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== Wikidata weekly summary #608 ==

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* ''' Welcome to 2023’s Final Weekly Summary! '''
A big thank you to everyone who contributed to the newsletter this year!👏🙏 As we step into 2024, we'd love to hear what changes you would like to see in the newsletter. Share your wishlist here: [[d:Wikidata_talk:Status_updates/Next#What_changes_would_you_like_to_see_in_the_newsletter_in_2024|What changes would you like to see in the newsletter in 2024?]]"

* ''' Discussions '''
** Open request for adminship: [[d:Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Administrator/EPIC|EPIC]] (RfP scheduled to end after 26 December 2023 20:34 UTC)
** New requests for permissions/Bot: [[d:Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/Balyozbot|Balyozbot]]. Tasks:
# Import sitelinks, labels, descriptions from ku wikipedia pages which use the template [[:w:ku:Template:Înterwîkî etîket û danasîn]]. (There are over 1800 articles that use this template waiting to be connected to Wikidata at the moment.)
# Add sitelinks to kuwiktionary / kuwikipedia categories / create an item for the category if necessary. I have been doing this manually for quite some time using Quickstatements but since I need to get permission for the first task, I will be handling them using a bot as well.

* ''' [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Events|Events]] '''
** Upcoming: [https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/12/11/introducing-wishathon-for-wikimedias-community-wishlist/ Introducing WMF Wishathon for Wikimedia’s Community Wishlist!] "focused on bringing together people who already contribute to technical aspects of the Wikimedia projects, who know how to find their way on the technical ecosystem, and who are able to work or collaborate on projects rather autonomously." March 15th to 17th, 2024.
** Ongoing: Weekly Lexeme Challenge #122: [https://dicare.toolforge.org/lexemes/challenge.php?id=122 Rock-forming minerals]

* ''' Press, articles, blog posts, videos '''
** Blogs
*** [https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/12/16/african-librarians-empowered-to-share-knowledge-and-enhance-information-visibility-through-aflia-wikidata-online-course/ African Librarians empowered to share knowledge and enhance information visibility through AfLIA Wikidata Online Course] --> The "Promoting Open Knowledge Practices in African Libraries through Wikidata" project, executed by AfLIA with support from the Wikimedia Foundation, trained African librarians on using Wikidata to enhance the visibility of library collections and close the knowledge and gender gap on Africa. The course was facilitated by experienced African Wikimedian editors and included diverse strategies for learner engagement and support.
** Papers: [https://arxiv.org/pdf/2311.15781.pdf Increasing Coverage and Precision of Textual Information in Multilingual Knowledge Graphs] by (Conia et al, 2023) --> This paper introduces a novel task of automatic Knowledge Graph Enhancement (KGE) to bridge the gap in the quantity and quality of textual information between English and non-English languages in Wikidata. It presents M-NTA, an unsupervised approach that combines Machine Translation, Web Search, and Large Language Models to generate high-quality textual information, and studies its impact on Entity Linking, Knowledge Graph Completion, and Question Answering tasks.
** Videos
*** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl4Fyj1AKJM Wikidata, Wikisource and Wiktionary: Wikisource for DH (WiSe 2023)] --> The lecture "Fundamentals and application-oriented methods of the Digital Humanities" by Kay-Michael Würzner is designed as a series of lectures in which teachers in the "Digital Humanities" course present their fields of work and key topics and present them for discussion.
*** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx5K_FRQ2eg Empowering Open-Source Generative AI by Integrating the Wikidata knowledge graph] --> Generative AI has changed the information ecosystem, and open-source knowledge graphs like Wikidata can become invaluable assets, propelling a myriad of applications forward. Jonathan Fraine & Lydia Pintscher present the practical integration of Wikidata's open-source, open-access knowledge graph to empower Generative AI applications. Harnessing the real-time updated, structured data encapsulated within Wikidata, they explore automated content creation, data augmentation, and semantic analysis, underpinning the generative paradigms. Through a blend of theoretical insights and real-world applications, they elucidate how to leverage Wikidata to elevate generative AI applications, breaking down existing data silos, and fostering a collaborative ecosystem within our global community of developers and contributors.
*** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i3cDbaTu7k Wiki Indaba 2023 - African content on Wikidata] --> Discussion with Alice Kibombo, Georges Fodouop and Jesse Asiedu-Akrofi, about Wikidata for African Librarians during the Wiki Indaba conference, that took place between 3-5 November 2023 in Agadir, Morocco.
*** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYFlyRGdTwU No Time to Wait - S07E10 - ACMI // Wikidata - Paul Duchesne + Simon Loffler] --> Report on recent residency program to extensively link together collection data from ACMI with Wikidata. This work has allowed the organisation to import vast quantities of data and media to enrich their own internet collection experience, as well enable writing information back to source and federating with other linked institutions.
*** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iVS7jH2kS0 Wiki(s)data #5: Wikidata Live editing] (in Italian) --> The ontology of Wikidata: how to interact with it for a better quality, by [[d:User:Epìdosis|Epìdosis]]
** Notebooks
*** [https://observablehq.com/d/1eb32f4d48923527 Map of K-Pop Idols] --> An interactive map where each red dot represents a K-pop Idol (a singer or musician in South Korean Pop music) you are able to click on.
*** [https://observablehq.com/d/9854465d757e06d2 Disney as the Mega Corporation it is Today] --> Disney has greatly evolved from the simple animation company that first debuted in 1923 with its signature Steamboat Willie animation. This analysis details some of the major acquisitions Disney has chosen to help expand its reach as a media and entertainment company.
*** [https://observablehq.com/d/19a785a23f70e0c0 The Gender-Equality Gap in STEM Awards] --> A network graph and multiple data visualizations on UCLA's alumnni awards based on gender.
*** [https://observablehq.com/d/57b012869d43405a Exploring The Belichick Coaching Tree] --> This analyses details the coaching tree of the prolific American Football coach Bill Belichick.
*** [https://observablehq.com/d/4b6319c68bd8b6f6 State of statues in the US] --> Map of how many statues there are, who is depicted in the statues, their genders, and where the statues are concentrated.
*** [https://observablehq.com/d/63061b940d31fbb3 An Analysis on Nepo Babies: Net Worths and Fame] --> This work uses Wikidata to analyze the influence and success of children of famous actors (nepo babies) in the entertainment industry, and compares the careers and net worth of these children with their parents to understand the impact of nepotism on their success.

