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Šablon {{Dokumentacija}} odsad se poziva na odgovarajući modul. Trebalo bi da je sad rešen problem nedostatka margine između dokumentacije i sadržine šablona. – Aca (razgovor) 01:05, 13 septembar 2023 (CEST)
Pojedine zastarele infokutije ne upotrebljavaju se ni na jednoj stranici. Te infokutije bit će izbrisane da bismo lakše mogli pratiti i održavati postojeće infokutije koje se upotrebljavaju. – Aca (razgovor) 01:05, 13 septembar 2023 (CEST)
- One koje se ne koriste svakako treba eliminirati, a onda raditi na spajanju postojećih u jednu – Edgar A. Poe 01:17, 13 septembar 2023 (CEST)
Video sam da se vodila rasprava na pijaci o ovome, pa da je ovde nastavim. Uradio sam Nacrt:Šablon:Infokutija Naselje i lokalizovao (skoro) sve parametre, te bi ovaj šablon mogao da se koristi u svim člancima naselja, umesto da imamo 50, po jednu za svaku državu. @Inokosni organ: ti si bio pokretač te rasprave, pa me zanima tvoje mišljenje — IмSтevan razgovor 13:08, 16 septembar 2023 (CEST)
- @ImStevan: Jel' ima negdje primjer kako to funkcionira ili da ubacim randomly pa da vidim? – Edgar A. Poe 13:09, 16 septembar 2023 (CEST)
- @Edgar Allan Poe: Tek sam završio kod tako da ga nisam testirao još, sad ću da ga isprobam — IмSтevan razgovor 13:21, 16 septembar 2023 (CEST)
- @Edgar Allan Poe: Korisnik:ImStevan/igralište — IмSтevan razgovor 13:29, 16 septembar 2023 (CEST)
- @ImStevan: Ima još nešto sitnih greškica, ali - Stevane, ljubim te *___* Ovo sam ja pokušavao srediti prije 100 godina i nisam se snašao među svim modulima i kodovima, ali to je to! *___* Se ovo može supstituirati svugdje normalno ili treba usklađivati nazive parametara? Mislim, s ovim ćemo ići, ovo je usklađeno sa šablonima za države i bivše države, tako da je to točno ono što smo htjeli postići, samo treba još dotjerati malo i uskladiti parametre, a onda eliminirati sve ostalo što je višak. – Edgar A. Poe 13:38, 16 septembar 2023 (CEST)
- Infokutije se obično ne supstitušu, ali se mogu standardizovati i uskladiti parametri. AWB može pomoći u standardizaciji. Dodelio sam Stevanu pravo na upotrebu, pa ćemo postepeno eliminirati višak. Svaka čast na istrajnosti i trudu. – Aca (razgovor) 13:45, 16 septembar 2023 (CEST)
- @ImStevan: svakako se slažem, ne vidim korist infokutije "Naselje u Norveškoj" i podržavam sve što su kolege gore rekle. – Inokosni organ (razgovor) 01:35, 17 septembar 2023 (CEST)
- Infokutije se obično ne supstitušu, ali se mogu standardizovati i uskladiti parametri. AWB može pomoći u standardizaciji. Dodelio sam Stevanu pravo na upotrebu, pa ćemo postepeno eliminirati višak. Svaka čast na istrajnosti i trudu. – Aca (razgovor) 13:45, 16 septembar 2023 (CEST)
- @ImStevan: Ima još nešto sitnih greškica, ali - Stevane, ljubim te *___* Ovo sam ja pokušavao srediti prije 100 godina i nisam se snašao među svim modulima i kodovima, ali to je to! *___* Se ovo može supstituirati svugdje normalno ili treba usklađivati nazive parametara? Mislim, s ovim ćemo ići, ovo je usklađeno sa šablonima za države i bivše države, tako da je to točno ono što smo htjeli postići, samo treba još dotjerati malo i uskladiti parametre, a onda eliminirati sve ostalo što je višak. – Edgar A. Poe 13:38, 16 septembar 2023 (CEST)
Komentar: Imam još samo jedan problem, a to je sa koordinatama. Ako neko može da pogleda Nacrt:Šablon:Infokutija Naselje i Korisnik:ImStevan/igralište i da popravi, bilo bi super — IмSтevan razgovor 22:44, 16 septembar 2023 (CEST)
- Sve je rešeno. Šablon:Infokutija naselje je spreman za upotrebu — IмSтevan razgovor 17:11, 17 septembar 2023 (CEST)
- Sjajno! Odličan posao! – Aca (razgovor) 18:01, 17 septembar 2023 (CEST)
