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Murder on the Orient Express by Agatha Christie
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|| 2.5 stars ||

I have to admit that I am honestly quite baffled by this book’s popularity. I mean, it wasn’t super bad, but it surely wasn’t great either. I was all just very... mweh.

First of all, the mystery itself is quite preposterous and far-fetched. In fact, the actual reveal of the murder is so convoluted that the book basically needs to shove aside all the facts it has stated before to make it make sense. It is revealed in the end that basically everything was a misdirection and that every single witness was lying. Like, okay?? I guess I’m supposed to be shocked by that, but all it really did was make me feel like the whole book was a waste.
After all, there was no real mystery in the book, because there was no way you could have figured it out. All the evidence seemed to point towards an impossible crime, because, it turns out, it really was impossible! The crime simply did not happen that way. So, we spend all this time trying to figure out a mystery that was never going to be solved! Instead, we got a big “SIKE!” moment where we’re told everything isn’t as we thought it was.
I don’t like ‘mysteries’ that end like that; it feels like a major cop-out, and basically absolves the author from actually having the explain the murder in a smart way. Honestly, I prefer a well thought out murder mystery over a silly plot-twist any day.

Now, when it comes to the writing, I have to say I’m having mixed feelings. On the one hand the writing was simple and straight-forward, which made it very easy to follow along with. On the other hand, however, the book was structured in a way that I found very repetitive and monotonous. The characters lacked any depth whatsoever, and everything had a very cold or sterile feeling to it. There is also no action or even a hint of suspense going on here, and instead the whole thing took on a very methodical note. It was a giant listing of evidence after evidence, only for it to later be revealed that all the “evidence” was nothing but lies and misdirection! What on earth have I spent all this time reading it for then??

The main character, Hercule Poirot, also got on my nerves for some reason. He was a very pretentious little man, who was thriving on his so called ‘intellect’, willing every person to acknowledge how smart he was. He didn’t do or say anything interesting, and was painfully unhelpful the whole way through, but did keep on asking people things like “isn’t it obvious”, when in reality, it really was NOT obvious, because the whole thing was frustratingly ridiculous and insanely coincidental!

Also, I was kind of surprised by all the casual racism and sexism displayed in this book. It was even more frustrating since these prejudices were actually used as evidence to either condemn or absolve suspects in the whole murder investigation. Like, how can I take this mystery seriously when racism/sexism is used as a serious investigative method? They called their prejudices “the Psychology” to give it an air of being scientific, when in reality, it was nothing but offensive rubbish.
For example: They reason that the murderer must be a woman because no man would be hysterical enough to stab a man twelve times. They also reason that the murderer cannot be an Englishman because they are not crass enough to stab people. Instead, the Italian man is suspected because he has the temperament and vulgarity for it! Like, really??? I’m supposed to take this investigation seriously in any way?? I think not.
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Athanasia ♥︎ I believe it is so popular because it is inspired by a real life case... but yes sadly numerous kinds of casual prejudices are very often found in older english literature. We can only read and try to be better.


Imme van Gorp @Athanasia — Hmmm that seems like an unfortunate reason for a book to be popular, cus it’s not particularly telling of the quality of the mystery🙁 but oh well, I guess that explains it then😅
It’s definitely true that older literature has many prejudices in it, which I suppose is explainable in its time, but I do believe makes the book very uncomfortable to read🥴 It definitely makes me look at the whole investigation in the book with a giant side-eye, cus it just makes their reasoning look so stupid💀


Vanna (on-hiatus) So true Imme; this was never my favorite; but I believe it’s popular because it was partly inspired by a real life abduction of a child which had been a media sensation way back then. I think there are far superior stories by Agatha Christie; Death on the Nile is one of my favs.. 😍 Great review!! 💖


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lila ⋆ oh my god you read this?? my friend has been recommending agatha christie to me for ages lol but i've never got around to reading any of her books bc i rarely am in the mystery/thriller mood lol. i'm sorry this didn't work for you though! :( your reasons are so valid. i mean, repetitive and monotonous writing? casual racism & sexism? yeah, i think not. great review though, imme x


Imme van Gorp @Vanna — I wish I’d know that’s why the book was so popular, because I honestly find that a very silly reason and might not have bothered with this book in the first place then😅 It seems I should have gone with Death on the Nile instead! I did love Christie’s And Then There Were None though! That book was greattt!


