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August 24

Joan Hinde

Tried to up-date references but when opening to edit, there is nothing there! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.10.195 (talk) 16:08, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

When you are reading an article and see a references section near the bottom populated by a series of numbered citations, you might think that if you edit the page, you will see those citations typed in that section and be able to edit them. However, normally what you will see is code similar to this:

==References==

{{Reflist}} or <references/>

The text of citations is actually in the body of the article, directly next to statements or paragraphs the citations support, using <ref>(citation)</ref> tags, which display as footnotes (e.g.^[1][2]) when you are reading an article. The template code shown above in the references section colates and displays all of the citations within the article in a numbered list in which the numbers correspond to the footnote numbers in the text. By clicking on the ^ symbol next to a citation display, you can easily find exactly where in the body of the article the citation text appears in order to edit it. For more, please see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 17:48, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ulrich W. Schiefer

Hello, my name is Maria. I wrote an article on Ulrich W. Schiefer. The first reviewer said I need to add relieable sources, so I did. However, the second reviewer said the same. Can you please help me and tell me what I need to do differently or what I need to do in the first place. The person I write about is already accepted in German Wikipedia, he has notabilty. What do I have to do? Shall I add different kinds of sources, and what kind? I have added articles that he wrote, for example. Do I need to add his business cards in order to prove that he has worked for all these companies I mention? The article is here: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Ulrich W. Schiefer

Here's the reviewers statement: This submission's references do not adequately evidence the subject's notability—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing, so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia.

Thanks, Maria Maria Konstantinidou (talk) 05:55, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Right now you have four references. And three of them were written by the subject of the article. In order to demonstrate notability, someone else must have written about the subject. Anyone can have something published. Dismas|^(talk) 06:04, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please take a look at WP:RS for guidance as to what constitutes a reliable source.--ukexpat (talk) 14:02, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Biased P.O.V.

I have found a blalantly biased statement in an article, but I don't know the proper way to fix it. I don't want to risk such a bold move as deleting, for fear that it might infringe policies.

What is the proper way to denounce this violation of standards to a reviewer/moderator/administrator?

Thanks in advance.

Denis Mattos 06:31, 24 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Denismattos (talk • contribs)

Here are three possibilities:

Be bold and remove or rewrite the text - just make sure that you give a clear edit summary so that other editors can understand your reasons. If another editor undoes your change, then begin a discussion on the talk page.
Use a template such as {{POV-statement}} to draw attention to the biased statement, and use the talk page to explain your reasons for adding the template.
As a more cautious alternative, post more details here and wait for comments. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:20, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It would be easier to give a more precise answer if we knew which article you were referring to and which statement in said article. Dismas|^(talk) 07:29, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I did not want to asume this was the correct place for indicating the article and the statement. I was lead to the article Baju Kurung from a personal conversation and found this among the text: "When they became more civilized with the adoption of Islam as their religion, the Malays slowly covered their bodies according to the tenets and teachings of Islam.".

I consider this statement to be deeply biased. It is not a neutral, neither universal, approach to assume Islamic religion "civilizes" anyone.

Thanks again,

Denis Mattos 10:07, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

I have rewritten that sentence in a more neutral way. Maproom (talk) 10:12, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

...and I have removed all three history paragraphs as a copyright violation. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:25, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Article-on Rodney Ontong written by www.walesonline.co.uk/topicsrodneyontong

Please remove this article from Rodney Ontong Wikipedia (Mystery of missing refund after cricketer's sporting dinner was cancelled,)the article is detrimental to my reputation, as much of the article is unfounded.

Your urgent attention to the above would be greatly appreciated.

Yours sincerely Rodney Ontong — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.28.226.65 (talk) 08:26, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia page Rodney Ontong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_Ontong) does not mention this news article, and, as far as I can see, has never done so. If you are concerned about the content of the page at www.walesonline.co.uk then you should take it up there, perhaps using their "Contact us" link. Are there problems with the content of the Wikipedia page? -- John of Reading (talk) 08:39, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am suspicious of the above request.

One possibility is that Mr. Ontong, resenting the walesonline article, has misguidedly chosen to complain about it here. Another is that someone who dislikes Mr. Ontong (and maybe considers that he is due repayment for the dinner) has used this Help desk to impersonate him and draw attention to the walesonline article, in the hope that an editor will add a citation of it to the Rodney Ontong article. The latter seems to me somewhat more likely. (My view is that such a citation should not be added – it would be irrelevant to Mr. Ontong's career as a cricketer.) Maproom (talk) 14:40, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The IP geolocates to Lisburn in Northern Ireland, as far as I am aware the real Mr Ontong is currently resident in or nearLondon, England. Roger (talk) 15:33, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Two unrelated articles under the same URL

The link given above has articles for both the album Up All Night and information about the actor Bruce Willis one after another. With the actors information coming before the information about the album.

I had no idea how to report this, so im posting it here in the help desk.

Is there any way of reporting it? Manalgandhi (talk) 08:29, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed it. I just looked up the article history (found by clicking the history link at the top of the article) and reverted it back to the last "good" version. And here at the Help Desk is a fine place to report small instances of vandalism like this. There is also WP:ANI for more serious cases. Dismas|^(talk) 08:41, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

here tis

hard to find somewhere to say thank you for all this wonderful information..thos — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.220.211.106 (talk) 08:49, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your kind remark. It is good to know that the result of our work is appreciated. Maproom (talk) 14:47, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Harriet Jessica Phoebe Bywater (Hetti), was born on the 10th September, 1994 in Reigate, Surrey

I have noted that when you first Google Hetti Bywater it still comes up that she was born on 13 October 1994 in Eastbourne. I have already tried to make the change to say that her birthday is actually 10th September 1994. But it still doesn't come up on the page. It is really annoying that people get the basic facts wrong. I'm fed up with reading lots of rubbbish about her. At least your site is trying to put down basic facts. But please get them right. The reason they often put down Eastbourne, is that the press in Eastbourne said that she was from there. But the press also said she was born in Wales and Hastings too. She did however attend Theatre School in Bexhill, Eastbourne and Brighton, East Sussex. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cherryb2012 (talk • contribs) 08:58, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What evidence do you have that the birthdate and place you claim is correct? Changes made without presenting any evidence will often be reverted, particularly in biographies of living persons which are subject to stricter rules than most other articles. (BTW the article concerned is Hetti Bywater.) Roger (talk) 09:51, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Article about Dr. Neema Moraveji