@ImStevan: Možda će bit vrijeme u budućem da se sve geografske infokutije uniformiraju prema ovoj, to će i meni biti jedan zadatak. Mogu li se druge infokutije o naseljima ukloniti, tako da ne stvaramo nove greške nad onim što ispravljamo? – Inokosni organ (razgovor) 02:08, 13 oktobar 2023 (CEST)
- @Inokosni organ: Treba proveriti koji šabloni za lokacijske mape još uvek postoje, a da nemaju pandan modula (npr Šablon:Location map Serbia i Modul:Location_map/data/Serbia). Ako svi postoje, tu nema problema. Takođe je sa prelazom na ovaj šablon potrebno izbaciti razmake, tačke i zareze iz brojeva za stanovništvo, kao i tačku iz brojki za površinu tamo gde treba da odvoji decimale na člancima gde je to slučaj — IмSтevan razgovor 19:38, 13 oktobar 2023 (CEST)
Šabloni {{Citat}}, {{Citat2}}, {{Citat3}}, {{Citat4}}, {{Citat5}} i {{Citat6}} uskoro će biti standardizirani kao {{Izdvojeni citat}}. Zamolio bih da se taj šablon koristi samo u člancima. Za citiranje na projektnim stranicama odsad valja upotrebljavati {{Izdvojeni citat komentara}}. Također bih napomenuo da se u člancima ne treba preterivati s citatima s obzirom na to da nismo Wikicitat. – Aca (razgovor) 13:47, 17 septembar 2023 (CEST)
- Gotovo. – Aca (razgovor) 18:01, 17 septembar 2023 (CEST)
- Ostalo je samo da se pouklanjanju suvišni navodnici i oznake za kurziv. Time ću se uskoro pozabaviit. – Aca (razgovor) 10:42, 19 septembar 2023 (CEST)
Standardizirani su šabloni za IMDb. Članci koji su pozivali šablon {{IMDb}} odsad pozivaju specifične šablone {{IMDb ime}}, {{IMDb naslov}}, {{IMDb epizoda}}, {{IMDb epizode}} i {{IMDb kompanija}}. Svi duplikati ovih podšablona preusmereni su i spojeni. – Aca (razgovor) 12:27, 24 septembar 2023 (CEST)
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Zdravo! Predlažem da standardiziramo boju navigacijskih šablona. Naime, aktualno stanje je šareno. Neki šabloni su tamnoplavi, neki su svetloplavi (podrazumevano), neki su žuti, neki crveni itd. Sve to dovodi do nedoslednosti u člancima (npr. Njemačka), gde članci imaju šarolike kutije, što izgleda nezgrapno i neozbiljno. Na en.wikiju svetloplava je standardizovana i većina šablona je upotrebljava. Predlažem da i mi standardizujemo tu boju i ujednačimo postojeće šablone, kako bi članci izgledali dosledno i ujednačeno. – Aca (razgovor) 19:33, 30 septembar 2023 (CEST)
- Podržavam — IмSтevan razgovor 19:36, 30 septembar 2023 (CEST)
- Kao i po pitanju zastavica, ako ljudi vole boje - neka se bojaju. I en.wiki ima cijelu seriju "obojenih" šablona (za razne nagrade, sportske i sl.), tako da smatram da apsolutna uniformiranost u tom pogledu ne dolazi u obzir jer nismo ured državne uprave pa da sve mora biti crno-bijelo i potpisano plavom kemijskom, jer ako je potpis drugom kemijskom - ne valja. Smatram da korisnike ne trebamo ograničavati u tom pogledu i kazati im da im doprinosi ne štimaju jer nisu koristili plavu kemijsku. Ali, određena razina dogovora oko načina upotrebe da bude pregledno i pristupačno je svakako moguća. – Edgar A. Poe 03:19, 1 oktobar 2023 (CEST)
- @ImStevan, Edgar Allan Poe: Šta mislite o tome da pribegnemo ovom kompromisnom predlogu – koristiti se bojama tamo gde ih en.wiki upotrebljava. Mislim da bi to rešenje smanjilo nedoslednosti, poboljšalo čitljivost i unekoliko ostavilo uredničku slobodu u izboru boja. – Aca (razgovor) 22:47, 12 oktobar 2023 (CEST)
- @Aca: Ja sam protiv ikakvog ograničavanja uredničke slobode, osim ako on doista direktno ne remeti strukturu projekta ili je vizualno nakaradan u potpunosti. Tipa... da netko iskombinira pink i narančastu, al' one fluorescentno kričave nijanse. I naravno, one koje su neprikladne ili nepovezane. Zasad, barem ja, koristimo boje sukladno sadržaju šablona. Ako to nije tako... onda okej, ali inače ne bih ograničavao. – Edgar A. Poe 22:55, 12 oktobar 2023 (CEST)