Imme van Gorp @lila — If you want to read an Agatha Christie, I’d recommend And Then There Were None!! I think it’s her most popular book and for good reason; that book was soooo much better than this one! It had suspense and intrigue and interesting characters!! Something this book had none of😅


message 7: by lila ⋆ (new)

lila ⋆ @imme, wait i think i have that on my radar too! it's in my local library so i'll definitely have to check it out there. i'm glad that one worked for you though! i'm not so sure about the way you described her writing, however, because i'm generally also not too into the mystery genre, and if the writing goes for a toss then it's all going downhill for me lmaoo. thank you for the rec!! <3


Drache.... (Angelika) I LOVE your review, Imme! Your arguments for not enjoying this very much are solid ones and make sense. The racism/sexism is bad, but I fear this was "normal" 90 years ago, sadly. The sexism without a doubt.. sounds awfully like some things my grandmother used to say when we were girls (40 years ago) by the way also the racist reasoning sounds like things she said


Imme van Gorp @lila — My problems with her writing in this book were definitely not present in And Then There Were None! The writing here was repetitive and methodical, whereas that other book was filled with suspense and actually took place right in the middle of all the action! It was very very very different. I think this book is only a mystery book, whereas And Then There Were None is truly a mystery AND a thriller.


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Imme van Gorp @Drache — Aw thank you💗 Also, you’re totally right of course about this type of racism/sexism being the norm back then, but that doesn’t mean it won’t leave me uncomfortable as hell when I have to read about it. Not to mention, it just makes the characters look so stupid when they’re trying to solve a murder with those prejudices; it makes it very hard to take the book or the mystery serious after that💀 But really, the book had plenty more flaws than it being racist/sexist, so I am honestly surprised it’s still so popular🤔


message 11: by Jamie (new)

Jamie thats so weird - the best part of reading mystery books is trying to figure out who did it, so how weird to write a book where that is impossible to do?


message 12: by Imme (new) - rated it 3 stars

Imme van Gorp @Jamie — Exactly!! Those were exactly my thoughts as well!! I guess the author wanted to go for a big plot-twist over a satisfying mystery, but I do not really agree with that decision🥴😅


Drache.... (Angelika) Yeah I totally get you.. I couldn't enjoy it with these premises, either..


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Imme van Gorp @Drache — Exactly!😅


message 15: by Joseph (new)

Joseph I've only seen the film adaptations of this book, and in all of them the mystery and resolution seemed contrived. I enjoy a good mystery but can't stand when the culprit is revealed by pulling clues out of the air. As far as the racial and sexist stereotypes are concerned, it's a huge problem with a lot of "popular" fiction from this era. Edgar Rice Burroughs's Tarzan books are an excellent example. Pedestrian yet exciting tales but full of so many racist tropes it's unbelievable to modern ears. Another example is the "American Agatha Christie" Mary Roberts Rinehart, who I enjoy on the whole more than Christie, but she had some rather egregious descriptions of Black Americans that are hard to take. (See one of my notes for The Circular Staircase, as I'll not repeat it here). Still, it leaves me in a quandry. I love comics from the Golden Age, old Bugs Bunny cartoons, old movies like Holiday Inn with Bing Crosby, and there is sooooo much racism and sexism in them. My theory is that I grew up in a time and place when some things weren't obviously disturbing, having to grow into myself as a person and not the culture I was in, to learn how harmful such stereotypes were then and now. I can't imagine a lot of younger generations giving these books, comics, and movies the time of day because they are thankfully so much more aware than we were when I was the same age.


Nelly S. (on semi-hiatus) Sorry it was such a bust. I read this ages ago but I also never got the big deal about this book either and was seriously underwhelmed when I did—leave aside all the other problematic stuff. Wishing you better luck with your next read!


message 17: by Mai (new) - rated it 3 stars

Mai It's not my favorite, either. There are better from this series.


