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Shovelling

Thank you for shovelling out the kitty-litter. (I wonder if it might be somehow related to this.) -- Hoary 03:38, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Preemptive apologies for embarassing topic ...

but I need your help. There's a discussion about, well, Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_July_29#Category:Men_with_unusually_large_penis I'm trying to give an example who isn't a modern pornographic actor, and vaguely remember someone, hopefully you, probably chatting with Bishonen, referring to an article about an early twentieth century society man ... ladies man ... gigolo ... known for such unusual dimensions. Do you remember the reference? --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 14:46, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pardon me for butting [just my butt, not the other thing] in: If you were to replace "known" with "rumored", then how about Dillinger? (Love that discussion, by the way: WP earnestness at its most hilarious.) -- Hoary 14:58, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It could be worse, no one has yet referred to WP:DICK... oh nuts. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 15:06, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh wonderful. Now you've cocked everything up. Well, I suppose it doesn't make a vas deferens anyway... HalfShadow 17:57, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Funnily enough Anon I don't go about peeking at other mens' penis. No I don't remember any such conversation with Bishonen, ask her perhaps she is interested in such monstrosities. Personally I have always hated ostentation in any form - and especially those men that seem to feel the need to wander about locker rooms for ages towelling their backs for an unnecessary amount of time making the rest of us feel the need to change quickly squeezed into a corner. No help here sorry. Giano 18:17, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I note it is missing Errol Flynn who apparently used his to play the piano as a party trick... Gustav von Humpelschmumpel 09:03, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Any particular tune? Giano 19:35, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I imagine Frere Jacques was about the limits of it. Chopsticks would surely be a step too far. Gustav von Humpelschmumpel 14:27, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To answer AnonEmouse's question, Milton Berle was reknowned for having a large penis. Supposedly, at the gentlemen's club, people would challenge him to contests, and he'd win ever time. Raul654 19:47, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PS - the article spends 2 paragraphs talking about it. Raul654 19:48, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for sharing that fascinating piece of intelligence with us Raul. Giano 19:54, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Porfirio Rubirosa is the early twentieth century society man ... ladies man ... gigolo being looked for. He is included in Category:French road accident victims, certainly the first place I would look for him...--Wetman 22:44, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes!!! Thank you. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 13:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fie

"Probably chatting with"... who?? I note that not one of you "courageous" gentlemen has had the temerity to broach this so-called subject on the lovely little Mrs Bishonen's own page. At least I assume you haven't, since none of you mention missing any of what my dear departed husband used to refer to as your "vital bits". I don't doubt that she would have relieved you of them if you'd brought your indecencies to her chaste page. A woman of action! Catherine de Bourgh (Lady) 14:21, 2 August 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Could we now please close this subject, it is a very well known medical fact that at moments of great exitement we are all (well perhaps not you Lady C) the same size.^{[citation needed]} Which renders the whole catgory pointless. Giano 14:44, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Such well known medical facts JC do not require citing. Additionally many people derive great comfort from such knowledge. I am very well versed on medical matters and strongly resent being asked to cite such obvious facts. Giano 15:47, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lady, you are probably not aware of the fact that the last time I mentioned something completely unrelated to this on the lovely Ms. Bishonen's talk page, she ... well ... I can't even say it, and can only link to what she wrote. Just imagine what she would write if I wrote this! I shudder to contemplate. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 15:59, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh! What a tender, captivating document! I feel quite disordered — quite bouleversée — at discovering such depths of selfless love and maternal affection... That is the most modest and touching confession I've seen outside of the works of Mr Bulwer-Lytton! Mrs Bishonen is clearly even more exceptional than I thought her. But you... You callously wave such a monument to tact and discretion in the air for all to see! You "link" to it... and from this unspeakable discussion. You're a cad, sir. A squanderer of a good woman's love. Have you no... oh, well, obviously not. I have no more to say to you ! Catherine de Bourgh (Lady) 17:41, 2 August 2007 (UTC).[reply]

What are you a man or a.....oh.... --Joopercoopers 16:33, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Cisternone of Livorno

Giano, I've never heard of this brilliantly realized neoclassical dream, the Cisternone di Livorno or heard of Pasquale Poccianti, its architect, until I saw this somewhat bitter image Image:Caos davanti al Cisternone di Livorno.JPG. A translation for Wikipedia? --Wetman 03:31, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nice photo and article, I think though we can do better! Just as soon as I return to the real world, and have time for more than five consecutive moments on wikipedia. Giano 06:30, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What an object: like an architectural section realised. Étienne-Louis Boullée's cenotaph to Newton and Claude Nicolas Ledoux's Hôtel de Mlle Guimard both swim into view... Then there's that modern juxtaposition of caos in the photo. Very interesting stuff. --Wetman 10:36, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Restarted FAC

