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Wilbysuffolk Talk to me 19:49, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In response to your feedback

You should suggest that they visit my page for new users here which contains a section for citing sources.

SwisterTwister talk 06:42, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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newzealander 22:17, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Misha Bryan

Hi NewzealanderA, though you probably weren't aware of it, Misha Bryan had been recently deleted following an AfD discussion. Because of this I've nominated it for speedy deletion. The UK X-Factor contestants were recently released from their contracts to the programme and several people are trying to create articles about them, when they are not yet successful in their own right. Sionk (talk) 16:30, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion of Misha Bryan

(The following was copied from the deleted page Talk:Misha Bryan. Please use the proper venue for these discussions; you are welcome to re-open another review at WP:DRV if you feel the prior decision missed some key points. ~Amatulić (talk) 00:42, 30 June 2012 (UTC))[reply]

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --newzealander 16:50, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I do not understand why this article should be deleted. The argument being used right now is that Misha Bryan is not successful enough in her own right outside of the X Factor. But if you look at the Wikipedia:Notability guidelines, I would argue that she does sufficiently meet the guidelines for notability and should be granted her own page.

She has reliable third party sources on her (albeit, there is some cleanup to be done on the bare URL's)
She has significant coverage — Preceding unsigned comment added by NewzealanderA (talk • contribs) 16:50, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

When the article was last deleted there was also a Deletion Review (closed yesterday) which endorsed the decision. Sionk (talk) 22:01, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this link Sionk. But if I go to Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Criteria for musicians and ensembles the first reason for notability is "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself." Although I don't have the deleted page now to reference, if I go to List of The X Factor finalists (UK series 8) there are multiple references that are reliable sources. Newspapers in London like the Metro and Daily Mail, the website digitalspy.com, yahoo.com, musiceyz.co.uk (a credible review of her mixtape, which would mean she is noteworthy outside of X Factor). Now, on that same page there are a bunch of references to Misha B's twitter announcements, which would be uncredible. And, if there were personal trivia items that would not be considered encyclopedic on the deleted page and other things to be cleaned up and deleted off the page, then that's a whole other matter. But, if I go simply off of Wikipedia's own guidelines for musician notability, there appears to be enough there to warrant her own page. Also, if you compare Misha Bryan to many of the finalists on this last season of American Idol, then she qualifies just as much as they do for her own page. Example: Heejun_Han ------ NewzealanderA (talk) 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Because this article was recently deleted by community consensus, and the deletion decision was affirmed in a deletion review, an attempt to recreate it in article space without adequate sourcing will result in it being deleted again. I suggest you create this article as User:NewZealanderA/Misha Bryan in your own user space and improve it to the point where you are 100% certain it meets WP:MUSIC and addresses all concerns at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Misha Bryan (singer). At that point it might be advisable to contact one of the admins who deleted the article to review the work and possibly restore it to main article space.

If you want, I can restore the deleted article to your user space for you to work on. ~Amatulić (talk) 00:53, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That would be great NewzealanderA (talk) 03:20, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Article restored to User:NewZealanderA/Misha Bryan. ~Amatulić (talk) 03:52, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

X Factor

Thank you for your advice, I think I understand, will be able to edit over weekend. Zoeblackmore (talk) 5.45, 06 July 2012 (GMT)