- @ImStevan, Edgar Allan Poe: Šta mislite o tome da pribegnemo ovom kompromisnom predlogu – koristiti se bojama tamo gde ih en.wiki upotrebljava. Mislim da bi to rešenje smanjilo nedoslednosti, poboljšalo čitljivost i unekoliko ostavilo uredničku slobodu u izboru boja. – Aca (razgovor) 22:47, 12 oktobar 2023 (CEST)
Hi everyone, as announced in November, the Web team at the Wikimedia Foundation is working on night mode. A very early version of this feature is now available on a small set of wikis. Because there are active technical editors in your community, we have decided to roll it out here. But don't worry, the new feature is not disruptive! (See the "known limitations" section below.) It's important for us to work together with you before we release this feature to a wider audience. Our goals for the early rollout are to:
- Show what we've built very early. The earlier you are involved, the more your voices will be reflected in the final version
- Get your help with flagging bugs, issues, and requests
- Work with technical editors to adjust various templates and gadgets to the night mode
Go to the project page and the FAQ page to see more information about the basics of this project.
Known limitations of the initial release
- Currently, night mode is only available on mobile, for logged-in users who have opted into advanced mode, as an opt-in feature.
- Gadgets may initially not work well with night mode and may have to be updated.
- Our first goal is making night mode work on articles. Special pages, talk pages, and other namespaces have not been updated to work in night mode yet. We have temporarily disabled night mode on these pages.
What we would like you to do (the broad community)
Consider linking to the Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis on pages explaining how to format templates and similar pages. Soon, this page will be marked for translation. We would like to emphasize that the recommendations may evolve. For this reason, we are not suggesting to create your local wiki copies of recommendations. At some point, the copy could become different from the original version.
What we would like you to do (template editors, interface admins, technical editors)
When most bugs are solved, we'll be able to make the night mode available for readers on both desktop and mobile. To make this happen, we need to work together with you on reporting and solving the problems.
- To turn it on, use the mobile website (for example, this is what the main page looks like on mobile) and go to the settings part of your menu and opt into advanced mode, if you haven't already. Then, set the color to night. (Later, we will be allowing the device preferences to set night mode automatically).
- Next, go to different articles and look for issues:
- If you have noticed an issue with a template but do not know how to fix it
- Please go to Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis and find a relevant example
- If no relevant example is available or you're not sure of the fix, contact us
- If you want to debug many templates in night mode
- Go to https://night-mode-checker.wmcloud.org/ and identify templates that need to be fixed. The tool flags the top 100 most read articles.
- Please go to Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis and find a relevant example
- If no relevant example is available or you're not sure of the fix, contact us
- If you want to identify problems beyond the top 100 articles.
- Install the WCAG color contrast browser extension (Chrome, Firefox) and visit some articles. Use it to identify problems
- Go to the recommendations page and find relevant examples
- If no relevant example is available or you're not sure of the fix, contact us
- If you have a bug report for night mode that is not related to templates
- Take a screenshot of what you are observing.
