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::::::I am not any falsifying sources. You on the other hand are using sources that do not prove anything and act as nothing more then empty fodder, Furthermore the Ahir, 2018 refers to "History Of Modern India" (Spectrum). Which is used as a citation for the claim that he primarly studied Indian history. In that book he is clearly referred to as a "Nationalist" historian while the section of "Communalist" historians also exist where he is not classified as such. Your own sources contradict your claims of him being a Hindu Nationalist (for which to begin with your sources are very weak to begin with). They do not prove that he was a Hindu Nationalist, they just mention it in passing and is expected to be treated as gospel. My sources explain his classification and his contributions to the field, kindly get better sources. [[User:Nothingbutthetruth2006|Nothingbutthetruth2006]] ([[User talk:Nothingbutthetruth2006|talk]]) 15:08, 20 September 2024 (UTC) |
::::::I am not any falsifying sources. You on the other hand are using sources that do not prove anything and act as nothing more then empty fodder, Furthermore the Ahir, 2018 refers to "History Of Modern India" (Spectrum). Which is used as a citation for the claim that he primarly studied Indian history. In that book he is clearly referred to as a "Nationalist" historian while the section of "Communalist" historians also exist where he is not classified as such. Your own sources contradict your claims of him being a Hindu Nationalist (for which to begin with your sources are very weak to begin with). They do not prove that he was a Hindu Nationalist, they just mention it in passing and is expected to be treated as gospel. My sources explain his classification and his contributions to the field, kindly get better sources. [[User:Nothingbutthetruth2006|Nothingbutthetruth2006]] ([[User talk:Nothingbutthetruth2006|talk]]) 15:08, 20 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::Yes you are falsifying sources by falsifying their authenticity and that is [[WP:DE|disruptive editing]]. Similarly, you are still falsely claiming that "Your own sources contradict your claims of him being a Hindu Nationalist" when no such sources have been used by me until now. It has been already proven it to you that Ahir2018 was nowhere used for claiming him to be Hindu nationalist. It does not say anything like "Majumdar was not a Hindu nationalist but a nationalist" contrary to your deceptive claims. <span style="font-family:'forte'">[[User:Ratnahastin|<span style="color:#A52A2A;">Ratnahastin</span>]] <b>([[User talk:Ratnahastin|talk]])</b></span> 15:18, 20 September 2024 (UTC) |
:::::::Yes you are falsifying sources by falsifying their authenticity and that is [[WP:DE|disruptive editing]]. Similarly, you are still falsely claiming that "Your own sources contradict your claims of him being a Hindu Nationalist" when no such sources have been used by me until now. It has been already proven it to you that Ahir2018 was nowhere used for claiming him to be Hindu nationalist. It does not say anything like "Majumdar was not a Hindu nationalist but a nationalist" contrary to your deceptive claims. <span style="font-family:'forte'">[[User:Ratnahastin|<span style="color:#A52A2A;">Ratnahastin</span>]] <b>([[User talk:Ratnahastin|talk]])</b></span> 15:18, 20 September 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::Perhaps You should reread what I wrote I wrote if You can read it again that (Ahir, 2018) which is directly cited after the claim that he was a Hindu nationalist for the claim that he studied the history of India clearly mention that HE WAS NOT A COMMUNALIST, the citations after your claim that he was promoting communalist historiography relieve him of this argument. Clearly you dont know what Disruptive Editing means, I am actually making the article better by citing PROPER AUTHENTIC ACADEMIC SOURCES as opposed to your fundamentally hollow citations. [[User:Nothingbutthetruth2006|Nothingbutthetruth2006]] ([[User talk:Nothingbutthetruth2006|talk]]) 18:56, 20 September 2024 (UTC) |
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Your citations on Majumdar being a Hindu Nationalist do not comply with Wikipedias rule of conduct. They mention this in passing rather then proving it to be fact. Furthermore future references (Ahir, 2022) also contradict the same. 2409:40D0:C:D15:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 05:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Furthermore the references cited by You are not academic in nature, which in itself is not a problem if proper methodology is used which unfortunately is not used, furthermore no citation exist in Your references. I have upgraded the article with credible academic references. 