Debate has been restarted at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Chicago Board of Trade Building and your voice has not been heard.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 06:14, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have made my comments and opinions perfectly clear once already. I have no idea why the FAC has to had to be restarted but I my earlier comments still stand. Giano 11:51, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was a really odd re-start - apparently Tony and Sandy are more equal than others - In the interests of encouraging the author would you perhaps be prepared to support again? --Joopercoopers 12:28, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I support the article 100% as I made very clear. As far as I could see the greater majority were keen to promote and the consensus of opinion was to promote. I do not intend to play games for the benefit of those that don't like consensus. If pages can only be promoted to FA status with the consent of Sandy then Raul may as well retire and give her sole rights to promote as she sees fit, and those of us who write the odd page could then apply to her and her friends rather than seek the community's opinion. At present my opinion is as good as Sandy's and Tony's - I have given my views on the page once I shall not do so again. I am certainly not playing silly buggers everytime Sandy and co do not like a view on a FAC. Giano 19:53, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Query

Hey. Are you fluent in Sicilian? El_C 22:08, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He doesn't know a word of it! Not a word! Bishonen | talk 23:14, 5 August 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Outraged in Palermo? El_C 23:16, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, not that Palermo. All will become clear via e-mail. Bishonen | talk 23:41, 5 August 2007 (UTC).[reply]

I need some help with this user, is why I'm asking. El_C 23:48, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The only Sicilianu I know is "meeheeeeheeh" Giano 21:45, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Villa Pisani (Montagnana)

I was cruising through recently uploaded images—have you looked at the |excellent WikiCommons images of Palladian villas by H.A.R.?— and a good one looked as if it would be filed forever, like the Ark of the Covenant at the end of Indiana Jones. Thus the article. It could use some knowledgable vetting and tweaking. --Wetman 21:13, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wetman, for me that link does not work; at the moment I am far from home and cannot really edit properly - I just check in and see what is going on - you know more about all these architectural matters than any of us...so......! Giano 21:33, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No I don't Giano, not more than you. Besides, I shuck my pease directly into Wikipedia: my brain is nought but a shelled peapod. Fixed the link: inspiring illustrations? are you rusticating (non-architectural)?--Wetman 01:49, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wetman, yes we are rusticating and Augusting - playing goatherds and goatherdesses with Mrs Giano and all the little Gianos who are all in training to join me on Wikipedia - all formed in the same mould we shall be a formidable team. I'm sure your brain is far from an "empty peapod" - remember the famous proverb "He who casts the empty peapod to the north wind composts on the south wind" - these old sayings are so true and should not be lightly cast aside. Giano 21:39, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Brilliant on the Big Basin! That image said Gianogianogiano to me, breaking into your villeggiatura. New York this August has clusters of days like a Canadian summer: so little traffic that my Avenue at night is like a country road: by 3 a.m. a sweet breeze smelling faintly of greenness and salt river and mown lawn blows in: What wond'rous Life in this I lead. I've tweaked in my usual way: do be selective about what you retain. More at my User talk:Wetman. --Wetman 00:14, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was just following your advice and looking at this [2] - Oh what enviable holdidays one can have when one is not accompanied by a platoon of litle voices saying "do they sell ice-creams"; "I need the loo" and "can we go the beach now" - perhaps one day a more sophisticated form of holiday will return for me too! Giano 06:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vkhutemas

Thanks for your support. --Joopercoopers 10:55, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Always happy to suppport your pages JC. Giano 12:06, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not mine at all - a friend (D.Recorder) wrote it, posted it to FAC where it sat unloved for a while - he then went on holiday and asked me to keep an eye on it. It's been very quiet really and I was worried it might fail for lack of interest. Nice to see you back. --Joopercoopers 12:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I see, well it looks as good as one of yours, I never checj histories - that is just how inbiased I am! I'm not back just yet, just having a couple of hours wroting up something that has been on my mind for a while. Giano 12:16, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I see Wetman's piqued your interest - one of the wierdest buildings I've ever seen. Is there any explanation for the half dome? I was wondering if the resultant plan semi-circle might provide secure top lighting to the interior of a building which presumably was rarely occupied, but it's impossible to see from the photo. --Joopercoopers 12:33, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To be quite frank - I know as little as anyone else about the building, I have just translated the original Italian and am now trying to research further and find out a little more - of course coming from a country where one has so much of the "real thing" these pastiches arowse little interest that they do elsewhere <said with no modesty whatsoever>. Giano 12:38, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Italian

