User talk:DmitryKo

Welcome!

Hi DmitryKo, and a warm welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you have enjoyed editing as much as I did so far and decide to stay. Unfamiliar with the features and workings of Wikipedia? Don't fret! Be Bold! Here's some good links for your reference and that'll get you started in no time!

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- Mailer Diablo 09:44, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

WP:RM

Please lay out your "Requested moves" in the recommended format WP:RM#What to do on this Requested moves page --Philip Baird Shearer 14:46, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Bulganin

Wikipedia, along with most English sources, uses the form Nikolai not Nikolay. Adam 22:53, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

It's still the same first name. I believe it's better to stick with Transliteration of Russian into English, so people don't get confused with various transliterations of the past, and mention alternative names in the intro (see Stalin and Gorbachev).

As long as there are redirects from Nikolai Bulganin to Nikolay Bulganin, anyone is free to link either name, because they are both phonetically correct (although Nikolay is the preferred form). In any way, he is best known simply as Bulganin and there are no other notable people who go by the same family name. But feel free to add Nikolai' as an alternative name to the intro if you think it would be useful.

As a side note, if you search Mao Zedong on the IMDB, you'll find a confusing Tse-tung Mao entry; however, it's still a correct Westernized rendition of a Chinese name. DmitryKo 07:35, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The standard English form is Nikolai not Nikolay (Google them both and see). I will continue to revert this change. Adam 11:52, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Whatever. DmitryKo 11:59, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Just leave the article alone and you won't go on creating problems. Adam 12:16, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

This is really very simple. Wikipedia is an English-language encyclopaedia. The standard English transliteration of Николай is Nikolai. Therefore that is what Wikipedia should use. If you don't like it, go and edit something else and stop behaving like a child. Adam 12:40, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

To know the standard transliteration of a Russian name it is necessary to know English, not Russian. The standard English transliteration of Николай is Nikolai. You can be sarcastic about Google if you like but it is in fact the best way of determining the standard. The Aleksandr / Alexander choice is more complex because Alexander is an English name as well as a Russian one, whereas Nikolai is not (the English form being Nicholas). I would prefer Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn but I would not object to Alexander Solzhenitsyn. Adam 01:51, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• Alexander is an English name of Greek origin, but that's not the point. The point is that it is a common English name, and therefore is commonly used in place of the more Russian-looking spelling Aleksandr.

• "There wasn't any 'standard transliteration' up until 1970s." Even if that's true, there is now. In earlier times the tendency was much more to render names into the English form (Peter Tchaikovsky for example).

• "By Google, both Sergei and Sergey are acceptable for Сергей, but Nikolai should be preferred over Nikolay for Николай. Why, if the ending vowel is the same Short I?" I didn't this situation was logical, I just said what the stanard usage is. I prefer Sergei but I agree that Sergey is also common, much more common than Nikolay. Adam 13:07, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Russian subdivisions

Hi, Dmitry! I responded to your comments here.—Ëzhiki (erinaceus europeaus) 14:14, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)

WWII Ranks

Excellent work on this page Dimitry. I have readded the distinction between just two ranks in the Japanese forces (Taisa and Taii are respectively Daisa and Daii in the navy) The only thing that is bugging me is the equivalence of Russian subaltern officers. From other (non Wiki) sources, a western second lieutenant is usually a fairly brief phase after gaining a commission, after which it would be a rarity not to be promoted. I would imagine this is the same as a Russian junior lieutenant and that the regular/senior grades are therefore both equivalent to a (first)lieutentant in the west and that the division would only be of consequence in the Russian military (or defined by role if ever a joint campaign were to take place with a western army). Your thoughts would be appreciated. Dainamo 09:49, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Gasoline Direct Injection Engine

You contribution to this article is great. But I doubt abt the three modes of combustion. According to Mitsubishi site there are just two different modes of combustion (Ultra Lean Mode and the Superior Output Mode)[1]. I believe the stoichiomeric mode and full power modes can be merged into one as the time of injection is same and the difference lies only in the air fuel ratio.Gaurav1146 14:22, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

see my reply on the talk page DmitryKo

Stubsensor/stub article reply

Hi Dmitry, you left a comment on the stubsensor page. I believe we are trying to address the same problem. I hope you would read my reply and leave your thoughts back on the original page. Here is a copy of my reply for your convenience:

I believe you are correct in trying to address that problem. Articles that don't appear to be stubs but are missing information should be labeled as such however I don't think the stub tag is the right one. In this case it makes more sense to use the {{expand}} template. Instead of leaving a stub tag which conveys little information the expand tag specifically asks for information regarding expansion to be listed on the talk page. This way the shortcoming is known and a possible fix is present. Now anyone who wants to research the information can help. When the article is left marked only as a stub what needs to be done to correct it is not readily apparent. Triddle 18:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Tones on articles

