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The Infinite Moment of Us by Lauren Myracle
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did not like it

This is quite possibly the most sexist and anti-feminist YA romance I’ve ever read, and that’s saying something. Such a disappointment, and so totally not what I would have ever expected from Lauren Myracle.

Bear with me, ‘cause this is going to be long, but I think the author’s regressive treatment of gender and sexuality warrants serious examination. There’s so much wrong with this book that it’s hard to even know where to begin. There’s a lot wrong besides all the sexism, but since I can't address everything, I’ll try to stick to that.

There is so much sexism in this book. It is pervasive and overwhelming. Everything about Charlie and Wren’s relationship reeks of it. Wren is completely passive. She is a giggling, nervous virgin. She talks and acts like she’s about 12. Her innocence is attractive to Charlie, and he is very possessive of her.

There are many disturbing scenes in this book, but I found myself most incensed by the conversation between Charlie and Tessa, Wren’s best friend. Charlie goes to Tessa for advice on how best to have sex with Wren, which aside from being incredibly creepy and inappropriate, allows the author to make her anti-feminist agenda clear.

Not content with the already sexist dynamic between Charlie and Wren, the author goes further by having a “voice of God” character give Charlie a lecture on sex that is a blatant slam on feminism and sounds like it could have come out of the mouth of any right-wing conservative.

A few snips here and there, but the conversation is as follows....

She gave him unsolicited advice as well, instructing him firmly to take charge when things got “steamy.”
“Girls like guys who are strong,” she informed him.
“I’m serious,” Tessa said. “When it comes to sex, a girl wants the guy to take charge. Sometimes, I think, guys try to be too sensitive. And there’s nothing wrong with sensitive! Sensitive is awesome. But hear me out, all right?”
“Well, it’s kind of my mom’s theory,” Tessa said. “My mom says that girls are told over and over that they can do anything, be anything, have it all. Right?”
“But my mom also says that in all this girl-power business, a crucial fact has been glossed over. Wanna hear it?”
“Okey-dokey,” she said. “Well . . . my biggest point, really, is that girls and guys are different.”
“I mean it! And maybe what I’m saying doesn’t fit the conventional view of feminism, but I think guys and girls, if they’re straight, should celebrate and enjoy their differences.”
“It’s just my opinion, but a guy should be a guy, and a girl should be a girl, at least when it comes to doing it,” Tessa said.
“Just, whenever the time comes, take charge.” (223-226)


WTF? What exactly is the author proposing here? Why would she even think to imply that there is only one right way for straight people to have sex? She apparently makes an exception for LGBT people, but if you’re straight, you’re only allowed to want sex one particular way? You’re supposed to follow rigid gender roles?

It’s horrible that an author would write something like this. Something that practically guarantees that some of the teenagers reading will feel insecure or ashamed about their sexuality. If a straight girl wants to be in charge during sex, that’s not allowed? If she wants her guy to be sensitive and gentle, that’s not allowed? If a guy wants to let the girl take the lead, that’s not allowed? I don’t know what she is advocating, but my mind is going to a very disturbing place, one filled with the sort of rough, dominating sex found in many romance novels. What exactly is or isn’t allowed? A girl can’t be on top? A girl can’t initiate sex? All girls want to be passive and have the guy hold her down and fuck her? Well, despite what Lauren Myracle says, there is no one right way for straight people to have sex! Whatever feels good and feels right for both parties is perfectly fine. No one should ever feel like they have to act a particular way simply because of their gender, and that’s just as true for straight people as it is for LGBT people .

There is also this weird man/woman thing running through the last part of the book. I can’t tell whether this is more weird gender stuff or what, but the author is absolutely fixated on it. Does she mean to imply that having sex makes you a man or a woman? That it makes you an adult? Because these kids just graduated from high school. They are in love, sure, but they are kids. They’ve been dating for a couple of months. Sure, it’s hot and heavy. But it’s like the author wants us to see them as adult soulmates who are somehow supernaturally destined to be together forever. They talk about the future, Wren imagines them as husband and wife, but it all feels so fake, like they are just playing at being adults.

The man/woman obsession....