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Imme van Gorp @Joseph — Thank you so much for your insightful comment! This racial and gender stereotyping displayed here is indeed not unique to this book specifically and does occur far too often in other books written in this time. In a way, it makes sense, of course, since it reflects the public opinion of that time period, but it kinda makes it difficult or uncomfortable to read in this day and age. I definitely agree with you in that I don’t think newer generation will be as fond of these (slightly) offensive “classics” as older generations have been!


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Imme van Gorp @Nelly — Thanks, babe!❤️ I’m glad to here I wasn’t the only one who didn’t understand the hype around this book😅


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Imme van Gorp @Mai — I bet! I guess I made the wrong choice by picking this one up; sometimes the most “popular” book does not mean it’s the best one haha


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Imme van Gorp @Mai — I’ll have to check those out then!😌


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Rain Surprisingly, I don’t think I’ve read this one. Sadly, it sounds very dated


Persephone's Pomegranate I've never read an Agatha Christie novel. *hides*


message 25: by Kati *☆・゚ (new)

Kati *☆・゚ [a bit distracted atm] it's probably one of those books best enjoyed as an on-screen adaptation. 🤣


Lau ♡ LOL I read this one very long ago so I don't remember anything but who were the killers, but the part about Englishman and Italian man is hilarious. I've seen in other books they saying it's more probably for the killer to be a man because of the stregth and height, but of course it doesn't really work. Like, yes, it's more common than a man is over 190 cm than a woman, but there are women that high too. In any case, i'm sorry you disliked it so much, Imme. Hope your next one is amazing 💛


message 27: by Amina (new)

Amina As someone who does enjoy each iteration of this book, surprisingly, I've never read it! But, maybe it's better that I stick with the movie with this one. Sorry it was a miss for you, Imme. If you ever give AC's books another try, I hope it'll be a much more pleasant one. ❤️


message 28: by Imme (new) - rated it 3 stars

Imme van Gorp @Rain — oh yes, this was 100% dated! I’ve seen worse from that time, but really, it’s just still not appropriate for this day and age😅


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Imme van Gorp @Persephone — *gaspppp*


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Imme van Gorp @Kati — I would think so, yes!


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Imme van Gorp @Lau — LOL yea those reasonings are honestly so silly😭 you cannot talk about things in such certain terms when it’s really just guesswork💀 and especially when it’s based on offensive prejudices, then it just becomes so ridiculous🥴


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Imme van Gorp @Amina — I’ve never watched the movie before but now I’m curious if that one’s better… I did enjoy my other reads by AC, so I’ll definitely not discount the author on one miss alone! ;)


autumn &#x1d717;&#x1d71a;&#x1f31f; oh no the reasoning sounds insufferable! how could that be a trained detective's thinking?? Hoping your next read is much better!


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Imme van Gorp @autumn — I guess it’s because the book is kinda old so their thinking is very dated, but it does read as painfully stupid in our day and age💀🥴


Dann [Hiatus] HAHA, I think the convoluted reveals are my favorite thing about Agatha Christie (most of her books are like this, btw. So, if you didn't enjoy that aspect, you might not like any of her other books). I definitely think her whodunit style are either your thing or it's not. I happen to like it! But I understand why that wouldn't work for other people. I'd say, if you want to try another, I'd recommend Five Little Pigs. I'd say it's a tad more realistic, and that one's one of my faves.
I've always interpreted the Englishman/Italian stereotypes as more of a humor thing because usually the reveal contradicts the previously-assumed stereotypes. But I have indeed noticed some casual racist and sexist comments in some of the books, so I agree with that point.


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Imme van Gorp @Dann — I did read another book of Agatha Christie that I really liked. It also had a convoluted reveal, but at least that one didn’t basically mean that the entire book and its evidence was a waste. Like, I don’t mind it being unrealistic perse, I more so got annoyed over the fact that the entire book was basically unnecessary? I dunno, I just didn’t find it satisfying at all, unfortunately :(
I get what you’re saying about the racism/sexism possibly being meant as humorous, but in this case, I don’t think the reveal contradicted the stereotypes at all. The reveal more so meant that all the evidence was untrue, and thus, earlier assumptions proved to be wrong, not because the stereotypes were wrong, but because the crime didn’t happen the way they thought it happened. I dunno if I’m explaining it right, but well😂😂
Thanks for the rec with “Five Little Pigs” btw, I’ll have to check that out sometime!


message 37: by Luffy Sempai (new)

Luffy Sempai As a fan of Agatha Christie it was strange to read a review like yours, but it was fascinating too.

