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However, the population estimates for the S12000036 council area cannot be retrieved from this website, therefore, cannot be verified. My edit removing this piece of information from the article was reverted. I'm asking for help with finding the real source and the real population estimate [[User:Giacomini12|Giacomini12]] ([[User talk:Giacomini12|talk]]) 11:26, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
However, the population estimates for the S12000036 council area cannot be retrieved from this website, therefore, cannot be verified. My edit removing this piece of information from the article was reverted. I'm asking for help with finding the real source and the real population estimate [[User:Giacomini12|Giacomini12]] ([[User talk:Giacomini12|talk]]) 11:26, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
:Citation source is on this page: [[Template:Scottish_council_populations]]. However, the citation link no longer seems to include Scotland and Northern Ireland. According to this site https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/files/statistics/council-area-data-sheets/city-of-edinburgh-council-profile.html#Tables, 518,500 is the 2018 population estimate, whereas 526,470 is the 2021 estimate. The numbers and the citation given in [[Template:Scottish_council_populations]] should be updated with data from this page https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/statistics-and-data/statistics/statistics-by-theme/population/population-estimates/mid-year-population-estimates/population-estimates-time-series-data (https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/files//statistics/population-estimates/mid-21/mid-year-pop-est-21-time-series-data.xlsx) [[Special:Contributions/185.107.14.2|185.107.14.2]] ([[User talk:185.107.14.2|talk]]) 22:48, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
:Citation source is on this page: [[Template:Scottish_council_populations]]. However, the citation link no longer seems to include Scotland and Northern Ireland. According to this site https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/files/statistics/council-area-data-sheets/city-of-edinburgh-council-profile.html#Tables, 518,500 is the 2018 population estimate, whereas 526,470 is the 2021 estimate. The numbers and the citation given in [[Template:Scottish_council_populations]] should be updated with data from this page https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/statistics-and-data/statistics/statistics-by-theme/population/population-estimates/mid-year-population-estimates/population-estimates-time-series-data (https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/files//statistics/population-estimates/mid-21/mid-year-pop-est-21-time-series-data.xlsx) [[Special:Contributions/185.107.14.2|185.107.14.2]] ([[User talk:185.107.14.2|talk]]) 22:48, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

== Population in lead section ==
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I noticed that a contributor has changed the lead section of the [[Liverpool]] article just recently. The Liverpool lead section now only includes Liverpool's local authority population and the population of the official city region. Having looked at the [[Birmingham]], [[Leeds]] and [[Edinburgh]] articles, I notice that their lead sections make reference to the wider metropolitan area.

To quote the Birmingham article lead section: "The wider metropolitan area has a population of 4.3 million, making it the largest outside of London." The citation is worldpopulationreview.com

To quote the Leeds article: "The city is part of the fourth-largest built-up area by population in the United Kingdom, West Yorkshire Built-up Area, with a 2011 census population of 1.7 million" The citation is ONS Census 2011. The WY Built-up Area is out of date and is not calculated any more. But I am wondering if this needs to be in the lead section as an editor has removed mention of Liverpool metropolitan area from its lead section.

To quote the [[Edinburgh]] lead section, "The wider metropolitan area has a population of 912,490." The citation is OECD.

I am sure there are many many examples on wiki where city articles make reference to a wider 'urban region' or metropolitan area.

Should we be aiming for consistency in these articles? I have also started an RfC on the Leeds, Birmingham and Liverpool articles. [[User:Liverpolitan1980|Liverpolitan1980]] ([[User talk:Liverpolitan1980|talk]]) 10:12, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Revision as of 10:18, 4 May 2024

Former good article nomineeEdinburgh was a Geography and places good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
October 12, 2009Good article nomineeNot listed
February 17, 2013Good article nomineeNot listed
April 15, 2013Good article nomineeNot listed
October 8, 2013Good article nomineeNot listed
Current status: Former good article nominee

Other sports section - Edinburgh Tigers basketball team

The Edinburgh Tigers basketball team article (Lothian League Division 1, Founded 1992) needs sources to establish notability. Currently there are zero references. Created on 17 September 2010‎, it may need updates as well. I did search for sources and cannot find anything online about the team. So I'm asking for help here. Regards, JoeNMLC (talk) 21:28, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ω Awaiting - any help finding reliable sources for Edinburgh Tigers basketball team article?. To remain published it needs in-depth sources to establish notability. If not, Proposed deletion" is the next step. JoeNMLC (talk) 17:33, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Council area population

The article uses the "Scottish council populations" (514,990) template, both in infobox and in the text. The source provided for this information is: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/populationestimates/articles/demographyandmigrationdatacontent/2022-11-02#demography-unrounded-population-estimates However, the population estimates for the S12000036 council area cannot be retrieved from this website, therefore, cannot be verified. My edit removing this piece of information from the article was reverted. I'm asking for help with finding the real source and the real population estimate Giacomini12 (talk) 11:26, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Citation source is on this page: Template:Scottish_council_populations. However, the citation link no longer seems to include Scotland and Northern Ireland. According to this site https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/files/statistics/council-area-data-sheets/city-of-edinburgh-council-profile.html#Tables, 518,500 is the 2018 population estimate, whereas 526,470 is the 2021 estimate. The numbers and the citation given in Template:Scottish_council_populations should be updated with data from this page https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/statistics-and-data/statistics/statistics-by-theme/population/population-estimates/mid-year-population-estimates/population-estimates-time-series-data (https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/files//statistics/population-estimates/mid-21/mid-year-pop-est-21-time-series-data.xlsx) 185.107.14.2 (talk) 22:48, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Population in lead section

I noticed that a contributor has changed the lead section of the Liverpool article just recently. The Liverpool lead section now only includes Liverpool's local authority population and the population of the official city region. Having looked at the Birmingham, Leeds and Edinburgh articles, I notice that their lead sections make reference to the wider metropolitan area.

To quote the Birmingham article lead section: "The wider metropolitan area has a population of 4.3 million, making it the largest outside of London." The citation is worldpopulationreview.com

To quote the Leeds article: "The city is part of the fourth-largest built-up area by population in the United Kingdom, West Yorkshire Built-up Area, with a 2011 census population of 1.7 million" The citation is ONS Census 2011. The WY Built-up Area is out of date and is not calculated any more. But I am wondering if this needs to be in the lead section as an editor has removed mention of Liverpool metropolitan area from its lead section.

To quote the Edinburgh lead section, "The wider metropolitan area has a population of 912,490." The citation is OECD.

I am sure there are many many examples on wiki where city articles make reference to a wider 'urban region' or metropolitan area.

Should we be aiming for consistency in these articles? I have also started an RfC on the Leeds, Birmingham and Liverpool articles. Liverpolitan1980 (talk) 10:12, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]