“You make me feel like I am a woman, if that makes sense.” (249)
“You make me feel like a man.” (249)
“A boy and a girl having sex in a car? That was a thrill ride, the excitement of a summer fling. But a man and a woman making love to each other again and again…” (250)
“If a man loved a woman, he should find a way to be with her.” (253)
“If a woman loved a man, couldn’t she find a way to be with that man?” (253)
“And you do make me feel like a man. No one makes me feel like you do.” (253)
“But Charlie, you are a man. I’m glad I make you feel that way, but it’s not me. It’s you. You are a man, and not just a man, but my man. I need you.” (254)
“He felt very tender towards her. Her protector, her man.” (275)


And, WTF, why does she need a protector? There’s so much more that’s wrong with this book. There’s the horrendous slut-shaming of Starrla, Charlie’s ex-girlfriend. There’s Charlie’s possessiveness. There’s the weird pretentious dialogue. There’s the preachy religious stuff. There’s the fact that the characters’ relationship feels like something out of the 1950s. Not only pre-feminist, but anti-feminist. I can’t go into everything, but I would like to address one more issue....

“I don’t want my first time to be with a condom unless we have to,” she whispered. “Just you and me--that’s what I want.” (221)
“With Starrla, he’d always worn condoms. With Wren, he was happy that their first time….would also be a first for him, and in more ways than one.” (222)


It’s really horrifying that this author would promote condomless sex as some kind of ideal experience that teenage girls should strive for. She’s idealizing it and romanticizing it. I can just imagine high school age girls reading this book and thinking how romantic it would be to have sex without a condom for their first time, nothing coming between them and their boyfriends. Except in real life, boyfriends aren’t always trustworthy. And neither are girlfriends. The last thing we should be encouraging is for boys to rely on their girlfriend’s word that she’s on birth control. How many young guys have found themselves unexpected fathers because their girlfriends told them they were on the pill? The pill is easy to forget and easy to sabotage. Unless teenage boys want to find themselves in that situation, they need to wrap it up each and every time. It’s all too easy to end up with a baby or an STD if you don’t use condoms.

For a much better look at loss of virginity from an actual feminist perspective, there is Vi from Ten Things We Did by Sarah Mlynowski. This is a girl who knows what she wants. She has a plan for her first sexual experience, decides how she wants everything to be, and seduces her more experienced male partner. She wasn’t a shrinking violet, and she sure as hell didn’t lie back and let the guy take charge, so I guess Lauren Myracle wouldn’t approve. This book also deals realistically with the possible ramifications of sex without a condom. Newsflash: people lie, and people cheat. Just because someone tells you they’re faithful or a virgin doesn’t mean that they actually are, which is why it’s important for teenagers of both sexes to fully protect themselves. Pregnancy isn’t the only bad thing that can happen.
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Reading Progress

