroup:%22Slobodan+seljak+i+vojnik:+povoja%C4%8Denje+agrarnog+dru%C5%A1tva+u+Hrvatsko-slavonskoj+Vojnoj+krajini,+1535-1881%22&hl=hr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi8t6aZv-fmAhUBp4sKHY2hCxMQ6AEIKzAB {early October 1597, 1100 of Vlachs are settled in Rovišće)#page=99,107
  14. ^ Zlatko Kudelić, 2007, Marčanska biskupija: Habsburgovci, pravoslavlje i crkvena unija u Hrvatsko-slavonskoj vojnoj krajini (1611. - 1755) https://books.google.hr/books?id=RtFAAQAAIAAJ&q=rovi%C5%A1%C4%87e+vlasi&dq=rovi%C5%A1%C4%87e+vlasi&hl=hr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjz__WlzOfmAhWitIsKHRQkBTQQ6AEIJjAA #page=197
  15. ^ Ladislav Heka, 2019, The Vlach law and its comparison to the privileges of Hungarian brigands, https://hrcak.srce.hr/index.php?show=clanak&id_clanak_jezik=325892 #page=29
  16. ^ Karl Kaser, 1997, Slobodan seljak i vojnik: Rana krajiška društva, 1545-1754 https://books.google.hr/books?id=eqR0PgAACAAJ&dq=bibliogroup:%22Slobodan+seljak+i+vojnik:+povoja%C4%8Denje+agrarnog+dru%C5%A1tva+u+Hrvatsko-slavonskoj+Vojnoj+krajini,+1535-1881%22&hl=hr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi8t6aZv-fmAhUBp4sKHY2hCxMQ6AEIKzAB {Fugitives are in the sources without exception called as Vlachs, they are very rarely called as Uskoks, Pribjezi, Predavci} #page=91, 99
  17. ^ Ladislav Heka, 2019, The Vlach law and its comparison to the privileges of Hungarian brigands, https://hrcak.srce.hr/index.php?show=clanak&id_clanak_jezik=325892 #page=30
  18. ^ Hrvoje Petrić, 2011, O preseljavanju ‘‘odbjeglih kmetova” u Varaždinski generalat. Prilog poznavanju rano novo vjekovnih migracija na dijelu prostora današnje sjeverozapadne Hrvatske {Croatian-Slavonic nobility persistently demanded that Military frontier authorities prevent the escape of serfs to the Military frontier area, the bishop of Zagreb, Franjo Ergelski, claimed in 1635 that almost half of the Catholics were among Orthodox Vlachs and that many of the serfs who fled among the Vlachs abandoned Catholic faith and converted to Orthodoxy.} https://hrcak.srce.hr/index.php?show=clanak&id_clanak_jezik=127154 #page=58,59
  19. ^ https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Kaser_(Historiker)
  20. ^ https://www.sulinet.hu/oroksegtar/data/magyarorszagi_nemzetisegek/horvatok/szeged/a_szegedi_dalmatak_bunyevacok_tortenete/pages/magyar/000_konyveszeti_adatok.htm
  21. ^ http://www.historiografija.hr/?p=15031
  22. ^ 2002, Slavonia, settlement history and origin of population, https://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirko_Markovi%C4%87_(kartograf) https://www.researchgate.net/publication/27188665_Slavonija_-_Povijest_naselja_i_podrijetlo_stanovnistva_Mirko_Markovic page 559-560
  23. ^ https://hrcak.srce.hr/index.php?show=clanak&id_clanak_jezik=284266
  24. ^ https://www.amazon.com/Balkan-Wars-Habsburg-Venetian-1499-1617-ebook/dp/B01HQUMVAS
  25. ^ https://hrcak.srce.hr/index.php?show=clanak&id_clanak_jezik=63179#page=115
  26. ^ https://books.google.hr/books/about/Freier_Bauer_und_Soldat.html?id=oRlrJQAACAAJ&redir_esc=y
  27. ^ Vjeran Kursar( Ph. D., University of Zagreb, Faculty of Humanities and Social Sciences, Department of History), 2013, Being an Ottoman Vlach: On Vlach Identity (Ies), Role and Status in Western Parts of the Ottoman Balkans (15th-18th Centuries) http://dergiler.ankara.edu.tr/dergiler/19/1919/20146.pdf #page=117
  28. ^ green area.. http://croatian-frontier.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Vojna_krajina_glavna-1024x582.jpg
  29. ^ Great Migrations of the Serbs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Migrations_of_the_Serbs
  30. ^ Marie-Janine Calic, 2019, THE GREAT CAULDRON History of Southeastern Europe, https://books.google.hr/books/about/The_Great_Cauldron.html?id=cHSPDwAAQBAJ&redir_esc=y #page=79

Ku asht Greça ?

