Property proposal:	Generic	Authority control	Person	Organization
	Creative work	Place	Sports	Sister projects
	Transportation	Natural science	Computing	Lexeme

Cultural heritage

See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Cultural heritage, Wikidata:WikiProject Intangible Cultural Heritage

Other related projects: Category:Cultural heritage WikiProjects

National Historical Museums of Sweden object ID

On hold

Description	authority identification for an object in the collections of the National Historical Museums of Sweden
Data type	External identifier
Allowed values	[0-9A-Z]{8}-[0-9A-Z]{4}-[0-9A-Z]{4}-[0-9A-Z]{4}-[0-9A-Z]{12}
Example 1	Streiff (Q10681657) → https://samlingar.shm.se/object/A4B754D2-5CB6-4FA1-997A-970250E32044
Example 2	Mosjömadonnan (Q10589526) → https://samlingar.shm.se/object/7C505995-EBF5-4106-BBEE-17F52BB3EA83
Example 3	Elizabeth Reliquary (Q26253636) → https://samlingar.shm.se/object/8BA2743C-5065-438B-9FAA-D854606DB716
Source	https://samlingar.shm.se
Planned use	Matching and creating items in the collection that are depicted on Wikimedia Commons
Number of IDs in source	1 300 000
Expected completeness	no label (Q21873886 (always incomplete))
Formatter URL	https://samlingar.shm.se/object/$1
See also	Nationalmuseum Sweden artwork ID (P2539)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes

Motivation

Needed to be able to matching and creating items on Wikidata that are objects in the collection of NHM and that are depicted in images on Wikimedia Commons, for example. / LinneaKarlberg (talk) 12:58, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Support Azad Karimi (talk) 13:56, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support LinneaKarlberg (talk) 13:05, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support Eva L Vedin (talk) 13:08, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support Elinor Rajka (talk) 19:13, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support Azad Karimi (talk) 13:56, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment @LinneaKarlberg:, @Eva L Vedin:, @Elinor Rajka:, @Azad Karimi: coordinating support votes with ones colleagues is not helpful, the property proposal process is in place for a reason. Abbe98 (talk) 22:34, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, we did not know. LinneaKarlberg (talk) 07:19, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Considering that National Historical Museums of Sweden ID (P9495) exists and that other properties from SHM are likely to be proposed in the future(places, events, heritage sites, ect) maybe there should only be one property? As far as I'm aware the UUIDs are unique across the various types and even if that wouldn't be the case one could include the type prefix in the id. Abbe98 (talk) 22:40, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Abbe98: Sure, that would probably work. Do you have an example of another external identifier that includes several different types so I can check how it works? Is it possible then to change the name and details of P9495? LinneaKarlberg (talk) 07:22, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Europeana entity (P7704) would be one example. I would imagine migrating/generalizing National Historical Museums of Sweden ID (P9495) by: 1. updating the formatter URL 2. adding the agent prefix to existing values 3. updating the label/description of the property Abbe98 (talk) 10:08, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Per the discussion above, I would suggest generalizing National Historical Museums of Sweden ID (P9495) rather than creating a new property for each type. I cave created a section on the discussion page. Abbe98 (talk) 10:20, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Abbe98

, It would then be necessary to differentiate "agents" from "object". How would you like to do? (incorporate it into the identifier as a general property? or use an external URL formatter?) We can also consider that each property will be dedicated to the type (less errors with dedicated constraints). It would be necessary to recontact those who have already voted, as well as the voters of the other property, to find out if your idea appeals to them, but with more information. I don't see a URL leading directly to the correct page without using the type (with only the UUID). Example: type:UUID. Cordially. —Eihel (talk) 03:47, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I would imagine we would use one of the seven possible prefixes like agent/<UUID> and object/<UUID>. We could also use a generic resolver but there isn't an official one so I think such a solution is less optimal. Abbe98 (talk) 06:48, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Abbe98: @Eihel: @LinneaKarlberg: We just had a discussion about this with the Wikidata team at the National Historical Museums of Sweden. Our conclusion is that this property should not be created, and Abbe98's solution (using prefixes) is better. This will include us (WMSE is supporting the museum in their Wikidata work) generalizing National Historical Museums of Sweden ID (P9495) and removing /person/ from the formatter URL and then adding the person prefix to all the existing uses of the property. --Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) (talk) 12:10, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) I have pinged all the people who voted on National Historical Museums of Sweden ID (P9495). I think we should leave it over the weekend at least but then if there are no one oposing this I can migrate it early next week. Abbe98 (talk) 12:32, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We at NHM are all on board with this approach instead of several Properties. LinneaKarlberg (talk) 08:09, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like an excellent idea. Many thanks Abbe98 . /André Costa (WMSE) (talk) 08:51, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks everyone, I've started re-defining National Historical Museums of Sweden ID (P9495) and will migrate the existing items using it. --Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) (talk) 12:19, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