* ''' Tool of the week '''
** [[m:Cersei|Cersei]] - is a tool designed for importing or scraping data from various third-party sources, using source-specific Python code. It can use a "headless browser" to scrape complicated websites that rely on eg JavaScript to navigate. It can therefore access data sources that can not be accessed via eg Mix'n'match. The data from sources can be updated regularly, either for everything, or just changed entries (if the source has a "recent changes" equivalent).
** [[d:Wikidata:Zotero/Cita|Wikidata:Zotero/Cita]] - is a Wikidata addon for Zotero that adds citations (i.e., what other items an item cites) metadata support to this open source reference management software, using [[d:Property:P2860|cites work (P2860)]] information available from Wikidata, and enabling users to easily contribute missing data.

* ''' Other Noteworthy Stuff =
** Job opening: [https://careers.iscb.org/jobs/view/8682 Data Scientist / Knowledge Engineer] to use Wikidata as a foundational layer for an US National Science Foundation (NSF) funded [https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2023/nsf23571/nsf23571.htm Prototype Open Knowledge Network].

* ''' Did you know? '''
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** Newest [[d:Special:ListProperties|properties]]:
*** General datatypes: none
*** External identifiers: [[:d:Property:P12225|‎WHDLoad database ID]], [[:d:Property:P12226|Shanghai Library movie ID]], [[:d:Property:P12227|‎PCSX2 Wiki ID]], [[:d:Property:P12228|KRS number]], [[:d:Property:P12229|‎Twitch numeric channel ID]], [[:d:Property:P12230|‎RPCS3 Wiki ID]], [[:d:Property:P12231|‎Black Games Archive ID]], [[:d:Property:P12232|‎Citra compatibility database ID]], [[:d:Property:P12233|‎DraCor ID]], [[:d:Property:P12234|ORBi article ID]], [[:d:Property:P12235|‎IGN wiki article ID]], [[:d:Property:P12236|‎AreWeAntiCheatYet ID]], [[:d:Property:P12237|‎RPGFan game ID]], [[:d:Property:P12238|‎Arcade Hub ID]]
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** New [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Property proposal|property proposals]] to review:
*** General datatypes:
****[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Laws of Malaysia URL|Laws of Malaysia URL]] (<nowiki>Uniform Resource Locator for laws of Malaysia</nowiki>)
****[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/production manager|production manager]] (<nowiki>manager that is responsible for the administration of a feature film or television production; oversees production plans, controls resources, initiates production, ensures ongoing operations, monitors schedules and expenditures, and creates a detailed production schedule and budget</nowiki>)
*** External identifiers: [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Schnittberichte.com ID|Schnittberichte.com ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/National Library of Malaysia OPAC ID|National Library of Malaysia OPAC ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/HistoriaGames series ID|HistoriaGames series ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Kemono Games game ID|Kemono Games game ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Internet Game Database event ID|Internet Game Database event ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/GamesMeter ID|GamesMeter ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Walk Score ID|Walk Score ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Malaysia company new number|Malaysia company new number]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Am Faclair Beag ID|Am Faclair Beag ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/xemu compatibility database ID|xemu compatibility database ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Sofascore player ID|Sofascore player ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/GameGear.jp ID|GameGear.jp ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/RPGWatch IDs|RPGWatch IDs]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Team England ID|Team England ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/TORCH taxon ID|TORCH taxon ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/ScummVM ID|ScummVM ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Abandonware France IDs|Abandonware France IDs]]
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** Query examples:
