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Irvin Rockman RfC

There's a new RfC on whether criminal allegations against the late Irvin Rockman, former Melbourne mayor, should be mentioned in his article. [[1]] ClearBreeze (talk) 14:49, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

University course creating articles on female Australian artists today

You may notice a number of new or expanded articles relating to female Australian artists. These have arisen from a university course that has been supported by Wikimedia Australia and I was there this afternoon helping get the final drafts into article space. My sense is that the articles are not too bad (they had to submit the article as a Word document for review prior to creating their Wikipedia article which will have improved the quality) but of course they will not be familiar with all our policies and Manual of Style, so please be welcoming them and offer any advice in a friendly way or just fix any problems you see yourself. The students all felt very positive about what they had achieved. Being of a generation which automatically turns to Wikipedia for information, they seemed to understand the importance of what they were doing and the need to do it to their best ability. Kerry (talk) 08:32, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for this note Kerry, and this sounds like a great initiative. Is there a central listing of these new articles somewhere? Nick-D (talk) 09:36, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Not that anyone gave me, but it seems they were using Outreach Dashboard, but it seems it is not working at the moment, but watch this space. Kerry (talk) 12:32, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

@Nick-D: Ah, it is working again. See here for the list of articles edited. For anyone not familiar with the Outreach Dashboard, it is a convenient tool to track activity by a group of users at an event. All you do is input the user names and it does the rest. What is very popular with the partner organisation and the usually new-ish users is the metric of number of page views which counts the number of times the articles edited have been viewed since the first edit done by the group (that is, the number of times a reader is now better informed thanks to the group). Unlike the input metrics (# edits, # articles, # references) which tend not to grow after the event is over, the page view count keeps on growing to often quite staggering numbers of page views (currently 810K), which really helps to bring home to the group the multiplier effect we have when we contribute Wikipedia. I will stress that this is not a perfectly calculated metric but a quick and dirty one (it assumes the edit done persists throughout future versions, so even a reverted vandalism will continue to accumulate page views, but events of this nature are usually good faith albeit inexperienced contributors). Kerry (talk) 02:19, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Kerry Nick-D (talk) 08:45, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Thinking of joining but...

...where do I start? I currently live in Australia and might add some pages that I personally know, but I might require a broader topic. Any suggestions? Dibbydib ^💬/_✏ 02:00, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

@Dibbydib:In a way, it isn't always a good idea to write about something you know well, because it is easy to start writing things that you "know to be true" rather than by providing a citation. When you write about something you don't know so well, you are forced to rely on sources to learn about the topic so everything you write ends up properly cited . Having said that, it should still be a topic where you are familiar with the context that surrounds it so you can understand the source material (don't write about some chemical compound if you never studied any chemistry). Having no idea of your interests, I note there is a large To Do list of Australian topics, some of which may take your fancy. Kerry (talk) 02:45, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Sure. I'll get cracking on some of the articles on the To-Do list. Thank you! Dibbydib ^💬/_✏ 05:06, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Mingoola

Notofication that I have proposed a merge of Mingoola, New South Wales and Mingoola, Queensland to an article called Mingoola for discussion at Talk:Mingoola, New South Wales. For convenience sake, Please keep discussion on the topic at the article talk page please. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 22:23, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Useful source material website - https://www.academia.edu/

I'm increasingly finding this site a useful source of publications. The purpose of the site is to be "a platform for academics to share research papers". What this means is that you are likely to find papers there that normally live behind journal paywalls. While they are not CC-licensed (indeed, probably the copyright of most of the papers had to be assigned to the journal), nonetheless you can read them and cite them at that URL where our readers can see them too (they may need to sign up for a free account?). The value-add that you get with Academia (even with a free account) is that they will email you from time to time with details of new papers that seem to be on similar topics to ones you've previously looked at, or by the same author, which is a lightweight way to discover new papers, and provide tools to let you download a whole bunch of these related papers in a single click. And if you haven't already discovered it, Google Scholar is also a useful site for finding source material and will happily tell you about other copies available on the web (usually on university websites) apart from the publisher's official paywalled copy, and you may prefer to use these more accessible URLs in your citations than the paywalled versions. Kerry (talk) 02:47, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