National Archives of Sweden persistent identifier

On hold

Description	persistent identifier for objects in the National Archives of Sweden main archival database
Represents	National Archives of Sweden (Q1724971)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	archival resource (Q106815942), document (Q49848), work (Q386724)
Allowed values	Base62-encoded UUID
Example 1	No 2. Elbing. (Q111517198) → eYHMeAFOm4sNVmxKK3M5L2
Example 2	No 3. Elbing (Q111517379) → 0zDW3BS0Gw9Haap2yUVspE
Example 3	No 4. Danzigk wir es Eltere und newer werck (Q111519390) → zmQwWNi2ag9DQGJxnSVmD0
Implied notability	Wikidata property for an identifier that does not imply notability (Q62589320)
Formatter URL	https://sok.riksarkivet.se/arkiv/$1
See also	Swedish National Archive reference code (P5324)
Applicable "stated in"-value	National Archives of Sweden (Q117288060)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes

Motivation

Wikidata-objekt med denna egenskapen kan också ha Nationell Arkivdatabas Referenskod (P5324), men den persistenta identifieraren är enklare att använda för att skapa webbsides-URLer och länkad data-URIer. Nils Weinander (Riksarkivet Sverige) (talk) 13:28, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Comment Hi - could you fix your examples to look more like other property proposals (should look like: item → id) ? Also it would be useful to have formatter URL and some of the other template parameters filled out if possible. ArthurPSmith (talk) 14:21, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the feedback! This is my first property proposal so I am very unsure of how to do things. I have reformatted the examples, added URL format and a see also reference. Nils Weinander (Riksarkivet Sverige) (talk) 08:22, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Ok, looks good to me now! ArthurPSmith (talk) 15:48, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Jneubert (talk) 05:53, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment are the above examples also the canonical URIs? Considering that the RA has quite a lot of identifiers, could there be a less generic name/description? "primary database" doesn't say much to the average user. Abbe98 (talk) 21:18, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support,
Ainali Belteshassar so9q Vätte Popperipopp Tulipasylvestris Esquilo Daniel Mietchen — with focus on topics related to research (Q42240) VisbyStar Haxpett QubeCube Marcus.linneberg Vitplister Spisen Sollentuna Myohmy671 Autom S4b1nuz E.656 JoranL
Notified participants of WikiProject Sweden —MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 06:36, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It has been created as Swedish National Archive agent ID (P9713) se discussion - Salgo60 (talk) 07:43, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not the same as I understand. This proposal is for objects in archives (maybe even archives or series, though I struggle to come up with a case where they would have a wikidata item). The property you link is for an agent (Swedish: arkivbildare). Belteshassar (talk) 09:15, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Belteshassar, Nils Weinander (Riksarkivet Sverige), Abbe98: Dont we make it more complex than needed. Formatter url is the same

https://sok.riksarkivet.se/agent/$1

My suggestion change the name on Swedish National Archive agent ID (P9713) to be both... I have used (maybe wrongly) both for the "person agent" and the "archive agent"

1) List examples nota bene August Strindberg seems to have more person identifiers at the National Archive looks like something that needs to be cleaned at "the National Archive"...

Having 2 different properties is like if someone should connect with Wikidata and add new properties for every type of instance instance of (P31) Wikidata has... ?

Also Swedish National Archive reference code (P5324) is used for both persons and archives

- Salgo60 (talk) 20:35, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, I think this would be useful, perhaps also on commons. I’m not sure how many entries in NAD reference individual works, as I understand the purpose of the proposal, and to what degree those works are notable for Wikidata. Perhaps the creator of the proposal could enlighten me. Belteshassar (talk) 09:23, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- pushed the question also to github.com/Riksarkivet/dataplattform - Salgo60 (talk) 13:24, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment read the thoughts over at the National Archive - Salgo60 (talk) 03:10, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Writing as the original author of this propopsal, I would like to put this on hold for the moment. I realize that this should probably be the RDF URI rather than just the PID. I have to think this over and if I do end up with wanting the RDF URI, there are issues to clear with the format of this. - Nils Weinander (Riksarkivet Sverige) (talk) 11:26, 28 Mars 2023 (UTC)
FYI: Nils is working at the Swedish National Archives with this - Salgo60 (talk) 17:17, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like Nils left Riksarkivet and the whole thing died. I tried to ask about Riksarkivets terms but get odd answers see issue #22 - Salgo60 (talk) 10:53, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cinematography