*** [https://w.wiki/8agU Distribution of the different tram gauges in Germany] ([https://twitter.com/pepicek/status/1737949826623430718 source])
*** [https://w.wiki/7Q6B Scale of stampedes reported on Wikidata] ([https://twitter.com/capucine_marin/status/1737814911550448023 source])
*** [https://query.wikidata.org/#PREFIX%20wd%3A%20%3Chttps%3A%2F%2Ffly.jiuhuashan.beauty%3A443%2Fhttp%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fentity%2F%3E%0ASELECT%20%3Ffilm%20%3FfilmLabel%20%3Fdate%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%3Ffilm%20wdt%3AP136%20wd%3AQ28026639.%0A%20%20%3Ffilm%20wdt%3AP577%20%3Fdate%20.%0A%20%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22en%22%20.%0A%20%20%20%7D%0A%7D Timeline of the Christmas movies] ([https://twitter.com/Dorialexander/status/810189413980508160 source])
*** [https://w.wiki/4bmy Christmas traditions around the world] (with pictures) ([https://twitter.com/lubianat/status/1474772209482842116 source])
** Newest [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:WikiProjects|WikiProjects]]: [[d:Wikidata:WikiProject Städel Museum Wikidata Clean-Up|WikiProject Städel Museum Wikidata Clean-Up]] - This WikiProject from the Städel Museum aims to actively participate in the Wikimedia community by maintaining and updating the quality of its data. This includes their collection of public domain art, which has been digitized and made freely available for public use. The project focuses on ensuring that the most current and high-quality data, including high-resolution images and improved metadata, are available on platforms like Wikimedia Commons and Wikidata.
** Newest [[d:Wikidata:Database reports|database reports]]: [[d:Wikidata:Database reports/children of dead mothers|children of dead mothers]] - List of mother-children pairs, where death date of parent < birth date of child
** [[d:Wikidata:Showcase items|Showcase Items]]: [[d:Q143|Esperanto (Q143)]] - international auxiliary language designed by L. L. Zamenhof
** [[d:Wikidata:Showcase lexemes|Showcase Lexemes]]: [[d:Lexeme:L1222568|L1222568 (বড়দিন)]] - Bengali noun for 'Christmas'

* ''' Development '''
** Due to the winter holidays, the development team is taking a break and no deployment is happening for Wikidata at the moment.

[[phab:maniphest/query/4RotIcw5oINo/#R|You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here]]. If you want to help, you can also have a look at [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/71/query/zfiRgTnZF7zu/?filter=zfiRgTnZF7zu&order=priority the tasks needing a volunteer].

* ''' Monthly Tasks '''
** Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
** Comment on property proposals: [[d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Overview|all open proposals]]
** Contribute to a [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Showcase items|Showcase item]].
** Help [[d:Special:LanguageStats|translate]] or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
** [[d:User:Pasleim/projectmerge|Help merge identical items]] across Wikimedia projects.
** Help [[d:Wikidata:Status updates/Next|write the next summary!]]
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Revision as of 19:50, 25 December 2023

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Lexeme

Du adderar många lexem(er). Ser du någon nytta av det? Är det någon som har glädje av det redan i dag, eller om ett år, eller när? Jag vet att detta är tänkt att användas för abstract Wikipedia, men det framstår för mig som en avlägsen utopi, och jag kan inte se när i tiden det skulle bli en nyttig verklighet.

