Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Charlebois

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The result was delete. KaisaL (talk) 02:43, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Joe Charlebois

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fails WP:NHOCKEY and WP:GNG Joeykai (talk) 15:26, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I'm not an ice hockey expert, but this article appears to meet WP:NHOCKEY which states "Ice hockey players are presumed notable if they: 1. Played one or more games in an existing or defunct top professional league". The article and references indicate that during the 2013-14 season Joe Charlebois played 47 games with HC Bolzano of the Austrian Hockey League (EBEL). The league article states it "is the highest-level ice hockey league in Austria". If I am mistaken please let me know. Thanks. -- Zyxw (talk) 10:31, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I concur with Zyxw.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:03, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No he fails WP:NHOCKEY. According to WP:NHOCKEY/LA, the Austrian Hockey League is a lower-level league "for the purpose of satisfying criterion #4." Criterion #4 of NHOCKEY is "achieved preeminent honors." "Note: merely playing in one of these leagues is not enough to satisfy inclusion requirements." Joeykai (talk) 15:12, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: One of many hundreds of NN stub articles created by the indefatigable Dolovis in open defiance of hockey WikiProject consensus, and for which he was sanctioned against new article creation. The subject is a career minor leaguer without distinction, and fails of NHOCKEY. As Joeykai correctly states, the Austrian league is a lesser league, and "top professional league" does not mean the highest-level league in any given country: if that were the case, we'd be giving presumptive passes to beer league players in Lichtenstein. No evidence that he meets the GNG, beyond routine sports coverage explicitly debarred from contributing towards notability as per WP:ROUTINE. Ravenswing 08:47, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 02:03, 26 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - does not meet WP:NHOCKEY (as Joeykai correctly explained with respect to the Austrian Hockey League) and I am not finding coverage to warrant GNG. If there are sufficient Austrian sources that I haven't found but someone is able to dig up I'd be happy to change my !vote. Rlendog (talk) 13:53, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as still questionable at best for his own actual notability article. SwisterTwister talk 08:37, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.