Dear Wikipedia helpdesk, I am a long time user of your website, and has been a bible for me in finding articles or writeups on key people/ event/ places/ happenings. I am now in need of an Article on Dr. Amitava Moraveji, the Director of the Stanford Calming Technology Lab. Could you please help me with the same? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.99.197.100 (talk) 11:38, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia dosn't have an article on Neema Moraveji but you can request one at Wikipedia:Requested articles, probably in the subcategory Wikipedia:Requested articles/Applied arts and sciences/Computer science, computing, and Internet#People (although Moraveji's work is interdisciplinary he seems to be a computer scientist by background). --Colapeninsula (talk) 11:59, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Follow up question

Above at Wikipedia:Help desk#Single purpose RfA I asked about RfA because of a task I want to do. I want to work through Wikipedia:Database reports/Articles containing red-linked files/1 and remove those redlinks. Should I go ahead and simply do this? Is this considered a controversial task? Should I get a consensus for this first? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 11:41, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Some redlinks are topics we should have an article but don't have one yet; those should be left as redlinks to remind us to write it and so when it is written it will already be linked. Other redlinks are mispellings, those should be fixed. Then some redlinks are on things we have articles on with as different name, those can be piped to the article we do have. Finally there are some redlinks that really aren't a good thing to link and they should be delinked. It may be a matter of opinion on which category a particular redlink is in, but in general be WP:BOLD. RJFJR (talk) 13:25, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As long as being bold doesn't make it harder for others to be bold. As noted at WP:REDLINK, redlinks serve an important function, and it isn't wise to unilaterally try to remove all redlinks from Wikipedia. --Jayron32 13:33, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How is a redlink to the file namespace useful for others in being bold though? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 13:47, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OH! So sorry. I misinterpreted the discussion that you were asking about redlinks in general. You're talking about removing redlinks to missing files, like deleted pics and stuff like that. Yeah, have at it. Those have no reason to exist. --Jayron32 14:02, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I mainly asked this because I wanted to be sure that this is an uncontroversial editing task. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 14:13, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's worth checking the history to see whether the file name was recently changed or vandalised, as you may be able to fix the redlink by re-instating the original file name. But apart from that I can't see any problems with removing them. Category:Pages with missing files is another way of finding relevant articles, and saves you relying on a possibly out-of-date report. Unfortunately another editor got into trouble for doing precisely this, so be prepared to stop and discuss if anyone queries what you are doing. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:13, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, he got into trouble for issues entirely unrelated to his maintainance of the filespace, despite what his protestations would have you believe. Toshio should be fine, so long as he a) actually cares about false-positives and fixing his errors b) responds to any questions that may come up in a courteous manner. People do get a bit, erm, interested, when they see the same types of edits happening in rapid succession to multiple articles, but as long as Toshio can politely explain what he's doing, I doubt anyone will persist in objecting. --Jayron32 14:24, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, checking the history seems like a good idea. Yeah, I know that that user performed that task and I am aware of that Arb case (over the correctness of which people are still divided). I will do this completely manually and I will try to take care when doing this, as I have no desire to find myself in front of the Jury :) -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 14:24, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, my response above was also referring to general redlinks rather than redlinks to files. I didn't notice the word 'files' before '/1' in the name of the report you named. RJFJR (talk) 15:56, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Verify source

On the article Where the Power Is I wish to verify the quoted text starting "unfolds the tale as ..." in the first refernece. The link requires permission that I don't have. Can someone confirm the contents in http://www.facebook.com/notes/jefferson-jesu/poisoned-electrick-head-where-the-power-is/10150340225499657

PS. I know Wikipedia has a place where you can get a source verified but having spent 10 mins without success looking for it I'm posting here.

If the text exists is it "as a objective observer" or "as an objective observer"? Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 12:27, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have a FB account and cannot view the material either because the link no longer works. The author has likely removed it. Dismas|^(talk) 12:31, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, you may have to be friend with the band member jefferson-jesu to get the permissions see it. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 12:51, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sun Creator, the place you're looking for is most probably WP:Reliable sources noticeboard. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 12:39, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, but thanks for the reply. It's a matter of verification of the source not whether it is reliable or not. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 12:51, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The place you want is Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange, which is designed to do exactly what you want, which is to find people who can access sources you can't. --Jayron32 13:20, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

YES! It's WP:REX that I was thinking of but couldn't find. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 14:44, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Highway sign on exit lists

Hello. I recently created an svg version of the Capital Beltway Sign, and placed it at the top of the infobox for the Capital Beltway article. I would like it to appear in the infoboxes and exit lists of intersecting highways (just as little signs for the New Jersey Turnpike and Garden State Parkway appear in the I-95 (NJ) article, for example. I looked at the edit file for that and other highways, but I can't seem to figure out the coding. Is there a template somewhere that I can't find? Thank you. → Michael J Ⓣ Ⓒ Ⓜ 14:45, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly, since this is a non-free image it cannot be used merely for decoration. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:49, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So this sign is different than

or

? I am not 100% sure it is copyrighted, I was playing it safe when I uploaded it. ... Anyway, can someone explain the technical procedure as to how the other ones got on those lists? → Michael J Ⓣ Ⓒ Ⓜ 15:05, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's a bit complicated, but my understanding is that simple shapes and text cannot be copyrightable as artwork, so the standard numbered route sign, like a "24" in a square, is not under copyright protection. However, some signs do pass the Threshold of originality, and as such, need to be treated like any other piece of visual artwork with regards to copyright law, and likewise, at Wikipedia. As far as how the (non-copyrighted) signs get used, you'll probably want to ask at WP:USRD which is the project that works in this area. As far as I remember (having worked on many highway articles, though many years ago) there is a template system they use. It's not hard to use, but it does take a little time to learn it. --Jayron32 15:31, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)First, you should not be uploading images unless you are completely certain of its copyright status. While claiming fair use is indeed safer than saying it's in the public domain (as the latter could constitute copyright infringement if it is copyrighted, whereas there's no legal issue with the latter), it's very important to get things right as the copyright status severely impacts what we and others can do with the image. Which brings me to answer your question - fair use images are subject to a number of strict criteria, among the most important of which is that they be minimally used, only as necessary to provide justifiable encyclopedic value. Using the image in lists as you describe violates this "minimal use" condition. The logo could probably be used once in an article about the beltway system in general, but it would be difficult to justify use elsewhere. The logos you include above can be used by anyone for any purpose as they are in the public domain, and thus not subject to any form of copyright protection (trademark laws may still apply, but that doesn't significantly impact legitimate use on Wikipedia). I'd recommend you try and determine the actual copyright status of the beltway logo, as if it is fair use you need to specify the exact owner of the copyright on the image page (the image may be subject to deletion otherwise). Hersfold non-admin^(t/a/c) 15:40, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I am attempting to determine who owns the image, but since more than one state is involved, it is not so easy. As it stands, the logo/sign is used on only the Capital Beltway page, which seems to be fair use. (Am I correct?) I think I will take this discussion over to WP:USRD before I do anything else. Someone there may actually know what we are guessing at. Thank you. → Michael J Ⓣ Ⓒ Ⓜ 16:09, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Triple crown nomination