Jag lägger också in lexem, men mest för att prova. Jag lägger till böjningsformer med text-to-lexeme, men ingen semantik. --LA2 (talk) 21:55, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@LA2: Selv om det skulle ta lang tid å kunne få det i brukbar stand for Abstract Wikipedia, så ser jeg for meg at mye av det som legges inn allerede nå kan være nyttig for Wiktionary. Det er kanskje ingen maler/moduler ennå på Wiktionary som bruker Wikidata-leksemer, men det bør egentlig være relativt trivielt å opprette en modul som henter f.eks. bøyningsformer og uttale fra Wikidata til Wiktionary. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 22:04, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ja, när det nu finns så många estniska böjningsformer här, borde de gå att presentera i sv.wiktionary. Vem kan skapa en modul för det? Jag har tagit upp frågan på wikt:sv:Wiktionary:Teknikvinden#Mall som hämtar från Wikidata. --LA2 (talk) 22:44, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Lurt! Jeg kan ikke gjøre det, i hvert fall ikke med det første. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 23:00, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Menyknapp

God kveld! Jeg har installert disse to Redigerer Wikidata:Project chat – Wikidata. Er det noen måte å få en "knapp" på venstresiden av mitt skjermbilde, slik at den blr enklere å bruke. Hendigt verktøy om man bruker det med fornuft. Pmt (talk) 19:15, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Pmt: Heiǃ Ja, det er en smal sak å legge til en knapp der. Det er imidlertid ett problem, og det er at jeg ikke kan se noen måte å «forhåndsutfylle» skjemaet med det Wikidata-elementet man allerede er på, så det vil uansett måtte bli til at man må kopiere og lime inn det. Jeg har bedt om at en slik funksjon legges til i verktøyet her. Om du vil ha ei lenke til verktøyet uansett så kan jeg godt fikse det? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 20:48, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hei! Ja gjerne en knapp. Er du btw obs på sorteringsfunksjonen for emner! Mvh Pmt (talk) 21:09, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Pmt: Nei, hva er det? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 21:11, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Denne
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Tohaomg/rearrange_values.js which I think is loadable using mw.loader.load( '//www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User:Tohaomg/rearrange values.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript' ); presumably in your common.js. --Tagishsimon (diskusjon) 08:39, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[svar][reply]
Thank you! --YukaSylvie (diskusjon) 01:02, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[svar][reply]
Please don't rearrange statements like this. There is no point (order has no meaning in wikidata) and it crowds the page history. BrokenSegue (diskusjon) 01:40, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[svar][reply]
+1. --Matěj Suchánek (diskusjon) 12:25, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Pmt (talk) 21:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Pmt: Ja, den ja. Er klar over at den finnes, men har ikke hatt noen anledning til å prøve den ut ennå. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 21:44, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request for open lock

Jon Harald Søby, can you open lock the Xigazê article for me to edit note it for Vietnamese version? Thanks!Oysterx (talk) 09:15, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New Item

Hi John Harald Søby, I created a new item Don't Live Here Anymore (2018 film) but I discovered the statements have exclamation marks. Is it an error I need to resolve? Olugold (talk) 09:38, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Olugold! I think the main reason is that the item is missing a instance of (P31) statement. I think it should just be instance of (P31)film (Q11424). (Also, the label should not have the "(2018 film)" part, that is only necessary on Wikipedia.) Jon Harald Søby (talk) 09:43, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate your swift and detailed response. I'll resolve it immediately. Thank you. Olugold (talk) 09:50, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Jon Harald Søby I have edited as you suggested and it worked, just that the screenwriter still has an exclamation mark. Thank you. Olugold (talk) 11:01, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If you click it, it should give you an idea why it appears. In this case, it is because Noni Salma (Q107453082) doesn't have a occupation (P106) statement – it should probably be occupation (P106)screenwriter (Q28389) (but quite possibly more things as well? I don't know). Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:05, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

Hi Jon Harald Søby! I created an item [1] and discovered it has been created with an alternative name [2]. I edited and have been trying to merged but an error notice keeps popping up. Can you please assist me in this regard? Thanks. Olugold (talk) 09:19, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Olugold! I merged them, and it worked without error. Did you use the merge gadget to try to merge them, or some other method? (Would be nice to figure out what the error is in case it happens again.) Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:24, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Jon Harald Søby Thank you. I used the merged gadget, I also tried using the special:merge but it didn't work. This is some part of the error message I can remember ...description does not match Language en... Olugold (talk) 12:54, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Compact View conflicts with Classification gadget

Hello there!