See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Movies

Other relevant projects: Category:Movie WikiProjects

Television

See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Movies

Anime and manga

See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Anime and Manga

MyWaifuList character ID

Under discussion

Description	identifier for a character in the MyWaifuList database
Data type	External identifier
Domain	manga character (Q87576284), anime character (Q80447738)
Example 1	Asuka Langley Soryu (Q1355816) → asuka-langley-souryuu-neon-genesis-evangelion
Example 2	Rachnera Arachnera (Q59296964) → monster-musume-everyday-life-with-monster-girls
Example 3	Usagi Tsukino (Q757015) → sailor-moon
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Number of IDs in source	37359
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://mywaifulist.moe/waifu/$1

Motivation

--Trade (talk) 13:04, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Music

See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Music

Other relevant projects: Category:Music WikiProjects

MetalTabs.com musician ID

Under discussion

Description	identifier of a metal band the MetalTabs.com database
Represents	musical group (Q215380)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	MetalTabs.com (Q130332742)
Example 1	Darkthrone (Q160119)→darkthrone
Example 2	Burzum (Q193172)→burzum
Example 3	Napalm Death (Q321762)→napalm-death
Example 4	3 Inches of Blood (Q229628)→3-inches-of-blood
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Number of IDs in source	1170
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	http://metaltabs.com/$1-tabs/index.html

Motivation

--Trade (talk) 20:58, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Moebeus: --Trade (talk) 20:59, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Am I right in thinking this site was abandoned 10 years ago? Moebeus (talk) 21:15, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's an read-only archive of a database that was discontinued that long ago Trade (talk) 21:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Board game

See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Board Games

Board Game Arena ID

Under discussion

Description	identifier for a game on boardgamearena.com
Represents	Board Game Arena (Q50042959)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	social game (Q17351672)
Example 1	Wingspan (Q65784798) → wingspan
Example 2	Terra Mystica (Q17147000) → terra-mystica
Example 3	7 Wonders (Q17276) → sevenwonders
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Number of IDs in source	916
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://boardgamearena.com/gamepanel?game=$1
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Board and table games (Q9456907)

Board Game Arena numeric ID

Under discussion

Description	numeric identifier for a game on boardgamearena.com. Use as qualifier
Data type	External identifier
Example 1	Wingspan (Q65784798) → 1635
Example 2	Terra Mystica (Q17147000) → 1118
Example 3	7 Wonders (Q17276) → 1131
Formatter URL	https://boardgamearena.com/gamepanel?id=$1
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes

Motivation

Boardgamearena.com provides lots of useful information about a game, has interactive tutorials, and it often links to other databases like myludo.fr, lad.education, tesera.ru, spellenlab.be, nastol.io, jeuxstrategieter.free.fr, and ludopedia.com.br (for which I will also create property proposals). Dexxor (talk) 22:08, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Notified participants of WikiProject Board Games

Comment One could argue that the numeric ID should be the main value and the human-friendly ID should be used as qualifier. But since the numeric IDs are pretty well-hidden (you can find them by searching for <span style="display:none" id="game_id"> in the HTML source) I would speculate that the human-friendly IDs are actually more stable/permanent. Dexxor (talk) 22:08, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why not use the numeric identifier as a qualifier like we usually do? --Trade (talk) 21:12, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is the current plan. My comment above justifies why the numeric ID should be a qualifier. Dexxor (talk) 20:54, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BoardGaming.com game ID

Under discussion

Description	identifier for a game on BoardGaming.com
Represents	BoardGaming.com (Q129740046)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	social game (Q17351672)
Example 1	Wingspan (Q65784798) → wingspan
Example 2	Terra Mystica (Q17147000) → terra-mystica
Example 3	Fiasco (Q3744369) → fiasco
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	Create Mix'n'match catalog
Number of IDs in source	3644
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://boardgaming.com/games/$1
URL match pattern	`^https?://boardgaming.com/games/[^/]+/([a-z0-9₂–_-]+)`
See also	BoardGameGeek ID (P2339)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Board and table games (Q9456907)

BoardGaming.com numeric game ID

Under discussion

Description	numeric identifier for a game on BoardGaming.com. Use as qualifier
Data type	External identifier
Example 1	Wingspan (Q65784798) → 65958
Example 2	Terra Mystica (Q17147000) → 32707
Example 3	Fiasco (Q3744369) → 9387
Formatter URL	https://boardgaming.com/?p=$1
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes

Motivation

This is probably the biggest contender to BoardGameGeek. It has been around since 2010. Dexxor (talk) 11:12, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Notified participants of WikiProject Board Games

Comment The numeric ID is the Wordpress post ID obtained by searching for postid in the HTML source. I would expect that the numeric IDs become obsolete should BoardGaming.com ever switch away from Wordpress. Dexxor (talk) 11:16, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BoardGameGeek game mechanic ID

Under discussion

Description	identifier for a game mechanic on BoardGameGeek
Represents	BoardGameGeek (Q887528)
Data type	External identifier
Example 1	rock–paper–scissors (Q3939644)→2003
Example 2	area majority (Q19618360)→2080
Example 3	bidding (Q2142250)→2012
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	possibly useful as an external link on Wikipedia pages that may describe these game mechanics, as well as a way to verify the content of the Wikidata item.
Number of IDs in source	192, possibly? The browsing page for IDs has that amount: https://boardgamegeek.com/browse/boardgamemechanic
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgamemechanic/$1
See also	BoardGameGeek ID (P2339), BoardGameGeek game publisher ID (P6160), BoardGameGeek family ID (P8675), BoardGameGeek designer ID (P3505)
Applicable "stated in"-value	BoardGameGeek (Q887528)
Single-value constraint	yes

Motivation

I've seen some items that would fit this identifier recently, and I think it would make sense to have it available alongside the other BoardGameGeek IDs. Outside of Wikidata, I'm also hoping to spruce up the tabletop game space on nowiki, so it would make a nice addition, should I start writing about game mechancis on this other project where we tend to use Wikidata a bit. EdoAug (talk) 00:30, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Video game

See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Video games

Other relevant projects: Category:Video game WikiProjects

‎Kotaku game ID

Under discussion

Description	ID in the Kotaku video game database
Represents	Kotaku (Q1083295)
Data type	External identifier
Example 1	Dustborn (Q122962928)→dustborn
Example 2	Helldivers 2 (Q118645527)→helldivers-2
Example 3	Concord (Q118645627)→concord--1
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://kotaku.com/games/$1
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Video games (Q8485882)

Motivation

Discussion

applsdev Arlo Barnes BugWarp Coloradohusky CommanderKefir CptViraj Cupkake4Yoshi Cwf97 Cynde Moya Danrok Datumizer Dexxor Diggr Dispenser Dollarsign8 DoublePendulumAttractor EdoAug Edolusill Eniehack Facenapalm Floyd-out FullyAwesome Harshrathod50 Jean-Frédéric Keplersj Kirilloparma Lewis Hulbert LotsofTheories Macocobovi Macrike Master Of Ninja Matthias M. Metafire18 Nicereddy Odjob16 Oduci Poslovitch Rampagingcarrot RampantSpirit Santer Sight Contamination thgiex Tomodachi94 VGPaleontologist Wd-Ryan WikiSyn YotaMoteuchi
Notified participants of WikiProject Video games --Trade (talk) 14:56, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose It's just a different frontend for Internet Game Database game ID (P5794). If that wasn't the case, I would instantly support it. Dexxor (talk) 15:07, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support might source some fields from IGDB but is its own database. Matthias M. (talk) 17:38, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Doing some spot checks, it does look like any IGDB ID will resolve on Kotaku ; if that’s so, then this might rather be a case for third-party formatter URL (P3303). Jean-Fred (talk) 17:39, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Even if it does resolve this would still be useful as an Wikidata property to identify news website topics. Keep in mind the vast majority of IGDB ID's wont work since this is only for games Kotaku have written about Trade (talk) 06:58, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Jean-Fred. Every IGDB ID I've tried also works on Kotaku, even obscure IDs like --139909, wall$treet, and (whatever this is) as well as IDs for games released long before the inception of Kotaku. Dexxor (talk) 12:52, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GameReactor company ID

Under discussion

Description	identifier of a video game developer or publisher in the GameReactor database
Represents	Gamereactor (Q1007959)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	video game company (Q112042224)
Example 1	Square Enix (Q207784)→Square+Enix
Example 2	Spike Chunsoft (Q7577190)→Spike+Chunsoft
Example 3	Studio Wildcard (Q23309241)→Studio+Wildcard
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Number of IDs in source	Unknown
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://www.gamereactor.eu/games/?company=$1