I recently nominated myself for a regular triple crown, as I meet all the criteria. Is there anyone such as a coordinator or a reviewer list, that I could inquire with to speed up the process? Thanks, TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 15:52, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That award used to be managed by User:Durova, though checking at her contributions history, it looks like she may have drastically pulled back her participation at Wikipedia; it looks like she's only active a few days each month. She is still checking in from time to time, so if you left a friendly note on her user talk page, she should get it the next time she stops by. She's perfectly friendly, from the interactions I have had with her in the past, and I would be surprised if she completely ignored you, though it may take some days or weeks before she checks in. That's the best advise I can offer. --Jayron32 16:24, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you; I've dropped a note on her talk page. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 16:39, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Using Template:Double image within Template:Multiple image

Is this possible? I wish to create a quadruple image, 4 squares within a square, where each of the 4 images is independent of the others. Can't get it to work perfectly, this is what I get (I don't want the headers and captions):

[[file:

File:Solfège-re.svg

|100px|alt=]]

[[file:

File:Solfège-re.svg

|100px|alt=]]

Thanks. (Lobsterthermidor (talk) 16:22, 24 August 2012 (UTC))[reply]

Do you mean like this?:

Not really, I want them to look like 4 images within a square box. Thanks anyway. (Lobsterthermidor (talk) 20:26, 24 August 2012 (UTC))[reply]

Well, the "NeverAffixed" image is itself not square, so if you want to use a table method you will just have to hand-tweak margins and/or column widths if you want the box exactly square. 86.183.2.108 (talk) 21:06, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Forget the shape of the content of the frames, it's the frames themselves I want to fit together in a box of 4, as above right, but just without the strange code "File:" and "", don't know why that crops up, I'd like it not to print, then the boxes would fit together. Any more ideas? Thanks. (Lobsterthermidor (talk) 22:22, 24 August 2012 (UTC))[reply]

Brilliant! Thanks a lot. (Lobsterthermidor (talk) 22:22, 24 August 2012 (UTC))[reply]

I'm a bit confused now ... what is the difference between the one that was "Not really" what you wanted, and the one that is "Brilliant!"? 86.183.2.108 (talk) 23:13, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see but two images "above right".— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:43, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion.

Can you PLEASE put a thing in settings, "delete account"? Because I don't want this account anymore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12ashley (talk • contribs) 17:09, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is not possible to delete user accounts, as all contributions must be assigned to some identifier; either a username or an IP address.

All Wikipedia editors have the right to leave Wikipedia for good (ie, permanently). The usual way to leave the Wikipedia project is simply to stop editing. Your contributions remain in Wikipedia. If you wish to resume editing at a later date, you can simply start again by logging into the same account. Old accounts that have any significant edits are almost never deleted or recycled to new users.

If you decide to make a fresh start and do not wish to be connected to a previous account, you can simply discontinue the old account(s) and create a new one that becomes the only account you use. Discontinuing the old account means it will not be used again; it should note on its user page that it is inactive— for example, with the {{retired}} tag —to prevent the switch being seen as an attempt to sock puppet.

Editors seeking privacy per their right to vanish can have their accounts renamed and their user pages and (in some cases) user talk pages deleted. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 17:32, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

search for a winebago to rent

how do i advertise for a winebago-type motor home for a family vacation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.7.117.157 (talk) 18:47, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Craig's list? --Jayron32 18:50, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

sortable wikitable

In List of impact craters on Earth, the list is sorting 10, 100, 11, 12, etc. Can this be fixed? Rmhermen (talk) 20:04, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm… You might be interested in Help:Sorting#Numerical_sorting_problems. benzband (talk) 22:18, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm puzzled. One solution, which I have used effectively, is to use the sort template. You can see it working correctly in 2009 NCAA Women's Division I Basketball Tournament where the Table sorts by the regular season record correctly. However, when I try the same thing on this table, see test in User:Sphilbrick/sandbox, it doesn't work. There's something different, but I haven't worked out what it is.--SPhilbrick (Talk) 18:10, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Because they sort alphabetically rather than numerically, you can use Template:Hs as a work-around ("{{hs|010}} 10" for example, to sort the value of 10 properly in a list of numbers up to 999). You would need to decide on how many digits your column will have, and apply this to all numbers that have fewer digits. BigNate37_(T) 19:25, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is literally mindboggling that in 2012, we have to use crude workarounds to sort.--SPhilbrick (Talk) 19:46, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed one of the tables, more work than it is worth.--SPhilbrick (Talk) 20:24, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks all. I thought this might have been fixed. I think I remember some Bugzilla request about it. Rmhermen (talk) 22:22, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Phantom categories

Does anybody have any idea why on the Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace/Single-level templates page there are four hidden categories that cannot seem to be removed? I have tried purging, null edits, etc.; nothing has worked. There is no option to remove them with HotCat, and they are not manually listed in the source text. The cats in question are Category:User talk pages with Uw-affiliate notices, Category:User talk pages with Uw-bizlist notices, Category:Wikipedia usernames with possible policy issues, and Category:User talk pages with conflict of interest notices. Thanks in advance. NTox · talk 21:22, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

They are written into the templates that are used on that page. So, for instance, you can have an infobox for lute players with a category written into it that puts the article automatically into Category:Lute players. The category doesn't show up in the source for the article but it does show up in the infobox template source. Dismas|^(talk) 21:36, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. You might call this a facepalm moment. For some reason, I was under the impression that transclusions of templates did not automatically include the categories that were written into them. Thanks, again. NTox · talk 22:10, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

August 25

Handicap card replacement

How do I contact someone to replace my handicap card that I lost when I purchased my new car? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.153.15 (talk) 01:06, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I added a section header to you question. This page is for asking questions about how to use Wikipedia. But, I suggest contacting the car dealer and/or the department of motor vehicles. RudolfRed (talk) 01:46, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you are talking about a placard, that is usually done through your DMV. You'll need to contact your local one. If there are requirements you need to meet (assuming you do not already know what they are), you may be able to find them online before calling/going to the branch. - Purplewowies (talk) 00:56, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Table border colour