- Contact us. If possible, please write down the names and versions of your browser and operating system.
- If you have noticed an issue with a template but do not know how to fix it
Thank you. We're looking forward to your opinions and comments! – SGrabarczuk (WMF) (razgovor) 13:11, 21 mart 2024 (CET)
Hello. For many years, community members have requested an easy way to re-use references with different details. Now, a MediaWiki solution is coming: The new sub-referencing feature will work for wikitext and Visual Editor and will enhance the existing reference system. You can continue to use different ways of referencing, but you will probably encounter sub-references in articles written by other users. More information on the project page.
We want your feedback to make sure this feature works well for you:
- Please try the current state of development on beta wiki and let us know what you think.
- Sign up here to get updates and/or invites to participate in user research activities.
Wikimedia Deutschland’s Technical Wishes team is planning to bring this feature to Wikimedia wikis later this year. We will reach out to creators/maintainers of tools and templates related to references beforehand.
Please help us spread the message. --Johannes Richter (WMDE) (talk) 10:36, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Hello, I'm writing on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Web team. In the week of September 16 (in two weeks), we will make the Vector 2022 skin the default here on Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia. As always, we will gladly address your comments! We will also help you adjust things which Vector 2022 may not be compatible with. Check out our FAQ – you will find many useful answers there.
After the change, Vector 2022 will become the default for all logged-out users, and also logged-in who currently use Vector legacy and haven't selected it as a global preference. Logged-in users can at any time switch to any other skins. No changes are expected for users of those skins.
Together with this change, different options for font sizes will be introduced. Also, dark mode will be available for all logged-in users. To learn more about these additional changes, see another FAQ.
[Why is a change necessary] The current default skin meets the needs of the readers and editors as these were 13 years ago. Since then, new users have begun using Wikimedia projects. The old Vector doesn't meet their needs.
[Objective] The objective for the new skin is to make the interface more welcoming and comfortable for readers and useful for advanced users. It draws inspiration from previous requests, the Community Wishlist Surveys, and gadgets and scripts. The work helped our code follow the standards and improve all other skins. We reduced PHP code in Wikimedia deployed skins by 75%. The project has also focused on making it easier to support gadgets and use APIs.
[Changes and test results] The skin introduces a series of changes that improve readability and usability. The new skin does not remove any functionality currently available on the Vector skin.
- The sticky header makes it easier to find tools that editors use often. It decreases scrolling to the top of the page by 16%.
- The new table of contents makes it easier to navigate to different sections. Readers and editors jumped to different sections of the page 50% more than with the old table of contents. It also looks a bit different on talk pages.
- The new search bar is easier to find and makes it easier to find the correct search result from the list. This increased the amount of searches started by 30% on the wikis we tested on.
- The skin does not negatively affect pageviews, edit rates, or account creation. There is evidence of increases in pageviews and account creation across partner communities.
[Try it out] Try out the new skin by going to the appearance tab in your preferences and selecting Vector 2022 from the list of skins.
[How can editors change and customize this skin?] It's possible to configure and personalize our changes. We support volunteers who create new gadgets and user scripts. Check out our repository for a list of currently available customizations, or add your own.
The issue of two-script logo
Regarding the existing two-script logo - in Vector 2022, there is too little space and the logo with four lines is too big. We need to find a solution with two lines of text. I've learned that a 100% Latin logo (Wikipedija, Slobodna enciklopedija) may work for you. My idea is this: with the deployment of the skin, we will introduce a Latin logo. You will be able to change it at any time if you decide so. What do you think?
Last but not least, I would like to express my gratitude for the community members who have been working with us on technical issues. Your assistance is invaluable!
I'm curious if you, the Serbo-Croatian WP community, have any comments, questions, concerns, or other thoughts. Thank you! – SGrabarczuk (WMF) (razgovor) 19:18, 3 septembar 2024 (CEST)
- I support the proposed solution to the script-related issue, and I'm delighted to see the skin implemented as default on this project. – Aca (razgovor) 23:25, 3 septembar 2024 (CEST)