Following the recent discussion on project chat I've now enabled your compact view gadget which is a refreshing change. While not (perhaps yet) available via Special:Gadgets, I've been a longer time user of User:TomT0m/classification.js which is a super useful way of catching and reporting data modelling issues. Unsure if it would be on your end or @TomT0m:'s, but it would be welcome to see them play nicely together.

Many thanks --SilentSpike (talk) 00:35, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@SilentSpike: Thanks for the heads-up! I've posted a fix on MediaWiki talk:Gadget-compact items.css just now. Let me know if you see something else that doesn't look right! Jon Harald Søby (talk) 01:02, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Amazing, thank you for such a quick turnaround on that! --SilentSpike (talk) 11:16, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bot without bot flag

Hi Jon,

I see that you are running a bot, but it doesn't use the bot flag. As you stated in the request for permission that your bot is based on mine, I think the issue comes from the fact that you don't use 'bot': '1' in the request (see bot.py) (I changed that in my bot after your fork).

Cheers, Envlh (talk) 11:05, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Envlh: Thanks for the heads-up (and thanks for the bot you created too, it made things much easier for me)! I completely forgot that you need to set the bot flag explicitly, I'm used to "the old way" where bot status = automatic bot flag, so it didn't cross my mind. Fixing now. :-) Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:08, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidatas forhold til europeisk lovgivning og hensynet til enkeltpersoner

La til ektefelle på Q11980899 nylig og la merke til at det kan ha vært et ønske fra personen som går under navnet Nunne å disassosiere seg med vedkommende. Synes det er greit egentlig, men grunnen til at dette blir lagt til er at den tidligere ektemannen står oppført som hennes ektefelle. Slik jeg forstår det er ikke WMF forpliktet til å følge europeisk lovgivning på dette punktet, men "right to be forgotten" synes jeg er en grei tommelfinger-regel sålenge ikke vektige interesser taler for det motsatte.

For å forhindre at informasjonen blir lagt inn igjen vil det være nødvendig å fjerne koblingen fra ektemannen, siden dette er typisk noe som vil føre til at informasjonen vil bli lagt til igjen. Hvertfall så var dette grunnen til at infoen ble lagt til igjen. Og det vil sannsynligvis ikke være hensiktsmessig å åpne en sak på dette med begrunnelse i «Streisand-effekten» noe jeg antar vedkommende ikke ønsker. Infrastruktur (talk) 17:35, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Infrastruktur: Ja, stemmer at det var noe der. Tror det mest fornuftige er å fjerne koblinga fra mannen også – det er tross alt snakk om to (relativt) ukjente personer som begge tilfeldigvis har Wikidata-element, og verken ekteskapet eller skilsmissen er akkurat «førstesidestoff», så da syns jeg hensynet til personvern må veie tyngst. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 18:11, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Harriet as a male give name

Hello @Jon Harald Søby I noticed that you created Q30225612 "Harriet" as an instance of Q12308941 "male given name". It's also it's opposite: Q11879590, per Q5486209. I cannot find any records of male subjects with the given name Harriet. I'm well aware of course that there are names that are both male and female given names, but those are not usually two separate items. This causes me some issues with a set of queries that I'm using to "guess" the gender of the subject of an AfD on English Wikipedia. I was wondering if this is intentional, and if you can think of a way in which I can avoid having to deal with an item that is it's own opposite. Thanks, Vexations (talk) 20:17, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vexations. Looking at Special:Whatlinkshere/Q30225612, I'm fairly certain I created that item because of Harrier Heiberg Mejer (Q23905781), working my way through "nameless" Norwegians. I don't remember the exact reason, but I suspect I ended up creating a new male given name item because it felt weird marking the female Harriet as a unisex name because of a single Norwegian dude from the 1800s... Jon Harald Søby (talk) 20:34, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The things I stumble upon when I make simple, wrong, assumptions about complex problems never cease to confound me. Thanks for the clarification. I'll note that Q108897104 has two same given names, both the male and female version. [[3]] will show you. Vexations (talk) 21:53, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gamle (og lettere senile?) roboter

En rekke «roboter» laget av flere personer, inkludert Jhsbot https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q17750290&oldid=154801609 , har skapt et visst vedlikeholds-etterslep. Hvertfall så mangler over 5000 norske entiteter kategorisering uten at det dermed trengs å rettes noen pekefinger noen bestemt plass. For meg ser det ut som om botten avsluttet sitt arbeide i 2017. Jeg vil si det er bedre at det ikke opprettes Wikidata-element for en side på norsk Wikipedia, enn at det opprettes et element som ikke har kategorisering. Jeg har også mistanke om at dette er nettopp grunnen til at botten avsluttet sitt arbeide.

