Property talk:P1047
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identifier for the person on catholic-hierarchy.org
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1047#Single value, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1047#Type Q5, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1047#Item P21, search, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1047#Item P569, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1047#Item P19, search, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1047#Entity types
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1047#Item P106, search
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1047#Scope, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1047#Item P140, search
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Regex change
[edit]I clarified the regex. I am the creator of the website referenced in this property. Further note, in theory, the first letter of the key is the first letter of the last name. For those with no known last name the key will begin with the symbol "_".--Dcheney (talk) 22:42, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
Contraints
[edit]Good day, the "item requires statement constraint" that requires that the item has "bishop" or equivalent in position should also include subclass of Catholic bishop. See Q1691360 for example. Thank you, Amqui (talk) 13:57, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
not only male humans
[edit]With https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q50359579 Catholic Hierarchy has an entry for female humans, to. So this constraint should be removed. (Q21192877 is another example.) --Looperz (talk) 14:58, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Looperz! As long as there are only 3-4 exceptions, you can add a restriction. If there will be more (5, 6, 10, 100...), it’s worth talking about. Palotabarát (talk)
- Hello Palotabarát! With Q92880389 we have exception number 4. And now I am really looking forward to number 5 for some reasons. 😉 --Looperz (talk) 11:10, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
- Next exception: Q82307725 --Looperz (talk) 12:53, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- Next exception: Q42792208 --Looperz (talk) 22:34, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- Next exception: Q42792212 --Looperz (talk) 22:38, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- Next exception: Q123397518 --Looperz (talk) 23:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Next exception: Q124445636 --Looperz (talk) 23:18, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Next exception: Q65621775 --Looperz (talk) 23:22, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
Beeing a Bishop is not just an occupation
[edit]Beeing a Bishop is a position... You have to be nominated/selected/elected for. And afaik its was configured like this until somebody changed that in the constraints. Why ? --Looperz (talk) 11:15, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Looperz: I agree about using bishop with position held (P39); values stored in occupation (P106) should progressively be moved there. I have edited the constraint. --Epìdosis 15:51, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Epìdosis I disagree. A "position held" implies temporary, term-limited, or revocable office being held. A bishop is a bishop for eternity. "Occupation", while still inferior in terms of describing the eternal and lifelong vocation of a bishop, is more appropriate than the temporary "position held". occupation (P106) includes the labels "career, vocation, profession", and these are closer to the episcopate than would be "office held, job". Elizium23 (talk) 04:24, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- Generic values like bishop (Q29182) and Catholic bishop (Q611644) could potentially go under occupation (P106), but the values specifically referring to dioceses (e.g. bishop of Almeria (Q50364235) are surely to be values of position held (P39); classifying the generic values and the specific values under different properties could potentially cause troubles to queries, so I think that the solution of having all under P39 is probably still the best. Anyway, I think this discussion should probably happen in Wikidata talk:WikiProject Religions, in order to reach more users. --Epìdosis 08:13, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Epìdosis I disagree. A "position held" implies temporary, term-limited, or revocable office being held. A bishop is a bishop for eternity. "Occupation", while still inferior in terms of describing the eternal and lifelong vocation of a bishop, is more appropriate than the temporary "position held". occupation (P106) includes the labels "career, vocation, profession", and these are closer to the episcopate than would be "office held, job". Elizium23 (talk) 04:24, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
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