March 27, 2014 – Started Reading
March 27, 2014 – Shelved
March 27, 2014 – Shelved as: to-read
March 28, 2014 –
page 147
46.52% "He couldn't believe she'd never had a boyfriend but he was glad she hadn't because *he* was her boyfriend now? Jesus, possessive much? Don't have a lot of patience with guys who get weird/obsessive about their girlfriends' pasts. She's got her own body and own mind and has the right to her own history."
March 29, 2014 –
page 221
69.94% "Holy crap, are you kidding me? The MC doesn't want her first time to be with a condom. This author is actually promoting condomless sex for teenagers? Presenting sex without a condom as an ideal state that a teenage girl should strive for? I am beyond horrified by this."
March 30, 2014 –
page 222
70.25% "Ok, this is beyond creepy and inappropriate. The hero decides to go to his girlfriend's BFF for advice on how best to deflower her. Dude, she's your girlfriend. Did you ever think of maybe having a conversation with *her* about her sexual expectations?"
March 30, 2014 –
page 223
70.57% "WTF is this sexist garbage? BFF has started dispensing advice, and it's all "Girls like guys who are strong" and "I'm serious. When it comes to sex, a girl wants the guy to take charge.""
March 30, 2014 –
page 225
71.2% "This is really pissing me off. Did you know that "girl power" and "the conventional view of feminism" have gotten it all wrong? According to BFF, there's only one right way for straight teens to have sex. "Guys and girls, if they're straight, should celebrate and enjoy their differences." "A guy should be a guy, and a girl should be a girl, at least when it comes to doing it." WTF does that even mean?"
March 30, 2014 –
page 226
71.52% "God, this just gets worse and worse. BFF says that Wren "kind of thinks" that Charlie might be planning on having sex with that night. But apparently Wren has no clue when this is going to happen and has no say in it? Is this part of the taking charge thing, that the guy is just supposed to choose the time and situation without any input from the girl? Charlie is talking with BFF but hasn't bothered to inform Wren."
March 31, 2014 –
page 229
72.47% "Fuck the hero. Earlier in the book, Wren sexted him a naked photo of herself when she was drunk. She made him promise to delete it. But of course we find out he didn't. "The picture of Wren was wonderful, and he'd never deleted it. How could he?""
March 31, 2014 –
page 235
74.37% "Sex in a ditch? Ok, it's their special ditch and there's a blanket, but still. I don't mind outdoor sex, but talk about doubly uncomfortable for a virgin. What bothers me most is that Wren apparently didn't even know this was happening for sure. Total lack of communication. She went and got sexy lingerie because she "kind of" thought it might happen that night, but Charlie didn't even bother to talk to her about it."
March 31, 2014 –
page 242
76.58% "Big sex scene has arrived, and it's not as awful as I was envisioning, although Wren is all nervous and giggly. Fair enough, many virgins are like that. She's fairly passive (the take charge thing?) but she does tell him he needs to take his shirt off and takes off his pants and starts giving him oral sex. Then Charlie takes over and she's totally passive for the rest of it."
March 31, 2014 –
page 244
77.22% "Oh, and a stick was poking her in the back. That's what happens when your boyfriend decides your first time will be in a ditch. And apparently she has a hell of an orgasm just from Charlie thrusting inside her, her very first time. I hope teenage girls reading the book don't get false expectations from that. And let's not forget the big sex scene was without a condom! I will have more to say about that in my review."
April 1, 2014 –
page 247
78.16% "So now that Wren's virginity is out of the way, they're apparently going at it "like bunnies." Interesting how the author chooses to phrase this. "He couldn't get enough; he wanted her all the time." Not that Wren wanted him, not that they wanted each other. Not that they both couldn't get enough. That *he* wanted her and *he* couldn't get enough. It's all about him and his desires."
April 1, 2014 –
page 249
78.8% "You make me feel like I *am* a woman, if that makes sense." "You make me feel like a man." God, is this more weird gender shit? I can't even deal anymore. Or is the author implying that having sex makes you an adult? These kids just graduated high school. I didn't start considering myself "a woman" just because I started having sex, and I was younger than both of these characters."
April 1, 2014 –
page 254
80.38% "God, these kids are annoying. Cry me a river about their impending separation. Wren's going to Guatemala. Charlie has college in Atlanta. They're both getting pissy that one of them won't cancel plans for the other. Because it's such a great idea for a couple of teenagers to change their entire future plans for someone they've been dating for like two months."
April 1, 2014 –
page 275
87.03% "Fuck all this sexism. I seriously cannot take it anymore. "You are a man, and not just a man, but my man." "He felt very tender towards her. Her protector, her man." WTF, why does she need a protector? And these characters are freaking 18. They act even younger. They talk like they're about 12, in this weird, pretentious style. It's like something out of the '50s, seriously. No feminism here, that's for sure."
April 1, 2014 –
page 316
100.0% "Done! Finally, finally done. I feel like I ran a marathon. There's a big fight near the end and I was hoping maybe these two idiots would break up, but no such luck. They get their HEA ending and get to play "husband and wife" in Guatemala, since both their colleges are letting them defer for a year. Now I have to get around to dissecting this piece of dreck."
April 1, 2014 – Finished Reading

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message 1: by Steelwhisper (last edited Apr 02, 2014 04:07AM) (new)

Steelwhisper Excellent review. And you know what this reminds me of? Something I'm more and more horrified to notice as it makes itself known and spreads like wildfire: the current gendering and support of gendering wave!

I'm sorry to say, but it definitely originates with the US far/religious right wing and the masculinist movement and it's been taken up over here in Europe as well, enthusiastically so by men and religious women. They are, literally, turning the clocks back on feminism, and they are actually FORGING science and misinterpreting things to "prove" their agenda. People nod their heads, completely unaware that we already today have more severe gendering enforced on babies still in the mothers' bellies than ever since second wave feminism in the 1960s!

It reminded me of this book and thread:

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...?

I tried to discuss things politely, but in the end backed out when confronted with so much onesidedness. But it's so disheartening to see everything returned back to status quo of the Victorian era almost when our mothers and grandmothers fought for equality. And so few seem to notice.


Khanh, first of her name, mother of bunnies What Steelwhisper said. I love your analysis on gender roles. /rage


Rainbowheart Steelwhisper, I agree, and it's only gotten worse in the last 20 years. And I think the USA is to blame. There's a resurgence of all this gendering on so many fronts. I guess it's happening because because the earlier feminists are older or deceased and all these younger women grew up with privileges that they don't even recognize. It's a far cry from the '70s Free to Be You and Me era.


message 4: by Rainbowheart (last edited Apr 02, 2014 11:03PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Rainbowheart Thanks Khanh. I was trying to channel some of your wrath! lol


message 5: by Niecey (new) - added it

Niecey I'm nit even finished with this book and I have agreed with everything. And maybe this is me being an angry colored queer woman. But I had such an issue with the author's use of this ignorant term "talking black" and "dropping her gangsta talk" not only did this book send me on a feminist rampage but the fact that she felt the need to appropriate people of color at the same time is ridiculous.


