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:I do not have checkuser tools. But I will look into it. [[User:Kingturtle|Kingturtle]] ([[User talk:Kingturtle#top|talk]]) 12:48, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
:I do not have checkuser tools. But I will look into it. [[User:Kingturtle|Kingturtle]] ([[User talk:Kingturtle#top|talk]]) 12:48, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

== January 2009 ==
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Talk archives

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~29 Sep '03 - ~Mar 6, '04
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Please note: Most of my replies will be written on this talk page, rather than on your talk page.
Also note: It is my policy not to delete or remove dialog from this page. Everything (except some spam) will be saved and archived. Please don't later remove from here what you've written (although, if you do, I will respect your wishes and not restore removed comments.)
If I do not reply to you immediately, it is not because I am ignoring you; I might be in the middle of a project on or offline :)
If you are interested in being nominated to become an Administrator, email me. I am happy to discuss the prospects with you, and I may be happy to nominate you myself.
Lastly, a note to banned users who stop by: Stop editing immediately, serve your sentence, and then come back and play nice. I will gladly welcome you back and collaborate with you - once you've served your time properly, and as long as you act accordingly.

Article deletion for blatant copyright infringement - Carbon Grid

Hi,

I'm a newbie and I've had my article deleted for copyright infringement.

I don't understand what I could have infringed, since I wrote the text myself. Could you let me know what the problems are and consider reinstating the page?

Thanks abAndrew10266ab —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrew10266 (talkcontribs) 13:20, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re-registering abandoned username

Hi Kingturtle - first, thank you for processing my username change request. That change, and the removal of some personal information from WP (in the wake of on-wiki harassment), brought me enhanced peace of mind. I just noticed this text....:

  • Once you have been renamed, your old account will no longer exist and may potentially be recreated by a third party. This is true even if your old account pages have been redirected towards your new account. To guard against impersonation, you may wish to recreate the old account yourself.

...and would like to recreate my old account (just to park it and prevent impersonation), but I'm getting stopped by script that says my old username is too similar to one that had all of three edits in 2004. Is it possible to override this? thanks very much, Backin72 (n.b.) 09:10, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Create a new account of any acceptable name, then notify me here of that account name, and then I can rename that new account to User:Jim Butler. Kingturtle (talk) 15:27, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Fantastic, thanks. The account is User:Eaten90210bagel. You rule in the New Year, Backin72 (n.b.) 09:57, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Kingturtle (talk) 13:50, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Kingturtle! Please excuse my inexperience with Wikipedia talk pages, but I didn't see any other way of contacting you. Back in 2004, with some encouragement from you, I granted full use of the images at my website, http://worldcoingallery.com for Wikipedia. Here is the reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kingturtle/World_Coin_Gallery

And here is the list of images being displayed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:World_Coin_Gallery_images

For a long time, there were more and more external links to my website from Wiki articles relating to world coins. For example, most articles on circulating currencies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_circulating_currencies

I now have a very comprehensive display of circulating currencies at my website at: http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/circ_sets/index.htm and would be happy to share those images with Wikipedia.

But now it seems all the External Links to my site have been removed. It seems to have happened sometime this past summer, and visits to my website dropped by about 1000 visits per day.

Since anyone can edit Wikipedia articles, I wonder if the owner of another coin site removed my links. I enjoy Wikipedia immensely and would like to contribute more coin photos, but wonder if my credits and external links will continue to be removed. Can you offer any advice? Can I add back external links to my site myself? Thanks and best wishes, Don Donnorris (talk) 02:51, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Don, so nice to hear from you again. Unfortunately, my advice will not be what you want to hear. It is one thing to allow Wikipedia to use your images, it is another thing to use Wikipedia as a way to direct traffic to your site. Adding external links to an article or user page for the purpose of promoting a website or a product is not allowed, and is considered to be spam. Although the specific links may be allowed under some circumstances, repeatedly adding links will in most cases result in all of them being removed. It is likely that an editor will interpret your edits as spam and revert them.
I suppose the first thing to do is to track down who removed the links and find out why. I've done a little searching, but haven't found any. If you click on the Page history button of an article you can look at older versions. If you can find some examples, please let me know. We can try to get to the bottom of when and why the links were removed. Sincerely, Kingturtle (talk) 03:57, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Case change in my username

I got the case wrong in my user name (Royleban) and it says you fixed it (to RoyLeban), but it doesn't appear to be fixed. Problem? Cache issue? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Royleban (talkcontribs) 07:55, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Be sure you are logging into User:RoyLeban. As you can see here, the original edits of Royleban are now attached to RoyLeban. Kingturtle (talk) 13:58, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting, when I log in as "RoyLeban", I see that name and I see the edits, but if I try to login as "royleban", Wikipedia corrects it to Royleban, not RoyLeban, and allows me to login (this happened because Firefox autofilled the field for me as "royleban"). And there are two sets of edit records for RoyLeban and Royleban. RoyLeban and Royleban
So, it looks to me like (a) Wikipedia has a bug where those edit records have not been merged, and (b) Wikipedia has a bug where it lets people log in with the wrong case for a name under some situations. Or are there two user accounts, Royleban and RoyLeban? Or is there a cache issue?
Of course, this sidesteps the issue of case sensitivity being a poor design for user names [about the only thing that Visual Basic got right and other languages got wrong, but that's a discussion for another time :-] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Royleban (talkcontribs) 20:16, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Image