Hvordan er muligheten for å «pushe» den norske brukergruppen til å vedlikeholde entiteter? At de påpeker frittgående kyr (Q-er) er en ting, men egenskaper er faktisk skjelettet alt det andre bygger på.

For min egen del så har jeg hatt en svært ensidig fokus på spørringer, dermed så har jeg blitt hva de kaller en "fagidiot" expert idiot (Q1391302) og det er helt greit for min del. Infrastruktur (talk) 20:09, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tja, jeg er ikke helt sikker på om bottene har skapt et vedlikeholdsetterslep, de har vel bare flytta det ett hakk videre fra Wikipedia og hit i stedet. Men du har rett i at det ikke er den beste framgangsmåten, for det har en stor sannsynlighet for å opprette duplikater – altså at den oppretter nye elementer for artikler som egentlig burde ha vært knytta til eksisterende elementer. Så jeg har ihvertfall slutta med dette for lenge sida, og det tror jeg de fleste andre har også (men det er nok noen som driver på fortsatt).
Denne spørringa viser alle elementer som har lenke til nowiki – per nå er det rundt 1700 stk., så det er ikke ille – men om man øker «grensa» til ett utsagn har man plutselig 78 000 stk., og det er litt verre. Så ja, det er nok å henge fingra i… Jon Harald Søby (talk) 00:17, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Rettelse: Den siste spørringa tok ikke høyde for pekersider, kategorier osv., som det jo er naturlig at det ofte bare er ett utsagn på. Så her er en oppdatert spørring som luker vekk alle dem, og da er vi nede i «bare» 16 000. Ikke verst for noen minutters arbeid. 😂 Jon Harald Søby (talk) 00:30, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you're obviously smooth. <3 My hat off to you sir. Infrastruktur (talk) 20:14, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Engelke

God kveld! Kan du helpe med navnet Engelke (Q28745192) . Det er jo ført opp som mannsnavn, men er jo et kvinnenavn også. Er det nok å endre til Q3409032 eller bør det opprettes et nytt element for kvinnenavnet? Pmt (talk) 19:14, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hei Pmt! Er du sikker på at du mente Engelke (Q28745192)? Det er jo et etternavn … Jon Harald Søby (talk) 10:09, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Pmt: Jeg antar at du mente Engelke (Q30230198) (jeg burde jo ha søkt før jeg svarte …). Det er lenge siden jeg har drevet noe nevneverdig med navn, men når det gjelder slike navn har jeg pleid å sjekke om det er ulike kulturer/tradisjoner bak manns- og kvinnevarianten. Mannsnavnet Engelke har ei lenke til nedertysk Wikipedia, hvor det står at det er et mannsnavn. Jeg er usikker på i hvilken grad det «norske» kvinnenavnet Engelke er i slekt med det tyske/nedertyske, så der ville jeg ha oppretta et nytt element for kvinnenavnet for å være på den sikre sida. Det blir litt som at det finske mannsnavnet Kari er forskjellig fra det norske kvinnenavnet Kari. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 10:20, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hei, takk for svar! Skulle være Engelke (Q30230198) ja. Da oppretter jeg et nytt element. Pmt (talk) 18:06, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hei, har du anledning til å påta deg bot-jobben jeg har etterspurt på Wikidata:Bot_requests#Request_to_set_popluation_numbers_from_the_2020_US_census_to_preferred_rank? - mvh 4ing (talk) 13:27, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@4ing: Kan prøve å ta en titt på det, men tør ikke love noe. Har du noen idé om omfanget? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 13:29, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Denne koden viser maksimalt 21786 forekomster av city in the United States (Q1093829) som har har egenskapen population (P1082) (de som har oppgitt flere verdier forekommer flere ganger i resultatlista). - 4ing (talk) 14:02, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Så er det ytterligere 21123 forekomster av census-designated place in the United States (Q498162). For county of the United States (Q47168) ser det ut til at foretrukket rang er satt korrekt. - 4ing (talk) 14:22, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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