Rainbowheart Johniece, I totally agree! I didn't even get around to mentioning the racial stereotypes, but they were just one more strike against this book.


message 7: by [deleted user] (new)

I was thinking of reading this book, but after reading your review and several others, I'm not going to read it. I'm a feminist and it bugs me when books are written about girls and are written by women and they still are anti-feministic. I liked your analysis on the gender roles and thought that it was really in depth.


message 8: by Rainbowheart (last edited Jul 20, 2014 02:20PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Rainbowheart Thanks Anne! Yeah, unfortunately the fact that it was by a female writer didn't surprise me. At least 95% of the sexism and slut shaming I've seen in YA seems to come from women, not men. What did surprise me was that it was by Lauren Myracle. I've read several of her other books and she always seemed so progressive. She's written many LGBT-inclusive books, so it was a shock to see such blatant gender essentialism and regressive attitudes in this one.


message 9: by Susana (last edited Oct 08, 2014 08:23AM) (new) - added it

Susana I am so glad I read your review!:)
*removes book from TBR pile as quickly as possible...*


message 10: by Katie (new) - rated it 1 star

Katie Yes, I felt the exact same way about this novel. It was ridiculous how much she gender stereotyped. I really couldn't finish it.


message 11: by Katie (new) - rated it 1 star

Katie Yes, I felt the exact same way about this novel. It was ridiculous how much she gender stereotyped. I really couldn't finish it.


message 12: by Sam (new) - rated it 1 star

Sam Chase Thank you so much for this review. I remember reading it when I first read this book (and when I was quite inexperienced at goodreads...) and I remember agreeing with every. single. thing. Still do, honestly. And thanks for the recommendation at the end, I'll have to check it out!


Dacian So... Are you a virgin or a lesbian?


message 14: by Rainbowheart (last edited Jul 02, 2016 09:06AM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Rainbowheart Neither, I just don't appreciate sexism and slut-shaming,

Especially when it's falsely dressed up as feminism and sex-positivity.


message 15: by C.L. (new)

C.L. Lynch Thank you for saving me from suffering more of this book. I didn't enjoy the first chapter, because the author kept interrupting dialogue to explain stuff to me. I want to get to know the characters on my own, not just be spoon fed information about them. Having read your review, I don't feel like I'll be missing anything if I dump this back at the library.


Shathree (I Am February Four) THIS and the fact that 316 pages later, the character building didn't progress at all. It's sad because I'll admit that I expected better :(


Leprecat O'Kin Completely agree. You basically wrote the review I would have written.


Annaliese Even though this book has a little more sex stuff than I would usually read, the love story and plot drew me in immediately. And the ending I wish would have been explained a little more, but it was a really good book overall. About the whole book, it was one of the most amazing books I have read. ;) I'm so glad that Lauren Myracle chose to create and write this book and that she made the story so detailed and personal. This was an amazing book to read and I couldn't put it down! :)


message 19: by Diane (new)

Diane Awesome review! Definitely won't b reading this book if it has all this bullshit in it.


message 20: by Mary (new)

Mary Catherine Thank you for this review. I will definitely be skipping this book.


message 21: by Melissa (new)

Melissa Stacy Wow, this book sounds terrible. Thanks for your review! <3


message 22: by Erin (new) - rated it 1 star

Erin Smith Oh thank god you saved me from reading the rest of this book. The first few chapters definitely set off warning bells so I hopped on here to see what was up with it. Between the sexist bits in the second chapter and the ode to guns in the third chapter, I am out.


Stephanie A. I just wanted to say that between your review and the status updates, even though I disliked this for different reasons, this might be one of my all-time favorite Goodreads reviews. I actually have it bookmarked so I can come back and chortle at it from time to time.


Rainbowheart Haha, I think this is my most popular Goodreads review ever. I went back and read my status updates and good Lord, I'd forgotten how awful it all was, lol.


message 25: by Mir (new)

Mir God this sounds awful!


Steven Resnick Lol


message 27: by Ian (new)

Ian Laird Wow! Sensational, educational review. I also like the way you responded to message #13.


Charlene When I saw a glimpse of your (this) review a few hours ago, I was hoping that the book wouldn't really be as bad but you're 101% right about everything. I'm really disappointed with this whole plot and how Myracle portrayed her characters. I really don't like the fact that there is so much of sexism in this book. It completely overwhelms the entire story as well as Wren & Charlie's relationship. I wish I can just chuck this book somewhere & never see it again.


message 29: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Anderson I cannot believe this is real


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