This is not my favourite book of hers but it is near the top. I like this better than And then There Were None.

One of your friends recommended (kind of), Death on the Nile. That is a very good mystery.

It was very educating to read your review. And you are very generous with your time in replying. Hope you read a better book soon!


message 38: by Imme (new) - rated it 3 stars

Imme van Gorp @Luffy — Aww thank you for your kind comment! I totally get that weird feeling of reading a somewhat negative review of a book you really like yourself! I also understand why you might like this more than And Then There Were None; they’re really veryyy different, so I think it’s also a subjective matter on if you enjoy a suspense thriller/mystery (like and then there were none) or a detective whodunit type of book (like this one) more. In any case, I’m happy to hear Death on the Nile had a good mystery in your opinion also; I guess I might have to read that sometime soon then!😉


Dann [Hiatus] That makes sense! I think finding the reveal satisfying is important. This wasn't one of her most satisfying reveals, I'd say (I disliked the And Then There Were None reveal as well). My favorites of hers are definitely the ones that seem to tie things together so well that I feel like if I had looked into all the clues more deeply, I would have reached the answer too. So I understand you!


message 40: by Mai (new) - rated it 3 stars

Mai @Luffy How interesting, And Then There Were None is my favorite of hers.


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Imme van Gorp @Dann — Exactly!!! I literally feel the exact same way as you about that; a mystery isn’t satisfying to me if the reveal is so random that you could have never figured it out based on the clues!


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Imme van Gorp @Mai — sameeee


message 43: by SK (new) - rated it 2 stars

SK I remember nothing of this book tbh, all that it bored me to death....


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Kenza That’s exactly how I always feel about classics so I’ve given up reading them 😢 there’s no point for me to read them, don’t enjoy them, and then rate 2-3 stars… simply because they’re not my style, I don’t understand the hype (but 50 years ago when books weren’t as easily accessible I probably would!), humour or outdated thinking. So I’ll still to contemporary books that I can actually relate to, and don’t have to criticise much other than my enjoyment and the plot 🫣 I cannot recommend A Good Girls Guide To Murder enough. It’s a 3 part YA series but I really liked it as a not so young anymore adult! It also has a novella, but I’m not sure you’ll like that according to your review.


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Imme van Gorp @SK — LMAO that’s so valid🤣🤣


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Imme van Gorp @Kenza — I totally get what you’re saying! A lot of classics also make me feel the same way… There are a few exceptional exceptions though, so sometimes I do read a classic when I truly believe I will love it. I honestly thought I would really like this book too, because I read another book by Agatha Christie which I thoroughly enjoyed! Bus alas. This had too many downfalls :( I definitely prefer contemporary stories too though!! No doubt about that!
And thank you for the recommendation! I’ve heard about that trilogy before, so I’ll have to check it out sometime soon! ;)


message 47: by giu (new) - rated it 4 stars

giu I felt the same way!! At first I was curious but then I got tired of reading it and the mystery at least for me was really predictable. I read Death on the Nile after reading this and the racism and sexism is also pointless and stupid🙄
Anyways, amazing review Imme💖 I totally recommend you by Agatha Christie “And Then There Were None”, it is waaaaay better than this one!🥰


message 48: by Imme (new) - rated it 3 stars

Imme van Gorp @giuliana — urghh, I hate that Death of the Nile had the same problematic issues :( I suppose it’d hard to avoid with older books, but it’s still always disappointing to read🙁
Also, yessss, I read And Then There Were None, and I agree with you soooo much that it was a lot better!! I actually loved that book!!


message 49: by Mai (new) - rated it 3 stars

Mai I love And Then There Were None, but it is also racist. The original name of the book is Ten Little Indians.


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Imme van Gorp @Mai — Omg seriously?? What kind of title is that💀💀 I don’t even understand how that fits with the story at all🥴 Also, it’s been a good while since I read that book so I must have missed the racism back then or perhaps forgotten about it


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