Apropos of something else, I've been trying to figure out how to specify the colour of the cell borders in a table. Despite trying everything I can think of with "border-color" and "bordercolor", I can't get it to work: the borders are always black. Does anyone know how to do this? 86.183.2.108 (talk) 01:33, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See Help:Table#Setting borders

The table's caption
Column heading 1	Column heading 2	Column heading 3
Row heading 1	Cell 2	Cell 3
Row heading A	Cell B	Cell C

-- John of Reading (talk) 06:48, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am talking about the borders dividing the individual cells, not the border around the whole table. 86.129.16.218 (talk) 11:11, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The table's caption
Column heading 1	Column heading 2	Column heading 3
Row heading 1	Cell 2	Cell 3
Row heading A	Cell B	Cell C

Like this? — Edokter (talk) — 11:38, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but no, that's not what I'm after. I want the table to look like this:

Cell A	Cell B
Cell C	Cell D

However, instead of black, I want all the lines to be some other colour. I want to specify that colour once at the top. There is supposedly a global "bordercolour" attribute, but I can't get it to work. 86.129.16.218 (talk) 13:19, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The border-collapse: collapse; does that. I changed the example. Is this what you're looking for? — Edokter (talk) — 13:45, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Did you mean border-collapse: collapse;? I thought that just controlled whether you got "double" borders or single. But anyway, more to the point, does the table immediately above, with four cells labelled Cell A, B, C and D now appear to you to have green borders? I see only black. What browser are you using? I'm wondering if this is a bug in IE. What colour borders do you see in the table below?:

Cell A	Cell B
Cell C	Cell D

86.129.16.218 (talk) 13:58, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I see only double grey borders; "bordercolor" is not a valid HTML attribute. Checking in IE8, I see that my example has a green outer border but the inner border are gray (border-collapse is alien to IE). The only way to get what you want is to either:

use inline CSS for each cell separately.
use external CSS so you can target all table headers and cells in one go.

Such is life with tables as it is today. — Edokter (talk) — 14:14, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

When you use whatever browser you used before switching to IE8, do you see all green lines in your example with style="border: 1px solid green; border-collapse: collapse;"? When I change "1px" to "5px" I can see that the outer border for me is actually green (impossible to see at 1px), but the inner cell divisions are still 1px, which suggests in IE that the "border" attribute is not applying at all to the inner cell divisions. What do you see in a.n.other browser? In fact, "bordercolor" is, or was, a valid attribute according to my big fat (old) HTML book, and also according to various websites that I have just checked. One implies that it was originally IE-specific and then written into the spec. 86.129.16.218 (talk) 17:09, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

When I copy and paste the following raw HTML using "bordercolor" into a .htm file and open it from IE it displays correctly with all red borders. When I view it in Wikipedia, the borders are black:

a	b
c	d

86.129.16.218 (talk) 17:18, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ALT

Hey peoples. I would like to add an alt for this image, but am not sure what to write, due to the image itself. Can anyone help me? Cheers, TBran dl ey 01:47, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think the idea is to describe the picture as if you were talking to someone on the telephone. Perhaps "An aerial view of a widespread built-up area, skyscrapers in the central district, mountains in the background"? -- John of Reading (talk) 06:32, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That works. Thanks! TBran dl ey 13:48, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved

Unified login with Commons

I think I am misunderstanding the unified account process with regard to Commons. (I understand the unified field theory better.) If it means I can sign into Commons with my Wikipedia login, then it doesn't work. If it means I can create an account at Commons with my same username, then it tells my name is to similar to one already in existence. The help page on Commons tell me to go to the Special:MergeAccount page on the wiki I use the most. That would be this one (it is the only one I have used so far), but there is no Special:MergeAccount that I can find. I want to be able to upload stuff to Commons too, but I can't figure out how to get an account. Do I have to make up an entirely different name? → Michael J Ⓣ Ⓒ Ⓜ 02:56, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, you should be able to use the same name. If you click this link - Special:MergeAccount - you should then be able to log in at Commons using the same user name and password as you have here. There's more at Wikipedia:Unified login. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:29, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

API Limits?

Hi all! I've been doing some serious italic title-ing on articles using a semi-automated PyWikipedia program I created, but I think I may be stumbling into rate limits of some sort - is there a set number? And, secondly, if that is the case: is there a way to become exempt from that? Theopolisme _{:) 05:10, 25 August 2012 (UTC)}[reply]

Over at Wikipedia:Bot policy, there is a note that "bots doing non-urgent tasks may edit approximately once every ten seconds", so you may be running into that - I have no idea how that is enforced. But you really need to stop and read that page, as there are some formal steps you need to go through before making automated or semi-automated edits. As an aside, I notice that you are adding {{italic title}} to articles that already have it. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:24, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are also adding {{italic title}} to a lot of articles which shouldn't have it at all, using false edit summaries to boot. That may cause opposition to allowing you semi-automated edits. Your edit summaries say "add {{italic title}} to species name". Scientific names for species and some other taxa should indeed have italics per WP:ITALIC, but many of the articles you edit are not species and many of them shouldn't have italics. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:22, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

permission to use photo

I want to use photo 220px_bush_mission_accomplished.jpg on title page of my book. It is on the Net and I understand I do not need special permission, right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ianadie (talk • contribs) 06:56, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is using this image under the doctrine of Fair use, which may not apply to your proposed use of the image (Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, this is not to be taken as legal advice). Wikipedia's description of this image is at File:Bush mission accomplished.jpg, where you will see that the image belongs to Associated Press. Their page, http://www.ap.org/company/Terms-conditions, explains how to ask them for permission. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:07, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I want wikipedia to prove to us that Bo Guagua has a chinese passport.

Please discuss at Talk:Bo Guagua, not here. Thanks, Mdann52 (talk) 08:09, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

when i tried change his nationality to "unknown", you people deleted my change, and called it "vandalism". therefore, I am asking you once again to prove to us that how you found out that the communist leader Bo Xilai's son Bo Guagua who has studied in the UK and USA for more than 10 years, who is probably still living in the usa, has a Chinese government issued passport.

your logic seems to be that since he was born in china, therefore he is automatically a chinese citizen. well. Joan Chen was born in China, but she is not a chinese citizen. Gong Li used to be, but now she is not a chinese citizen, either.