What gives? Why are you adopting such a nasty tone on the Fleet Admiral of the Russian Federation article? Your source is not question, I was only giving you mine. No need to take it personal and start throwing insults. -Husnock 23:32, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

I'm actually leaning towards your sources. It just seems very strange no more 5 star naval rank. if the article does get deleted, one on the four star fleet admiral should be created. I ask for clarification on the burning question here: If Russia became involvoed in a major war would they create a five star rank? I think thats what the U.S Amry was getting at when they published the rank chart. Sorry if I was harsh up above, it just sounded like you were slamming my source as something made up when it fact it comes form an offical publication. -Husnock 23:47, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

My question is if there is no such rank, then why can shoulder boards can be found online: http://www.tridentmilitary.com/New-photos16/radsb23.jpg. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 03:34, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Husnock, Zscout370, please see my responses on the corresponding talk page. -DmitryKo 09:02, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

It was a hot topic, I think people saw that. Have no fear, your knowledge of Russian ranks is extremely impressive. Are you from there? I've heard tales of the Russian Navy in Vladivostok in that ships lie abandoed with parts on the piers and the Russian mafia is selling old submarines to the highest bidder. That was in 1999 and I'm sure most of it was U.S. sailors making stuff up! Anyway, the Russian military ranks article can be fine tuned and expanded. Look forward to butting heads about it in the future. -Husnock 04:53, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

GM Daewoo

I don't appreciate your tone. If you read up at WikiProject: Automobiles, it is agreed that these articles should not be biased toward any one nation. Where there are conflicting issues with car types, it is also agreed that the situation of the home country, in this case, Korea, should be adopted. I am reverting your reverts. Granted, I made a lousy job of shifting because I have not been here for a while, but your failure to check your facts is unacceptable. I suggest verifying with www.autoindex.org. For instance, in Korea, the Nubira was discontinued with the introduction of the Lacetti. Just because where you are, the Nubira name may have continued, does not mean that is the case everywhere.

Check around other parts of Wikipedia and you will see this convention, by and large, has been adopted. To make an exception just for your pages is ridiculous. Stombs 12:08, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

I'm not discussing the validity of the move yet. Your edits were reverted because copy and paste is just not the right way to perform the move, as it erases the edit history and makes editing process troublesome.

As for the Nubira sedan, both the car and the name are not discontinued on the international market. You chose to ignore that fact and then started a rewrite on the topic that was already well established. All you needed to do is to mention that on the local Korean market, the Nubira name is not used for the J200 sedan anymore OR the sedan itself is not sold on the Korean market anymore, whatever the facts are. Failing to mention that the sedan is still sold internationally only means that we'd have to spawn a bunch of two-line articles that serve the only purpose of linking many local names with the original Korean one (see Talk:Chevrolet Nubira#Daewoo or Chevrolet?.

--DmitryKo 14:31, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Strombs, Dmitry has a point. The current model, J200, is known under a variety of names. For instance, in my home country of the United States, J200 is known as the Suzuki Forenza. J200 is the newest, design-wise, of three GMDAT models that GM introduced to America. They are:

• Chevrolet Aveo
• Chevrolet Optra (Canada)/Suzuki Forenza
• Chevrolet Epica (Canada)/Suzuki Verona

The Aveo will probably be replaced by the Daewoo Gentra but retain the Chevy name in North America. The Epica/Verona will be replaced by the Daewoo Tosca.

Naming conventions, I think, are hard to implement, especially since there are so many names and so many models that although might've been discontinued in a manufacturer's home market are still being produced. For instance, the Daewoo Lanos is still sold in some countries, even though they have been discontinued. In fact,there is a Chevrolet Lanos sold in Russia. (See Chevy Russia's hompage (in Russian) for more details.) Or how's this: Strombs, you allude to the Nubira being discontinued with the arrival of the Lacetti. Yet in some countries the Nubira is still produced/sold, though considering that GMDAT wants to start everything fresh, I would doubt how long the Nubira will last. In fact, in some countries where the Chevrolet nameplate has supplanted the Daewoo nameplate, the Lacetti is still sold as the Nubira. In other countries, such as in Canada, Saudi Arabia, India, and South Africa, the Lacetti is sold as the Optra. I don't think it's biased, it's just what the marketing people came up with. Daniel Blanchette 01:05, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi Dmitry, wondering about something