In an effort to improve my (woefull) Italian, and as a spin off from Parchin kari (Moghul Pietre dure) I'm trying to translate the Opificio delle pietre dure from the it.wiki. In the phrase "Si realizzarono così opere d'arte di straordinario valore, dai mobili a oggetti vari, fino a copie perfette di pitture da appendere, che oggi arrichiscono i musei di tutto il mondo testimoniando la genialità e la tecnica degli artigiani fiorentini" - how would you translate "dai mobili a oggetti vari"? from funiture to all sorts of objects? I'm also stuck on "arrichiscono" is it something like "consensus" - "Today all the museums of the world attest to the genius and skill of the Florentine craftsmen."? --Joopercoopers 12:58, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No! - "Today enriching the museums of the world with the skills and genius of the Florentine artisans." is how I would phrase it. It is a spelling mistake for "arricchiscono" a conjugation of the verb "arricchire" meaning to enrich. Translating is easy if you just write out the literal meanings and then rewrite the whole thing in your own words but keeping the general meaning - as often a tense or verb used in Italian sounds completely wromg when literally translated.

"mobili a oggetti vari" means "furniture and multiple other pieces" you could substitute "various other objects d'art" - but objects d'art is a little naff and sounds like a doily or serviette. "varying other objects" does not sound quite right. I hate doing translations because to make the meaning sound correct in another language one often has to slightly alter the literal meaning. Hope that helps. Giano 14:55, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He's pulling your leg, Joops, pay no attention. I'm a professional translator. The phrase really means "the cellphone of various eggs." (Those are enriched eggs.) Bishonen | talk 13:08, 17 August 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Maybe? but as you say in Sweden "Scandabrod ag oggi sodastream und klaky klogy"! Giano 13:33, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you haven't lived till you've tried some klaky klogy, young man! Bishonen | talk 13:45, 17 August 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Excellent. Thanks Giano. Italian wikipedia clearly benefits from no NPOV policy! --Joopercoopers 15:12, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sarcasm JC is the lowest form of wit! I'm often surprised at the modesty of a great nation that supplied the world with its culture and refinement. Giano 21:06, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I know. I had the rather odd experience of being shown around Pompeii and Herculaneum by an actor who happened to be playing Benito Mussolini in a play in Sorento. He'd also spent some time in Cornwall and was rather fond of saying "come one! choppy choppy". Pointing out the scandalous neglect of the 20 year old earthquake damage at Herculaneum he insisted that "since we built your roads, when you go back to the UK - please write to your MEPs and implore them to fix the damage." It was hard to refuse him. --Joopercoopers 12:54, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I always feel the British have always been an ungrateful race, one arrives at considerable personal inconvenience, gives them law and order, good roads not to mention baths and personal hygiene, endures their God forsaken climate, not to mention building a wall to keep the Scottish out, which if they had not been to idle to maintain would have prevented many of their problems, and what grattitude does one get? None. Giano 13:02, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Antonio Bagioli

Thanks for your help with this, couldn't have done it without you. Took me long enough though! ++Lar: t/c 13:53, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Very nice indeed, I see you have even had a "do you know" on it, always nice when someone nominates a shiny new page for one of those. Well done. Giano 14:56, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image Formats

Hi Giano, I have just come across some of the images you have uploaded (specifically the ones in the Belton House Article and have noticed you have saved them in the GIF format. The only problem with GIF is that
1) They have larger file sizes than PNG or JPGs
2) They can only handle 255 colours, which means they have to be indexed, often making photos speckley
Therefore, I would ask next time you photograph something, save it in the JPG format, so no quality is loss. As for the existing GIF's, I am going to try and get rid of the speckles and save them as JPG's. > Rugby471 ^talk ⚔ 07:05, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The fotos in the article do not look at all speckly, they look fine. I do not known how to alter my camera or computer to comply with your request; anyhow they do the job required, I did not upload them to be computer wall paper screen savers. Giano 07:11, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Whoah, I'm not make a personal attack here, i'm just stating a fact. Maybe they don't look speckly in the article at very low resolutions of about 200px, but go to the image description page and click on the image (to view the image standalone) and does that look normal to you ? > Rugby471 ^talk ⚔ 16:33, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I did not upload it stand alone but to perform the task which they do perfectly well. If you want to fiddle about with them fine but I'm not greatly interested in anything but the article. Giano 16:36, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well all I can say is I hope I don't come across you again in the 'pedia > Rugby471 ^talk ⚔ —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 07:23, August 21, 2007 (UTC).