Shok, you've asked in Memorandum of Greça where it is and I've answered your question here. I hope that it clears the way towards a better understanding of the geography of Cem and Malësia.Maleschreiber (talk) 17:44, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much Maleschreiber. If you ever need any help with editing Wikipedia, do not hesitate to tell me. Cheers :) Ktrimi991 (talk) 19:43, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you shok. Most stuff are manageable, but the editor is...somewhat lacking. There are some things about the guidelines that I don't understand completely and/or I don't know how to change. For example, the reason I made an account on wiki is because I wanted to write about Malësia and I've come across some very bad or rudimentary articles. I've worked a lot on Cem (river) but the rating of the article is "Stub-class" still. Who does the rating? And to whom do I talk to if I want to change that?Maleschreiber (talk) 13:12, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Maleschreiber I could not respond earlier due to being busy with real life stuff, though after reading your comment above a few days ago I placed a welcome template on your talk page where you can find potentially helpful links about editing Wikipedia. On content assessment, read the link below. You might request content assessments on the talk pages of relevant WikiProjects. I have never done assessments but of course there are other editors willing to do [31]. If you need more help, let me know. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 23:04, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Hope you get some rest.--Maleschreiber (talk) 23:06, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Përshëndetje, më falni për gabimin e rëndë që kam bërë, nuk do editohen më informacione nga unë pa qënë 100% të sakta. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SlayzeeOfficial (talkcontribs) 23:22, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Ktrimi I can ask you to create an English referendum on autonomy https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendumi_p%C3%ABr_autonomi_teritoriale_dhe_politike?wprov=sfti1

Vestacka Nacija (talk) 21:56, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Vestacka Nacija, rn I am mostly making small edits of the kind of talk page comments and reverting. That due to being busy with real life things. Most of my article creations nowadays are small articles on notable figures of the Alb Rilindja period. I might write a short article, or add to an existing article content dedicated to that referendum. But I can not promise anything with certainty due to the limited Wiki time I have. If you need sources, I can give you some. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 19:02, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Republic of Ilirida

Pershendetje trimi pse e largove info faqen 109.175.101.133 (talk) 18:22, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Why do not you create an account and join the Wiki community? You have been making edits for months. I can give you a welcome template with links to relevant Wiki guidelines and policies. Re Ilirida, it was a proposed country but not a formed country. It was (and to some degree, is) a concept and a proposal. Hence the Former Country infobox can not be used. Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:38, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Ktrimi!

The Albania Barnstar of National Merit
For all your contributions regarding Albanian articles over the past several years, please accept this humble barnstar. Keep up the impressive work!! N.Hoxha (talk) 21:40, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much N.Hoxha! I appreciate your kind words, and your great contributions to Wikipedia. It is good to see new editors bringing new forces. Whenever you need some advice, help or friendly discussion, the place to go to is this talk page :) Ktrimi991 (talk) 01:45, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

March Madness 2020

G'day all, March Madness 2020 is about to get underway, and there is bling aplenty for those who want to get stuck into the backlog by way of tagging, assessing, updating, adding or improving resources and creating articles. If you haven't already signed up to participate, why not? The more the merrier! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:19, 29 February 2020 (UTC) for the coord team[reply]

Vandalism

User Александр Ашкаров keeps making the same vandalizing edits on the Genocide of Serbs page. Three times now. Can the page be protected or the person blocked? They are vandalizing other wiki pages too it seems. They seem to be engaged in historical whitewashing. 74.101.190.2 (talk) 16:19, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed their removal of sourced content yesterday. I will file a report if they persist. I hope that will not be needed though. Ktrimi991 (talk) 16:43, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. They have done it on three different days so far. And either me or Tuvixer have to step in as another editor seems to be fine with the removal.74.101.190.2 (talk) 17:12, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Beteja e kosovës

Përshëndetje i nderuar, Unë pasi tentova që ta shtojë një informatë shtesë rreth historisë së "betejës së kosovës", nuk ishte e mundur dhe u anulua.

Shiko këtë video :

"Gënjeshtra shekullore e serbëve" (Video nga Marin Mema)

Në këtë video bëhet fjalë për vitet e betejës së kosovës dhe gënjeshtrën serbe ndaj historisë. Gazetari Marin Mema, duke u bazuar në librat osmane, shqiptare dhe ato kroate, tregon një histori mbresëlënëse dhe që të bën të mendosh gjatë. Unë pashë që ti ke akses në atë faqe dhe ti vëlla mund ta verifikosh edhe vetë këtë histori. E vërteta duhet treguar. Kreshnik Prizreni (talk) 10:42, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. We should only use English in our discussions due to the rules. Can you tell me the name of the article in English? Is that one: Battle of Kosovo? Ktrimi991 (talk) 10:56, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, yes it is about Battle of Kosovo and is not an article. It is a video of an Albanian journalist who tells the real story from old ottoman and croatian books. Kreshnik Prizreni (talk) 20:58, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I will check the Battle of Kosovo soon. Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:07, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Great Migration of the Serbs

Hi, could you review my lates edit to the article? Im not sure if the source is stating that the Serbs fleeing Krajina itself is compared to migration or just the photo. Or if this should even be in the article at all? Thank you. MaloPoMalo (talk) 17:08, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I will soon check it. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:23, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Who doesn't like Baklava?!