Motivation

applsdev Arlo Barnes BugWarp Coloradohusky CommanderKefir CptViraj Cupkake4Yoshi Cwf97 Cynde Moya Danrok Datumizer Dexxor Diggr Dispenser Dollarsign8 DoublePendulumAttractor EdoAug Edolusill Eniehack Facenapalm Floyd-out FullyAwesome Harshrathod50 Jean-Frédéric Keplersj Kirilloparma Lewis Hulbert LotsofTheories Macocobovi Macrike Master Of Ninja Matthias M. Metafire18 Nicereddy Odjob16 Oduci Poslovitch Rampagingcarrot RampantSpirit Santer Sight Contamination thgiex Tomodachi94 VGPaleontologist Wd-Ryan WikiSyn YotaMoteuchi
Notified participants of WikiProject Video games --Trade (talk) 18:38, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Support Matthias M. (talk) 18:56, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Dexxor (talk) 19:26, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Seems useful. -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 02:40, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Literature

See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Books

Other relevant projects: Category:Book WikiProjects

‎FantLab artist ID

Under discussion

Description	identifier for the artist in FantLab
Represents	FantLab (Q1169438)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	artist (Q483501)
Allowed values	\d+
Example 1	Jack Gaughan (Q6112682)→345
Example 2	Ed Emshwiller (Q3047169)→6459
Example 3	Don Maitz (Q892358)→63
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://fantlab.ru/art$1
See also	FantLab author ID (P7433), FantLab translator ID (P12009)

Motivation

Same as Wikidata:Property proposal/FantLab translator ID.. FantLab is one of the most popular russian bibliography for fantasy and science fiction literature. This property should deal with fantasy/sf artists pages. Sigwald (talk) 16:24, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Support --Trade (talk) 21:11, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Scientific literature

Biblioteka Nauki IDs

Biblioteka Nauki article ID

Ready ^Create

Description	identifier for an article on bibliotekanauki.pl
Represents	Biblioteka Nauki (Q113016424)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	scholarly article (Q13442814)
Example 1	Geometrical interpretation of the sinh-Gordon equation (Q130062139) → 714437
Example 2	General principles of law and taxation (Q117536139) → 2010032
Example 3	Privacy and Transparency in the 4th Space: Implications for Conspiracy Theories (Q114023825) → 31234178
Number of IDs in source	571653
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://bibliotekanauki.pl/articles/$1
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes

Biblioteka Nauki journal ID

Ready ^Create

Description	identifier for a journal on bibliotekanauki.pl
Data type	External identifier
Domain	scientific journal (Q5633421)
Example 1	Annales Polonici Mathematici (Q9155888) → 1087
Example 2	Review of European and Comparative Law (Q96719000) → 1176
Example 3	Filozofia i Nauka (Q96701581) → 18618
Number of IDs in source	1700
Formatter URL	https://bibliotekanauki.pl/journals/$1
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes

Biblioteka Nauki book ID

Ready ^Create

Description	identifier for a book on bibliotekanauki.pl
Data type	External identifier
Domain	book (Q571)
Example 1	Aegyptus et Nubia Christiana. The Włodzimierz Godlewski jubilee volume on the occasion of his 70th birthday (Q125753655) → 1046641
Example 2	New media in the social spaces. Strategies of influence (Q130089387) → 2031079
Example 3	Otwarty dostęp (translation) (Q56242287) → 2143725
Number of IDs in source	1900
Formatter URL	https://bibliotekanauki.pl/books/$1
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes

Biblioteka Nauki publisher ID

Ready ^Create

Description	identifier for a publisher on bibliotekanauki.pl
Data type	External identifier
Domain	publishing company (Q2085381), higher education institution (Q38723)
Example 1	Jacob of Paradyż University of Applied Sciences in Gorzów Wielkopolski (Q30263914) → 370
Example 2	Centralne Laboratorium Kryminalistyczne Policji (Q30261001) → 388
Example 3	Frontiers Media (Q80796) → 1001
Number of IDs in source	1000
Formatter URL	https://bibliotekanauki.pl/publishing-companies/$1
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes

Motivation

Open-access library created in 2021 by University of Warsaw with over 571,000 articles, 1700 journals, 1900 books, and 1000 publishers. Dexxor (talk) 23:57, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Notified participants of WikiProject Open Access

Support --Trade (talk) 21:11, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Video

Image

See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Visual arts

HA! artwork ID

Under discussion

Description	alphabetical identifier for an artwork on the HA! website
Represents	HA! (Q130341592)
Data type	External identifier
Allowed values	[a-z]+(-[a-z0-9]+)*
Example 1	Madonna and Child (Q1055111) → virgen-con-el-nino-y-dos-angeles
Example 2	Soap Bubbles (Q20881587) → pompas-de-jabon
Example 3	The Sleeping Gypsy (Q1219263) → la-gitana-dormida
Source	https://historia-arte.com/obras
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	Template:Arts links (Q45312151)
Formatter URL	https://historia-arte.com/obras/$1