I put images of new people in the Pashtun section. If you find it not important you may revert back and undo. (Dewan S. Ahsan 17:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC))

Hello Kingturtle. I notice you've edited some of the articles that are under discussion in this report, and you also opened the last RFCU on Tajik. Two IPs are proposed in this report to be socks of Anoshirawan. My inclination is to block both of them as socks of User:Šāhzādé, since they are in the right country for that. These guys are Pashtun->Tajik nationality-changers. There is an alternative hypothesis that they IPs could be User:Tajik, but the CU reports seem to indicate that Tajik is distinct from User:Šāhzādé. There have not lately been any CU-confirmed socks of User:Tajik. Do blocks of these two IPs seem logical? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 16:53, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The computer I am using this minute is too slow for me to look into this. Give me a few hours to get back to you. Kingturtle (talk) 17:08, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have not found any particular evidence that solidly links the two IPs with Šāhzādé or Anoshirawan. I only have suspicions. Kingturtle (talk) 22:13, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comment, which I included in the SSP report. The report is closed; the two IPs were blocked but their pages have not been tagged with sock templates. EdJohnston (talk) 14:24, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Attempted edit to the buzkashi article

Can you explain why you reverted my attempted edit, please? Illaunroe (talk) 21:27, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There was a formatting issue. But I've fixed it! Take a look. Kingturtle (talk) 22:16, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Illaunroe (talk) 14:57, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Flagged Revs

Hi,

I noticed you voted oppose in the flag revs straw pole and would like to ask if you would mind adding User:Promethean/No to your user or talk page to make your position clear to people who visit your page :) - Thanks to Neurolysis for the template   «l| Ψrometheăn ™|l»  (talk) 06:42, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ellie Kendrick

Thanks for your message. It's my pleasure. I'm just sorry it's not longer, but time will put that right. Jack1956 (talk) 13:13, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RJ Bergman

Hey there King, I'm just getting my feet wet at CHU, I noticed that you changed RJBERGMAN's name to RJ Bergman, despite no meaningful edit history under the original name. Is there a reason why you didn't have him create a new account? What was your thought process here? (Again, I am asking because I honestly want to learn... this is an area where I have little familiarity.)---Balloonman PoppaBalloonCSD Survey Results 17:28, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just saw the note at CHU... that explains it.---Balloonman PoppaBalloonCSD Survey Results 17:29, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The system prevents creation of new usernames that are too close to existing usernames. Cheers! Kingturtle (talk) 17:33, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I had forgotten about that until I saw your note there... any advice on learning the rules surrounding USURP/name changes? I want to get my feet wet in both of those areas.---Balloonman PoppaBalloonCSD Survey Results 17:42, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Read through the archives. Boring reading for some, fun-filled hours for others :) And then of course, participate. Cheers, Kingturtle (talk) 17:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've been watching for a week or so... if you have any advice or see me doing something wrong there, let me know... but I get the sense that it is pretty cookie cutter work... not too much to think about---at least for non-crats.---Balloonman PoppaBalloonCSD Survey Results 18:11, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

for adding the relevant templates and cats to my little baby stub. KillerChihuahua?!? 14:06, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sleep.fm

Not sure how to contact you KingTurtle, but you deleted our entry on Wikipedia, which has been up since November. You stated it was blatant advertising? But, it was only stating a fact of significance of the Internet's first smart alarm clock (sleep.fm) that wakes and speaks information to those who choose to use it. It is like the alarm clock in the movie Iron Man seen in this clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXH2K2ZlrjQ . I backed up the significance of the topic via relevant media sources from major online publications. I did so, just as other web services such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop.io and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songza have done. How are these entries different from the sleep.fm entry you deleted?

[email protected]

I don't see how this could be viewed as a vehicle for advertising? Only way someone might possibly read our wiki entry is to type in sleep.fm and even that was not seen until the 10th page of Google.

Appreciate you blunt honest feedback as to why you labeled our entry blatant advertising? Do you believe the alarm clock will not evolve into a device that wakes and informs you? That Internet alarm clock devices/apps will not become part of our lifestyles?

thanks, ryan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chaser7016 (talkcontribs) 21:43, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am not the first to delete it. The article (as Sleep.FM) was deleted twice in 2007. You are using Wikipedia as a vehicle to promote your product. Wikipedia is not the place for promoting products. Kingturtle (talk) 03:43, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Prior deletions were due to the following, "Web content which doesn't indicate its importance or significance." The entry from November reversed that via referencing major online publications regarding our work. It stated fact and the significance of our work.

Our work is significant as we have taken the system of a many centuries old device and espoused with mankind's latest/greatest invention the Internet; in turn adding more functionality to this device that could not be done prior to the Internet.