So I want to know did any of your wikipedia admins contacted him directly asked him to verify his citizenship with you? Otherwise, you are just spreading rumors about him that you can't verify! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CC6B:6B90:E910:9328:A04:FF13 (talk) 07:03, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

the examples, collapsed by Mdann52 (talk) 08:13, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

well, you people still haven't proved to us that why you think that he has a chinese passport, but not other countries' passport. he is presumingly living in the usa. by ignoring my request, it shows that wikipedia is full of error and you refuses to change your own mistakes! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CC6B:6B90:A047:E5ED:8F92:E3F4 (talk) 02:06, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

wikipdea admins are vandalizing your own page!

I wrote the following, and your admins reversed this part several times, accused me "vandalizing" your page, then protected communist murderer Gu Kailai's son - [[Bo Guagua once again. I want you to explain to me why what I added here "violated" your rules. And why is it considered vandalism?

$100,000 paid for guagua.com

In 2010, he paid $100,000 to buy guagua.com from Antonio Marin, a 53-year-old university administrator from Tenerife, Spain.^[1]

See Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2012_August_21#Bo_Guagua.27s_nationality_is_UNKNOWN., and discuss on the articles talk page. Not here. Thanks, Mdann52 (talk) 08:13, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

well, you people still haven't proved to us that why you think that he has a chinese passport, but not other countries' passport. he is presumingly living in the usa. by ignoring my request, it shows that wikipedia is full of error and you refuses to change your own mistakes! --2602:306:CC6B:6B90:A047:E5ED:8F92:E3F4 (talk) 02:07, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bonjour

J'ai vu sur votre site la page concernant le Major Kenneth O PRESTON. Je dois le contacter de toute urgence pour un problème très grave en France le concernant. Comment faire ? MerciMichèle82 (talk) 07:11, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, We have no contact details for this person. Je suis désolé, nous n'avons pas les coordonnées de cette personne. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:21, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Code needed for a specific template

I need code for templates that also put articles in categories, or is that secret? RocketMaster (talk) 10:12, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No wikicodes are secret but I'm uncertain what you want. Templates put articles in categories with the same code as articles themselves do it: Help:Category#Putting pages in categories. Templates sometime place the code inside <includeonly>...</includeonly> to prevent putting the template itself in the category. If this doesn't answer your question then please be more specific and give an example article or template if possible. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:59, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Specific Year Quotes

If you aren't going to define quotes for specific years, these categories should not exist until they are defined by matching quotes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.167.209.19 (talk) 10:12, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea what you are talking about. Could you give a specific example of what you think is not right? --ColinFine (talk) 11:55, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Scott Joplin

Gentlemen,

I just visited the "Scott Joplin "page, to learn that he was born in Texarkana, Texas ! If my geography is correct and my mind still sound, I remember Tearkama being in SW Arkansas...

Regards

Chris — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.44.93.238 (talk) 12:39, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Half of Texarkana is in Texas and half in Arkansas, hence the name I guess. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 13:01, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Basically right. Texarkana metropolitan area#Texarkana says: "The name is a portmanteau of TEXas, ARKansas, and nearby LouisiANA". [1] confirms that Scott Joplin was born in Texas. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:42, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Images in Wikipedia will not enlarge

When I click on an image in Wikipedia to enlarge it I am directed to a site called www.gophoto.it/view.php This happens every time and has been like this for several days now. Can you tell me what is happening and why images will not enlarge ? JW — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.91.241 (talk) 15:17, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Which article contains the image? Cresix (talk) 15:24, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If this happens for different images, it is almost certainly a problem on your computer: you probably have some malware. Sorry. --ColinFine (talk) 16:06, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It may be a specific group of images that you are looking at. They may have been uploaded by an external site. As per the above, it may be malware. --^CH^RI^S 4315 16:10, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Whenever I click on an image to enlarge it the address of the original upload is always upload.wikimedia.org. I agree with the posters saying it may be malware. To the OP: Try a different computer and see what happens. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 16:16, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have found the culprit - something called 1clickdownloader which is a browser extension for Chrome. Disabling it seems to work. Many thanks anyway. JW — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.91.241 (talk) 16:46, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New section tab gone

Resolved

User talk:BigNate37/TM/Extant organization content notice (edit | user page | history | links | watch | logs)

I can't tell what's suppressing the new section link at the top of this page—I imagine it's a part of one of the templates involved or something, but not sure what. Anyone able to see what's going on here? I'm hoping more eyeballs will make the problem shallow. BigNate37_(T) 17:19, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what could be causing the problem, but I noticed that the very earliest revision of the page didn't have the New section link at the top. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 17:28, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

{{Request edit}} uses the __NONEWSECTIONLINK__ "magic word". benzband (talk) 18:02, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed: i have added a parameter to the template, enabling cancelling of the magic word by insertion of |newsection=yes; and boldly applied it to your page :-) benzband (talk) 18:07, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I don't quite understand the sense of having {{request edit}} disable the new section link, but thank you for sorting that out. BigNate37_(T) 19:07, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I tracked down the cause of __NONEWSECTIONLINK__ and removed it completely.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 20:32, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome. Thank you, folks. BigNate37_(T) 22:44, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

editing my page

I recently edited a page and it is not showing the edit even though I saved it. Is there a waiting period? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RebeccaBlack111 (talk • contribs) 19:37, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, it should just work. If there is a padlock image at the top of the page, then there is a lock on the article for some reason. If not, try your edit again. Formerip (talk) 19:40, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your account shows only one edit, the one to this page.--SPhilbrick (Talk) 22:10, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly not logged in. Formerip (talk) 22:51, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

name blacklisted?

I want to edit in hindi language but when I go there my usersname is blacklisted and blocked but I never even make an edit there yet. when I go into other languages I can log in and edit but not hindi. can some person help me to log in and edit in hindi language ਰਾਜੇਨ੍ਦ੍ਰ ਸਿੰਘ (talk) 22:05, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What does your username mean in Hindi? BigNate37_(T) 22:45, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you are trying to edit the Hindi-language Wikipedia, we can't help here anyway - this is the help desk for the English-language Wikipedia. You will have to raise the issue there. [3] AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:55, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If he has been blocked, that's not really feasible. I was giving the benefit of the doubt here that perhaps their talk page was protected too, but failing that I don't know the procedure for unblock requests on that Wikipedia so I can't advise there. BigNate37_(T) 22:59, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see why ਰਾਜੇਨ੍ਦ੍ਰ ਸਿੰਘ can't ask the question as an IP - assuming that if they haven't edited yet, any block wouldn't be aimed at them personally. Possibly someone else has registered under that name and been blocked - in which case, choosing another name is going to be the only solution. Then again, without knowing what ਰਾਜੇਨ੍ਦ੍ਰ ਸਿੰਘ means (my local Hindi-speaker has probably gone to bed) it is hard to know what the problem is. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:11, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, good point. I assumed it was a unified login issue where they were banned themselves. BigNate37_(T) 23:14, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My username is not in Hindi, it is Gurmukhi Punjabi, iv made most of my edits on the punjabi-language Wikipedia, when I go into Hindi language Wikipedia it logs me out and when I try and log in its says

"<

The user name "ਰਾਜੇਨ੍ਦ੍ਰ ਸਿੰਘ" has been banned from creation. It matches the following blacklist entry: (?!(User|Wikipedia|File)( talk)?:|Talk:)\P{L}*[^\p{Gurmukhi}\P{L}].*\p{Gurmukhi}.* # Gurmukhi + anything else

>"

ਰਾਜੇਨ੍ਦ੍ਰ ਸਿੰਘ (talk) 23:27, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What? Your edits here have been made as User:ਰਾਜੇਨ੍ਦ੍ਰ ਸਿੰਘ. Are you saying that's not the username you refer to when you say "my username"? The Punjabi Wikipedia has no user called pa:User:Gurmukhi Punjabi. Or does "ਰਾਜੇਨ੍ਦ੍ਰ ਸਿੰਘ" transliterate as "Gurmukhi Punjabi"? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:07, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No I ment the language it is written in, ਰਾਜੇਨ੍ਦ੍ਰ ਸਿੰਘ translates as my name(Rajendra Singh) and I use this user name on all the wikipedias. Gurmukhi punjabi is the language it(my username) is written in The problem is that it doesn't work in Hindi language Wikipedia ਰਾਜੇਨ੍ਦ੍ਰ ਸਿੰਘ (talk) 08:08, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarification. It appears from hi:MediaWiki:Titleblacklist that the Hindi Wikipedia does not allow page names and usernames in Gurmukhi and a lot of other scripts. The line you quote

(?!(User|Wikipedia|File)( talk)?:|Talk:)\P{L}*[^\p{Gurmukhi}\P{L}].*\p{Gurmukhi}.* # Gurmukhi + anything else

is among many similar under

POTENTIALLY CONFUSING MIXED-SCRIPT TITLES

This is a mattter for the Hindi Wikipedia. You may have to choose another username there. I don't know whether they have a username request procedure for review of usernames with those scripts. If you did get the name accepted then you would probably be unable to create pages in your own userspace because the username is part of the page name. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:30, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the help. I have taken the issues to one of the administrators of hindi Wikipedia ਰਾਜੇਨ੍ਦ੍ਰ ਸਿੰਘ (talk) 11:07, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. I see an administrator has completely removed Gurmukhi from the blacklist [4] and your account is now registered there. If the blacklist stays as it is then you should have no problems creating userspace pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:55, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Links in page not working

Hi, I have searched for the last couple of hours for an answer but can not find one so I hope that you won't mind me asking this.

I have downloaded http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_diet using the tools download as PDF but the navigation links in the page do not work. Have I missed something? I can not see a setting/option for this.

Thanks

Michael

TengoKbailar (talk) 22:15, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Michael. I downloaded the same PDF but I am not clear on which navigation links you are referring to in your question. Can you clarify exactly what you are trying to do and what PDF reader (name and version) you are using? meshach (talk) 00:01, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think he wants internal links in the PDF, but there is no option for that. Goodvac (talk) 00:13, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Taishan

The Taishan page is VERY poorly written and riddled with grammatical errors. --Betterkaark (talk) 22:20, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You can be bold and start fixing it, or you can leave suggestions on the article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 23:26, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am not bold, I consider myself italic. Good day to you , sir. --Betterkaark (talk) 23:33, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

rename page

St. Joseph High School (Kenosha, Wisconsin) is a new entity. As of July 1, 2010 we became St. Joseph Catholic Academy as a result of the merging of St. Mark Elementary School, St. Joseph Interparish Jr. High, and St. Joseph High School.

I'd like the title to be changed and have been trying to do this without recreating the page, but I'm getting blocked. Please help change the title as St. Joseph High School no longer exists. Thank you. 75.9.173.103 (talk) 22:34, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Linked article. Looking into moving article... Dismas|^(talk) 00:33, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I don't see a reason to move anything. The new school already has an article at St. Joseph Catholic Academy and the article for the school under the old name makes clear the fact that the schools have merged. Dismas|^(talk) 00:47, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How to register an email?

Hello, I would like to register an email so that other editors can contact me privately if they wish. I am having trouble figuring out how to do that. I have gone to my Preferences, but when I click on "Set an email" I get taken to a dialogue box with my user name and password, and there does not seem to be an option to enter an email address. It keeps telling me something like, "your email address is improperly formatted." But to my knowledge, I have not entered any email address. Any suggestions?EMP (talk) 23:21, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Try going through Special:ChangeEmail. Goodvac (talk) 23:24, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for speedy reply. I tried it, and and when I click on "Change email" it gives me the following message: The e-mail address cannot be accepted as it appears to have an invalid format. Please enter a well-formatted address or empty that field. Thanks for your help w this! EMP (talk) 23:27, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any special characters in your email address? Did you include @? Did you include the domain? Goodvac (talk) 23:52, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I can't even get to the point where it will let me enter an email address. When I click on the "change email" button, it gives me this: "The e-mail address cannot be accepted as it appears to have an invalid format. Please enter a well-formatted address or empty that field." Maybe I can't "change email" because I had not entered an email in the first place? (it says by my email "none.")EMP (talk) 05:29, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here is what I see:

Complete this form to change your e-mail address. You will need to enter your password to confirm this change.
Username: Goodvac
Current e-mail address: [my email]
New e-mail address: [input box]
password: [input box]
Change email.....Cancel

You should be able to type in the input box beside "New e-mail address". I don't think it makes a difference whether you already set an email or not. Goodvac (talk) 05:49, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted my email address for testing and it looks as above except it says "Current e-mail address: (none)". Try to clear your entire cache, or try setting the email address at another wiki at Special:CentralAuth/Early morning person. If it works then it should also set the email address at the English Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:51, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

August 26

Flag of Yugoslavia vanished?

Hi folks, I noticed across a few Eurovision articles (pre-1992) that the flag icon for Yugoslavia has suddenly disappeared. The main article itself Flag of Yugoslavia has the flag shown at the top of the infobox, yet when you click on that image File:Flag of SFR Yugoslavia.svg, it states the file has been deleted since 2007, yet the flag icon has been around for quite some time and has only now vanished. Are nations flags suppose to get deleted? Also the image alone was being used on over 100 pages according to the file usage info. Any way around fixing this issue? Thank you. Wesley Mouse 01:31, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It was just deleted at Commons, I don't know why the servers haven't caught up yet. See [5]. I've left a note at the Commons admin who deleted it asking for an explanation. --Jayron32 01:49, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you ever so much Jayron. I thought my head was going delirious when I saw 2007 as the deleted year. Wesley Mouse 02:05, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm also not sure why it was deleted. There was another copy of this flag under another name that was nominated for deletion because it was redundant, and it looks like the Commons admin deleted this one instead. I've asked him for further comment. --Jayron32 02:07, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm assuming it is unusual to have a flag deleted? I did notice the reason stated was redundant on a file that I can only guess is the French version of the file. OK, the country no longer exists, but surely the flag would still be used for historical purposes on articles relating to the history of Yugoslavia. Wesley Mouse 02:12, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Flag of Chad.svg has also been deleted, another heavily used image. However, the deletion nominator has just responded noting that s/he has nominated 4 flags in error. If s/he knew it was in error, why didn't they leave a note on the discussion page!? Logical thing to have done surely. Wesley Mouse 02:20, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please put a colon in front of the word File when you mean to link images. See Help:Link#Wikilinks for more. BigNate37_(T) 04:26, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I thought I had done, so sorry. But I see the images have been restored now, thank you everyone who helped. Wesley Mouse 12:04, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just as a follow up, I checked into these two flags, and it looks like they have been restored at Commons. --Jayron32 02:25, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sue barker

You seriously need to look at sue barkers date of birth, guessing she's not over 100 years old as she's still on bbc1. Kind regards jemma — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jemmadimmock (talk • contribs) 01:33, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Its showing as 1956. Someone reverted it from 1856 to 1956 yesterday. Wesley Mouse 01:35, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nevado dl Tolima

How do make small revisions to my recent revisions on this topic? Cheers, Steve Ingham 211.27.5.168 (talk) 01:59, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You recent additions to Nevado del Tolima were removed by another user from the article as a violation of Wikipedia's policy against original research. All additions to Wikipedia must be based on information found in reliable sources, not on personal experiences and conversations. If you wish to add information, you need to find it published somewhere first. --Jayron32 02:04, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Akamai University is Accredited

. http://www.akamaiuniversity.us/accreditation.html

Please review this site for verification of Akamai University's status.

Thank you,

Dr. Dale McSherry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.199.128.158 (talk) 04:18, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Akamai University doesn't have an article, so which article do you think needs a correction? Also, there are many different accrediting agencies, so its possible that what you saw was reffering to a specific type of accreditation. RudolfRed (talk) 04:50, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The good Doctor was possibly referring to the university's inclusion in List of unaccredited institutions of higher education. As the given reference didn't mention Akamai, I've removed it from the list. Rojomoke (talk) 06:42, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how Rojomoke missed it, but the cited source lists Akamai in the subsection "Schools that are not Authorized to Offer Degrees in the State of Oregon", in alphabetical order between African Distributed University and Al Qasim University. I restored it to the list. --Orlady (talk) 15:08, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Autoarchiving of urls

Is there any tools I can use which can autoarchive all the urls used in an article? :) IndianBio (talk) 07:46, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there used to be this one, but I kind of doubt that any request you submit will be fullfilled. You could try it though. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 08:10, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You can also try User:Dispenser/Checklinks. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 08:13, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with tooltips

The tooltips are very useful, but there seems to be a problem. If I hover over a reference, the tootip appears (showing for example the book author and title), but then it just stays there. It doesn't seem possible to close the tooltip. After a while the page ends up plastered with tooltips, making it impossible to read the article. The only solution I have found is to refresh the page. Is there a hidden function to close a tooltip? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Urstromtaler (talk • contribs) 10:49, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is probably a problem at your end - personally, I have never had any problems. What page and browser are you using? Mdann52 (talk) 11:45, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

dominic blizzard born 2nd september 1985

my name is dominic blizzard you seem to have the incorrect information about me on wikipedia as i have tried to edit the information but have been able to.i was born on the 2nd of september 1985 but your incorrect information has 1983 as i am unable to change the information myself i would very much like it chaned asap.thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.75.252 (talk) 11:20, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have corrected the date of birth given in the article Dominic Blizzard. Maproom (talk) 12:26, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You'd changed the infobox; I've now changed the lede to match. Rojomoke (talk) 12:38, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Script problems

Can someone chensk my Commons script page? It appears to not be working, even after restarts, cache clearing etc. Thanks, Mdann52 (talk) 12:56, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There was at least one significant error,which I have now removed. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 13:16, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

One article about two different record labels of the same name

There is a dispute going on in the talk page of the CBS Records article. Someone wants to include excessive material about the former CBS Records label which is now Columbia Records and the former CBS Records company which is now Sony Music Entertainment. The current CBS Records was founded in 2006. There is already a hatnote directing a reader to the Columbia Records article for the former CBS Records label and Sony Music Entertainment for the former CBS Records company. Steelbeard1 (talk) 13:47, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like the discussion is ongoing. If you find the discussion becomes unproductive or you cannot reach consensus, then you can follow the steps at WP:DR RudolfRed (talk) 00:53, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Problems updating our business logo

New to editing on Wiki. I'm trying to use the "Upload File" wizard. I get the form filled out (all the mandatory fields), click on "This is a logo of an organization" everything looks good but the upload button is greyed out or inactive so I can't upload a new file to replace our old one. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Please help. Thanks

Here is our page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Sierra_Resort trying to use the following new logo http://www.grandsierraresort.com/uploads/templates/grandsierraresort-logo-horizontal-blk.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grandsierraresort (talk • contribs) 15:29, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done I have uploaded it for you, see the article. Happy editing! Theopolisme _{:) 17:13, 26 August 2012 (UTC)}[reply]

Files for speedy deletion — notification template in infoboxes?

Resolved

Is it possible to use Template:Deletable image-caption on images that are displayed through infoboxes? I am looking at File:Buglioni Entrance, 2012.jpg in the article Frank Buglioni, and I don't see how I can affix {{deletable image-caption}} to it. BigNate37_(T) 18:07, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I added this template to the caption. Ruslik_Zero 19:34, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I see. Thanks. BigNate37_(T) 03:36, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Essay or guidline wanted

I remember coming across some essay or guideline recently that encouraged users, when editing an article, to stick to the article's topic and not to write about things that are not directly relevant to it. I wasn't able to find it again right now. Which one could it be? --Theurgist (talk) 20:21, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WP:COATRACK or WP:TOPIC? PrimeHunter (talk) 20:36, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WP:COATRACK it was. Its counterintuitive name, as well as its not being linked from the template, prevented me from finding it again quickly. The WP:TOPIC section is fine too. Now I'm using them to possibly prove myself wrong in a discussion I'm involved in. Thanks a lot. --Theurgist (talk) 20:46, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Userbox alignment

Hi, how do you center a userbox? On my userpage, I want to center the userboxes above the hidden boxes under 'contributions'. The <center> tags aren't working. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 21:37, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How about align="center"|? TBran dl ey 21:40, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nope :/ TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 21:43, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, try:

{|width=120 align="center" |- |Page/Stuff |- |}

TBran dl ey 21:46, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, and that adds a wikitable. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 21:51, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I figured it out. Thanks, TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 22:22, 26 August 2012 (UTC) [reply]

Request to review + undo an edit

Hello, I was wondering if someone can review and undo this edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Howard_Fineman&diff=508477481&oldid=506429483. The edit simply added the phrase "liberal" to this article--and appears to be a pattern across a handful of articles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.208.12.192.

I would undo it myself; however I have an employment relationship with the subject of this article, and being mindful of WP:COI, I'd prefer to refrain from making direct edits to the article.

Thanks, Jeff Bedford (talk | COI declaration) 23:01, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done Dismas|^(talk) 23:19, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much, Dismas. --Jeff Bedford (talk | COI declaration) 02:16, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why doesn't my template work?

I created Template:Cite London Olympics to assist in improving some articles on Olympians; however, it doesn't work when I substitute it. See here for an example. I would prefer it to be substituted if possible. In addition, even if I transclude it, the template won't substitute {{date}} onto the page. Did I make an error with my formatting or is my goal impossible? Ryan Vesey 23:41, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You cannot substitute templates within the <ref></ref> tags. For example, <ref>{{subst:mdash}}</ref> doesn't work. There are two related workarounds: (1) wrap the substitution with {{#tag:ref|...}}—{{#tag:ref|{{subst:Cite London Olympics|title=Example|url=http://www.example.com}}}} (2) wrap it with {{refn}}, which is a template containing the first option—{{refn|{{subst:Cite London Olympics|title=Example|url=http://www.example.com}}}}. Goodvac (talk) 00:21, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. What do you think of the current status of the template? Ryan Vesey 00:40, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking more along the lines of not changing the template and just using {{refn}} around the substitution in articles, but the current way is fine. You'll just have to remember not to use <ref></ref> tags around it. ~~Please also add a note to the template documentation explaining that ref tags are not needed when substituting the template.~~ Oh, I see you've already done so. Goodvac (talk) 00:54, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I would have done it on my own, but it was added to WikiProject Olympics. If other editors are using it, I'd like it to be as simple as possible. Thanks for your assistance. (All this said, I don't understand what the rationale for not substituting templates within ref tags is.) Ryan Vesey 01:06, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I think it's a technical limitation related to that described at WP:REFNEST. Goodvac (talk) 01:15, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

August 27

Can I use info from this site on mine

I plan on starting a website on traveling to Europe. I was wondering if I can use content from the site if I change it up and put in my own words. Can I also use pictures from this site. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Europestephen (talk • contribs) 00:05, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Removed duplicate question. See the licence [6] for how you are allowed to reuse the content. RudolfRed (talk) 00:23, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Forgot to mention, images are not all under the same licence. You will need to look at each one to see if the licence for that one allows reuse. RudolfRed (talk) 00:30, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File added in Wikipedia instead of Wikimedia Commons

I Added a protrait to the article about Guy Colwell and put it as file in Wikipedia, together with the Category:Guy Colwell. It should be in Wikimedia Commons. I did it there but now it should be deleted in Wikipedia (i hve no right to do it). Who will do it for me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Huiwaeller (talk • contribs) 00:28, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You should be able to post a request at WP:Files_for_deletion, with the "now commons" tag to indicate that the file is now at Commons. RudolfRed (talk) 01:30, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have deleted the local file under section G7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, using this request by you as uploader as the basis. However, here or there, that file will likely be deleted since it contains no information about your authority to release the image under CC-By-SA 3.0. "Sent by author" doesn't tell us that the author released it under a suitable license or into the public domain, nor under the license you chose for it, nor would an assertion that you had that permission be sufficient. You will need to use the OTRS system and provide proper evidence of release. Please see Commons:Permission and Commons:OTRS.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:56, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Crystal Ball from the past template?

I know about WP:Crystal should be used in the case of someone including information about the future, but what should be used as a template on refs where the event took places after the time of the reference. For example, let's say that there are other references that the 1920 Democratic National Convention took place in St. Louis in August, but the only reference for the date is from a newspaper article from *prior* to the convention saying that representatives are going to the convention on August 11th-14th. Would that rate a WP:Crystal template, or would some other template be appropriate?Naraht (talk) 00:48, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nectar Design - COI - help seeking a community editor

Help Desk,

I represent the company Nectar Design, and am looking for guidance with regards to an issue on the page, which can be found [[7]] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nectar_Design).

On August 9th, a user "Nectarinc", also affiliated with the company, made a number of changes to the page, most of which were immediately (and correctly) reverted by a user Dino72. Many were repeatedly changed/reverted in a short period.

Understandably, this raised concerns on the Talk page about COI, using wikipedia for marketing, etc. However, there are legitimate, factual, errors on the page (e.g.-one of the employees listed is no longer an employee), as well as some necessary additions that I believe are in the pages best interest.

I asked for assistance on the articles Talk Page, but so far haven't heard anything. I would like your help approaching a community editor in good faith so that I may provide them with the correct information and relevant source material so that the page can be updated successfully, and to the communities satisfaction.

Thank you,

Terry the Polar Bear (talk) 01:49, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Someone just recently replied on the article's talk page, so if you list your proposed changes there, it should get attention. If not, look at the {{edit request}} template and add it to the talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 02:13, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Help with title and map marking

I am having trouble putting an infobox map on my new page. First: I titled it wrong: Bob's_Park,_Jessup,_Maryland instead of Blob's Park, Jessup, Maryland Second: I cannot get the coordinates to mark on the map. Can someone fix my title mistake, as well as point me to how to put a mark on the map with coordinates? I apologize, in advance, if this is the wrong place for these questions. LarryGrim (talk) 03:04, 27 August 2012 (UTC)LarryGrim[reply]

^ Bo Guagua paid US$100,000 for domain name: Guardian

[1] Bo Guagua paid US$100,000 for domain name: Guardian

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