You deserved this! good luck! Sethrogenfan101 (talk) 18:23, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Second opinion

We have one article Bookocide in Croatia based on sources from portals and these sources are mostly political pamphlets. In it events from 1990 compare with events from 1941-45 and Nazi NDH. I'm interested in your view. I have read a lot of articles but I have not read an article like this. We have one comment here.[32] Thanks. Mikola22 (talk) 05:35, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello

Oy Thank you for the advice mate! If possible, I wanted to write some of them and post them on the Albanian wikipedia. It turns out that one is very much underworked on, and so I want to contribute there. How can I get ahold of his articles? Or am I barred by any rule i dont know of or smthn like that? How shall I proceed? Cheers Atlonche (talk) 20:52, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again @Atlonche: it depends on whether the article got deleted or not. For Fa alk's articles that did not get deleted, you can easily translate them in Albanian and post on sqwiki. For the articles that got deleted, you can ask an admin, whoever you feel better to ask, to give you the sources Fa alk used. If you get the sources, you need to write the article from scratch and post it on enwiki or sqwiki. Sqwiki badly needs work and more editors to do that, so one of the good options would be for you to start by translating Fa alk's articles that "survived", since translating usually is easier to do than writing from scratch is, and the articles that got deleted had less notable topics. If you need more help, do not hesitate to ask me. We can also discuss on your talk page on sqwiki, where I will place a welcome template. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:50, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Sounds good to me! I dont know how free ill be this week, but im thinking about translating a lot of articles actually, not only for albania related topics but other general stuff as well. Also, can I translate articles for all subjects on wiki? Do I need permission from those article creators if i translate their work or will a reference to the Original source be sufficient? Cuz if thats the case then bloody hell I sure am up for it! I appreciate your willingness to give me adivce, and I hope I can help the cause! Cheers mate have a good one! Atlonche (talk) 22:03, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome. Wiki is a collective work in progress, so editors should help each other. You can translate any article you want, without asking for permission etc. Just do the translation. Ktrimi991 (talk) 22:07, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just one thing what are the rules like in sqwiki? If say i get blocked (if there are blocks idk) will my articles get deleted or merged? And one ladt thing, can a user for example like faalk be blocked in enwiki but unblocked on sqwiki? Because if he wants to edit those himself possibly i dont wanna take the mans hands of the wheel so to say. In the meanwhile i hope i cam get my laptop fixed so i can get to work. Flm vllavi and have a good one. Atlonche (talk) 22:21, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, there is no reason why you should be blocked. Even if one gets blocked, articles are only deleted if the account was a sock (WP:SOCK). Fa alk can edit sqwiki, but I do not see any reason to believe that he plans to post there. Ktrimi991 (talk) 22:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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^ not gonna lie that was a funny way of joining a convo. Well anyways yall have fun resolving that. Best wishes @Ktrimi991 thanks again Atlonche (talk) 22:59, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is his habit to do such things. He keeps doing so although he got sanctioned several times. Best wishes to you too, and feel free to ask for help whenever you need that. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 23:08, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Oy there

Hey mate its me again. Hope all is well. I want to rename my account on this wiki, and then switch over to sq. How do I do that exactly? Thanks in advance Atlonche (talk) 22:03, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:Rename. Ktrimi991 (talk) 19:25, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Flm vlla im on it Atlonche (talk) 20:23, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Don't give fake warnings