Were in no way trying to promote our service using Wikipedia! Does not make any sense, as our entry was brief and did not appear on search engines..not until ten or 12 pages back!

Does this mean any and all further Wikipedia Sleep.fm entries will be deleted? Even when our work and or it's concepts start waking up millions or does then it become significant to you? Im just curious because many other Internet services have a Wikipedia entry and they are no different then what was posted for our work! What would it take for you to find our work significant, so you don't delete the next entry written by another party (a user)?

Thanks, ryan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.50.2.141 (talk) 05:31, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reverts

The "edit war" is no longer on, I have found intothefire's edits two days ago as enough of a compromise. I simply added more info. My edit comments are simply a response to his. I don't see why the latest edit would be reverted. 3swordz (talk) 18:18, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for explanation. I've re-added your most recent edit. My apologies, Kingturtle (talk) 18:23, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, I can see why you did that. 3swordz (talk) 18:26, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nosty

See my last on the talk page.
You play the uke and love Beethoven? Odd combo. Not that I should talk, I play guitar, bass, uke, mandolin, etc and love Beethoven. Oddly (I suppose). my fave is the 4th Symphony. &#0149;Jim62sch&#0149;dissera! 20:46, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The intro to the 4th is so wonderfully haunting. I love that symphony too. The 2nd was the first one I really learned - and the 7th is by far my favorite of any piece anywhere. Kingturtle (talk) 20:54, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I had to decide between the 4th and 7th, but I went with the 4th as, it is, truly haunting and yet it is a piece of immaculate beauty (and to me there's just a bit of something missing in the 7th). I learned the typical first -- the 5th. In all honesty though, unlike others, Ludwig never wrote a bad symphony. &#0149;Jim62sch&#0149;dissera! 23:37, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Data Crystal

Me and my mate were wondering if there is any way of taking over (becoming a bureaucrat) on this wiki: Data crystal , we are asking you because it has been inactive for a long time, and we were hoping to try and take over to help fix it up. I have tried asking people on this wiki but no one is ever on besides me, the only other contributions are random IP addresses that spam the articles (even more then they already are). If you could please reply on my talk page it would be highly appreciated, thanks (This message has been sent to most bureaucrat's). --MỸŠŦЄЯỸЊӘҒҒ (talk) 13:52, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

License tagging for File:Wilson-inaug.jpg

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thanks!

thanks for starting the Pontifical Roman Athenaeum S. Apollinare article! Cheers, Kingturtle (talk) 06:07, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're quite welcome! -- rmrfstar (talk) 05:25, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pamir Mountains

Could you please take a look at what's going on in Pamir Mountains? User:Zandweb keeps re-inserting an unsourced etymology despite my fairly detailed edit comments and lastly a long comment on talk page. Your expert help and guidance in this situation will be much appreciated. --Zlerman (talk) 10:09, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted Zandweb's edits and placed a request on the talk page for Zandweb to find useful, legitimate citations. Kingturtle (talk) 15:52, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Much appreciated. Thanks. --Zlerman (talk) 16:03, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, Kingturtle! Had an interesting note on my talk page today from User:Ptelea regarding a deletion to make way for a move and a move you had done back on 30 November 2008. You had deleted Ulmus parvifolia and moved Ulmus parvifolia 'Frosty' into its place, simply saying "fixing" in the edit summary. I've reverted and restored and was curious if there was a reason you could recall for the move. Your thoughts would be appreciated. Cheers, Rkitko (talk) 00:13, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It was a simple misunderstanding about species name and Cultivar. I'm glad you have helped to restore the correct version. I'm sorry that Ptelea saw it as vandalism. It was an honest mistake. I am also sorry that Ptelea didn't come to me directly about it. I would have certainly obliged. Thank you for assisting in this matter. Cheers, Kingturtle (talk) 03:57, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That's what I had suspected. Agreed on all other points. Thanks for the kind reply. Cheers, Rkitko (talk) 12:59, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwRp3Cozhbo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc8dTzs5Ltg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ7h-eoEAhA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qor3jUwf7Y8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXg67oNCLsg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.222.85.32 (talk) 12:39, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

latest done mark

Hey King, I think you put your done comment on the wrong request. You marked a request as done about a minute after it was added to CHU, and I don't see that it was done.---Balloonman PoppaBalloonCSD Survey Results 14:36, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ok now it is coming up as done... guess you did make the change ;-) I had thought you had changed the one above it, but didn't realize the new request...---Balloonman PoppaBalloonCSD Survey Results 14:37, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can always check my log. You can see I did the change. Sometimes it takes a minute for things to get updated. Cheers, Kingturtle (talk) 14:39, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

thanks

For adding to the presidential nickname list. Collect (talk) 11:22, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi KingTurtle. I think there is a new sockpuppet of banned User:NisarKand: User:Alishah85.

Could you please check this?

Thank you. Tājik (talk) 01:25, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I do not have checkuser tools. But I will look into it. Kingturtle (talk) 12:48, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

January 2009

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