Hi Dmitry, remember me? I'm the same person who's "DanCBJMS1988" on GMI. What's new? Hey, I was thinking, if GMI doesn't have a page, maybe there should be one? If you have a chance to go on the GMI webpage, PM me. I'll try to make a suggestion on GMI.DanCBJMS, 22:07 EDT, Tuesday, 11 October, 2005; 02:07 GMT, Wednesday, 12 October, 2005

Hi Dan, and welcome to Wikipedia! ;) I'm not sure if GMI needs to have its own article, I need to take a look at Category:Websites first, but you can always post a link in General Motors article if you feel the need to. See also Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion. --DmitryKo 10:54, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi again, sorry to disturb you, but currently I'll be working on a WikiProject regarding the Soviet Union. Since you know more about Soviet automobiles than me, you could easily be an asset to the project. Daniel Blanchette 00:47, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Russian military ranks.

High there! Regarding your question on my talkpage I think we should go for mediation, but I don't how it works on wikipedia :( --DimaY2K 19:08, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

• How about starting a new article. Something like, "REAL Russian military ranks". --DimaY2K 12:17, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

• O boy, the ranks on Comparative military ranks also have been changed. --DimaY2K 12:21, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

1.Насчёт Лейб-Гвардии вы правыю 2.Если эта таблица охватывает такой большой период, за который произошло много изменений и перемещений званий с одного класса в другой, то да надо указывать эти зания и время их действия. 3.Ундер-лейтенант во флоте согласно Еремееву существовал с 1920 по 1924 год. Еремееву я полностью доверяю, такую подробную статью про армию и про что с ней связанно (настоящия анатомия армии!) на русском языке ещё ни кто не написал. 4.Моя ошибка была-включение йомена в этот список, но написал я его правильно: йомен, а не ёмен- именно так написано в Большой Российской Энциклопедии и в Большом Российском Энциклопедическом словаре. Ланцер-судя по ним тяжёло вооружённый улан. 5. По поводу предъидущего спора по позициям званий, то в должностном ракурсе вы правы, но по зквивалентности званий нет. Воинская должность и воинское звание это не одно и тоже и часто не совпадают, особенно в НАТО и в США. В большинств армий где есть бригадный генерал нет звания генерал-полковник и последние звание перед полным генералом идёт генерал-лейтенант. И вообще эквивалентность званий одной страны к другой вопрос спорный, так как система кодировки званий OF-1 - OF-10, создавалась только для обьединённого командования стран НАТО и была заимствованна от Pay grades США и даже приравнивать звания внутри НАТО не так просто, а сравнивать звания стран не входящих в него можно чисто теоретически. С уважением --Roitr 00:11, 16 November 2005

• Is there any progress on mediation? --DimaY2K 17:19, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Comparative military ranks of World War II

Hi! I have no idea why the admins from UK delete the Soviet Marshals of specific arms and Chief marshals, which I added in the Comparative military ranks of World War II page. They also delete the highest SS rank and place Himmler to be the same rank as Generalissimo, above the Marshal of the Soviet Union. I plan to start the meditation process and ask you to participate. Thank you.--Nixer 06:27, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Re:Russian translations

Okay, you're right. I have noticed they are pretty bad when they go from Spanish to English - it is foolish for me to think that it'd be any better from Russian to English. I want to learn more languages, so I may stumble into Russian sooner or late...I want to learn French as a fourth language now. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 23:27, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Re:Roitr aka Tt1

... has been trashing Russian military ranks with his nonsensual edits, so your copyedit at Military ranks of the Soviet Union is suffering from the same problem, as you already found out. I've been trying to stop him, but I just don't have the time or desire to engage in an edit war, which is inevitable because he doesn't listen to complains. DimaY2K has been trying to reason with him, but backed off as well - I guess he just has some important things to do, besides reverting edits of a Russian-speaking teenager with very bad English skills, way too much free Internet time and apparently no Soviet military service record, and so do I... So, whatever means should be taken to stop Roitr/Tt1 and his bots and unwind his destructive edits, I'm sure both me and User:DimaY2K will fully support it.

PS. It looks like you had to seek help from a fellow admin in order to ban Roitr... I guess Wikipedia policy is not working well here, because I tried to bring this issue to the attention of the community but it just didn't worked (or maybe I misplaced my distress call. I wonder what will be your supposed course of actions here? --DmitryKo 22:46, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

I must confess one thing: he was right about the Marshal of the Soviet Union and Generalissimo dates - however, his absolute disregard pleas from several editors has pretty much pissed me off. I mean, I have made mistakes in articles, but I never blindly reverted content back to the wrong thing to fit my whims - I don't understand this Roitr guy. He thinks that these ranks should fit his needs/satisfaction. The result of this has been horrendous. I recently tried to report him WP:AN/I (found under the subtitle 'User:Roitr') but even THAT did nothing - I have found out that no one cares - making me not care. Do you believe his audacity? He came up to me to talk about my bad Russian skills and how I need to go to a library to look this stuff up - I could'nt believe it. I wound up putting a {{disputed}} tag to the article because of him. I don't know what is right or wrong, and I strongly suggest that all the articles they have been known to edit be corrected and put under heavy surveillance in the future.