Motivation

This new Wikidata property to identify artworks (Q44847669) would further improve our coverage of art history (Q50637). Thierry Caro (talk) 04:31, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Notified participants of WikiProject Visual arts. Thierry Caro (talk) 04:31, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Looks useful - I like all the social media coverage per painting! Jane023 (talk) 07:01, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Podcast

See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Podcasts

Theatre

See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Performing arts, Wikidata:WikiProject Theatre

Fiction

See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Fictional universes, Wikidata:WikiProject Narration

For projects about specific universes, see: Category:Fiction WikiProjects

health/hit points

Under discussion

Description	health or armor points of this video game, board game or role-playing game character
Represents	health (Q668136)
Data type	Quantity
Example 1	Adam Warlock (Q130232493) > 250
Example 2	Infested Girl (Q130232401) > 16
Example 3	Mercy (Q28592386) > 225
Example 4	Sniper (Q128164668) > 90
Example 5	Sniper (Q128164668) > 50 (applies to part > armor (Q130232601))
Example 6	Claude Speed (Q2721597) > 10
Example 7	Claude (Q14805400) > 100
Example 8	Zoey (Q65924442) > 100
Example 9	Creeper (Q13164404) > 20 (applies to work (P10663) > Minecraft (Q49740))
Example 10	Cacodemon (Q108324133) > 400 (applies to work (P10663) > Doom (Q189784))
Wikidata project	WikiProject Video games (Q8485882)

Motivation

We have no way of modeling this so a property is needed

Discussion

Comment is this really within Wikidata:Scope? You can only look this up from the game data which makes this original research. Also how do you compare this across games? 100 hitpoints might be a lot for one game and not so much for a game where the weapons kill you at first shot. Matthias M. (talk) 21:58, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It can also be referenced from wikis about the game. Original research isn't the only option. -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 22:01, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Wd-Ryan: Are you referring to Fandom/Wikia wikis and other player-maintained wikis? These are considered unreliable (due to it being user-generated content) on many other Wikimedia projects. Is this "allowed for" on Wikidata? EdoAug (talk) 22:48, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure if it makes the statement ineligible for inclusion altogether, but most identifiers can be entered as a reference. These websites, however, do not make the subject of the item notable. Either way, it isn't accurate to say health points wouldn't be found in any other external resource. For example, this random news article I quickly found references hitpoints (Not that this specific one is applicable).

I'd also be fine with having this data in an existing property if there's a good one. -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 23:11, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If someone for whatever reason wishes to ban Fandom as a source then this is not the right place to discuss it anyways Trade (talk) 22:30, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Naturally in some games 100 hitpoints will be a lot and in others very little. This is an issue of scaling and balancing and not something that affects the truthness of the statement Trade (talk) 22:41, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This could be used on all items of Minecraft mobs. -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 22:02, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment What about using properties such as has characteristic (P1552) (or something similar) and quantity (P1114) for the plethora of (video, board, role-playing) game attributes? A similar property is personality trait of fictional character (P9652). EdoAug (talk) 22:34, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How about we just widen the scope to include board and role-playing games? Trade (talk) 22:50, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Trade: I'm referring to other types of attributes, such as strength, charisma, armour, running speed, mana, agility, dexterity, and the many other traits that characters may have in video games (but also other types of games), as well as health (and damage). Instead of creating bespoke properties for these, why not just have one for "gameplay trait of fictional character or item", or just use one of the aforementioned properties (and qualifier)? EdoAug (talk) 22:58, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mechanics such as hit points and damage are largely universal across game genres and (arguable) inherent to most of them. Being able to spend skill points across multiple attributes for your characters is not Trade (talk) 23:17, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not all usage of other attributes include spending skill points. Health and damage are not static numbers, either – many non-player characters in RPG video games have an ever-changing array of numbers, such as Jaina Proudmoore (Q819585), whose health is different in various expansions of World of Warcraft, as well as spin-off games such as Heroes of the Storm and Hearthstone, where her damage and mana (resource) is also relevant.