Admin to protect Joh Bjelke-Petersen

Persistent vandalism from a series of IP addresses (but essentially the same edits, saying Joh is a poltergeist inhabiting the body of the current Queensland Premier) going on now for 2-3 weeks. No point shutting down the IP as they are using different IP addresses each time. Thanks if you can help Kerry (talk) 12:59, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

I've just semi-protected the article for 10 days. Please let me know if further protection is required beyond this time. Nick-D (talk) 21:44, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

Portal

Could we get a few members over at Portal talk:Australia#‎Rebuild as we have a problem editor blocking any progress on portal updates.--Moxy 🍁 03:07, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

What's actually happening is that we have a bunch of editors who have no demonstrable expertise in or experience of topics related to Australia, trying to make sweeping changes.

Moxy does a fairly consistent line in outrage rather than reasoning, and right now is particularly outraged at my thoroughly wicked suggestion that a task such as making a selection of articles about Australia should be done in consultation with this project rathrer than just by Moxy and his pals. I hope that maybe some members of this project can point to the Wikipedia Firing Squad, so that I can ask them to shoot me for my evil notion that the encyclopedia's navigational tools on a topic should be built with the involvement of editors who have some expertise in the said topic. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:41, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

As demonstrated above lots of talk with zero help....as all can see article selection was on its way till we had the above editor step in a waste our time with walls of righteous text that do not related directly to the portal at hand. Us trying to update the portal would love some input actually related to portal at hand--Moxy 🍁 03:49, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

That's an outright lie, Moxy. A complete inversion of the truth.

Here's Moxy's outraged response[2] to my request to involve this WikiProject.

My detailed analsyis of the issues involved is at Portal talk:Australia#Comments_and_analysis_by_BHG, which Moxy shows no sign at all of having read and comprehended. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:56, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

All are free to visit the page and see why the majority of us are upset with Brown's deliberate attempt at blocking progress because of their distain for another editor (not me) All are welcome to come down the brown rabbit hole and help try put this editor on the right path.--Moxy 🍁 04:05, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

As usual, Moxy avoids reasoned discussion, projects his on assumptions of bad faith, and simply lies. I made a reasoned case, which Moxy made no attempt to comprehend, and whose very existence Moxy prefers to deny. Moxy's response my request to involve this project was to say that I go out of your way to block progress ... which Moxy now prefers to deny.

I am sorry that this page is being disrupted by Moxy's antics. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:14, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

You can see who posted this thread and who replied with an attack right? PlS join us guys get us going in the right direction because we can't now as all can see from above.--Moxy 04:21, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Moxy, that is just more of your usual FUD tactic of lies, lies, lies.

Just read your own first post in this section: it is an explicit attack which you initially made under the heading of a blatantly false accusation of vandalism[3] and your own response to my note about the need for project involvement. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:30, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

It's not an attack but a statement of fact....your reverting multiple editors over a long period of time that EVERYONE at the page sees as disruptive. Can't just say lies lies liea when all can see what is going on with your harassment of the editor. As the community has told you before....best step back when you see them.....and you should also keep your word that you won't revert over and over again. What we are looking for is integrity in your contributions....not a deliberate attempt at blocking progress.--Moxy 🍁 04:42, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Moxy, your repeated lies are evidenced by the diffs above.

Whether a given edit is "progress" depends on how it is viewed. Simply labelling it as as progress is just a logical fallacy: proof by assertion.

As you well know, I set out detailed reasons, which you are either unwilling or unable to address. You also know that I have proposed an RFC, and offered to work with NA1K to draft it neutrally ... and that NA1K has refused that request. --04:52, 4 November 2019 (UTC)