You have four reverts at Lukove in the last few days, so if anyone deserves a warning, it's you. I really wouldn't revert again if I were you. Khirurg (talk) 16:01, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Khirurg: I have not breached any rule, nor do I breach if I make another rv. Anyways, other editors have opposed the addition, so I am waiting to see what they will do. I plan to add a Name section, and the Slavic origin of the name and the historical presence of Slavic elements there is well-discussed in scholarship. And do not call me "bully". If I were "bully", the consequences for both you and Sulmues would have been dire. Instead of conflicts, better focus on things that matter. Ktrimi991 (talk) 16:11, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You make threats even as you deny that you are a bully. "Consequences"??? Care to elaborate? Let's hear it. Be aware though that ArbCom has been notified (by email) about your past behavior and are watching. Khirurg (talk) 16:20, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If I wanted to discuss that with you, I would have done that long ago. But yes, if ArbCom is willing to contact and discuss things with me, why not? After all, it was me who got involved in that conflict without my permission. And both of you and Sulmues produced enough evidence. Ktrimi991 (talk) 16:31, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ahahahaha, "evidence". You have left a lot of evidence too, Ktrimi. Many people know exactly what you are. So no more threats from now on, ok? Now how about you go ahead and create that name section at Lukove instead of just talking about it, so we can be done with this whole thing. Khirurg (talk) 16:44, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm, no. Do not take this as a threat. I am a peaceful person. I am telling you to not call me "bully" with no good reason. The big reason why I did not report immediately is that the admins seem to not be willing to get involved in such things immediately, and the process seems to take a long time. In my early days I tried to get admin attention to someone who openly made threats on my talk page, but the lack of immediate attention by admins was disappointing. If you really notified ArbCom, hopefully they will be willing to see the evidence and take action. (Redacted) Both of you and Sulmues best stay away from conflicts with each other. There are better things you can do. And do not call me "bully" again. Indeed, I have proven that I am the opposite. Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:30, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I have no idea what you're talking about, but we both know that if you had anything, anything, you would have ran to the admins as fast as you could type. And as far leaving threats on userpages, that's your specialty. You had best not even think about that anymore, because things have changed now. I know you know what I'm talking about. Now how about you do something productive for a change, and go create that "Name" section at Lukove you've been talking about. Khirurg (talk) 19:18, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No worries Khirurg, you do not need to accept anything. The evidence was a bit difficult to gather, but now I am waiting for ArbCom to contact to me. You notified them, did not you? I have done nothing bad. Even I had done what you accuse me of, I would get a temporary topic ban that could be easily undone after a few weeks or months. On the other hand, you could get a permanent ban. Unlike you two, I do not make threats of the kind of "I will tell your wife" or "I will tell your colleagues". In your threats two very serious and respectable instituions were mentioned to make threats. I respect people and institutions, so do not get me again involved in your childish conflicts with the other person or call me "bully". Bye. Ktrimi991 (talk) 19:54, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Best to read up on some relevant literature. Implications of being able to out are just as bad as the deed if they're specific enough. Primefac (talk) 01:31, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you again for your modification @Primefac:. Hopefully I will not be again involved in anything that I am not interested in without my permission, especially off-Wiki stuff such as conflicts. Tense situations arise, and one can write more than intended. You did good with the deletion. Ktrimi991 (talk) 23:15, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Stop hounding me, like you did here [33] Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 15:17, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see you keep accusing other editors of "hounding", while others have actually accused you of doing that. If you see any "hounding", take it to AE. Wait, admins warned you to not weaponize that place. Then, take it to ANI/I. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 15:20, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Haha; not that good of a spin, you can do better. I might do it at some point, as there is enough material, and I see that's not the only concern other editors had recently, based on this very TP. Enough from me about this instance of clear hounding, which was not denied. Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 18:52, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Based on your long history of accusing other editors of "hounding", I very much doubt you want to make a report. I would like the opposite to be the case though, as accusations without present evidence are not a "spin". Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:57, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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myth of skanderbeg ??

What myth are you talking about skanderbeg? He is an historical figure. [1] I saw some of your sources which did not even mention the word Skanderbeg and yet you are using them as sources.

Please show me what is so "mythical" about skanderbeg? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pasuria (talkcontribs) 21:23, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Pasuria: they are not my sources. It was not me who added them there. The article had several issues, and I tried some time ago and made some content addition on the Arbereshe folk traditions, the myth's natural origin etc. The topic of the Myth of Skanderbeg is covered by academic sources, that in Wikipedia's standards, based on WP:RS, are reliable and useable. Hence I reverted you. If you see issues with particular sources, explain your concerns on the article's talk page, and more editors will be able to give their input and participate in the discussion. Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:51, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi @Elserbio00: I have wondered for years what the most appropriate definition of the League of Lezha is. Most of the RS describe it as an Albanian alliance (eg [34][35][36][37]), and the article says also that the members proclaimed Skanderbeg to be "Chief of the League of the Albanian people". Whether they were all Albanians or not is sth that can be easily disputed actually, as at least the Crnojevici family was Serb (on the other hand, Stefan Crnojević' mother was Albanian). The Balsic family is controversial topic, as they have been described as Serb, Albanian, "sth between", "sth different", French or Vlach. People in the Balkans at the time were more friendly to other ethnicities, and Serbs and Albanians mixed with each other and collaborated more than they do nowadays; they better understood that before being X or Y ethnicity we are all human beings. In any case, in such cases the common practice is to keep in the lede only the name in the language of the "dominant" or "core" people. Serbian Despotate and Principality of Zeta had Albanian and other minorities but the only relevant name in the lede is the Serbian one. On the other hand, that is OK since there was no "dominant" people. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 15:15, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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