I am simply offering an alternative way of portraying these numbers in a way that may include a wider spectrum of similar traits. I don't really think specific properties are necessary, but I'm not too opposed to them either. I think it would be better to have a more open-ended property that would accommodate for multiple types of statistics (including health and damage... and mana, agility, running speed, level, et cetera). EdoAug (talk) 23:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree we need a property with a wider scope, there's going to be plenty of stats that only apply to items from specific games so a general purpose property in the same area as has characteristic (P1552) would likely work best. Taking Pokémon items as an example (I believe we have over 1000 of those at this point) it would be advantageous to be able to provide their base statistics: HP, Attack, Defense, Special Attack, Special Defense and Speed. Since these stats are quite relevant to gameplay it should be easy to find sources without having to resort to fan wikis. --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 02:22, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with you, Lewis. Some kind of "has statistic" property with a number data type and units for each statistic type. (health point, attack point, etc.) -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 17:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's something along the lines I meant. EdoAug (talk) 17:25, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@EdoAug, @Lewis Hulbert, @Matthias M., @Wd-Ryan, would you like to give your opinions? Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 19:21, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We need some kind of scope for that type of property to work. Otherwise it just becomes an unworkable mess Trade (talk) 14:49, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This type of data belongs in a specific fan wiki. The numbers aren't meaningful to non-players. Dexxor (talk) 00:02, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikidata is contributed by people active in different topics and have very different goals of contribution, so "not meaningful to non-players" is not a good reason against it. However we does have a Wikia equalvent of Wikidata (Wikibase Cloud), so I have no position for or against the property.--GZWDer (talk) 11:20, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The values are only comparable within other actors of the same game so a per game https://wikiba.se/ is the only option that makes sense to me. I am biased because I think this is the equivalent of en:WP:GAMECRUFT and I am not at all interested in these values as well. Matthias M. (talk) 19:28, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are plenty of property proposals that doesnt interest me. Doesnt mean that it somehow doesnt belong on Wikidata Trade (talk) 11:39, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, this whole proposal process is mostly not about validity, but if people find it interesting. You can also get rejected when nobody replies. Also note that I did not vote against your proposal even though I raised concerns. On Wikipedia this kind of content would be removed and Fandom wiki (Q106513246) took over the niche. Maybe this wants to live in a Wikidata instanced hosted by Fandom, Inc. (Q20466202) instead? I am not sure where to draw the line and if this has been discussed already. I think even video game character classes like Sniper (Q128164668) and Sniper (Q56363410) are a bit of a stretch of what I assume this website is about. Matthias M. (talk) 09:54, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Actually, this whole proposal process is mostly not about validity, but if people find it interesting." Dunno. If i were to oppose any identifiers for scholarly papers with the reasoning that the subject bored me i can imagine it would get some push back

Either way i think it would be beneficial for both of us if we had something like Wikidata:Arguments to avoid in property proposals Trade (talk) 18:20, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The thing with these numbers is that they are not comparable across game franchises. I can't imagine a situation where you would want to query for them on Wikidata instead of processing a table of health values collected by fans of the game, especially considering it's unrealistic to create items for every game entity that has health points. While there's nothing wrong with this property per se, we also need to take into account whether it's useful (external identifiers are often useful because they help with disambiguation and data reconciliation). Dexxor (talk) 21:51, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

damage

Under discussion

Description	damage value of this video game weapon, ability or character
Represents	damage (Q130232698)
Data type	Quantity
Example 1	Neon Annihilator (Q116862236) > 52
Example 2	Crowbar (Q127947788) > 18
Example 3	Baseball Bat (Q130215531) > 4
Example 4	Hammer (Q123017141) > 16 (target (P533) > front (Q32198356))
Example 5	Hammer (Q123017141) > 32 (target (P533) > back (Q32198402))
Example 7	Crowbar (Q66690853) > 180 (applies to work (P10663) > Saints Row (Q2020055))
Example 8	Crowbar (Q66690853) > 100 (applies to work (P10663) > Saints Row 2 (Q2006628))
Example 9	M1911 (Q128801867) > 60 (nature of statement (P5102) > minimum (Q10585806), applies to work (P10663) > Call of Duty 2 (Q210298), game mode (P404) > single-player video game (Q208850))
Example 10	Peacekeeper (Q130212252) > 21 (nature of statement (P5102) > minimum (Q10585806))
Example 11	Peacekeeper (Q130212252) > 70 (nature of statement (P5102) > maximum (Q10578722))
Example 12	Bee (Q114351851) > 2 (degree of difficulty (P7252) > easy (Q124400204))
Wikidata project	WikiProject Video games (Q8485882)