2409:40D0:C:D15:1DD2:481:5588:869D (talk) 06:50, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Those sources are scholarly. They are only stating a common fact. You have to describe how the source contradicts the information. Ratnahastin (talk) 07:19, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- They are not stating a "common fact". No historian considers Majumdar a Hindu Nationalist, a nationalist yes but not a hindu nationalist. The sources makes a revisionist claim and does not justify it at all rather just mentions it in passing. Your source (Ahir, 2018) mentions Majumdar as a Nationalist historian and not a Hindu nationalist, these are not light words to throw around and your sources do not justify it at all. Nothingbutthetruth2006 (talk) 08:58, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- You are simply falsifying the sources. Nobody is using any "Ahir 2018" to state he was a Hindu nationalist. Ratnahastin (talk) 10:21, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- I am not any falsifying sources. You on the other hand are using sources that do not prove anything and act as nothing more then empty fodder, Furthermore the Ahir, 2018 refers to "History Of Modern India" (Spectrum). Which is used as a citation for the claim that he primarly studied Indian history. In that book he is clearly referred to as a "Nationalist" historian while the section of "Communalist" historians also exist where he is not classified as such. Your own sources contradict your claims of him being a Hindu Nationalist (for which to begin with your sources are very weak to begin with). They do not prove that he was a Hindu Nationalist, they just mention it in passing and is expected to be treated as gospel. My sources explain his classification and his contributions to the field, kindly get better sources. Nothingbutthetruth2006 (talk) 15:08, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yes you are falsifying sources by falsifying their authenticity and that is disruptive editing. Similarly, you are still falsely claiming that "Your own sources contradict your claims of him being a Hindu Nationalist" when no such sources have been used by me until now. It has been already proven it to you that Ahir2018 was nowhere used for claiming him to be Hindu nationalist. It does not say anything like "Majumdar was not a Hindu nationalist but a nationalist" contrary to your deceptive claims. Ratnahastin (talk) 15:18, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps You should reread what I wrote I wrote if You can read it again that (Ahir, 2018) which is directly cited after the claim that he was a Hindu nationalist for the claim that he studied the history of India clearly mention that HE WAS NOT A COMMUNALIST, the citations after your claim that he was promoting communalist historiography relieve him of this argument. Clearly you dont know what Disruptive Editing means, I am actually making the article better by citing PROPER AUTHENTIC ACADEMIC SOURCES as opposed to your fundamentally hollow citations. Nothingbutthetruth2006 (talk) 18:56, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yes you are falsifying sources by falsifying their authenticity and that is disruptive editing. Similarly, you are still falsely claiming that "Your own sources contradict your claims of him being a Hindu Nationalist" when no such sources have been used by me until now. It has been already proven it to you that Ahir2018 was nowhere used for claiming him to be Hindu nationalist. It does not say anything like "Majumdar was not a Hindu nationalist but a nationalist" contrary to your deceptive claims. Ratnahastin (talk) 15:18, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- I am not any falsifying sources. You on the other hand are using sources that do not prove anything and act as nothing more then empty fodder, Furthermore the Ahir, 2018 refers to "History Of Modern India" (Spectrum). Which is used as a citation for the claim that he primarly studied Indian history. In that book he is clearly referred to as a "Nationalist" historian while the section of "Communalist" historians also exist where he is not classified as such. Your own sources contradict your claims of him being a Hindu Nationalist (for which to begin with your sources are very weak to begin with). They do not prove that he was a Hindu Nationalist, they just mention it in passing and is expected to be treated as gospel. My sources explain his classification and his contributions to the field, kindly get better sources. Nothingbutthetruth2006 (talk) 15:08, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- You are simply falsifying the sources. Nobody is using any "Ahir 2018" to state he was a Hindu nationalist. Ratnahastin (talk) 10:21, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- They are not stating a "common fact". No historian considers Majumdar a Hindu Nationalist, a nationalist yes but not a hindu nationalist. The sources makes a revisionist claim and does not justify it at all rather just mentions it in passing. Your source (Ahir, 2018) mentions Majumdar as a Nationalist historian and not a Hindu nationalist, these are not light words to throw around and your sources do not justify it at all. Nothingbutthetruth2006 (talk) 08:58, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Those sources are scholarly. They are only stating a common fact. You have to describe how the source contradicts the information. Ratnahastin (talk) 07:19, 20 September 2024 (UTC)