Fine, you just fiddle about but don't bore me with the details. I am about as interested in the composition of an image as I am the workings of a vacuum cleaner. Giano 08:09, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Poison

I was referring to myself in that comment, that I admired your nerve, but that my opinion would not count for much. This comment was made earlier by Rockpocket, [3] and I asked him who was being referred to. Since I supported VK, for what I believed to be an unjustified block, I’m assuming Rockpocket, was referring to me. I thought you would have read it already and know what I was referring to. Your right though about the languge, it is a bit strong! --Domer48 18:18, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Repleid on your page. Giano 18:20, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ping

... you have mail - Alison ☺ 19:57, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not as far I can see I don't! Giano 20:39, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you've two now :) - Alison ☺ 20:43, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

likewise! Giano 20:48, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vk's confusion

You seem to think Vk isn't aware of why he was blocked. That is one interpretation. The other is that he is very aware, but he knows to publically prove it Alison would have to release personal information about another editor. So, he would rather plead innocence and take advantage of the conspiracy theories that others are so keen to culture.

You should also be aware that Vk has a history of denying all wrong doing, even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. But then again, you didn't seem to have a problem with his actions detailed at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Vintagekits either. Maybe you were also swayed by his claims of innocence then, and how he can prove it. Perhaps you were not aware, though, that Vk failed to provide the smoking gun that "can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that these people are neither my sock or meatpuppets". After all that grandstanding and self-rightousness, he never provided any proof, despite multiple requests and an assurance he would be unblocked and offered an apology when he did so. Why? Because he didn't have any, of course.

So, if you wish to buy into his games then more fool you. I can assure you, I have interacted with Vk for long enough to have heard this line before. Rockpocket 23:05, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think so many are playing with so many socks at the same time there, there everyone's feet are becoming very smelly indeed and it all needs to be properly investigated. Nothing more, nothing less. Some of those caught up in this have been quite happy to hint at and give their real names and details. Others have behaved in extraordinary if not bizarre ways - I look forward to seeing exactlt what has been going on there. Giano 06:53, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you there. Vk is by no means the sole agitator here. However, without meaning any disrespect to him, he was the one foolish enough to get caught first. Rockpocket 07:03, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly I am only me, but I do not need to be a "competent attorny" to known that he who gets caughts first does not absolve the sins of the others. I am going to watch this with interest. I may even open a book on who is who. Giano 07:09, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'd love a first edition of that book. And yes, I agree with you both - nobody is squeaky-clean in this case, which is why the gleeful rubbing of hands from the sidelines is so galling right now - Alison ☺ 09:13, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned non-free media (Image:NT Belton book.gif)

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I don't want it, you have permission to delete. Thank you for your interest. Giano 07:11, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

BTW Giano, you realise you've just replied to a Bot (ie. a computer, something that can't have a conversation with you > Rugby471 ^talk ⚔ —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 07:25, August 21, 2007 (UTC).

I always reply to Bots they like it, allthough if I'm in a bad mood I just make them go awry and stop. Giano 08:07, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Villa del Poggio Imperiale and Cisternoni of Livorno

I hope you don't mind, but I have nominated both of your excellent articles for WP:DYK. They may appear on the Main Page in the next few days, exposing them the wider audience that they so clearly deserve. -- !! ?? 19:07, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I do mind! Do you imagine I want the great unwashed pawing all over these pages, vandalising and announcing which of their incontinent friends "enjoy their own company" on a frequent basis?. If I want to converse with moronic kids I have bred my own, I have only to leave my study walk down the stairs and receive "uuuuhhhgrunt" as a greeting. I do not need to associate with them here. I remember clearly the last time I met a editor as keen as you! Giano 19:27, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For goodness sake don't say the great unwashed, it's considerably more distasteful than uuuuhhhgrunt. Are you positively trying to sound like a retired colonel of the British Raj in a novel by William Makepeace Thackeray? Bishonen | talk 19:37, 21 August 2007 (UTC).[reply]

The Cisternoni

Is there any reason the sections at the end are called "References" and "Bibliography," instead of the usual "Notes" and "References"? Can I change the section names, and also put all the books with full publishing information into the new "References" section? Or, on second thoughts, maybe you should do the references section yourself. You know how to use that horrible thrice-detested cite template, and I don't. Bishonen | talk 19:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC).[reply]

No you may not! The Biblio are the books in the Italian version and refer to the bits I translated, the refs are the books I used to verify what I added. One has to be very particular. Giano 19:22, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You do realize this means there's no section called "Notes" at all? Even though there are in fact notes in the text? Unusual. Bishonen | talk 19:23, 21 August 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Oh I leave it you - sort it for me sweatheart would you. You are so good at that sort of thing. Love Giano 19:29, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why not ask that sweet little Sandy peson, shw knows all about these things - me I just write. Giano 19:30, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Uuuuhhhgrunt. Bishonen | talk 19:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC).[reply]

It might be more helpful sweatheart if you turned your email on! Giano 19:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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+:::::::::It might be more helpful sweatheart if you turned your email on! [[User:Giano II|Giano]] 19:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC)