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Guild of Copy Editors 2023 Annual Report

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A barnstar for you!

		The Socratic Barnstar
		For breaking a logjam that sat for months at admin recall phase II. Here's to maybe finally unbreaking RfA :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:01, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Was going to come here to give a similar barnstar. Your closes are seen and appreciated. As someone who has closed discussions in the RFA2024 circle, they can be a doozy. Many thanks!

—Sirdog (talk) 17:55, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

+1, thanks for volunteering the time to take this on. Levivich (talk) 18:13, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @leeky, @Sirdog, and @Levivich. Best, voorts (talk/contributions) 19:28, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Rank-and-file strategy

Hello, Voorts,

This draft is due to be deleted soon. If you are still working on it and want to avoid a trip to WP:REFUND, you can make an edit to the page. Just thought I'd give you a head's up. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:58, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Looks like I noticed this a bit too late, so I've requested a refund. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:22, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Neary's

On 16 September 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Neary's, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the New York City Police Department shut down highway and bridge traffic for the funeral of the owner of Neary's, an Irish pub? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Neary's. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Neary's), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Close on Benevolent Dictatorship

Hi, I'm posting here to ask you to revise your recent close. The issue here, as @Banedon points out in response, is that this RFC was conducted to resolve an ongoing dispute with no real status quo, and closing it as no consensus means that there is no resolution to the dispute. Could you please try harder to find any sort of consensus you can? Loki (talk) 16:52, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Loki. I approach every close trying to find some sort of consensus. I've re-reviewed the discussion and my close and I don't think I can come to a different conclusion. In this case, to find a consensus I would have to make up arguments for one of the sides, which I obviously cannot do as a neutral closer. As I suggested in my close, one of the next steps might be to focus on historical examples. Another option might include holding an RfC on a particular example or set of examples; it's easier to apply P&Gs to a particular set of facts and debate that rather than debate the question in the abstract. Finally, you might try WP:DRN and see if some sort of compromise can be worked out there. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:20, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Part of the reason I'm asking is that your close reads to me like it could easily have started with a rough consensus for excluding examples. You say in the close that the exclude side had both far more supporters, and that some of their arguments were not answered by the opposing side.

The other reason I'm asking is that your close also doesn't address the idea of excluding modern examples only, which would have an even stronger consensus because one of the yes votes was for only pre-modern examples. Loki (talk) 22:51, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What we *really* need is a binding decision one way or another that resolves the dispute for the next 2-3 years. As it is we simply go nowhere. Banedon (talk) 02:31, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TFA

Thank you today for Addie Viola Smith, about "the first woman to serve as a Foreign Service officer under the United States Department of Commerce who eventually worked her way up to trade commissioner in Shanghai and consul at the Consulate General of the United States, Shanghai. Smith was also involved with international feminist activism (with a colonialist and imperialist perspective), often working with her life partner, Eleanor Mary Hinder."! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:27, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Voorts Thank you for this beautiful article! Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 14:03, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]