My course of action? I have none, I reported them (and several of there IPs) to both Vandalism in progress and the WP:AN/I - nothing has come from those. I am not an admin. so I am not able to use sysop powers to block them off at long last. But then there is another problem: he uses apparent open proxy IPs - all of which (and for both Roitr and Tt1, I mean) come from the 80 range and are usually from Israel. So, what can we do? I actually feel defeated by this menace - the truth is I would be lying if I said I cared about now. I alerted SEVERAL people all MANY occasions about the guy - my advice now is that we put this in the hands of the admins. like Husnock and Howcheng that were keeping an eye on the guy. Thanks for giving this message, I am happy that someone finally saw the kind of crap this guy was putting on the encyclopedia. The problem would be finding someone to do something about it.

P.S. Sorry about not Wikifying this message better - if you have trouble finding anything, I'll be more than happy to point it out. Take care, εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 23:21, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

I think we are dealing with someone who is a chronic edit war vandal causing these edit wars on purpose. Also, this person sees nothing wrong at all with using multiple user IDs and anon IP addresses as sockpuppets to circumvent the Three Revert Rule and other blocks. See my talk page for further details. -Husnock 21:59, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Nixer

Well, something needs to happen (this statement was made regarding your last comment regarding patent nonsense)  :-) εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 21:27, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Come to think of it, both Nixer and Roitr registered accounts around the same time (late August, 2005) and have been attacking the same pages - I don't believe what I am finding. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 21:52, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

It is prohibited to register accounts at the same month? What do I see? Removing the Tt1's delirium is now considered being a Tt1 sockpuppet! Very well!--Nixer 11:43, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Re:Arb Com

Maybe that would work against Roitr/Tt1/Nixer, however, I doubt that this would do anything, as I have seen pure apathy on the part of admins. at WP:AN/I - but I guess people have better things to do with their lives than clean up a plate of overturned spaghetti by a toddler! εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 15:24, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Re trolls

Who is this Nixer/Roitr/Tt1/Alexr23/(multiple IPs) and what does he/she(/it) want? He's been trolling Military rank tables for weeks now and I'm sick of it. Do you think it's time for an RfC? Latinus 22:10, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Победа

Yay! Tt1 and other sockpuppets of Roitr have been blocked. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 22:53, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Not for long I suppose. For comparison I for ramoving the Tt1's delirium was blocked for a half a week.--Nixer 11:46, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi, look I'm not going to chase him. Just give me the list of affected articles so that I can put them on my watchlist and keep an eye on them. --Latinus 17:46, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh no. I think a watchpage should be made - like in the case of permabanned Bonaparte. He uses socks a lot and a log of his socks is kept at User:Bonaparte/sockpuppetry enabling people to keep an eye on their contributions. --Latinus 17:55, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Image:Chevrolet Aveo T250.jpg listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded, Image:Chevrolet Aveo T250.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.

- Slo-mo 04:05, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Chief Marshal of the Air Force of the Russian Federation

I've locked this page from being created again. The only way to stop a sockpuppet from doing this otherwise would have been to continually ban each new account, but this may serve as a better measure. Thanks for your work watching for junk in the new creations. Harro5 00:22, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

IP socks of Roitr?

Sorry to interrupt, but what method are you using to tag all of those suspected IP socks? JDoorjam Talk 04:10, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Easy - I was just making a per-article comparisons of their respective contribution with edits made by Roitr (talk · contribs)/Tt1 (talk · contribs)/Alexr23 (talk · contribs) and Markdanil (talk · contribs)/Sergeybakh (talk · contribs). Their edits are the same up to the last byte (he probably keeps text files on his hard drive, because his edits are always reverted). --DmitryKo 04:18, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

That level of Wikisleuthing is pretty intense, man. Kudos. JDoorjam Talk 04:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. It should have been done way earlier, I've been actually following this guy since last December because he nearly destroyed my favourite articles, but I just didn't think he's been using so many socks... --DmitryKo 04:24, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Polkovnyk

If you put a tag you have to explain you reasons on the talk page. The tag added without explanation will be removed.--AndriyK 14:43, 16 March 2006 (UTC)