Motivation

We have no way of modeling this so a property is needed

Discussion

Comment Where did you source those example values from? Matthias M. (talk) 10:21, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Trade:, could you please clarify the comment? Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 19:22, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If Matthias wish to rally against the use of Fandom as a reference this is not the appropriate place to do so. --Trade (talk) 11:40, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Trade, I am sorry to say that I personally did not expect such a reply especially from you. It's simple, if you have any source then YES (with reference), else NO! Matthias M., any comment based on the response? Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 03:00, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Using Fandom article ID (P6262) would be a valid reference. Having none is unacceptable though. Matthias M. (talk) 09:42, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We already had users adressing this exact thing in the above proposal. I'll rather we just move the discussion somewhere else instead of going through it in every single proposal ad infinitum Trade (talk) 18:28, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

magazine capacity

Under discussion

Description	In (real or fictional) devices like a firearm, weapon, or engineered thing, this is the default capacity or size of a devices' magazine, clip, or other container typically used to hold ammunition, bolts, cartridges, tools, etc. which pushes those items as needed usually through a spring-based mechanism into a receiver for further use by the device
Represents	magazine (Q148958)
Data type	Quantity
Example 1	CZ 75 Automatic (Q128424715) > 16
Example 2	CZ 75 Automatic (Q128424715) > 20
Example 3	CZ 75 Automatic (Q128424715) > 26
Example 4	Desert Eagle Mark XIX (Q128788767) > 9 (ammunition (P739) > .357 Magnum (Q158754))
Example 5	Desert Eagle Mark XIX (Q128788767) > 8 (ammunition (P739) > .44 Magnum (Q94598))
Example 6	Peacekeeper (Q130212252) > 6
Example 8	Orb of Destruction (Q129916278) > 25
Example 9	CZ75-Auto (Q128424479) > 12
Example 10	Minigun (Q124444124) > 200
Example 11	Sniper Rifle (Q124444442) > 1
Wikidata project	WikiProject Video games (Q8485882)

Motivation

We have no way of modeling this so a property is needed

My knowledge of real-life firearms is limited so please bear over me if i made any mistakes.

Discussion

Don't limit usage to only weapons

Firearms are not the only engineered things in the world that use magazines (clips). We should change the description to something more like

"In (real or fictional) devices like a firearm, weapon, or engineered thing, this is the default capacity or size of a devices' magazine, clip, or other container typically used to hold ammunition, bolts, cartridges, tools, etc. which pushes those items as needed usually through a spring-based mechanism into a receiver for further use by the device".

This should allow broad usage on not only weapon (Q728), but any engineered device, machine (Q11019), tool (Q123691918), or object (Q488383) most generally. --Thadguidry (talk) 23:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Would you mind adding examples? Trade (talk) 00:51, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also fortifications. Vicarage (talk) 04:35, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please add or replace examples Trade (talk) 21:10, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thadguidry, could you please clarify comments above? Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 02:52, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1. Single and Multi-cartridge pen injectors for diabetes patients use a magazine to hold the cartridge(s).

2. Magazines used in various medical devices where clinical applications are administered to patients, such as nucleic acid delivery systems for cancer treatments.

3. Lab-on-a-chip devices use cartridges inserted into magazines for rapid diagnostic testing.

4. In metalworking, stamping presses use magazines to feed formed sheets or strips of metal into presses.

5. In construction, various tools use magazines to hold nails, screws, fasteners, etc. for quick dispensing. (Nail guns, etc.)

6. CNC Machines use "tool magazines" for holding and autoloading from, to allow continuous operation. In this context, the magazine is reused, over and over to load/unload the tool tips, adapters, etc. from. It's still a magazine and spring loaded typically, but with multiple outlets, not only a single outlet (so that multiple tools can be grabbed from at once, used, and then stored again into the "magazine").

7. Injection molding machines use magazines to automatically load plastic pellets from a larger hopper.

8. Color guns, other equipment types (NOT WEAPONS) used in games and real life - https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Color_Gun -- Thadguidry (talk) 07:17, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Vicarage (talk) 09:45, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Creative work

See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Infoboxes/works

Software products and brands, see: Wikidata:WikiProject Infoboxes/terms

Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work

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Cultural heritage

National Historical Museums of Sweden object ID

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National Archives of Sweden persistent identifier

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Cinematography

Television

Anime and manga

MyWaifuList character ID

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Music

MetalTabs.com musician ID

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Board game

Board Game Arena ID

Board Game Arena numeric ID

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BoardGaming.com game ID

BoardGaming.com numeric game ID

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BoardGameGeek game mechanic ID

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Video game

‎Kotaku game ID

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GameReactor company ID

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Literature

‎FantLab artist ID

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Scientific literature

Biblioteka Nauki IDs

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Video

Image

HA! artwork ID

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Podcast

Theatre

Fiction

health/hit points

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damage

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magazine capacity

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Don't limit usage to only weapons

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